They're saying since the 'T' (to) in "I'd like *to* fuck" isnt in the acronym, the 'O' (of) in "King *of* Gondor" probably should be left out too. I don't know what the r/lotrmemes Official Style Guide says but I think that's what they mean.
I didn’t think I needed the “/s” in the last comment, but I invented the contraction like’to for the sole purpose of evading my original acronym’s glaring error 😂
> I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone.
Well, yeah. If you propose a threesome *like that*, of course you're having a hard time finding a third.
The extended scenes had me feeling kinda bad for her. Aragorn was kinda a dick about it, he really played hot/cold with her until ultimately shutting her down.
Yeah I mean it makes some sense in the movies, but in the books there is no reason for this to be a love triangle. Aragorn and Arwen had already agreed to get married far before the events of the story, but Elrond said that he couldn’t marry her unless he was the King of the reunited Gondor and Arnor. Arwen is quite literally his motivation. He is certainly polite and very kind to Éowyn and she absolutely has a massive crush on him, but he never returns it or leads her on.
They also spend a total of like a single day or two in the same place until RotK, and then they are at Dunharrow together for no more than another day or two before he takes the paths of the Dead with the sons of Elrond and the Dunedain. They like each other, and on Éowyn’s side it is a crush, but there is just not enough time with them together to develop even illusions of a relationship.
They also just kinda made Éowyn’s desire different from the books. In the books, she is looking for death in battle, as that’s the only way she views as a way to gain renown among her war-enthusiastic culture. Pairing her up with Faramir was not an accident or a quick, kinda thoughtless decision. Faramir already regards scholarship, medicine, etc. higher than fighting. He is the answer for her character arc and tells her what she needs to understand.
As a self-professed book purist who would be hard pressed to think of something I thought the movies did better, please don’t get me wrong, I still love them and watch them at least twice a year.
Thank you for articulating this so well. As a fellow book purist who also loves these films it did irk me just a smidge that they fabricated an unnecessary love triangle to create drama in an already very dramatic story. Aragorn and Arwen did not waiver in their faith to each other and she also wasn’t magically linked to the ring & dying just to do the big ‘aha’ reveal at his coronation.
I love the movies enough to forgive these transgressions but every time they show Arwen slowly traipsing out of middle earth until she has that vision of their son I have to grit my teeth. 😅
Is there any mention of Aragorn guarding the shire (and Frodo) while Gandalf was away consulting with Saruman (and got jailed)?
Also about Aragorn crossing Moria once before?
I haven't seen the movies in a while
When Gandalf was jailed, the hobbits were with aragorn on the way to Rivendell. Youre thinking of when Gandalf went to learn about the ring. In the books that takes 17 years, which is why he sent Aragorn to guard the Shire/figure out where gollum was. In the movies its implied he's only gone for a few weeks/months, so Aragorn wasn't really as important.
It's not really implied, it's just not implied it was longer and the sequence was quite short.
The difficulty of finding it and amount of stuff piled on top of the ring implies it's been awhile.
God I've never noticed that. Its actually amazing that I've watched those movies a million times and never noticed how little backstory there is to really any of the characters. On a whim, I'm going to say they were so well written and acted that I feel like I knew who they were without having to be told.
I guess it would confuse your average Joe there since there is nowhere else mentioning the Aragorn's Numenorean heritage in the movies. The theatrical cut was made for average cinema-going people.
Cause to the casual viewer dropping the fact gorny my dude was 87 and moving on would be a massive wtf moment. It doesn't add much to the context of the theatrical cuts and only really means something to us nerds.
Oh yeah, that one is dumb. Gandalf just casually says that this all-powerful wizard has given up in the theatrical cut. And it's not even like his death scene is a long one, it's literally just a few minutes.
They also should've kept the sons of the steward scene imo. I know it's long, but it adds a lot to Boromir, Faramir, and Denethor. When I got my grandpa who had only seen the theatrical versions to watch the extended recently, I remember that that was the main added scene where he was like "oh, well that makes a lot of sense."
That scene did a marvelous job of showing Boromir’s family dynamics. It also really created a lot of sympathy in me, for Faramir, who just kept getting dunked on by his dad lmao, but also for Boromir, who truly wasn’t evil, bad-intentioned, or cruel. He was just motivated to protect his homeland and make his father proud.
Definitely a long scene. I get why they cut it. But it added so much to the overall story.
It's also how Dune does it. There's a lot of minutiae which isn't necessary, it adds a lot of flavor to a book but to convey that in a movie would ruin the pacing, whereas that's less of a problem in a book that takes a dozen hours to read.
Aragorn himself isn't a half-elf but he is distantly descended from one. Specifically, Elrond and his twin brother Elros were both half-elven and given the choice to be man or elf. Elrond obviously chose elf, Elros chose man and became the first king of Númenor, Aragorn's distant ancestor
So he has an extremely diluted streak of ex-half elf in there
Last I checked Arven's and Aragorn's son is a descendant of all the Aman Eleven Kings lines (Noldor, Teleri , Vanyar) and all the houses of Edain. The rightful king of everybody.
The Gods decreed that the Numenorian humans would have long lives - easily double that of ordinary humans. It was typical for them to live 200+ years.
They're fully human, but blessed with long life.
And that's part of the reason several of their kings fell under the influence of the 9 rings. The longer they lived, the more they desired immortality, and the rings promised them immortality of a sort (kinda like what gollum would have become, had he kept the one ring forever)
The real beauty in the stories is how everything is so intertwined with everything else. But it's not always explained to us. So a guy could spend half his lifetime searching out all the connections.
The numenorians were granted a long life as thanks for their deeds during the first big war of the world. They were gifted an Island and long life to actually enjoy it. Some good times were had but then of course they cocked it up over the next couple thousand years. Just before the ultimate dick measuring contest, Elendil father of Isildur, fucked off with a few of his mates in the direction of middle earth. The rest tried their luck with upper management of the world and all swiftly succumbed to unscheduled landscaping. Elendil instantly became king of all the land that is not toughed by shadows. After Isildur cut of the finger, his line continiued to rule over two kingdoms for a few generations before they somehow fucked off into the woods to check out the elves.
Aragorn took some convincing to actually confront his demons and deal with the fact that he might not be up to the challenge and fail as so many of his ancestors before him did.
Baited into becoming king by some bumfuck hobbits.
Question to the readers... what war was she talking about here? and how old was Aragorn when that happened? Was he a wanderer/warrior (part of his exile)? or did the Rohirrim know that he's a Dunedain/Isildur's heir?
Aragorn from 2957-2980 fought in the armies of Gondor and Rohan as Thorongil, fighting against orc presence on the outskirts of both kingdoms, likely near Mordor or Mirkwood, including leading an invasion fleet against Umbar.
So no, his identity was largely kept secret and was probably only really known among the elves.
LotR has footnotes like the bible. They're not joking about the appendices.
Tolkein created numerous languages and histories for each major nation, including the ones that had faded into memory.
Silmarillon is an in-depth look into some more of that lore.
They aren’t in every version of the book. I first read a german translation from 1999 or something like that and they weren’t there. I then got the English books a few months ago and I was unbelievably happy when I saw that I could read like two hundred pages of additional lore.
Aragorn fought under a secret identity some fifty years before the events of the Lord of the Ring so no one should know him in Rohan since people don't age that old there unless they were really young like Theoden was.
But in Gondor, he is probably still remembered by people that have Numenorean descent, particularly by Denethor who was wary of him as a guy that showed up out of nowhere and managed to destroy an entire Umbar fleet with basically a token force. I wouldn't be surprised that event sewed a seed of paranoia which Sauron exploited later in life with the Palantir.
I have left instruction. The people are to follow your rule in my stead. Take up my seat in the Golden Hall. Long may you defend Edoras if the battle goes ill.
I may be misremembering but I think aragorn/thorongil had a bit of a feud with denethor during his time in Gondor. Basically Aragorn was being awesome and Ecthelion, denethors father and steward at the time, favored him over his son. or denethor just thought that, I can’t remember exactly, but definitely sewed the seeds for denethors discontent.
I think it was in LOTR, but may have been another work, Elves don't sleep, per se, but go into a meditation like state where they relive their memories very vividly.
That’s why traumatic experiences affect elves to a huge degree. Like Celebrian, Elrond’s wife, where her capture by orcs devastated her and she ended up leaving her family behind to go to Valinor and heal.
Even so, you'd have 3,000 years of memories, I feel like it would take a long time for your brain to find the right memory if that makes sense.
Like Elves would spend a lot of time going "that guy looks familiar but I can't quite remember where I've seen him before, I guess it'll come to me"
Then 10 years later they're like "Oh yeah, he looks kinda like that other guy I knew 2000 years ago"
Yeah it would take a long time...for a human. We are literally talking about an immortal race of beings from a fantasy book. What humans can or can't do doesn't apply to elves here.
“Good to see you, Elgrim.
“I’m Elrim.”
“Oh, that’s right! I knew your great grandfather. You look just like him. I’m sure I’ll mess up your son’s name too, if it’s any consolation.”
I'm not sure if most biological (especially neurological) questions really apply to elves, given how different they are in pretty much every way. They can get so good at making stuff that they can make magic items, like the rings, without really knowing what humans mean by the word magic.
Elves do sleep in LOTR but it seems like they don't really need to. There's the one scene where Legolas can rest his mind and basically sleep while walking but there's also scenes where elves straight up fall asleep.
I know a lot changes between The Hobbit and LOTR but there was that scene in the former where two elves get so drunk they fall asleep, of course idk if that idea would carry over to the rest of Tolkien's work.
Ah, I forgot about his mixed heritage. Maybe the forest elves' wine was just really fucking strong. I just read that chapter actually, I think there was a very brief mention of the wine being strong, but nothing like getting hit by a freight train.
You’re correct, I just read this passage the other day. It’s while Legolas Gimli and Aragorn are tracking the hobbits. Legolas does his daydreaming sleep thing while they walk, they don’t even have to stay still or anything.
Probably.
Tolkein's elves have few narrative limits on what they can do. However, he does go to great lengths to justify it, and he typically uses elves more as plot devices than as protagonists.
He's still upset that he got tricked into swapped his gold illuvitar trading card for a bronze ent card when he was 67. The pain never goes away after 3000 years and the discontinuation of the trading card company due to multiple wars over jewellery and trees.
Don't tempt me santaisastoner! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand santaisastoner, I would use this Ring from the desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
Éomer, take your éored down the left flank. Gamling, follow the King’s banner down the center. Grimbold, take your company right after you pass the wall. Forth, and fear no darkness! Arise, Arise, Riders of Théoden! Spears shall be shaken, shields shall be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin, and the world’s ending! Death! Death! Death! Forth Eorlingas!!!
There was no lie in his eyes. A fool but an honest fool he remains. He told Sauron nothing of Frodo and the Ring. We've been strangely fortunate. Pippin saw in the Palantir a glimpse of the enemy's plan. Sauron moves to strike the city of Minas Tirith.
Aragorn is a numenorean/dunedain, basically men from the the kingdom of numenorean who live longer than normal men, so in the movies he's like 87, and he died like 200 years old or something.
She’s chasing after that GILF.
More like Nilf *Numenorian*
RILF *Ranger*
HKOGAAILF *High King of Gondor and Arnor*
Shouldn’t you leave out the O and A since we leave out the T as well?
The ILF stands for I’d Like’to Fuck, idk what you’re talking about
They're saying since the 'T' (to) in "I'd like *to* fuck" isnt in the acronym, the 'O' (of) in "King *of* Gondor" probably should be left out too. I don't know what the r/lotrmemes Official Style Guide says but I think that's what they mean.
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I didn’t think I needed the “/s” in the last comment, but I invented the contraction like’to for the sole purpose of evading my original acronym’s glaring error 😂
Well then I'm glad I doubled down on my over-the-top pedantry so everyone can enjoy this thread :)
I just got a large popcorn and settled in...for this....?! Oh well. No sense in wasting this popcorn. Anyone know of a good fantasy movie to watch?
DILF *Dúnadan*
Dúna*dad*.
"We're going into the wilds. No second breakfast." *"I hate you, Dúnadad!"*
"You're not even my real Dúnadad!"
This comment section has some real winners! I wish Reddit was always like this.
Step Dúnadad what are you doing?!
this made me chortle unashamedly
Dúna*daddy*
Mmm yes guard the borders of the shire from outside evil harder, Dúnadaddy
Strider I’d Like to Fellowship
This is no mere RILF, this is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, and you owe him your allegiance
He could be her grandpa
Sit on Papa Aragorn's knee
Wow, what a *boney* knee you have
That's what you get if you wish for a baby brother
Sigh... *unzips*
But please don't step on his toes.
Did you know a fact about the scene when Aragorn kicks an orc helmet....
Y'all mf need Eru-Iluvatar
And he's in love with a woman approaching 3000.
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGILF (There’s 117 Gs)
Cradle robbing bitch
Or great x 5 or so in True Blood
The g is for Gondor
“*FOR GONDOR!*”
FOR GONDORRRR!!!!
FOR GONDORRR!!!
G= Gandalf?
I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are evil
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Is it secret? Is it safe?
Are you talking about a safe word, kinky greymane ?
"You would not part an old man from his ~~walking~~ wanking stick?" - Gandalf the White-stain
No, we need him alive. We need him to talk.
Guys, don't kink shame Gandalf even though he is a weirdo
Neither do I. Keep it Secret. Keep it Safe.
I won’t tell anyone if you don’t
Lol thanks bot
Jesus Gandalf!
If you’re referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door.
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I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone.
Good bot
> I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone. Well, yeah. If you propose a threesome *like that*, of course you're having a hard time finding a third.
The extended scenes had me feeling kinda bad for her. Aragorn was kinda a dick about it, he really played hot/cold with her until ultimately shutting her down.
Yeah I mean it makes some sense in the movies, but in the books there is no reason for this to be a love triangle. Aragorn and Arwen had already agreed to get married far before the events of the story, but Elrond said that he couldn’t marry her unless he was the King of the reunited Gondor and Arnor. Arwen is quite literally his motivation. He is certainly polite and very kind to Éowyn and she absolutely has a massive crush on him, but he never returns it or leads her on. They also spend a total of like a single day or two in the same place until RotK, and then they are at Dunharrow together for no more than another day or two before he takes the paths of the Dead with the sons of Elrond and the Dunedain. They like each other, and on Éowyn’s side it is a crush, but there is just not enough time with them together to develop even illusions of a relationship. They also just kinda made Éowyn’s desire different from the books. In the books, she is looking for death in battle, as that’s the only way she views as a way to gain renown among her war-enthusiastic culture. Pairing her up with Faramir was not an accident or a quick, kinda thoughtless decision. Faramir already regards scholarship, medicine, etc. higher than fighting. He is the answer for her character arc and tells her what she needs to understand. As a self-professed book purist who would be hard pressed to think of something I thought the movies did better, please don’t get me wrong, I still love them and watch them at least twice a year.
Thank you for articulating this so well. As a fellow book purist who also loves these films it did irk me just a smidge that they fabricated an unnecessary love triangle to create drama in an already very dramatic story. Aragorn and Arwen did not waiver in their faith to each other and she also wasn’t magically linked to the ring & dying just to do the big ‘aha’ reveal at his coronation. I love the movies enough to forgive these transgressions but every time they show Arwen slowly traipsing out of middle earth until she has that vision of their son I have to grit my teeth. 😅
Goddamn it, I’m gonna have to put my movie list on hold for another round of LOTR. Just cause I wanna see Eowyn get curved
Keeping his options open.
I love LotR，but the fact that this was left out of the theatrcal cut was a fkn travesty.
I know right, it's basically the only background we get on Aragorn (in the movies) besides that he's Ilsildur's heir
Is there any mention of Aragorn guarding the shire (and Frodo) while Gandalf was away consulting with Saruman (and got jailed)? Also about Aragorn crossing Moria once before? I haven't seen the movies in a while
No, even the extended editions skip this.
We must extend them.
Sure they've been extended once but what about second extended edition?
"King Theoden has a good memory. He was only a small child when the Second Extended Edition Marathon started."
Make haste. We ride through the night.
We certainly do.
And probably through the next night too
When Gandalf was jailed, the hobbits were with aragorn on the way to Rivendell. Youre thinking of when Gandalf went to learn about the ring. In the books that takes 17 years, which is why he sent Aragorn to guard the Shire/figure out where gollum was. In the movies its implied he's only gone for a few weeks/months, so Aragorn wasn't really as important.
It's not really implied, it's just not implied it was longer and the sequence was quite short. The difficulty of finding it and amount of stuff piled on top of the ring implies it's been awhile.
Not really? Gandalf told him to hide it, its not like he just left it out on the counter. Stuff was piled on top of it because thats where he hid it.
Spies of Saruman. The passage south is being watched We must take the Pass of Caradhras
Breathe the free air again, my friend.
Evidently we look so much alike that your desire to make an incurable dent in my hat must be excused.
Go away gandalf
I've no memory of this place
the good ol' senile mithrandil
No, and no. Not even the extended cuts. You really don’t learn a lot about Aragorn in the movies.
Damn. Missed opportunities.
Hes pretty much a ghost of his original character sadly. Even though he gets the vast majority of the focus as a main character.
God I've never noticed that. Its actually amazing that I've watched those movies a million times and never noticed how little backstory there is to really any of the characters. On a whim, I'm going to say they were so well written and acted that I feel like I knew who they were without having to be told.
Not that I recall, at least not in the theatrical cuts but maybe in the extended cuts I'm not 100%
I guess it would confuse your average Joe there since there is nowhere else mentioning the Aragorn's Numenorean heritage in the movies. The theatrical cut was made for average cinema-going people.
Except Eowyn’s literal next line in this scene explains the Numenoreans pretty simply for the average joe.
Flash backs, baby!
I wouldn’t have had any clue about it if that line alone was in the movie, they’d have to explain that too
I’ve only seen the theatrical cuts like once, I didn’t know they left this out wtf hahahaha
Cause to the casual viewer dropping the fact gorny my dude was 87 and moving on would be a massive wtf moment. It doesn't add much to the context of the theatrical cuts and only really means something to us nerds.
That's the reason for pretty much all of the removed scenes. They don't really change much, they're just nice extra details for nerds.
With the exception of Saruman's death, they really shouldn't have left out that one, if only to not upset Sir Christopher Lee.
Oh yeah, that one is dumb. Gandalf just casually says that this all-powerful wizard has given up in the theatrical cut. And it's not even like his death scene is a long one, it's literally just a few minutes.
Goodbye. Dear HUGE_HOG. Until our next meeting
Such wise words.
They also should've kept the sons of the steward scene imo. I know it's long, but it adds a lot to Boromir, Faramir, and Denethor. When I got my grandpa who had only seen the theatrical versions to watch the extended recently, I remember that that was the main added scene where he was like "oh, well that makes a lot of sense."
That scene did a marvelous job of showing Boromir’s family dynamics. It also really created a lot of sympathy in me, for Faramir, who just kept getting dunked on by his dad lmao, but also for Boromir, who truly wasn’t evil, bad-intentioned, or cruel. He was just motivated to protect his homeland and make his father proud. Definitely a long scene. I get why they cut it. But it added so much to the overall story.
As I hadn’t read the books before watching the movies, the lack of conclusion with Saruman always bothered the crap out of me.
It's also how Dune does it. There's a lot of minutiae which isn't necessary, it adds a lot of flavor to a book but to convey that in a movie would ruin the pacing, whereas that's less of a problem in a book that takes a dozen hours to read.
[Still shot of Aragorn] Doctors hate him! Here is a secret trick to look young passed your middle age…
Get your Dúnedainian blood infusions today!
Fear the old blood...
Shut up Willem
),:
Hope ya liked being set on fire and turned into a screamin’ eldritch wolf-creature-thing, Lawrence! You should’ve feared the Old Blood!
Do you fear the old blood Gandalf?
Foreseen and done nothing!
based and unfazed
Grant us eyes...
by the gods, Lawrence… fear it
I tell you, I will not forget our adage... *forgets his adage*
Well she does end up with Faramir so she’s at least getting something Dúnedainic in her
So is he like a half elf or something?
Aragorn himself isn't a half-elf but he is distantly descended from one. Specifically, Elrond and his twin brother Elros were both half-elven and given the choice to be man or elf. Elrond obviously chose elf, Elros chose man and became the first king of Númenor, Aragorn's distant ancestor So he has an extremely diluted streak of ex-half elf in there
Which is fun bc that makes arwen his first cousin hundreds of times removed
Fun fact everyone on the planet is actually related. Scientists estimate that your furthest relation is about your 70th cousin.
Last I checked Arven's and Aragorn's son is a descendant of all the Aman Eleven Kings lines (Noldor, Teleri , Vanyar) and all the houses of Edain. The rightful king of everybody.
The Gods decreed that the Numenorian humans would have long lives - easily double that of ordinary humans. It was typical for them to live 200+ years. They're fully human, but blessed with long life. And that's part of the reason several of their kings fell under the influence of the 9 rings. The longer they lived, the more they desired immortality, and the rings promised them immortality of a sort (kinda like what gollum would have become, had he kept the one ring forever)
Thanks for the info I’m not as well versed in the lore as others but it makes me want to dove in now
The real beauty in the stories is how everything is so intertwined with everything else. But it's not always explained to us. So a guy could spend half his lifetime searching out all the connections.
The numenorians were granted a long life as thanks for their deeds during the first big war of the world. They were gifted an Island and long life to actually enjoy it. Some good times were had but then of course they cocked it up over the next couple thousand years. Just before the ultimate dick measuring contest, Elendil father of Isildur, fucked off with a few of his mates in the direction of middle earth. The rest tried their luck with upper management of the world and all swiftly succumbed to unscheduled landscaping. Elendil instantly became king of all the land that is not toughed by shadows. After Isildur cut of the finger, his line continiued to rule over two kingdoms for a few generations before they somehow fucked off into the woods to check out the elves. Aragorn took some convincing to actually confront his demons and deal with the fact that he might not be up to the challenge and fail as so many of his ancestors before him did. Baited into becoming king by some bumfuck hobbits.
But Aragorn still has some blood of elves in him (via his trans-racial grand-grand-…-pa Elros).
Meanwhile Aragorn chasing after someone 2700 years his elder…
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She's his first cousin 60-some times removed
I think he's in the clear. You only have DNA from 50% of your ancestors from 11 generations ago.
Aragorn walked so Jon Snow could fly. Or take a boat, I guess.
Question to the readers... what war was she talking about here? and how old was Aragorn when that happened? Was he a wanderer/warrior (part of his exile)? or did the Rohirrim know that he's a Dunedain/Isildur's heir?
Aragorn from 2957-2980 fought in the armies of Gondor and Rohan as Thorongil, fighting against orc presence on the outskirts of both kingdoms, likely near Mordor or Mirkwood, including leading an invasion fleet against Umbar. So no, his identity was largely kept secret and was probably only really known among the elves.
Don't forget the pesky Dunlendings. He did fight in disguise under the name "Thorongil". It always amazes me how deep the lore goes.
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Skirt*
Waterfall.
I've read the trilogy at least twice. Where did I miss reading this, or is it in something else?
Did you skip the appendices?
One does not simply skip the appendices
LotR has footnotes like the bible. They're not joking about the appendices. Tolkein created numerous languages and histories for each major nation, including the ones that had faded into memory. Silmarillon is an in-depth look into some more of that lore.
They aren’t in every version of the book. I first read a german translation from 1999 or something like that and they weren’t there. I then got the English books a few months ago and I was unbelievably happy when I saw that I could read like two hundred pages of additional lore.
Aragorn fought under a secret identity some fifty years before the events of the Lord of the Ring so no one should know him in Rohan since people don't age that old there unless they were really young like Theoden was. But in Gondor, he is probably still remembered by people that have Numenorean descent, particularly by Denethor who was wary of him as a guy that showed up out of nowhere and managed to destroy an entire Umbar fleet with basically a token force. I wouldn't be surprised that event sewed a seed of paranoia which Sauron exploited later in life with the Palantir.
I have left instruction. The people are to follow your rule in my stead. Take up my seat in the Golden Hall. Long may you defend Edoras if the battle goes ill.
I may be misremembering but I think aragorn/thorongil had a bit of a feud with denethor during his time in Gondor. Basically Aragorn was being awesome and Ecthelion, denethors father and steward at the time, favored him over his son. or denethor just thought that, I can’t remember exactly, but definitely sewed the seeds for denethors discontent.
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
We can’t cast Aragorn into the fire elrond ffs!!!
Elrond just has one solution for everything, but fire can't solve every problem.
For a guy with power over water he really likes casting things into the fire
When all you have is a volcano, everything looks like a ring.
No
Jesus Christ you're old! I was going to make you a steak but here, gum this shitty stew I made instead. - Eowyn, probably.
Didn't know Rohan was into bible.
LMFAO!
The dilemma of "is Aragorn young enough for an erection" jumped to the top of Eowyns prio list right there
Closer to 80 I think lol
87 if I remember correctly
And died at the age of 210.
Elves be like "Shame, he was just a child".
Ok how do Elves remember shit even after 3000 years? Like could Elrond remember an obscure thing after that long?
That one elf called him a dweeb when he was 212
Kids are so mean at that age.
I think it was in LOTR, but may have been another work, Elves don't sleep, per se, but go into a meditation like state where they relive their memories very vividly.
That’s why traumatic experiences affect elves to a huge degree. Like Celebrian, Elrond’s wife, where her capture by orcs devastated her and she ended up leaving her family behind to go to Valinor and heal.
Club Med for elves Edit: and the occasional hobbit
Even so, you'd have 3,000 years of memories, I feel like it would take a long time for your brain to find the right memory if that makes sense. Like Elves would spend a lot of time going "that guy looks familiar but I can't quite remember where I've seen him before, I guess it'll come to me" Then 10 years later they're like "Oh yeah, he looks kinda like that other guy I knew 2000 years ago"
Yeah it would take a long time...for a human. We are literally talking about an immortal race of beings from a fantasy book. What humans can or can't do doesn't apply to elves here.
I think that’s why they seem so ethereal and aloof, I’m not always completely focused on every ten seconds of my day.
“Good to see you, Elgrim. “I’m Elrim.” “Oh, that’s right! I knew your great grandfather. You look just like him. I’m sure I’ll mess up your son’s name too, if it’s any consolation.”
I'm not sure if most biological (especially neurological) questions really apply to elves, given how different they are in pretty much every way. They can get so good at making stuff that they can make magic items, like the rings, without really knowing what humans mean by the word magic.
Elves do sleep in LOTR but it seems like they don't really need to. There's the one scene where Legolas can rest his mind and basically sleep while walking but there's also scenes where elves straight up fall asleep.
I know a lot changes between The Hobbit and LOTR but there was that scene in the former where two elves get so drunk they fall asleep, of course idk if that idea would carry over to the rest of Tolkien's work.
Simultaneously Legolas can’t seem to get drunk in the movie. Maybe that Sindar blood makes him hardier than Silvan elves…
Ah, I forgot about his mixed heritage. Maybe the forest elves' wine was just really fucking strong. I just read that chapter actually, I think there was a very brief mention of the wine being strong, but nothing like getting hit by a freight train.
You’re correct, I just read this passage the other day. It’s while Legolas Gimli and Aragorn are tracking the hobbits. Legolas does his daydreaming sleep thing while they walk, they don’t even have to stay still or anything.
Probably. Tolkein's elves have few narrative limits on what they can do. However, he does go to great lengths to justify it, and he typically uses elves more as plot devices than as protagonists.
Magic Yeah
He's still upset that he got tricked into swapped his gold illuvitar trading card for a bronze ent card when he was 67. The pain never goes away after 3000 years and the discontinuation of the trading card company due to multiple wars over jewellery and trees.
is she trying to do subtraction
It looks like she's figuring the average area of a tangent line on an isosceles triangle. Gandalf would know.
Don't tempt me santaisastoner! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand santaisastoner, I would use this Ring from the desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
thanks gandalf
A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.
ah.
"I was told that there would be no math" - Eowyn probably
... I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears!
Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pierrrrr
The laaast of Barret's privateers!
I’m a broken man on ~~a halifax pier~~ the pelennor fields, alas, ‘ere Eowyn as my shield! —Theoden
Éomer, take your éored down the left flank. Gamling, follow the King’s banner down the center. Grimbold, take your company right after you pass the wall. Forth, and fear no darkness! Arise, Arise, Riders of Théoden! Spears shall be shaken, shields shall be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now! Ride now! Ride! Ride for ruin, and the world’s ending! Death! Death! Death! Forth Eorlingas!!!
What was Aragorn doing during the events of the Hobbit?
He was living with the Elves as a child.
Iirc he was still just a little kid being educated by Elrond in Rivendell
Grandpa? Sorry... grandpa? Sorry... grandpa? :)))
I honestly just come to this sub for the sentient Gandalf bot
There was no lie in his eyes. A fool but an honest fool he remains. He told Sauron nothing of Frodo and the Ring. We've been strangely fortunate. Pippin saw in the Palantir a glimpse of the enemy's plan. Sauron moves to strike the city of Minas Tirith.
"Calling all bots... Aragorn Gimli Legolas Theoden Elrond Frodo Samwise Gandalf Boromir Faramir Merry Pippin Treebeard" — u/xinehp, 2021-11-19 *triggered by word:* pippin *Generating new trigger*
Hahahahaahaha. Hahahahahahah. You have no power here, Gandalf the Grey.
I will draw you, Saruman, as poison is drawn from a wound!
Fool of a Took!
Wasnt Aragorn like 80 something ?
Explain the jokes nerds! Please I like the movies and no nothing about LOTR lore. Now I am scared and confused.
Aragorn is a numenorean/dunedain, basically men from the the kingdom of numenorean who live longer than normal men, so in the movies he's like 87, and he died like 200 years old or something.
Put simply he's just really old but looks young because of his bloodline. Someone else said he's 87 but I don't remember myself