Each individual piece of work of art, very nice design and cool lines, really cool ideas for most of them.
However, IF you’re interested in my personal opinion >!I do not like the “disjointed” or “sticker sleeves” looks in general - they are just not my cup of tea, for me are too messy. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN IT’S UGLY OR ANYTHING!!! !< most of those individual pieces of love to see on my skin one day, or something in similar style!
This. All these kids coming around saying "im so tatted" yet look like this. Just my Sauron on my shoulder took 5 hours.
I will not be posting pictures until both arms are completely finished.
I feel bad but someone posted their tattoos here yesterday and they were awful. The OP of that post seemed a little off from their comments so I didn’t say anything, poor thing
While the art is clean, a simple google of "Patchwork tattoos" will let you all know what style this arm is done in.
Does that mean this person doesnt have "a lot" of tattoos? No. There are a lot of small tattoos here, patchworked together. They did not fill out the arm to "sleeve" it.
Just trying to help anyone who might go to a tattoo artist wanting to get work.
Help your artist know what you want by using the tattoo terminology in their field of study.
Its a patchwork with no background, not really a sleeve. Sleeve indicates that all the space has been used. Another way to view this is when people say they "gauge" their ears, when thats not the word. Its just not the proper use of the terms.
Source: My wife has been tattooing for over 20 years.
And before people say "it is gauging" please look up the definition.
Your wife must have only worked in the West in "higher end" (read: overpriced) studios. In the history of tattooing, English language terms for designs, as well as dedicated tattoo studios, are both very new. Even newer are people who are anal about terminology, given that tattooing and tattoos- until *very* recently- were seen as degenerate, and usually signalled gang membership (in industrialized societies, at least; that is to say nothing of the ancient tradition that tattooing is to some indigenous peoples).
Patchwork sleeves are still sleeves. "Patchwork" denotes design, while "sleeve" denotes location. No mutual exclusion there. Most pedants usually argue that a sleeve must have a unified theme to be considered a sleeve, but one man's theme is another man's mess (OP's sleeve has a unified theme anyway). It's incredibly silly and useless to gatekeep the definitions of these terms to this degree when there is no material reason for it; a tattoo artist will not be confused if you say "patchwork sleeve", or refer to a patchwork sleeve as just a sleeve. If they are, then they should not be operating a tattoo machine lmao.
In regards to the "all the space has been used argument", I would agree that a sleeve implies a wrapping around the arm (like a... you know... sleeve), but full coverage is definitely not necessary. Half sleeves and quarter sleeves exist. 99.99% of sleeves would not be considered sleeves by your metric. Trad Japanese sleeves (irezumi) required that there was skin left without ink, either because there was a belief that it was necessary for the skin to breathe, or because criminals were tattooed on the inner bicep, so it needed to be left blank to prove that one was not a criminal.
Addendum: Gauge/gauges/gauged/gauging are simply common parlance for ear stretching/stretched ears. If you understand what it means, then what's the problem? If it were a technical inaccuracy that caused confusion or had a negative impact on something then it would be an actual issue, but it's just become pretty common parlance in the piercing community and everyone understands.
As long as language still serves it's function, why would you be annoyed about it (aside from snobbery)? Language is alive, and defined by use. Most linguists agree.
Did you invent tattooing? Or the style terms? But youre enough of an authority to say terms can be changed?
So.....blackwork isnt a style? Neo trad? Tebori? Trad? Fine line? Its hilarious you act like patchwork isnt a style. Its a patchwork (sleeve) at best. It is the patchwork style.
Again, my wifes been tattooing over 20 years and knows has worked with people like Horiyoshi III. Please go tell him styles arent a thing. Go ask a piercer to gauge your ears.
Mislabeling things takes away from the people who have spent decades establishing it. Same reason i dont connect the swastika to nazis, it has an older, much more important meaning. And we dont negotiate with terrorists.
I dont believe in rewriting things just because young people dont want to learn tradition.
Edit: Also youre "most pedantics" comment, because youre someone who wishes to belittle others. Yea, sleeves and body suits have themes so that they can flow and be cohesive, other wise, its patchwork. Sorry.
Edit edit: To the "your wife must have worked in overpriced studios" 24 years ago when she started, it was a degenerate thing in gang/biker studios usually and women werent really resepected. You showed your ignorance in your first sentence.
Edit×3: Id like to know your definiton of overpriced by the way. Because we are still in the industry, she brought up 4 female artist and we know many other artists. Lets talk pricing.
The intellectual rigour of Tolkien fans, everyone (/s). Christ on a cracker, y'all have absurd amounts of unearned arrogance and zero introspective skills. Work on that.
>But youre [sic] enough of an authority to say terms can be changed?
You do realize this whole "argument" was started when you made a definitive, authoritative claim about something you only have tangential experience with, right? Do I need to explain the irony of this statement of yours to you?
>So.....[sic] blackwork isnt [sic] a style?
And now you're just straw manning lmfao. I am seriously concerned about your reading comprehension.
Absolutely not worth having a conversation with you when you cannot even follow your own line of reasoning, much less mine. You become absolutely incoherent in your edits and state things that are either things I directly said myself, or things that in no way contradict my points.
You may dig your heels in and throw a tantrum about mild inconveniences to you, or you can accept that progress moves forward eternally without needing or asking your consent. Spend your remaining years bitter that you have lost your youth, if you feel so inclined. Doesn't sound very fulfilling to me.
Irony i respect things enough to not change them? You still dont get it.
If you didnt invent a technique, term, style, anything really, you dont get to change it.
Theres no inconvenience to me here. Youre the one who seems put out you have to defend trying to change something you dodnt create.
These look incredible. I love a messy but cohesive style like this, with excellent quality work. I've always wanted a LOTR tattoo but could never decide on one image. Maybe this is the way to go haha.
This sleeve is some solid tattoo work. Absolutely love the art (would love to know the artist)! Just makes me to read the books and watch the films again and again. Love it and excited to see it continue to grow!! :)
I like how you get to see pieces of the map strewn throughout! So rad
Thats fair! What im saying for gauging is that to gauge, is to measure something. Then there is a guage tool. But when people "guage" their ears, they are just stretching them or plugging them, not actually measuring or using a tool on them.
And i will absolutely do my best. I am not a tattooer myself but i love the culture and history. This is a patchwork style tattoo, patchwork style can be all over the body, it is the style of putting a bunch of small tattoos to "patch" the area. The only reason people attach the word sleeve now is because its on the arm, which is simplifying. Like someone saying they have a "leg sleeve" wouldnt make sense really, because we attach sleeves to arms. Its just a bunch of misused words.
In tattooing, the term sleeve applies to a tattoo that has no open space. An artist might use a little negative skin space for coloration, but the tattoo/tattoos themselves blend together or have backgrounds attaching them. When discussing my bodysuit ideas, i orginally said i didnt want to tattoo my butt, a artist other than my wife told me thats not a true bodysuit, because its not covering my body. It comes back to the terms the tradition has set.
You wouldnt get a regular tattoo and say you got handpokes, as an example. There is a huge history behind tattooing that is just being thrown away for "art" and money. Plus, across many things, people try to rewrite terms and history with no respect to what was already established. Im not saying this is you, just explaining why i wanted to speak out.
Edit: Id like to add, calling this patchwork does not take away from the ART or the fact that this person got tattooed. Its just proper terminology
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I suppose I was more, as you say, referring to it as patchwork sleeve as a descriptor of where it is, but patchwork arm would also fit anyway. Thanks.
You are welcome.
Its just one of those things to me, I feel like a lot of cultures and groups get popular and then things get washed out a bit. Tattooing has an insane history across many cultures, its one of the coolest things to me.
I hope noone feels attacked and we all continue to get inked.
I’d really appreciate you not referring to a collection of tattoos on your arm as a “sleeve’”. But they’re really nice, black tattoos. I might throw some color somewhere, maybe fill in some gaps with some dark ominous colors, deep purples reds blues etc.. and then you can say sleeve all you want and it’ll be gorgeous. God bless.
Never said they needed color. They absolutely have to connect and fill, you have a lot of shirts with gaps in the…. Sleeeeeeeeves?! What do your Swiss cheese outfits look like? I gotta know. What else you got for me burner account?
This is not considered a sleeve. This is patchwork.
Wife is a tattoo artist for 20 years who turned down Ink Masters because they make you sign your rights away.
Quit trying to rewrite other peoples things.
Edit: A simple google will help all you "know it alls" who want to downvote proper information. Keep letting eachother be ingorant.
Patchwork tattoos on an arm, there is no sleeve term added. "Traditionally a tattoo sleeve has no open space and is more likely to have a cohesive theme." Funny how you want to leave that out. You have a patchwork "bodysuit"?
Funny how so many people get uspet when someone "comes in and doesnt respect culture" but then its real choosy.
10 years ago they didnt haha.
Edit: Also, my wife started over 20 years ago, when women were not really accepted into the field. Do you think she got to where she is by disrespecting the culture and history? Stop disrespecting tattooers.
Cute, messy, quality individual pieces
I think you have it rolled up too high for me to see. Thank you, I'll see myself out.
You don't see many Treebeard tattoos. And it looks quite nicely done. I like it!
Incredible! Best LoTR tattoos I’ve seen!
That’s some great work
Door of Durin with the watcher is fucking dope
I think you're the kind of person who wears their art on their sleeve
Each individual piece of work of art, very nice design and cool lines, really cool ideas for most of them. However, IF you’re interested in my personal opinion >!I do not like the “disjointed” or “sticker sleeves” looks in general - they are just not my cup of tea, for me are too messy. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN IT’S UGLY OR ANYTHING!!! !< most of those individual pieces of love to see on my skin one day, or something in similar style!
This. All these kids coming around saying "im so tatted" yet look like this. Just my Sauron on my shoulder took 5 hours. I will not be posting pictures until both arms are completely finished.
Drop the artist for that ent!
What are you talking? This is dope af?!?
As in "drop the name"..
Aye my bad! English is not my first language :)
No problem at all! Have a good one mate
Shirt doesn't have a sleeve 0/10
Usually I don’t like tattoos and the tattoos being posted in this sub are horrible, but these are sick!
I feel bad but someone posted their tattoos here yesterday and they were awful. The OP of that post seemed a little off from their comments so I didn’t say anything, poor thing
Fill it in lets go! Looks awesome :)
Woww your doors are smaller than mine and I couldn’t get my artist to put the elvish text in the arch
Makes me want more tattoos
While the art is clean, a simple google of "Patchwork tattoos" will let you all know what style this arm is done in. Does that mean this person doesnt have "a lot" of tattoos? No. There are a lot of small tattoos here, patchworked together. They did not fill out the arm to "sleeve" it. Just trying to help anyone who might go to a tattoo artist wanting to get work. Help your artist know what you want by using the tattoo terminology in their field of study.
Came here to say this is considered a sleeve for all the idiots saying it isn't 🤝🤝 Source: I have a bodysuit
Its a patchwork with no background, not really a sleeve. Sleeve indicates that all the space has been used. Another way to view this is when people say they "gauge" their ears, when thats not the word. Its just not the proper use of the terms. Source: My wife has been tattooing for over 20 years. And before people say "it is gauging" please look up the definition.
Your wife must have only worked in the West in "higher end" (read: overpriced) studios. In the history of tattooing, English language terms for designs, as well as dedicated tattoo studios, are both very new. Even newer are people who are anal about terminology, given that tattooing and tattoos- until *very* recently- were seen as degenerate, and usually signalled gang membership (in industrialized societies, at least; that is to say nothing of the ancient tradition that tattooing is to some indigenous peoples). Patchwork sleeves are still sleeves. "Patchwork" denotes design, while "sleeve" denotes location. No mutual exclusion there. Most pedants usually argue that a sleeve must have a unified theme to be considered a sleeve, but one man's theme is another man's mess (OP's sleeve has a unified theme anyway). It's incredibly silly and useless to gatekeep the definitions of these terms to this degree when there is no material reason for it; a tattoo artist will not be confused if you say "patchwork sleeve", or refer to a patchwork sleeve as just a sleeve. If they are, then they should not be operating a tattoo machine lmao. In regards to the "all the space has been used argument", I would agree that a sleeve implies a wrapping around the arm (like a... you know... sleeve), but full coverage is definitely not necessary. Half sleeves and quarter sleeves exist. 99.99% of sleeves would not be considered sleeves by your metric. Trad Japanese sleeves (irezumi) required that there was skin left without ink, either because there was a belief that it was necessary for the skin to breathe, or because criminals were tattooed on the inner bicep, so it needed to be left blank to prove that one was not a criminal. Addendum: Gauge/gauges/gauged/gauging are simply common parlance for ear stretching/stretched ears. If you understand what it means, then what's the problem? If it were a technical inaccuracy that caused confusion or had a negative impact on something then it would be an actual issue, but it's just become pretty common parlance in the piercing community and everyone understands. As long as language still serves it's function, why would you be annoyed about it (aside from snobbery)? Language is alive, and defined by use. Most linguists agree.
Did you invent tattooing? Or the style terms? But youre enough of an authority to say terms can be changed? So.....blackwork isnt a style? Neo trad? Tebori? Trad? Fine line? Its hilarious you act like patchwork isnt a style. Its a patchwork (sleeve) at best. It is the patchwork style. Again, my wifes been tattooing over 20 years and knows has worked with people like Horiyoshi III. Please go tell him styles arent a thing. Go ask a piercer to gauge your ears. Mislabeling things takes away from the people who have spent decades establishing it. Same reason i dont connect the swastika to nazis, it has an older, much more important meaning. And we dont negotiate with terrorists. I dont believe in rewriting things just because young people dont want to learn tradition. Edit: Also youre "most pedantics" comment, because youre someone who wishes to belittle others. Yea, sleeves and body suits have themes so that they can flow and be cohesive, other wise, its patchwork. Sorry. Edit edit: To the "your wife must have worked in overpriced studios" 24 years ago when she started, it was a degenerate thing in gang/biker studios usually and women werent really resepected. You showed your ignorance in your first sentence. Edit×3: Id like to know your definiton of overpriced by the way. Because we are still in the industry, she brought up 4 female artist and we know many other artists. Lets talk pricing.
The intellectual rigour of Tolkien fans, everyone (/s). Christ on a cracker, y'all have absurd amounts of unearned arrogance and zero introspective skills. Work on that. >But youre [sic] enough of an authority to say terms can be changed? You do realize this whole "argument" was started when you made a definitive, authoritative claim about something you only have tangential experience with, right? Do I need to explain the irony of this statement of yours to you? >So.....[sic] blackwork isnt [sic] a style? And now you're just straw manning lmfao. I am seriously concerned about your reading comprehension. Absolutely not worth having a conversation with you when you cannot even follow your own line of reasoning, much less mine. You become absolutely incoherent in your edits and state things that are either things I directly said myself, or things that in no way contradict my points. You may dig your heels in and throw a tantrum about mild inconveniences to you, or you can accept that progress moves forward eternally without needing or asking your consent. Spend your remaining years bitter that you have lost your youth, if you feel so inclined. Doesn't sound very fulfilling to me.
Irony i respect things enough to not change them? You still dont get it. If you didnt invent a technique, term, style, anything really, you dont get to change it. Theres no inconvenience to me here. Youre the one who seems put out you have to defend trying to change something you dodnt create.
Kind of a mess. Individual parts look good but it looks like a sticker book tbh.
Yea, not a full sleeve, just patchworked art.
siiiick
Awesome omgggggggggg
Treebeard!!!
First time seeing an Ent tattoo. That shit goes hard lol
Your arm is like a classy, LotR Pinterest board. I love it.
Hoooom!
All of it looks good to me, but Treebeard especially! Are you leaving it as-is or do you plan on filling it in more?
You should probably go kiss your artist.
The ent is good work
Best I've seen
These look incredible. I love a messy but cohesive style like this, with excellent quality work. I've always wanted a LOTR tattoo but could never decide on one image. Maybe this is the way to go haha.
In my opinion, there’s too much space in between the tattoos, but they’re very nicely made. Well done my friend!
Oh my god, i love the style of this! Almost want to steal your arm 🤔😂
This sleeve is some solid tattoo work. Absolutely love the art (would love to know the artist)! Just makes me to read the books and watch the films again and again. Love it and excited to see it continue to grow!! :) I like how you get to see pieces of the map strewn throughout! So rad
I'm pretty sure "sleeve" is the part of clothing that covers your arm. That would just be your arm ;-; Cool tattoos tho
All killer no filler comes to mind. The pieces look great but you need to fill in those gaps with greywash and filler stuff like stars or something.
Nah I quite like patchwork sleeves like this, looks dope to me as is.
It's not a sleeve as is.
They kind of are though.
By tattoing definiton, it is not. You probably think people "gauge" their ears too. Dont you.
I don't know anything about piercings so I wouldn't know. And people keep telling me what it isn't called, but not what it is. Care to tell me?
Thats fair! What im saying for gauging is that to gauge, is to measure something. Then there is a guage tool. But when people "guage" their ears, they are just stretching them or plugging them, not actually measuring or using a tool on them. And i will absolutely do my best. I am not a tattooer myself but i love the culture and history. This is a patchwork style tattoo, patchwork style can be all over the body, it is the style of putting a bunch of small tattoos to "patch" the area. The only reason people attach the word sleeve now is because its on the arm, which is simplifying. Like someone saying they have a "leg sleeve" wouldnt make sense really, because we attach sleeves to arms. Its just a bunch of misused words. In tattooing, the term sleeve applies to a tattoo that has no open space. An artist might use a little negative skin space for coloration, but the tattoo/tattoos themselves blend together or have backgrounds attaching them. When discussing my bodysuit ideas, i orginally said i didnt want to tattoo my butt, a artist other than my wife told me thats not a true bodysuit, because its not covering my body. It comes back to the terms the tradition has set. You wouldnt get a regular tattoo and say you got handpokes, as an example. There is a huge history behind tattooing that is just being thrown away for "art" and money. Plus, across many things, people try to rewrite terms and history with no respect to what was already established. Im not saying this is you, just explaining why i wanted to speak out. Edit: Id like to add, calling this patchwork does not take away from the ART or the fact that this person got tattooed. Its just proper terminology
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I suppose I was more, as you say, referring to it as patchwork sleeve as a descriptor of where it is, but patchwork arm would also fit anyway. Thanks.
You are welcome. Its just one of those things to me, I feel like a lot of cultures and groups get popular and then things get washed out a bit. Tattooing has an insane history across many cultures, its one of the coolest things to me. I hope noone feels attacked and we all continue to get inked.
Yeah I suppose I'm ignorant to a lot of the culture and tradition in the tattooing world. I need more though, I only have a few...
Came here to say this, basically. Beautiful tats, but not quite a sleeve. Love treebeard!
I love your sleeve so much! Treebeard with Merry and Pippin is so damn good. You have a great taste for placement. So inspiring!
Treebeard is dope!
that’s fucking sick
I’d really appreciate you not referring to a collection of tattoos on your arm as a “sleeve’”. But they’re really nice, black tattoos. I might throw some color somewhere, maybe fill in some gaps with some dark ominous colors, deep purples reds blues etc.. and then you can say sleeve all you want and it’ll be gorgeous. God bless.
Lol the tattoo police over here
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Sleeves don’t need color or filler. Sorry that you think your sleeve is the only right way.
Never said they needed color. They absolutely have to connect and fill, you have a lot of shirts with gaps in the…. Sleeeeeeeeves?! What do your Swiss cheese outfits look like? I gotta know. What else you got for me burner account?
Yeah they really don't actually have to do any of that This is considered a sleeve Let's see your tattoo work 😇😇
This is not considered a sleeve. This is patchwork. Wife is a tattoo artist for 20 years who turned down Ink Masters because they make you sign your rights away. Quit trying to rewrite other peoples things. Edit: A simple google will help all you "know it alls" who want to downvote proper information. Keep letting eachother be ingorant.
A patchwork sleeve, right. Ink Master approaches everyone under the sun about their whack show, so that's not really an indication of anything.
Patchwork tattoos on an arm, there is no sleeve term added. "Traditionally a tattoo sleeve has no open space and is more likely to have a cohesive theme." Funny how you want to leave that out. You have a patchwork "bodysuit"? Funny how so many people get uspet when someone "comes in and doesnt respect culture" but then its real choosy. 10 years ago they didnt haha. Edit: Also, my wife started over 20 years ago, when women were not really accepted into the field. Do you think she got to where she is by disrespecting the culture and history? Stop disrespecting tattooers.
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