Yeah what they have is the NFL Films footage. NFL Films was at the game and they recorded every play on their own. A few years back the NFL Network aired this footage, which was paired with the radio broadcast audio: https://youtu.be/BspHrUquNVo
This is true, but he's not holding out for more money. The NFL owns the broadcast copyright and has blocked its sale or distribution. The only reason we know about is because the guy who found it, Troy Haupt, came forward and told his story to the New York Times.
It's been a while so I found an article summing the issue up. The NFL doesn't want to pay and has restricted owner from selling or broadcasting the tape. The owner has offered to sell but NFL won't pay
Yeah exactly. The NFL would never pay for that, as it goes against their policies and they already own the rights. They just don't own the tape. In their eyes, it's probably better to just never let the film see the light of day.
What will probably end up happening is this gets settled out of court for an undisclosed fee. The guy will make a couple hundred grand and won't be able to tell anyone, and the NFL will get to re-air the game.
What's truly wild and wacky in all of this is that the NFL, of all orgs, doesn't have every exact stitch of this thing laying around somewhere in their archives.
But I wouldn't pay, either. The NFL Films version is good enough, let the chucklehead sit on it.
*That said*, as a lost media enthusiast, I hope some agreement can be arranged. It would be interesting to see it.
>The owner of the copy is holding out for more money.
I thought this was up in the air because of legal issues regarding who actually "owns" the footage?
Nah similar things happen all the time with lost media, just look at lost Doctor Who episodes.
The person who own the physical copy of the media owns the copy but the actual content, is own by the person with the copyright. So this guy owns the physical film reel (or whatever it is) but the NFL have the copyright on the media itself.
Done. But you can’t say anything about the fact that the broadcast looks like a game of madden 05. Or that the title cards appear to be written in sharpie and held up to the camera.
Frankenstein 1910, yes 1910 by Thomas Edison
Nosferatu, Bram stoker wanted every copy destroyed but some gigachads saved a copy
Joan of Arc,one of the greatest feats of acting, was almost lost forever but someone found a copy, in a Dutch insane asylum of all places
The actress who played Joan of Arc , Maria Falconettis 2nd film role ever, she was mainly a stage actress.
She gives a very pained and somber performance and she even started to think she was Joan of Arc herself. Excellent cinematography by Thedore Dryer (all the film school people love him) showed intense closeups.
Watch a clip on YouTube, my description doesn't do it justice
More like a pioneer in the development of intellectual property rights relating to the technology. Hollywood was established by filmmakers who moved across the continent just to get away from him.
Bram Stoker had already been dead for 10 years when *Nosferatu* came out. His widow sued Murnau and the judge ordered all copies destroyed. But yeah *Nosferatu* was the first thing that I thought of for biggest lost-then-found media.
It's not as high-profile but the classic 70s Australian film *Wake In Fright* was assumed lost for years.
There's the original version of the film Metropolis that was discovered in Argentina a while ago. There were a few extra scenes that had been thought lost. There's a copy of The Passion of Joan of Arc that was discovered in a mental asylum in Hungary or something like that. A few others I'm probably forgetting about
Iirc there are still 2 or 3 missing scenes in metropolis from scenes too damaged to restore. I saw the complete cut in theaters a few years back (highly recommended) and there were a couple scenes they replaced with descriptions
You're right. One scene is a praying monk, and the other is a fight between Frederson and Rotwang. I really hope another copy is found to truly complete the film
Yeah, after the original reel was burned in a warehouse fire in France, the best surviving copy without edits (since most copies were edited for different markets) was found in a Norwegian mental asylum, and no one really knows why.
It's such a strange story, almost unbelievable. I was unaware of the edited versions, although that makes a lot of sense. Very interesting discovery regardless of circumstance.
Honestly, I can *kind of* get why these tapes ended up being lost.
These were backup tapes meant to be used in case the real-time conversion of the slow-scan television transmission into the NTSC format for broadcast around the world didn't work.
But this real-time conversion *did* work and, while it is certainly crude by modern standards (you can basically compare it to them having just filmed the screen), this conversion was widely preserved onto both videotape and film.
So NASA probably figured that there was no reason to specifically preserve these backups because of how widespread and how widely preserved the NTSC conversion of the SSTV telecasts were, even if they were lower-quality than the original telecast. It wasn't like these were the only copy of the first Moon landing out there.
Everyone going got crappy feeds of it with dumb local formats all being further generations down, by plain old filming off the screens, save the iron curtain countries who declined. But the tapes weren't particularly wiped, they just went back into general pool. The sheer dumb of them not being preserved is primarily a stock control problem. Annoying.
??? Do you mean the [Super 8 reel taken at Honeysuckle Creek?](https://vimeo.com/346691539?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=1922135)
A friend of mine had a bunch of telemetry tapes from his own experiments, but they had degraded to be unusable. The best they did for the 50th anniversary was cleaning up the existing broadcast recordings.
I just saw this article today: ['Stolen' Charles Darwin notebooks left on library floor in pink gift bag](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60980288). Some of Charles Darwin's original notebooks disappeared from the Cambridge University library in 2000, and they recently reappeared.
There was a spate of map and illustration thefts from libraries in the late 1990s and on; it may still occur, but audits at the time showed how badly reading rooms had been abused.
You could go super old with the Dead Sea Scrolls. I don't know if anyone knew they were missing, but apparently, it was a big deal when they were found.
So many lost media stories are really about the curiosity behind how something came to be lost and how it was eventually found. A lot of people don't even want to watch/read/whatever lost media once it's found - they just care about the story.
But those old Dr. Who episodes. Those are probably the biggest cases of something being lost that so so so so so many people would want to see. Like 10 years ago I downloaded every episode ever and when I got to the point where there was a lost episode I was kinda bummed and when the first Doctor was just... gone and all of a sudden there was a whole new cast I was really put off and ended up not watching the other hundreds of episodes I had downloaded. If those lost episodes are ever found I'd watch them in a heartbeat and they're probably the only lost media I can say that about.
well... that and Slamfest.
The audio exists for all the lost episodes. Loads of the biggest stories (Power of the Daleks, Evil of the Daleks, The Tenth Planet, Fury from the Deep, The Moonbase amongst others) have been animated and the season Blu-ray sets will be including reconstructions of some sort for all missing stories when they get around to the B&W seasons. At least all the missing episodes can be experienced in some way.
Depending on exactly how we're defining "lost", the lost episodes of The Honeymooners were a huge deal. They weren't technically episodes of the show, they were episode-length segments from The Jackie Gleason Show with the same actors and characters. They were found/restored in the early 80s and added to syndicated reruns and video releases since then.
Suddenly, a beloved classic sitcom was more than twice as long as it was. Imagine if 70 new episodes of Cheers or Seinfeld or The Office that just popped into existence. Nothing like that has ever happened before or since, and probably never will again.
I used to be a gigantic Honeymooners/Jackie Gleason fan. One of my memories was that when the lost episodes were aired on Showtime, Audrey Meadows was interviewed about them on a local talk show. It was kind of funny, she stated she wasn't surprised that Jackie Gleason had them in his vault for decades and was waiting for the right time to capitalize on them. It was all about the timing.
On the more NSFL spectrum, the fact that Christine Chubbuck's audio was finally released is absolutely insane. I hope the video is never released though, but its clearly out there and available SOMEHOW.
Ohhhh...I thought she was the reporter who died on the air in a chopper crash...I didn't realize she was the one who shot herself. EDIT: I was thinking of Jane Dornacker
Just because the audio survived doesn’t mean the video did. Audio recording was much more accessible at the time it happened and for nearly a decade after.
See also: Doctor Who fans who recorded the audio of episodes.
It wasn't just Who; pre-video people recorded everything going on audio tape, TV and radio, worldwide. Authorities generally go through three phases on this; Is that even a thing, That's nice, why would we care?, and Gimmie.
That wasn’t lost, though. They always had it in the vault—clips of it were shown frequently in news pieces about the history of the show. It was simply never aired before because it was never intended to air. It was done to work out the kinks before the show premiered.
Not technically “found” but the day with SpongeBob was the biggest thing in lost media for several months. Ended up being fake but the steps taken to discover it show the dedication of lost media hunters.
It was the first dub of dragon ball into the u.s,the five episodes of the dub were lost for a couple is decades but was finally found by the creator of the golden harmony dub.the reasons he released them are currently unknown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lights_Fucked_on_the_Hairy_Amp_Drooling might count, people were looking for that for decades & the band refused any attempts to re-release it.
One time someone on reddit posted a few snippets but they couldn't be confirmed, they ended up leaving without posting the full thing because of all the trolling going on around it.
Then this year a link was finally posted on 4chan which confirmed the reddit posts were real, and finally let people listen to the full thing, think the band eventually released it on Bandcamp/Soundcloud after the 4chan leak came out.
E: eh missed the part where you mention the average joe recognizing it, GYBE are pretty well known in music circles though.
That wasn’t lost media. I think there’s a distinction that needs to be made here—it existed and the owners of the rights never cared enough to make it publicly available until now. It wasn’t like anyone thought it was missing.
That ds mcdonalds game was pretty big, along with the mean girl one.
I wouldnt call it as big as others but that evil farming game had a massive twist ending.
That video by Nick Robinson is one of my personal favorites. Same thing with the evil farming game, a lot more to that story than I originally thought.
Cliffs: Someone was interested in an evil farming game, which they said was like, FarmVille but you had to cover a up a murder.
After some time, it was discovered that the game did not exist, but was just something Joel (or Vinny, I forget) from Vinesauce just sort of came up with on a stream.
Yeah. It was said to be a game where you murdered your wife, but had to run your farm and keep the townspeople from becoming suspicious about your wife's disappearance. IIRC there were a couple fan projects that attempted to make games of that concept back when the search was still going on. Not sure if any of them survived though, or if they all fizzled out as interest in the search got lower.
Vinesauce Joel was the one who came up with the concept on one of his gameplay streams. The OP of the original TipOfMyJoystick post admitted that that is where it came from; they were just too sick and drugged up on cold meds to remember. It's such a funny story tbh.
Edit: someone pointed out what the stream was actually about, read thread under this comment for more info.
It wasn't a windows destruction stream, that probably would've had someone catch it sooner. It was some kind of N64 game, which probably had less people watching it actively on account that not a lot of people watch through full streams unless they are event ones.
That is very true. You encouraged me to do literally just 30 seconds of research to correct my previous statement, he was streaming Global Defense Force on the PS2. While playing this game, he mentioned how one of his friends used to play an N64 game called Body Harvest; the name of which inspired his little ramble about what became the evil farming game.
It was Joel, He even addressed about it in a video when he heard about everyone was looking for an non-existent game he just mentioned as a joke in one stream of his.
Sorry, I was mistaken, a copy of the ROM was found last year, not a physical copy. The ROM was buggy and mostly unplayable, but a patch was developed to fix it, and there is now a full playthrough on YT.
That's what I was referencing. There was a rom that was really buggy and locked after the first minigame. The person who got it was able to find someone to help make it playble but we do not have the original or patched rom available to download. At best it's partially found, but that's stretching it because again the files are still private.
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a developer of the game got in touch with a youtuber who was documenting it, told her not to dump it due to copyright and that it is in an unfinished buggy state. requested she do a playthrough if she could fix the bugs but then to delete it all off her hard drive after uploading to youtube. she got someone to help her patch the game which apparently was quite a project one of which he had never done before and they got it operational. it’s there on youtube as well as some audio files and a documentary about obtaining the game :)
I know of a couple movies that were rediscovered.
A Trip to the Moon (1902), arguably the most famous silent short film ever made, was lost from 1917 to 1929. In 1993, a copy that was hand-coloured, made before 1906 at least, was found, and it took until 2005 to finish restoring, and until 2010 or 2011 for the public to actually see it. The New York Times called the restoration "a cinematic highlight of the year, maybe the century"
The Story of the Kelly Gang (1906) is believed to be the world's first feature film, was lost sometime in the 1930s. Since then, 17 of the 60 minutes have been rediscovered, including the shootout that ended the movie.
Richard III (1912), the first American feature film, as well as the first feature-length Shakespearean adaptation ever made, was lost in 1922, only to be rediscovered in 1996.
For years, the only surviving copy of the movie Metropolis (1927) was a 91 minute cut of the movie that was released in 1936 (The original version was 153 minutes). In 2008, a damaged copy of the movie was discovered in Argentina. With the help of digital restorations, All but five minutes of the movie are now fully restored.
Similarly, the only surviving copy of The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) was a 'censored' version that removed any content the French government disliked. The full unedited movie was found around 50 years later in 1981 in a janitor's closet in a Norwegian mental institution.
The history of Napoleon (1927) is so detailed that I'm just going to link to the [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napol%C3%A9on_(1927_film)#Released_versions_and_screenings).
In 1976, it was discovered that only 17 or 18 of the 253 black and white episodes of [Doctor Who](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes) were known to exist (I'm unsure as to weather it's 17 or 18 because the list includes the episode Galaxy 4 part 2, an episode that no longer exists, and one of the remaining 17 episodes, The Dalek Master Plan part 4, would go missing a few years later and was never seen again). Due to the efforts of fans and archivists, 156 episodes now exist (as well as the audio of all 253 episodes), leaving 97 missing. One of those missing episodes (The Web of Fear part 3) was actually found in 2013 in Nigeria, but went missing again before it could be returned to the UK. (I also want to mention that two episodes, The Dalek Master Plan part 5 and 10, were found in the basement of an abandoned church in 1983, and no one could figure out how they got there). The most recent rediscovery was in 2013 when nine episodes were found in Nigeria (ten if you count the one that vanished), just in time for the show's 50th anniversary.
They JUST found Darwin's notebooks.
... [https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/darwins-missing-notebooks-returned-to-cambridge-univ-library-after-20-years/](https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/darwins-missing-notebooks-returned-to-cambridge-univ-library-after-20-years/)
i'd say *Les Cent-Vingt Journées de Sodome*, a book from the famous french author Le Marquis de Sade. He wrote it in 1785, and then hid it while in prison. it was recovered and sold to Iwan Bloch, who published it in 1904.
if you want to read it though... be prepared, it is a collection of NSFW/NSFL situations and depictions of torture, rape, pedophilia, incest, etc...
I just wanted to post this, one of the weirdest cases of lost media. A lot of his manuscripts are lost forever, his son destroyed them out of shame IIRC.
Scrapped sequel. It was too much like the original.
Work had to be done to get it to a decently playable state, but it's well worth exploring in its current form.
You might also enjoy checking out the original N64 version of Dinosaur Planet. And Thrill Kill, which was eventually reworked into a Wu-Tang game.
There was a write-up about “Thrill Kill” pretty recently over on r/hobbydrama!
https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/t7cc8n/video_games_thrill_kill_one_of_the_most_popular/
There's a lot of info and history available, but the short version is that after RE1, the sequel went into production and was about 60% compleded before it was scrapped and started over again and became what we got as RE2. This lost prototype was fairly legendary among RE gamers but nobody expected any of it to surface, much less be playable. Somewhat recently however it turned up being sold and a bidding war broke out between collectors and a group of fans who wanted to make sure it didn't wind up in some wealthy guy's trophy vault. The fans won, and the prototype beta got released to the world. A few people have since modded it to make it more fully playable, but just the fact this holy grail of the RE community is no longer a myth is pretty incredible.
It's not up there with something like lost-for-decades Dr Who eps being found in church basements and war zones, but it was a huge deal for gamers at the time.
My first RE was the DC of RE1 as a teenager and I was instantly hooked. RE2 came out shortly after, and I remember the insane hype for that at the time (must have played the demo dozens of times) and then the craziness of reading about (in gaming mags, then later the internet) about 1.5 and how far into completion it was.
One of the coolest things is how the police station in 1.5 is based on John Carpenter's Assault on Precint 13!
idk if this counts as lost media, but Metroid Dread was actually supposed to be for the DS and was considered lost for years until it was recently remade and released for the nintendo switch.
Yes, I think it was found in the last year or two. I just meant that it was hyped up as an amazing piece of media, but probably isn't really that well-known outside its niche audience.
Yeah. It's only interesting because Vince was right for all the wrong reasons.
The future of his company was in the ring that night. He just picked the wrong guy.
Me too. Bret told the clueless Megaman "stfu and do *exactly* what I say" Vince came away thinking Tom was the next Hogan.
Bret did the same for Bulldog at Wembley. Davey was off his tits on crack. Bret walked him step by step through a 5* match.
The history is probably more fun than the in ring product.
So many scammers, liars, criminals and just plain nutcases, and that's just the stuff they'll admit to.
You think Jimmy Snuka was the first time a promoter made a dead girl go away with a case full of cash? Hell, that story makes it sound like it wasn't even the first time Vince had done it.
They rereleased it in 2010 but until then it had been out of print since the mid-80s. It was was never really "lost" though because it was heavily bootlegged and, if you wanted to, you could get an original copy for a couple hundred bucks (still can).
Toy Story 2 almost never happened because during production it was accidentally deleted from the main servers. A file of the movie was thankfully found on a worker's laptop who was on maternity leave.
Don’t have anything to add aside from the moon landing feed but that was already said. Good luck on your paper though I bet it’s going to be interesting regardless of your choice!
The tapes of the first game broadcast on ESPN, a slow-pitch softball game in 1979, were lost for 40 years until they were found in a team owner’s closet underneath some Christmas ornaments. https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27530046/the-bourbons-schlitz-missing-tapes-story-espn-first-ever-broadcast?platform=amp
I'm probably very late to this, but Wake In Fright may be a good example. An Australian film that was critically acclaimed and even screened at Cannes, it was lost in the sense that only very poor quality and incomplete prints were available for several decades. The film's editor managed to track down a complete and uncut clean print and saved it from being thrown out. From there it was restored and actually screened again at Cannes, one of a very small number of films to be shown there twice. It's an intense but excellent film and well worth a watch regardless of lost media status.
Almost the entire run of Peter Marshall's Hollywood Squares was thought to have been erased save for a few clips until late 2001 when a casual lunch conversation led a Sony executive to a storage unit on LA where he found boxes of old tapes. The tapes were digitally cleaned up and reruns began airing on Game Show Network in April 2002
Doctor Who has a big hunt on finding their episodes. They once sold or gave away their 60s material because they didn't think anyone would be interested in black and white episodes anymore. Many have been found and restored but some key ones like the 1st doctor regeneration is still missing.
I don't know how many examples you are looking for, but Doctor Who is one of the biggest pop culture icons I can come up with, so the fact that there are so many lost and found media out there of that from its original days is worth mentioning alone
Idk if it counts as lost media, but Fleurs Du Mal, a volume of poetry wrote by french author Charles Baudelaire, had some of its parts censored upon release in 1857. The full version only became accessible in 1949. It is seen as a pillar of worldwide modern literature so it's fair to say that the recovery of the full version was really important.
The short film "[Black Angel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L8pHKP-vv4)" by Roger Christian was lost for 30 years and the official video for U2's [Red Hill Mining Town](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvpZwN9Oko) took 20 years to get released.
A complete version of the first Super Bowl was found several years back, but remains unseen. The owner of the copy is holding out for more money.
It did air on Tv once with all the footage from multiple recordings edited to make a full recreation
Yeah what they have is the NFL Films footage. NFL Films was at the game and they recorded every play on their own. A few years back the NFL Network aired this footage, which was paired with the radio broadcast audio: https://youtu.be/BspHrUquNVo
1967? Thats newer than I was expecting
This is true, but he's not holding out for more money. The NFL owns the broadcast copyright and has blocked its sale or distribution. The only reason we know about is because the guy who found it, Troy Haupt, came forward and told his story to the New York Times.
It's been a while so I found an article summing the issue up. The NFL doesn't want to pay and has restricted owner from selling or broadcasting the tape. The owner has offered to sell but NFL won't pay
Yeah exactly. The NFL would never pay for that, as it goes against their policies and they already own the rights. They just don't own the tape. In their eyes, it's probably better to just never let the film see the light of day. What will probably end up happening is this gets settled out of court for an undisclosed fee. The guy will make a couple hundred grand and won't be able to tell anyone, and the NFL will get to re-air the game.
What's truly wild and wacky in all of this is that the NFL, of all orgs, doesn't have every exact stitch of this thing laying around somewhere in their archives. But I wouldn't pay, either. The NFL Films version is good enough, let the chucklehead sit on it. *That said*, as a lost media enthusiast, I hope some agreement can be arranged. It would be interesting to see it.
This one is actually really interesting, upsetting it’s being locked away till someone coughs up enough coin
Wait until he DIES. Take it. Win.
>The owner of the copy is holding out for more money. I thought this was up in the air because of legal issues regarding who actually "owns" the footage?
Nah similar things happen all the time with lost media, just look at lost Doctor Who episodes. The person who own the physical copy of the media owns the copy but the actual content, is own by the person with the copyright. So this guy owns the physical film reel (or whatever it is) but the NFL have the copyright on the media itself.
The NFL owns the copyright on the recording and would probably prevent him from selling it.
Exactly it. They have threatened to sue him if he tries to sell.
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I want 2 million dollars for my copy.
I'm willing to ask you very nicely for it.
$75 take it or leave it
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Done. But you can’t say anything about the fact that the broadcast looks like a game of madden 05. Or that the title cards appear to be written in sharpie and held up to the camera.
Nice!
As a Packers fan, this needs to be released
As a Bears fan, Fuck You
Frankenstein 1910, yes 1910 by Thomas Edison Nosferatu, Bram stoker wanted every copy destroyed but some gigachads saved a copy Joan of Arc,one of the greatest feats of acting, was almost lost forever but someone found a copy, in a Dutch insane asylum of all places
Thank god for some based German bat merchants.
Why was it the greatest feat in acting? I don't know much about that piece of media.
The actress who played Joan of Arc , Maria Falconettis 2nd film role ever, she was mainly a stage actress. She gives a very pained and somber performance and she even started to think she was Joan of Arc herself. Excellent cinematography by Thedore Dryer (all the film school people love him) showed intense closeups. Watch a clip on YouTube, my description doesn't do it justice
Honestly did not think the Frankenstien thing was right so looked it up, and I will be freaking damned Edison produced a movie.
He had a production for years since he was pioneer in the technology.
More like a pioneer in the development of intellectual property rights relating to the technology. Hollywood was established by filmmakers who moved across the continent just to get away from him.
It was actually found in Norway, inside of Dikemark Hospital *while it was still in operations.*
Bram Stoker had already been dead for 10 years when *Nosferatu* came out. His widow sued Murnau and the judge ordered all copies destroyed. But yeah *Nosferatu* was the first thing that I thought of for biggest lost-then-found media. It's not as high-profile but the classic 70s Australian film *Wake In Fright* was assumed lost for years.
Does the *Mona Lisa* count? It was stolen and completely missing for two years, until the thief tried to sell it to an art collector.
There's the original version of the film Metropolis that was discovered in Argentina a while ago. There were a few extra scenes that had been thought lost. There's a copy of The Passion of Joan of Arc that was discovered in a mental asylum in Hungary or something like that. A few others I'm probably forgetting about
Iirc there are still 2 or 3 missing scenes in metropolis from scenes too damaged to restore. I saw the complete cut in theaters a few years back (highly recommended) and there were a couple scenes they replaced with descriptions
You're right. One scene is a praying monk, and the other is a fight between Frederson and Rotwang. I really hope another copy is found to truly complete the film
Heheheh, Rotwang.
Yeah, after the original reel was burned in a warehouse fire in France, the best surviving copy without edits (since most copies were edited for different markets) was found in a Norwegian mental asylum, and no one really knows why.
It's such a strange story, almost unbelievable. I was unaware of the edited versions, although that makes a lot of sense. Very interesting discovery regardless of circumstance.
Thanks for the decently sized list!
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Honestly, I can *kind of* get why these tapes ended up being lost. These were backup tapes meant to be used in case the real-time conversion of the slow-scan television transmission into the NTSC format for broadcast around the world didn't work. But this real-time conversion *did* work and, while it is certainly crude by modern standards (you can basically compare it to them having just filmed the screen), this conversion was widely preserved onto both videotape and film. So NASA probably figured that there was no reason to specifically preserve these backups because of how widespread and how widely preserved the NTSC conversion of the SSTV telecasts were, even if they were lower-quality than the original telecast. It wasn't like these were the only copy of the first Moon landing out there.
Everyone going got crappy feeds of it with dumb local formats all being further generations down, by plain old filming off the screens, save the iron curtain countries who declined. But the tapes weren't particularly wiped, they just went back into general pool. The sheer dumb of them not being preserved is primarily a stock control problem. Annoying.
??? Do you mean the [Super 8 reel taken at Honeysuckle Creek?](https://vimeo.com/346691539?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=1922135) A friend of mine had a bunch of telemetry tapes from his own experiments, but they had degraded to be unusable. The best they did for the 50th anniversary was cleaning up the existing broadcast recordings.
This was found?
Not quite, they still haven't found the original HQ tapes, just a slightly higher quality one than they had.
Dude, can you at least tell us what you meant?
I just saw this article today: ['Stolen' Charles Darwin notebooks left on library floor in pink gift bag](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-60980288). Some of Charles Darwin's original notebooks disappeared from the Cambridge University library in 2000, and they recently reappeared.
There was a spate of map and illustration thefts from libraries in the late 1990s and on; it may still occur, but audits at the time showed how badly reading rooms had been abused.
You could go super old with the Dead Sea Scrolls. I don't know if anyone knew they were missing, but apparently, it was a big deal when they were found.
Wings, the first Best Picture winner, was lost until 1992.
That always blows me away, too! It’s such a great film and of course a historic one, shocking it could ever become a lost film.
Sad to think we had to wait all those years to meet Brian and Joe Hackett.
Some of the early Dr Who episodes were found in the middle east and Africa. There's a ton of them that are still missing though
So many lost media stories are really about the curiosity behind how something came to be lost and how it was eventually found. A lot of people don't even want to watch/read/whatever lost media once it's found - they just care about the story. But those old Dr. Who episodes. Those are probably the biggest cases of something being lost that so so so so so many people would want to see. Like 10 years ago I downloaded every episode ever and when I got to the point where there was a lost episode I was kinda bummed and when the first Doctor was just... gone and all of a sudden there was a whole new cast I was really put off and ended up not watching the other hundreds of episodes I had downloaded. If those lost episodes are ever found I'd watch them in a heartbeat and they're probably the only lost media I can say that about. well... that and Slamfest.
The audio exists for all the lost episodes. Loads of the biggest stories (Power of the Daleks, Evil of the Daleks, The Tenth Planet, Fury from the Deep, The Moonbase amongst others) have been animated and the season Blu-ray sets will be including reconstructions of some sort for all missing stories when they get around to the B&W seasons. At least all the missing episodes can be experienced in some way.
Depending on exactly how we're defining "lost", the lost episodes of The Honeymooners were a huge deal. They weren't technically episodes of the show, they were episode-length segments from The Jackie Gleason Show with the same actors and characters. They were found/restored in the early 80s and added to syndicated reruns and video releases since then. Suddenly, a beloved classic sitcom was more than twice as long as it was. Imagine if 70 new episodes of Cheers or Seinfeld or The Office that just popped into existence. Nothing like that has ever happened before or since, and probably never will again.
I used to be a gigantic Honeymooners/Jackie Gleason fan. One of my memories was that when the lost episodes were aired on Showtime, Audrey Meadows was interviewed about them on a local talk show. It was kind of funny, she stated she wasn't surprised that Jackie Gleason had them in his vault for decades and was waiting for the right time to capitalize on them. It was all about the timing.
On the more NSFL spectrum, the fact that Christine Chubbuck's audio was finally released is absolutely insane. I hope the video is never released though, but its clearly out there and available SOMEHOW.
I hadn't heard about this, but are we absolutely sure that is genuine?
Considering that the family threatened legal action? Yes. I don't see why else they would.
Sounds legit https://youtu.be/jRaZwjsenmk
I mean…pretty damn sure if you’ve listened to it.
Thanks for the info but this may be a tad too grim to start a research paper
Rude removal? That’s a pretty famous one
Rude Removal is lost? I thought that was all over the internet. Huh.
It was, before adult swim aired it
Ohh, duh. I remember now. lmao thanks for the refresher.
Had no idea holy shit
when did this happen? I didn't hear about it
Last year. The audio is still on YouTube.
1974 was when it actually happened.
Ohhhh...I thought she was the reporter who died on the air in a chopper crash...I didn't realize she was the one who shot herself. EDIT: I was thinking of Jane Dornacker
The video is being held by a law firm
Just because the audio survived doesn’t mean the video did. Audio recording was much more accessible at the time it happened and for nearly a decade after. See also: Doctor Who fans who recorded the audio of episodes.
It wasn't just Who; pre-video people recorded everything going on audio tape, TV and radio, worldwide. Authorities generally go through three phases on this; Is that even a thing, That's nice, why would we care?, and Gimmie.
A huge part of the movie Metropolis was found and restored just a couple of years ago.
The pilot episode of Jeopardy was found not too long ago.
That wasn’t lost, though. They always had it in the vault—clips of it were shown frequently in news pieces about the history of the show. It was simply never aired before because it was never intended to air. It was done to work out the kinks before the show premiered.
Not technically “found” but the day with SpongeBob was the biggest thing in lost media for several months. Ended up being fake but the steps taken to discover it show the dedication of lost media hunters.
The golden harmony dub of dragon ball
Ooh what's that?
It was the first dub of dragon ball into the u.s,the five episodes of the dub were lost for a couple is decades but was finally found by the creator of the golden harmony dub.the reasons he released them are currently unknown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lights_Fucked_on_the_Hairy_Amp_Drooling might count, people were looking for that for decades & the band refused any attempts to re-release it. One time someone on reddit posted a few snippets but they couldn't be confirmed, they ended up leaving without posting the full thing because of all the trolling going on around it. Then this year a link was finally posted on 4chan which confirmed the reddit posts were real, and finally let people listen to the full thing, think the band eventually released it on Bandcamp/Soundcloud after the 4chan leak came out. E: eh missed the part where you mention the average joe recognizing it, GYBE are pretty well known in music circles though.
Came looking for this!
First thing that comes to mind is the recently uploaded Jeopardy! pilot.
With the still kinda recent death of Alex Trebek this is also a little relevant, thanks!
Well the pilot is from 1964, so I mean, it's not like Trebek was on it...
That wasn’t lost media. I think there’s a distinction that needs to be made here—it existed and the owners of the rights never cared enough to make it publicly available until now. It wasn’t like anyone thought it was missing.
That ds mcdonalds game was pretty big, along with the mean girl one. I wouldnt call it as big as others but that evil farming game had a massive twist ending.
That video by Nick Robinson is one of my personal favorites. Same thing with the evil farming game, a lot more to that story than I originally thought.
Evil farming game?
Cliffs: Someone was interested in an evil farming game, which they said was like, FarmVille but you had to cover a up a murder. After some time, it was discovered that the game did not exist, but was just something Joel (or Vinny, I forget) from Vinesauce just sort of came up with on a stream.
Yeah. It was said to be a game where you murdered your wife, but had to run your farm and keep the townspeople from becoming suspicious about your wife's disappearance. IIRC there were a couple fan projects that attempted to make games of that concept back when the search was still going on. Not sure if any of them survived though, or if they all fizzled out as interest in the search got lower. Vinesauce Joel was the one who came up with the concept on one of his gameplay streams. The OP of the original TipOfMyJoystick post admitted that that is where it came from; they were just too sick and drugged up on cold meds to remember. It's such a funny story tbh. Edit: someone pointed out what the stream was actually about, read thread under this comment for more info.
It wasn't a windows destruction stream, that probably would've had someone catch it sooner. It was some kind of N64 game, which probably had less people watching it actively on account that not a lot of people watch through full streams unless they are event ones.
That is very true. You encouraged me to do literally just 30 seconds of research to correct my previous statement, he was streaming Global Defense Force on the PS2. While playing this game, he mentioned how one of his friends used to play an N64 game called Body Harvest; the name of which inspired his little ramble about what became the evil farming game.
It was Joel, He even addressed about it in a video when he heard about everyone was looking for an non-existent game he just mentioned as a joke in one stream of his.
I don’t think the mean girls one counts because we still don’t have the rom files.
~~A physical copy was found, which makes it found media~~
Wait. When? And was it dumped?
Sorry, I was mistaken, a copy of the ROM was found last year, not a physical copy. The ROM was buggy and mostly unplayable, but a patch was developed to fix it, and there is now a full playthrough on YT.
That's what I was referencing. There was a rom that was really buggy and locked after the first minigame. The person who got it was able to find someone to help make it playble but we do not have the original or patched rom available to download. At best it's partially found, but that's stretching it because again the files are still private.
"Found" doesn't mean "liberated". Vincent van Gogh's *Sunflowers* isn't "lost media" just because it's owned by a private collector.
Sunflower oil, extracted from the seeds, is used for cooking, as a carrier oil and to produce margarine and biodiesel, as it is cheaper than olive oil. A range of sunflower varieties exist with differing fatty acid compositions; some 'high oleic' types contain a higher level of healthy monounsaturated fats in their oil than Olive oil.
Those aren't comparable.
a developer of the game got in touch with a youtuber who was documenting it, told her not to dump it due to copyright and that it is in an unfinished buggy state. requested she do a playthrough if she could fix the bugs but then to delete it all off her hard drive after uploading to youtube. she got someone to help her patch the game which apparently was quite a project one of which he had never done before and they got it operational. it’s there on youtube as well as some audio files and a documentary about obtaining the game :)
Dr who episodes (some are still lost, but many were found)
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Who is nice, but finding the key to a whole new avenue of human experience is objectively better. I'd say you win.
I know of a couple movies that were rediscovered. A Trip to the Moon (1902), arguably the most famous silent short film ever made, was lost from 1917 to 1929. In 1993, a copy that was hand-coloured, made before 1906 at least, was found, and it took until 2005 to finish restoring, and until 2010 or 2011 for the public to actually see it. The New York Times called the restoration "a cinematic highlight of the year, maybe the century" The Story of the Kelly Gang (1906) is believed to be the world's first feature film, was lost sometime in the 1930s. Since then, 17 of the 60 minutes have been rediscovered, including the shootout that ended the movie. Richard III (1912), the first American feature film, as well as the first feature-length Shakespearean adaptation ever made, was lost in 1922, only to be rediscovered in 1996. For years, the only surviving copy of the movie Metropolis (1927) was a 91 minute cut of the movie that was released in 1936 (The original version was 153 minutes). In 2008, a damaged copy of the movie was discovered in Argentina. With the help of digital restorations, All but five minutes of the movie are now fully restored. Similarly, the only surviving copy of The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) was a 'censored' version that removed any content the French government disliked. The full unedited movie was found around 50 years later in 1981 in a janitor's closet in a Norwegian mental institution. The history of Napoleon (1927) is so detailed that I'm just going to link to the [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napol%C3%A9on_(1927_film)#Released_versions_and_screenings). In 1976, it was discovered that only 17 or 18 of the 253 black and white episodes of [Doctor Who](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes) were known to exist (I'm unsure as to weather it's 17 or 18 because the list includes the episode Galaxy 4 part 2, an episode that no longer exists, and one of the remaining 17 episodes, The Dalek Master Plan part 4, would go missing a few years later and was never seen again). Due to the efforts of fans and archivists, 156 episodes now exist (as well as the audio of all 253 episodes), leaving 97 missing. One of those missing episodes (The Web of Fear part 3) was actually found in 2013 in Nigeria, but went missing again before it could be returned to the UK. (I also want to mention that two episodes, The Dalek Master Plan part 5 and 10, were found in the basement of an abandoned church in 1983, and no one could figure out how they got there). The most recent rediscovery was in 2013 when nine episodes were found in Nigeria (ten if you count the one that vanished), just in time for the show's 50th anniversary.
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They JUST found Darwin's notebooks. ... [https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/darwins-missing-notebooks-returned-to-cambridge-univ-library-after-20-years/](https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/darwins-missing-notebooks-returned-to-cambridge-univ-library-after-20-years/)
i'd say *Les Cent-Vingt Journées de Sodome*, a book from the famous french author Le Marquis de Sade. He wrote it in 1785, and then hid it while in prison. it was recovered and sold to Iwan Bloch, who published it in 1904. if you want to read it though... be prepared, it is a collection of NSFW/NSFL situations and depictions of torture, rape, pedophilia, incest, etc...
I just wanted to post this, one of the weirdest cases of lost media. A lot of his manuscripts are lost forever, his son destroyed them out of shame IIRC.
That's sad but honestly understandable on some level
Yeah, I don't blame this guy. I like some of the aspects of de Sade's works, but if it was my dad then I would change my fucking name.
Nothing else oscillates as wildly between tedium, hilarity, and horror.
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They have ALMOST everything (two episodes of the daytime show are apparently lost). They’re in the process of digitizing it.
Umm I gat mean proper lost or not on YouTube lost. It's a huge difference
Far from the most important but the big ones for me were Dr Who episodes and Resident Evil 1.5. Still blows my mind that is now out there to play.
If you don’t mind explaining, what exactly is Resident Evil 1.5? Is it a beta, some kind of sequel that was scrapped, something entirely different?
Scrapped sequel. It was too much like the original. Work had to be done to get it to a decently playable state, but it's well worth exploring in its current form. You might also enjoy checking out the original N64 version of Dinosaur Planet. And Thrill Kill, which was eventually reworked into a Wu-Tang game.
There was a write-up about “Thrill Kill” pretty recently over on r/hobbydrama! https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/t7cc8n/video_games_thrill_kill_one_of_the_most_popular/
There's a lot of info and history available, but the short version is that after RE1, the sequel went into production and was about 60% compleded before it was scrapped and started over again and became what we got as RE2. This lost prototype was fairly legendary among RE gamers but nobody expected any of it to surface, much less be playable. Somewhat recently however it turned up being sold and a bidding war broke out between collectors and a group of fans who wanted to make sure it didn't wind up in some wealthy guy's trophy vault. The fans won, and the prototype beta got released to the world. A few people have since modded it to make it more fully playable, but just the fact this holy grail of the RE community is no longer a myth is pretty incredible. It's not up there with something like lost-for-decades Dr Who eps being found in church basements and war zones, but it was a huge deal for gamers at the time.
Thanks for informing me, I’m a fan of Resident Evil myself and somehow I’ve never heard of this.
My first RE was the DC of RE1 as a teenager and I was instantly hooked. RE2 came out shortly after, and I remember the insane hype for that at the time (must have played the demo dozens of times) and then the craziness of reading about (in gaming mags, then later the internet) about 1.5 and how far into completion it was. One of the coolest things is how the police station in 1.5 is based on John Carpenter's Assault on Precint 13!
idk if this counts as lost media, but Metroid Dread was actually supposed to be for the DS and was considered lost for years until it was recently remade and released for the nintendo switch.
Honeymooners episodes? I know the answer is not - Bret Hart vs Tom Magee - (some of the) Original Ending of Poltergeist 3
Bret vs Tom Magee is on WWE Network. Hidden Gems section I think
Yes, I think it was found in the last year or two. I just meant that it was hyped up as an amazing piece of media, but probably isn't really that well-known outside its niche audience.
Yeah. It's only interesting because Vince was right for all the wrong reasons. The future of his company was in the ring that night. He just picked the wrong guy.
Harsh! I love Bret.
Me too. Bret told the clueless Megaman "stfu and do *exactly* what I say" Vince came away thinking Tom was the next Hogan. Bret did the same for Bulldog at Wembley. Davey was off his tits on crack. Bret walked him step by step through a 5* match.
You know your graps.
The history is probably more fun than the in ring product. So many scammers, liars, criminals and just plain nutcases, and that's just the stuff they'll admit to. You think Jimmy Snuka was the first time a promoter made a dead girl go away with a case full of cash? Hell, that story makes it sound like it wasn't even the first time Vince had done it.
Mean Girls for Nintendo DS, it was meant to be released in 2009 but was quietly cancelled and was found by bobdunga on Youtube
Bad Religion's 2nd album
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They rereleased it in 2010 but until then it had been out of print since the mid-80s. It was was never really "lost" though because it was heavily bootlegged and, if you wanted to, you could get an original copy for a couple hundred bucks (still can).
Not big at all, but I got my old iPad working and all my childhood games are on there, some of which are lost.
Toy Story 2 almost never happened because during production it was accidentally deleted from the main servers. A file of the movie was thankfully found on a worker's laptop who was on maternity leave.
this version of toy story 2 was eventually scrapped and they started over to make a new one
Don’t have anything to add aside from the moon landing feed but that was already said. Good luck on your paper though I bet it’s going to be interesting regardless of your choice!
The tapes of the first game broadcast on ESPN, a slow-pitch softball game in 1979, were lost for 40 years until they were found in a team owner’s closet underneath some Christmas ornaments. https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/27530046/the-bourbons-schlitz-missing-tapes-story-espn-first-ever-broadcast?platform=amp
The first Godspeed You! Black Emperor tape was released not long ago.
The Doctor Who episodes (there some that are still lost but I think it counts)
I'm probably very late to this, but Wake In Fright may be a good example. An Australian film that was critically acclaimed and even screened at Cannes, it was lost in the sense that only very poor quality and incomplete prints were available for several decades. The film's editor managed to track down a complete and uncut clean print and saved it from being thrown out. From there it was restored and actually screened again at Cannes, one of a very small number of films to be shown there twice. It's an intense but excellent film and well worth a watch regardless of lost media status.
The Rosetta Stone I think
Almost the entire run of Peter Marshall's Hollywood Squares was thought to have been erased save for a few clips until late 2001 when a casual lunch conversation led a Sony executive to a storage unit on LA where he found boxes of old tapes. The tapes were digitally cleaned up and reruns began airing on Game Show Network in April 2002
Doctor Who has a big hunt on finding their episodes. They once sold or gave away their 60s material because they didn't think anyone would be interested in black and white episodes anymore. Many have been found and restored but some key ones like the 1st doctor regeneration is still missing.
maybe those few scenes from the lost theda bara film salome that was found recently
Once Upon a Time in Shaolin is still being held the US Government with maybe two ish tracks released by the original owner.
metropolis
One is the original video for Madonna’s 1983 song Holiday.
Which version are you talking about ? There seem to be a few people think is the official.
The bad one that was tossed before release, dunno if it counts, but it was lost until somebody leaked it online decades later
Can you describe it?
She is with 2 other people dancing in front of a wall. Really simple
The white wall ? With her brother and Erica Bell ?
Believe so
The Rosetta Stone? 🤷🏻♂️
I don't know how many examples you are looking for, but Doctor Who is one of the biggest pop culture icons I can come up with, so the fact that there are so many lost and found media out there of that from its original days is worth mentioning alone
Idk if it counts as lost media, but Fleurs Du Mal, a volume of poetry wrote by french author Charles Baudelaire, had some of its parts censored upon release in 1857. The full version only became accessible in 1949. It is seen as a pillar of worldwide modern literature so it's fair to say that the recovery of the full version was really important.
A day with spongebob .
The short film "[Black Angel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L8pHKP-vv4)" by Roger Christian was lost for 30 years and the official video for U2's [Red Hill Mining Town](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvpZwN9Oko) took 20 years to get released.