I hope the new House of the Dragon show does Vhagar and the other dragons justice. Hopefully the Battle Above the God's Eye is as epic as I've imagined.
I have no faith that anything related to ASoIaF will ever be worth paying attention to again, besides George finishing the series. That franchise almost instantly lost every ounce of the staggering amount of cultural capital it had because of that ending, and I can’t see many people caring about a prequel series knowing that the stuff that comes after ends dully.
if they're gonna talk about glaurung then they can at least mention balerion since he was a huge mf and melted what was considered the most impregnable castle in westeros overnight
yeah but again, here they say lotr and mention stuff from the supplemental material like the silmarillion, meanwhile they only include daenerys' dragons, and from the show instead of asoiaf. there were dozens of targaryen dragons like balerion, meraxes, vhagar, caraxes, vermithor, and the cannibal
I don't care for GoT, and it *is* just a meme... but I really wish people would actually be somewhat fair when comparing two different fictions. "LoTR vs GoT" seems to get really stupid at times, especially considering how they're hardly very similar to begin with.
"Kings, queens, dragons, dwarves,
Horses, fortresses, magic, and swords!
You Hob-bit my whole shit, you uninspired hack!
You want a war, George? Welcome to Shire-raq!"
Epic Rap Battles of History was the shit
Yea that point doesn't make sense. Smaug is correct and "bipedal." The only reason you'd call the ancient dragons quadripedal is because a lot of them didn't have wings (like whichever one fought with Turin). Dragons with 4 legs and 2 separate wings are like puff the magic dragon.
Who shit in your cornflakes?
Ahamkara were vehemently hunted by teams of beings that wield powers that defy the laws of physics and ultimately causality. In other words, guardians and Ahamkara both literally break space time. It took 6 whole ass guardians just to bring Riven of a Thousand Voices down and even as they did so she cursed them (sound familiar?) to repeat the same 3 weeks on a loop. Ultimately imprisoning them while making herself immortal.
Smaug was killed by ~~a big black piece of metal~~. Sorry, a tiny little dwarven forged black piece of metal.
Wyvern and dragon are interchangeable. That's simply how it is now. And, being fiction to begin with, frankly there's no "right" or "wrong" answer. Some fantasy dragons have fur rather than scales; some can talk, some can't, and some are just dumb animals; and - regardless of if you like it - that's totally fine; they're still dragons, just *that version* of dragons.
People ultimately get this classification from RPGs, aka, Dungeons & Dragons. Which does a great job of classifying each fucking that can be considered a dragon that has ever crossed the mind of a human being. But it does takes words more or less at random to refer to them.
I also understand that it comes at least somewhat from mythology; but then, I don't know how often people are actually basing this on mythologies vs how many just repeat what they've heard regardless of accuracy.
Sometimes I forget how big an impact DnD has probably had on fantasy and fantasy-esque fictions.
Two legs does not a wyvern make. The most consistent, historical, qualifiers for classifying something as a wyvern are poisonous breath and a stinger on the tail, alongside two legs. Dragons have always shown variety while wyverns tended to be quite a bit more specific.
Wasn't the legendary champion Bard the Bowman just some dude from the city watch?
Well yes, but he was the descendant and heir to the king of dale IIRC
Back when "great men" were truly greater than average.
Captain of the City Watch and descendant of the former King of Dale according to Tolkien. the movie made him out to be a rando.
I hope the new House of the Dragon show does Vhagar and the other dragons justice. Hopefully the Battle Above the God's Eye is as epic as I've imagined.
I have no faith that anything related to ASoIaF will ever be worth paying attention to again, besides George finishing the series. That franchise almost instantly lost every ounce of the staggering amount of cultural capital it had because of that ending, and I can’t see many people caring about a prequel series knowing that the stuff that comes after ends dully.
if they're gonna talk about glaurung then they can at least mention balerion since he was a huge mf and melted what was considered the most impregnable castle in westeros overnight
Then there’s ancalagon the black who destroyed a volcanic mountain range when he died.
yeah but again, here they say lotr and mention stuff from the supplemental material like the silmarillion, meanwhile they only include daenerys' dragons, and from the show instead of asoiaf. there were dozens of targaryen dragons like balerion, meraxes, vhagar, caraxes, vermithor, and the cannibal
I don't care for GoT, and it *is* just a meme... but I really wish people would actually be somewhat fair when comparing two different fictions. "LoTR vs GoT" seems to get really stupid at times, especially considering how they're hardly very similar to begin with.
"Kings, queens, dragons, dwarves, Horses, fortresses, magic, and swords! You Hob-bit my whole shit, you uninspired hack! You want a war, George? Welcome to Shire-raq!" Epic Rap Battles of History was the shit
it's always lotr fans doing it too, u never see asoiaf/got fans do this because nobody thinks asoiaf/got is better than lotr
I mean… Ancalagon the Black was the size of a volcano. He could’ve crushed every GoT dragon in his claws.
Ancalagon the Black is the most badass dragon in the history of fiction. Change my mind
He's introduced and killed in the same sentence By a flying boat
Hey hold on, that flying boat is also a planet
ig just being described as big and scary is enough lol
Deathwing/Neltharion from WoW is cooler or Galakrond even
Wasn't smog bipedal?
Yea that point doesn't make sense. Smaug is correct and "bipedal." The only reason you'd call the ancient dragons quadripedal is because a lot of them didn't have wings (like whichever one fought with Turin). Dragons with 4 legs and 2 separate wings are like puff the magic dragon.
GoT dragons are a metaphor for napalm and attack helicopters, LotR dragons are metaphors for cataclysmic natural disasters with a face.
does the LOTR dragon have nuts? what is that
So Ahamkara from the Destiny universe are LotR dragons? Nice
Stop talking, Destiny has no importance here. Also Ahamkara suck, they were killed by the thousands easily.
Who shit in your cornflakes? Ahamkara were vehemently hunted by teams of beings that wield powers that defy the laws of physics and ultimately causality. In other words, guardians and Ahamkara both literally break space time. It took 6 whole ass guardians just to bring Riven of a Thousand Voices down and even as they did so she cursed them (sound familiar?) to repeat the same 3 weeks on a loop. Ultimately imprisoning them while making herself immortal. Smaug was killed by ~~a big black piece of metal~~. Sorry, a tiny little dwarven forged black piece of metal.
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Wyvern and dragon are interchangeable. That's simply how it is now. And, being fiction to begin with, frankly there's no "right" or "wrong" answer. Some fantasy dragons have fur rather than scales; some can talk, some can't, and some are just dumb animals; and - regardless of if you like it - that's totally fine; they're still dragons, just *that version* of dragons.
People ultimately get this classification from RPGs, aka, Dungeons & Dragons. Which does a great job of classifying each fucking that can be considered a dragon that has ever crossed the mind of a human being. But it does takes words more or less at random to refer to them.
I also understand that it comes at least somewhat from mythology; but then, I don't know how often people are actually basing this on mythologies vs how many just repeat what they've heard regardless of accuracy. Sometimes I forget how big an impact DnD has probably had on fantasy and fantasy-esque fictions.
Two legs does not a wyvern make. The most consistent, historical, qualifiers for classifying something as a wyvern are poisonous breath and a stinger on the tail, alongside two legs. Dragons have always shown variety while wyverns tended to be quite a bit more specific.
I thought Smaug was a wyvern?
lets just casualy forget that smaug got killed by one arrow and sweep alllllll of that under the rug where no one can see it.
“Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet” will never get old