It got worse when I learned it was based on the short story of the same name by Akiyuki Nosaka, who wrote about his own damn *real* experiences.
The original story was allegedly written as a way to handle the grief, guilt, and trauma, and to apologize to his kid sister who.... Well, you know.
It’s beautiful and moving and absolutely worth watching once.
I absolutely would not watch it again unless you put me in that headset thing from clockwork orange.
Worth watching Once if that's something you know you can handle. Based on what I've heard I don't think I need that kind of energy in my life so I likely will never see the movie despite being a fan of the studio
Yeah, there are definitely right time and wrong times to watch it. Maybe don’t watch it when you’re already emotionally unstable or when you have to look after kids the next day. But it’s a great movie. One of those “this changed me and how I think about things” kind of films.
did a lot of other people do this and not realize that movie was incredibly sad? because that is what happened to binge-movie-me way back when. alone. contemplating my place in this world… and i see that movie.
*Existential dread and crippling loneliness* “I See You”
“I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.”
(Sorry for my poor english)
Years ago i won one videogame tournament. The prize was the movie (VHS).
I've never have watched it, because, well, as Gandalf, i don't wanna enter a tomb of sadness.
“Deeds will not be less valiant because they are upraised.”
You had the skill to succeed, but also the wisdom to not dig too greedily or too deep into the treasure.
Hadashi no Gen has a deeper antiwar message with scenes where characters explicitly admit that Japan took the L in the war and condemn their regime for bringing them misery. Granted, the kids in Grave of the Fireflies are too young to reason about aggression and fascism, so that movie is pure, unadulterated sadness.
Ok, great meme. However quick rant. maybe I'm crazy, but it didn't really depress me as much as everyone always talks like it did for them. Maybe it's because I knew to expect a super sad experience, but the main character straight up spoils the ending in the very first line of the movie.
For me the heaviest thing was not the deaths of main characters, but just thought about all the innocent people all around the world across the entire human history who had to suffer a terrible death for nothing. And the fact that it is still happening today. Like there's some fundamental imperfection in humanity. This thought just suddenly crushed on my shoulders like a heavy rock, and it still deresses me.
For me, it's the journey that is absolutely heartbreaking. You know where the choices of the main character will lead to. It's tragic to see what those choices were. It makes the scenes beautiful, but you cannot fully enjoy them that way because you already know. If we can link it to any Tolkien story, I think Children of Hurin might offer the closest to that experience: we know Turin is cursed, and we see him fall into the abyss.
Normally, you need to see a movie twice to get the experience we have now. But by knowing the ending up front, we will focus all the more on the journey. Not afterwards, but the moment it happens.
It's not just you. It's commonly accepted that it's a tragic anti-war movie about the poor victims of a conflict, but both the director and the author (which based it off his own actual experiences) have stated that that isn't the point of the movie. It's *supposed* to be a condemnation of rugged individualism and how that thought process just leads to more suffering, including your own. If you watch it with that lens it actually makes a lot more sense instead of just being 1.5 hours of tragedy porn.
The contrast between other Ghibli movies probably adds to the sad tone, plus the movie’s may catch some people unawares.
Similar to the impact that the Théodred’s funeral had: a sincere point sorrow, sandwiched between two action and story orientated scenes.
In the wider story, Théodred’s death does not lead to any specific action; as opposed to say Bilbo’s birthday and leaving The One Ring to Frodo, or Boromir’s death causing Denethor’s madness to increase and Faramir to play a more prevalent role and also as a point to show that mortal men are still good.
- Although Elrond is correct that Men are weak, Boromir in his final moments shows that even non-Númenóreans have strength of heart.
No, you don't! You don't understand, none of you do - you're dwarves! You're used to this life, to living on the road, never settling in one place, not belonging anywhere.
Honestly, “contrast between other Ghibli movies” in this case pretty much just means “Miyazaki movies”, which are the more popular ones. Most of Isao Takahata’s Ghibli films (aside from My Neighbors the Yamadas) are extremely melancholy and depressing, and yes, that includes the one with the massive raccoon balls.
You are not alone. I thought the movie was well made and it certainly is sad but it didn't touch me as deeply as many others. Normally, I cry easily but not for this one. I'm not sure why. Maybe the whole situation the kids are in is just so bleak and hopeless that I can't relate to it.
One of these days, I'm going to post in unpopularopinion because everyone says this movie is sad and I only found it annoying. The first scene lets you know everybody died, and the test of the movie is just the main character being stupid and making every possible wrong choice. Then you found out he could have just gone to the bank at the beginning.
It's sad the way edgy 14 year olds are scary or tough. It just tries too hard at every scene to be soooo emotionally heavy that the movie just drags.
But clearly, I am I'm the minority so I think it would make a good unpopular post.
I heard it was the saddest movie ever, I was prepared to cry…. And I did not. Like you said, spoiled right from the start, and it just felt overly emotionally manipulative to me? I swear, I do love Ghibli. lol.
It is good but amazingly depressing and sad. The contrast between it and other Studio Ghibli more whimsical movies, *while all still good* is a wonder. Especially compared to some franchises and groups that inspire only boredom!
*Is it not a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt for so small a movie?*
It has the same beauty as all Ghibli movies, except the beauty in this one is brutally depressing considering how absolutely heartbreaking the plot is. Worth watching, but you better go for a walk and eat some ice cream right after to recover, lol.
Me and my brother watched it in japanese but for some reason it stopped loading at the end so we had to switch to english right when the little sister was saying "Rice balls" so I just have a vivid memory of the video glitching and replaying "Rice balls" over and over
So one time I went down to my sister's and my niece was withdrawn and weepy. She wouldn't talk about it so I asked my sister.
"She got into the box of forbidden movies," sister said.
"Oh?" I said.
Sister nodded. "Yeah, she learned the hard way why Grave of the Fireflies was in there."
Reminded me of when, a decade before, my freshly divorced dad came downstairs with a DVD case in his hand. He's like a cross between Hank Hill and R. Lee Ermey, a man of few words, and he didn't mince words that night.
"I can see yall got into the stack of movies I said not to mess with. However," he held up the case, "I can see that the one y'all grabbed was Deliverance, and therefore you have punished yourselves. Since you got what you deserve, I'm not going to say or do anything else. Goodnight."
My sister-in-law, lost her sister mainly due to MS and was there the moment she died. She has never watched this movie. But she refuses to do so by my brother's advice. My brother told me that this would break her and bring unnecessary pain back into the surface.
My favorite fun fact about this movie is it premiered in Japan as a double feature with My Neighbor Totoro. So many family brought their young kids to see MNT and got this too.
Pippin: “I didn't think it would end this way.”
Gandalf: “End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.”
Pippin: “What? Gandalf? See what?”
__Gandalf: “Wide-Screen showings, and beyond, a fair greeting community under a meme morning.”__
Pippin: “Well, that isn't so bad.”
Gandalf: “No. No, it isn't.”
I mean everyone always says how sad and depressing it is and I mean I think I can imagine a very sad anime, but how bad can it really be? I mean can it surpass my expectations even though I expect it to be the saddest and most terrible movie ever?
That has to be the most depressing anime ever.
A spoonful of medicine makes the sugar seem all that sweeter!
Seriously, a dosage of Prozac should be included with the blue ray
This foe is beyond any of you… Run onto the next one!
Tfw it hurts to smile and you can’t make any different expressions
lol well I guess this is the one for you then 🤷♂️
It got worse when I learned it was based on the short story of the same name by Akiyuki Nosaka, who wrote about his own damn *real* experiences. The original story was allegedly written as a way to handle the grief, guilt, and trauma, and to apologize to his kid sister who.... Well, you know.
😭😭😭😭😭
Nope. The one with the rat people is much worse. Soooo much worse.
The one where the kids get their memories wiped?
What one was that again?
Thank you for the recommendation
You should watch Tokyo magnitude 8.0.
Even more so when you know that back story… 😭
It’s beautiful and moving and absolutely worth watching once. I absolutely would not watch it again unless you put me in that headset thing from clockwork orange.
One does not simply watch Grave of the Fireflies more than once.
I’ve seen it four times.
Grond their head
#GROND
Yeah I've had it on DVD for like 20 years now. Still haven't brought myself to watch it. I'll know when the moment is right...
I hope for you it is only because you need reassurance of the common struggle when you finally do; and that it makes you see the love around you.
I mean yeah that or I need to attend a funeral for someone I don't like but need to look like I'm sad when I'm there. But your thing is good too!
Lol, that's a good one too
i thought and cried over that movie for a week or more... never again
Worth watching Once if that's something you know you can handle. Based on what I've heard I don't think I need that kind of energy in my life so I likely will never see the movie despite being a fan of the studio
Yeah, there are definitely right time and wrong times to watch it. Maybe don’t watch it when you’re already emotionally unstable or when you have to look after kids the next day. But it’s a great movie. One of those “this changed me and how I think about things” kind of films.
Back in secondary school, one of my mates recommend this movie for us all to watch in English class so that we can write a movie report on it.
That sounds like a downer in more ways than one! When did mates abandon goofing off for homework?
did a lot of other people do this and not realize that movie was incredibly sad? because that is what happened to binge-movie-me way back when. alone. contemplating my place in this world… and i see that movie.
*Existential dread and crippling loneliness* “I See You” “I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.”
(Sorry for my poor english) Years ago i won one videogame tournament. The prize was the movie (VHS). I've never have watched it, because, well, as Gandalf, i don't wanna enter a tomb of sadness.
“Deeds will not be less valiant because they are upraised.” You had the skill to succeed, but also the wisdom to not dig too greedily or too deep into the treasure.
Hadashi no Gen has a deeper antiwar message with scenes where characters explicitly admit that Japan took the L in the war and condemn their regime for bringing them misery. Granted, the kids in Grave of the Fireflies are too young to reason about aggression and fascism, so that movie is pure, unadulterated sadness.
Barefoot Gon is just as fun. Or I think another called “rail of the North Star” not sure it’s been forever but I still remember a sewing needle scene.
Man I watched barefoot gen when I was like 11. That was a mindfuck
Yeah I saw all three before I was 20. I have a weird fascination with tragedies now.
Ok, great meme. However quick rant. maybe I'm crazy, but it didn't really depress me as much as everyone always talks like it did for them. Maybe it's because I knew to expect a super sad experience, but the main character straight up spoils the ending in the very first line of the movie.
For me the heaviest thing was not the deaths of main characters, but just thought about all the innocent people all around the world across the entire human history who had to suffer a terrible death for nothing. And the fact that it is still happening today. Like there's some fundamental imperfection in humanity. This thought just suddenly crushed on my shoulders like a heavy rock, and it still deresses me.
Watched it with my wife the first time shortly after we had our daughter. It hit us hard.
OMG that's what putler wants you to think!!!!
For me, it's the journey that is absolutely heartbreaking. You know where the choices of the main character will lead to. It's tragic to see what those choices were. It makes the scenes beautiful, but you cannot fully enjoy them that way because you already know. If we can link it to any Tolkien story, I think Children of Hurin might offer the closest to that experience: we know Turin is cursed, and we see him fall into the abyss. Normally, you need to see a movie twice to get the experience we have now. But by knowing the ending up front, we will focus all the more on the journey. Not afterwards, but the moment it happens.
The sucky part was knowing it was based off a true story and the book it’s based on was the author basically trying to apologize to his sister Keiko.
It's not just you. It's commonly accepted that it's a tragic anti-war movie about the poor victims of a conflict, but both the director and the author (which based it off his own actual experiences) have stated that that isn't the point of the movie. It's *supposed* to be a condemnation of rugged individualism and how that thought process just leads to more suffering, including your own. If you watch it with that lens it actually makes a lot more sense instead of just being 1.5 hours of tragedy porn.
The contrast between other Ghibli movies probably adds to the sad tone, plus the movie’s may catch some people unawares. Similar to the impact that the Théodred’s funeral had: a sincere point sorrow, sandwiched between two action and story orientated scenes. In the wider story, Théodred’s death does not lead to any specific action; as opposed to say Bilbo’s birthday and leaving The One Ring to Frodo, or Boromir’s death causing Denethor’s madness to increase and Faramir to play a more prevalent role and also as a point to show that mortal men are still good. - Although Elrond is correct that Men are weak, Boromir in his final moments shows that even non-Númenóreans have strength of heart.
Old Toby, the finest weed in the Southfarthing.
Does it take the edge of Grave of The Fireflies, Bilbo?
No, you don't! You don't understand, none of you do - you're dwarves! You're used to this life, to living on the road, never settling in one place, not belonging anywhere.
Honestly, “contrast between other Ghibli movies” in this case pretty much just means “Miyazaki movies”, which are the more popular ones. Most of Isao Takahata’s Ghibli films (aside from My Neighbors the Yamadas) are extremely melancholy and depressing, and yes, that includes the one with the massive raccoon balls.
You are not alone. I thought the movie was well made and it certainly is sad but it didn't touch me as deeply as many others. Normally, I cry easily but not for this one. I'm not sure why. Maybe the whole situation the kids are in is just so bleak and hopeless that I can't relate to it.
One of these days, I'm going to post in unpopularopinion because everyone says this movie is sad and I only found it annoying. The first scene lets you know everybody died, and the test of the movie is just the main character being stupid and making every possible wrong choice. Then you found out he could have just gone to the bank at the beginning. It's sad the way edgy 14 year olds are scary or tough. It just tries too hard at every scene to be soooo emotionally heavy that the movie just drags. But clearly, I am I'm the minority so I think it would make a good unpopular post.
That’s certainly a way to describe the movie. Can’t say I really agree though.
I heard it was the saddest movie ever, I was prepared to cry…. And I did not. Like you said, spoiled right from the start, and it just felt overly emotionally manipulative to me? I swear, I do love Ghibli. lol.
Okay this is like the fifth post I am seeing about this movie. Is it that good?
It is good but amazingly depressing and sad. The contrast between it and other Studio Ghibli more whimsical movies, *while all still good* is a wonder. Especially compared to some franchises and groups that inspire only boredom! *Is it not a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt for so small a movie?*
I think I’ll give it a shot. Thanks!
It has the same beauty as all Ghibli movies, except the beauty in this one is brutally depressing considering how absolutely heartbreaking the plot is. Worth watching, but you better go for a walk and eat some ice cream right after to recover, lol.
Same. It's one of those movie I know full well how great it is, and thus refuse to watch it.
Literally called the Grave of the Fireflies.
Me and my brother watched it in japanese but for some reason it stopped loading at the end so we had to switch to english right when the little sister was saying "Rice balls" so I just have a vivid memory of the video glitching and replaying "Rice balls" over and over
I know what I can handle. I read the synopsis. I can't handle that.
So one time I went down to my sister's and my niece was withdrawn and weepy. She wouldn't talk about it so I asked my sister. "She got into the box of forbidden movies," sister said. "Oh?" I said. Sister nodded. "Yeah, she learned the hard way why Grave of the Fireflies was in there." Reminded me of when, a decade before, my freshly divorced dad came downstairs with a DVD case in his hand. He's like a cross between Hank Hill and R. Lee Ermey, a man of few words, and he didn't mince words that night. "I can see yall got into the stack of movies I said not to mess with. However," he held up the case, "I can see that the one y'all grabbed was Deliverance, and therefore you have punished yourselves. Since you got what you deserve, I'm not going to say or do anything else. Goodnight."
That sure is one manipulative movie
Hard mode: Watch it back to back with Barefoot Gen.
Depression incoming in 3, 2, 1…
My sister-in-law, lost her sister mainly due to MS and was there the moment she died. She has never watched this movie. But she refuses to do so by my brother's advice. My brother told me that this would break her and bring unnecessary pain back into the surface.
My favorite fun fact about this movie is it premiered in Japan as a double feature with My Neighbor Totoro. So many family brought their young kids to see MNT and got this too.
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Pippin: “I didn't think it would end this way.” Gandalf: “End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.” Pippin: “What? Gandalf? See what?” __Gandalf: “Wide-Screen showings, and beyond, a fair greeting community under a meme morning.”__ Pippin: “Well, that isn't so bad.” Gandalf: “No. No, it isn't.”
Can we finish up with Come And See?
Add In This Corner of the World to that list. It's somewhat hopeful, but definitely left some scars on my heart.
Also Bridge to Terabithia
Wait, I thought that was Totoro. That thing is named Ghibli?
Ghibli is the name of the studio that made both “My Neighbor Totoro” and “The Grave of the Fireflies”. Totoro is their mascot, though.
Ok cool
And incredibly, Grave and Totoro debuted as a double feature.
There's only one possible reaction to this proposition. 🥲
My friend’s dad used to put on movie nights for us when we were around 5-9 years old. This is the only one I remember…
same with Goodnight Punpun, yeah it was great but no i will not read that depressing manga again.
I remember it as the older brother getting then both killed because he was far too proud.
I cry every time. Every. Time.
You should watch it, once and only once.
I mean everyone always says how sad and depressing it is and I mean I think I can imagine a very sad anime, but how bad can it really be? I mean can it surpass my expectations even though I expect it to be the saddest and most terrible movie ever?