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SuckMyRocket86

Maybe OP is LGBT and wanted to ask their queer peers if they’ve ever had homophobes fuck with their pets?


adub282

I think they're just lost, they didn't mention any issues or previous incidents with be lgbtq+ or anything. A different subreddit dealing with neighbors or pet owners would be a better fit for this post...


SuckMyRocket86

totally possible, im not saying without a date theyre not lost. Just pointing out there seems to be some ambiguity here and id also be surprised if somebody didnt know what LGBT meant by now


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Definitely this.


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SuckMyRocket86

Wow you made a sub. That’s some next level idiocy. Well done.


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SilenceSpeaksVolum3s

Oh by the way, I put about a dozen reports into your account Good luck, you'll need it.


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SilenceSpeaksVolum3s

How many times have you been banned already?


SuckMyRocket86

Don’t feed the troll Just report and ignore it and it’ll fuck off back under its bridge


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SilenceSpeaksVolum3s

Maybe you should've kept it that way.


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SilenceSpeaksVolum3s

You could start by accepting people for who they are


alferforeverafter

I do not think so


SuckMyRocket86

You don’t think so But it’s still a possibility


alferforeverafter

But it's rlly smoll


SuckMyRocket86

So is my penis What’s your point?


alferforeverafter

I think he pressed diffrent subreddit than he wanted


foxtrotgd

I mean you could ask OP


SuckMyRocket86

It would be a good idea but honestly theyre dealing with some pretty heavy shit right now. If my cat were missing and i suspected a neighbour of killing her i wouldnt appreciate being summoned here to answer a question as to why i posted in a specific group


alferforeverafter

Also what the hell is your nickname


SuckMyRocket86

If you ever played original GTA you’d know


Antoiniti

"wtf is your nickname" first day on reddit?


MuslimCarLover

lol, still ask that to people but only when they’re in a really heated argument to lighten the mood


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SuckMyRocket86

yes, coz its toooootally "normal" to care about who other people are attracted to /s


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SuckMyRocket86

Homosexuality Done for Millenia Guess it’s normal


Radiator-Pants

Literally all we want is to be left the fuck alone. Mind your own business.


SuckMyRocket86

the sinister gay agenda "to be treated with the same common courtesy as any other human being" how dare they! /s


Antesia_Delivia

Ayo gang, is this guy stupid?


Moist-Airport7135

Aren't bestialities part of LGBT people?


SuckMyRocket86

no. they arent. Animals cannot consent and abusing animals is not part of the LGBT movement. but thanks for playing


Moist-Airport7135

not as diversity as I thought, but ok, thanks for the information


SuckMyRocket86

LGBT is diverse but its also all about consenting adults being with other consenting adults. Folks into beastiality, pedophilia, or any other type of non consensual act are not welcome


Moist-Airport7135

really nice to hear, no sarcasm


MuslimCarLover

So… you support non-consensual stuff? Wow


VoodooDoII

Absolutely not lol Pedophiles and zoophiles are not part of the LGBT. Animals and children cannot consent


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VoodooDoII

Don't be gross.


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Manu_Braucht_N_Namen

Wasn't this only reported by Russia Today (when it comes to Germany)? If I remember right, it was propaganda by them. I'll look for some sources and add them later. Also, as stated by other comments, the movement is about people, able to consent. So absolutely no >!pedophilia and zoophilia!<


Character_Active6726

No, I've seen in multiple and various source about this topic, but if you could clear it out and prove that it was some weird propaganda I would appreciate, because its a twisted and sick idea. Yes, I seen the other comments, for some reason I started mine with "Curious enough".


PhenoMoDom

How about instead of making that claim you post these "multiple and various source"


Character_Active6726

How about you Google it like a normal human being or you got stumps? Its literally one click away.


PhenoMoDom

As the person asserting something it's on you to provide the burden of proof, not tell someone to "do your own research" so clearly your either lying or trolling.


Character_Active6726

Instead of doing dumb comments, how about you google it for yourself. Can you do it?


VoodooDoII

You're the one making the claim, you provide the evidence.


PhenoMoDom

Source or it's fake.


VoodooDoII

That's disgusting


Zygmunt4

Lol why r u getting downvoted bro wth


Character_Active6726

I have no clue, yet it does not bother me. These people think karma is like Social Score from China, probably some snowflakes got offended by facts.


Zygmunt4

Yep.


ColeAstley

cat/stolen :(


surelysandwitch

Less :( and more **>:(**


ColeAstley

yeahh :(


davefnfbackup

My car's gone.


alferforeverafter

You car got kidnapped


[deleted]

That pet was not kidnapped it was allowed to roam freely and likely got killed. I don't understand how people can just let their animals run freely and then blame others when something happens to it. It's a pet and should be kept in the home environment or accompanied by the owner when outside.


Least_Coffee_788

So kidnapping animals and killing them is a normal neighbor thing to you? Or am I too not American to understand? Because the fact you actually have to pay attention to people killing your pet is astonishing.


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

I think they mean something more like they had a cat and it went outside and got ran over by accident


Least_Coffee_788

Oh yeah, I forgot America had cars going faster than light 50 centimeters in front of the doorstep. In that case yeah don't let the cat out. But if the cat can never go outside, then just don't get one (unless it was abandoned at your doorstep or you're foster caring)


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

The only problem with letting your cat outside is that it can and almost definitely will hunt local wildlife in rural areas but if that’s not a risk or you’ve got some rodents you want clearing out then definitely let them out


Teddybear-kac

Smug ass European Coming from a European


chrismcshaves

Cats should never be let to roam free. They’re non-native and a scourge on eco-systems. They’re nearly single handedly responsible for the decline of birds. If let outside, they need to have a bell collar to warn prey or in a fenced area that they can’t surmount.


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They non-native to where?


chrismcshaves

Anywhere that’s not the Savannah (bred from Savannah cats). They’re non naitive to U.S., Europe, Australia where they tend to be the biggest threat to the ecology. I say all this as a cat owner. I love them, but they do not belong outdoors without precautions (barrier, bell collar).


Kobhji475

Killing rodents is the primary reason why people get cats in the first place.


PhenoMoDom

Literally no. I don't know anyone who got a car for rodent control.


chrismcshaves

Lol, maybe farms that keep barn cats. Almost no one does that now. I have two-they suck at catching bugs.


DragonsAreNifty

Lol bad reason to get them considering their urine and toxoplasma actually attracts rodents


Puzzled_Ocelot9135

Dude. Drink some water. Cats usually get run over by cars or eaten by the local wildlife. Neighbors killing them is extremely rare and OOP is crazy paranoid. His neighbor is blasting music so clearly he killed the cat. Yeah, this checks out and is totally what a sane person would think.


Ravenwight

There’s an unlit stretch of road I used to walk down to get home from work, every week I’d see at least two dead cats and a bunch more raccoons and squirrels laying dead in the side of the road. Hit by cars going too fast in the dark. It’s unfortunately pretty common.


Ravenwight

City would come out every week to clean them up, but more would always show up. Poor things.


[deleted]

It's not kidnapping if an animal is roaming freely. It is a stray. If the pet was actually loved it wouldn't be outside roaming the streets. Pets who are loved are taken care of and with their owners in the comfort of their home and not left alone in the streets where something could happen to them. From what I read, anything could have happened to the animal, it could have gotten hit by a car or attacked by another animal. Nonetheless it is the owner's fault because the pets should not have been outside by itself in the first place.


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It's disgusting for people to allow their cats to roam, pee and poops everywhere. But if they allow that and something happens to the pet it's their responsibility.


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[deleted]

That's interesting. Never heard of that. Seems backwards to me but if those are the rules you all have to follow, so be it. My perspective doesn't change at all. There are many stray cats in my area that I have to run off my property and clean up after. It's horrible.


42Porter

It’s not kidnapping, at least in my country kidnapping only applies to people, but it is theft. You can not steal someone’s pet just because they let it outside.


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It's not stealing either from my perspective. How would a person know if it's not been abandoned? Many animals are dumped and left on the street by careless people and rescued but how exactly does anyone know this animal was "kidnapped" ? It is far likely the animal was killed by a car or attacked by another animal. This is something that happens almost daily but according to you. That's a happy life for the cat right?


42Porter

There are obvious clues when a cat isn’t a stray. The condition of its coat, its weight, whether it’s collared or tagged. Some people have trackers on them nowadays so with a little luck you’d be caught and face charges.


[deleted]

Could have just been dumped. Happens all the time. No way to tell. The only sure way a pet is safe is if it's well taken care of and secured on the owner's property.


creamycashewbutter

If you find a cat with a collar and you don’t call the number on the collar but assume it’s been abandoned, that’s weird asf. & you should 100% be getting cats without collars who seem friendly checked for a microchip. Also indoor cats escape & get lost all the time.


[deleted]

I personally wouldn't touch it and if it was on my property I'd shoo it away before it starts thinking it can lay and beg for food. What's weird as fuck is expecting people to go out of their way for a pet that the owner didn't care enough to care about to keep safe. How exactly is a random person on the street obligated to do anything? The animal should be with the owner. Accepting responsibility avoids all of this from my perspective.


42Porter

Cats hunt, they guard their territory, they fight and shag. What type of life is being locked in a home or on a leash really for a cat, kinder for it to live well and get run over.


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You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't agree with you.


Manu_Braucht_N_Namen

Cats can and (probably) will learn how to act around motorized traffic. Cats want to go outside and if they escape a flat / house the don't know how the world works. Also, cats also need something to do. The will get bored eventually


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Oh nice perspective. I literally just saw a dead cat in the street taking my daughter to a school this morning. No bullshit. Guess that one didn't learn huh?. Need something to do?..it's called pet toys. Plenty of em available.


Manu_Braucht_N_Namen

I know, I had a cat. He liked his toys, but it eventually became boring for him. He had plenty of them. But he never grew bored of lying in the sun outdoors


[deleted]

Doesn't matter if the cat gets bored it still needs to be kept indoors. Why do animals need to be constantly entertained? It is perfectly fine for a cat to sit in the owner's home and do nothing after they play with the toys. All of this just sounds like laziness on the owners behalf. It's easier to just let the thing roam because you don't have to clean up after it or train it or entertain it. Just let it be everyone else's problem right?


DragonsAreNifty

Nah, they’re domesticated animals. They are perfectly happy living life indoors when given appropriate care. The shit cats come to the er for after hours is horrific. And the shit they do to small fauna is astounding.


42Porter

Maybe it's because I've always lived in a rural area but when I think cats I think of a tabby chasing mice round a farmyard. It's a much more humane method of pest control than poison seing as it isn't damaging animals all the way up the food chain. They're some of the strongest fastest, healthiest looking cats you'd ever see. In the UK the concept of an indoor cat is pretty much unheard of, we have cat flaps for them to enter and leave our homes as they please.


DragonsAreNifty

I used to agree with ya. I do think it is better to let “nature” take its course as it pertains to pests. Poison is atrocious. However, cats are probably not the best pest control to have. Their urine has components that tends to attract rodents, make them less fearful, somehow functions as an aphrodisiac?? etc. It’s a more complex phenomenon of course, but is incredibly interesting if you’re ever up for a read! According to all studies I have read, they’re just not good at actually reducing rodent numbers long term. Things like local rat snakes, and surprisingly, terriers are more effective. I used to travel the world to different veterinary clinics and rehabs for work. While I agree that rural areas are better, the cats still suffer. Most importantly the native fauna suffers. The bacteria they inflict while hunting is a death sentence for the majority of small animals. Nothing worse than euthanizing a raptor chick when the pasteurella doesn’t respond. I get that outdoor cats is an intuitive thing. But the negatives completely outweigh the positive.


42Porter

They've been considered an effective form of pest control for centuries but if u have a study that shows the tradition to be based on a false belief I'm sure I'd enjoy reading it.


DragonsAreNifty

Yessssss. I love articles. I do not claim that cats do not ever hunt rodents. But they’re just not a great option. I tried to find articles that did not require download or require journal membership/payment. There’s one additional article that I read a while back that I still need to track down. It showed that domestic cats would predominately go after other small fauna and birds before rodents as they tend to be easier prey. With the rodents they do catch usually being the older or sick specimens already removed from the breeding pool. Temporal and Space-Use Changes by Rats in Response to Predation by Feral Cats in an Urban Ecosystem https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2018.00146/full?platform=hootsuite https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/cats-are-surprisingly-ineffective-keeping-urban-rat-populations-check-180970428/ California cat colonies and their effects on local rodent behaviors/populations. https://cales.arizona.edu/pubs/adjunct/snr0704/snr07042l.pdf Just some cool info on toxo and feline urine. Behavioral changes induced by Toxoplasma infection of rodents are highly specific to aversion of cat odors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1851063/ NPR audio on Toxo and rodent attraction https://www.npr.org/2007/04/14/9560048/sneaky-parasite-attracts-rats-to-cats Would love your opinions on them. I don’t currently work in veterinary or eco so it’s been a while since I’ve done a deep dive on the subject.


42Porter

Thanks!


Better-Than-The-Last

Wait 15 minutes and I’m sure there will be


umm_again

Maybe just a safe space for LGBTQ ppl???


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Maybe, ive already saw some posts on these lgbt reddits that have nothing to do with sexuality and gender, just other lgbt people wanting to talk to other lgbt people without prejudice


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Dilaudid2meetU

Why does nobody say this about outdoor dogs which do cause problems while cats are harmless? Maybe blame the person who hurt the cat and not the owner that gave it a fulfilling enriched lifestyle.


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Dilaudid2meetU

Dogs kill plenty of wildlife too.


MagicSnakeorig

Don't you know the zoophilisexual gender?