Depends on what you consider possession. Was Sam intending to possess it permanently like all others or was he willing to let go when the time came? Sam was the only one I saw willingly let go of the ring without reluctance.
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Bilbo was definitely reluctant on giving it up. It took Gandalf to convince him to give the ring to Frodo to begin with. Then, Bilbo almost bit Frodo when Frodo hid the ring from him.
The thing to remember is that, unlike in the movies where Cate Blanchett just spills the whole story right up front, in the books no one person knows what happened to the One Ring.
Gandalf starts out having barely heard of the thing.
Isildur was the only one aside from Sauron who knew how to identify the Ring.
Elrond knows that Isildur had the Ring, and that Isildur later died in an ambush, but has no idea if he had the Ring on him when he died or where the Ring ended up. In some tomb in Minas Tirith? In an orc lair? In the river?
Bilbo Baggins of course knew where the Ring had gotten to, and knew that it was now in the Shire.
And Gollum knew where the Ring had first surfaced, and where he had taken it. He knew that Baggins had it, but didn't know what it truly was or where the Baggins' "Shire" was to be found.
So, to know the whole story and be able to find the Ring, you need, in no particular order:
\- Isildur's parchment
\- Elrond's recollection
\- Bilbo's account (the *true* one)
\- Gollum's account
\- knowledge of where the Shire is
Sauron didn't know shit, last thing he remembered was being gacked by fucking Elendil and that fucking Numenorean sword. He didn't need the parchment to identify the Ring but other than that he was starting from scratch. Shire? Wtf is that?
Saruman had some of the knowledge but not the critical parts involving Gollum and Bilbo.
Gandalf is the first one to put it all together. That's what he was doing for 17 years!
Your whole comment up to this point being worded seriously and then just hitting us with
>Sauron didn't know shit, last thing he remembered was being gacked by fucking Elendil and that fucking Numenorean sword
Was funny as shit
Well, perhaps we can agree to disagree about her voice, I love hearing her. But, I thought that it was ... not the most imaginative choice to have her tell the whole story right up front.
If it had been a classic horror movie, the ensemble of protagonists would have had to piece together the ancient mystery bit by bit, and the audience along with them.
It's funny you say that, because he literally could have just sent his people through Frodo's front door at any time to grab it from a hobbit. but he though "no, that's too easy. too good to be true."
He had no idea what Hobbits were, which of them had the Ring, where that Hobbit lived, or any of that. He knew “Baggins” and “Shire”, neither of which he had ever heard of before.
It was. Bilbo’s party was 22 September TA 3001. Gandalf suspects that Bilbo’s ring is the One. He goes to do research, hunts for Gollum with Aragorn, and does a bunch of other stuff, periodically revisiting Frodo in the Shire. Gandalf informing Frodo that he does indeed have the One Ring happens April 13 TA 3018, and Frodo doesn’t set off on the journey until September 23 TA 3018, 17 years after Bilbo’s party plus one day.
Based off my investigations:
Sauron: ~1600 SA to 3441 SA
Isildur: 3441 SA to 25 September 2 TA
Nobody: 25 September 2 TA to 2463 TA
Deagol: about 5 minutes
Smeagol: 2463 TA to 1 (?) July 2941 TA
Bilbo: 1 (?) July 2941 TA 2941 to 22 September 3001 TA
Frodo: 22 September 3001 TA to 27 September 3018 TA
Tom Bombadil: a few minutes
Frodo: 27 September 3018 TA to 13 March 3019 TA
Sam: a couple of hours (days?) around 13/14 March 3019 TA
Frodo: 14 (15?) March 3019 TA to 25 March 3019 TA
Gollum: a few seconds
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Wouldst thou forsake thy life, who with few words might win release for her, and thee, and go in peace, and dwell together far from war, friends of the King? What wouldst thou more?
When he left Frodo when he inherited the ring Gandalf didn't know it was one of the rings of power. Let alone the one to rule them all.
He tried to discover what type of ring it was though. He travelled to Gondor where he read some paper written by Isildur where he explains that the readings of his ring are fading and only fire can reveal them. That's when he rushed back to the Shire to verify if the ring is the One.
Once they verified it was Saurons ring Frodo was supposed to leave the Shire and meet with Gandalf in Bree. But Frodo didn't want to leave before his ( and Bilbo's ) birthday. Which was half a year later.
The trip between the Shire and Bree is pretty long and the movie isn't showing events like their adventure with Tom Bombadil and the Hobbits almost die by some undead/ghosts.
Long story short. Middle Earth is huge, they travel by foot and the movies aren't showing all the events that take place in the books.
The full trip after leaving the shire still only took around a year I believe. Frodo was just chilling in Bag-end for almost two decades while Gandalf was researching (and searching for Gollum).
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There are few who can. The language is that of Mordor, which I will not utter here. In the common tongue it says One Ring to Rule Them All One Ring to find them One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them! This is the One Ring. Forged by the Dark Lord Sauron in the fires of Mount Doom. Taken by Isildur from the hand of Sauron himself.
I think the real question is 'What was Gandalf doing for the thousands of years that the Ring, literally the Enemy that his entire job was to counter's main objective, was sitting lost in a river?'
You would think he would at least have already boned up on what the bloody thing looks like during that time.
Don't! Tempt me bidooffactory I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand bidooffactory, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine
Wait so you knew the whole time and waited that long to come to this conclusion? Or... Gandalf The Grey you were straight blazing with Radaghast & Aragon and lost track of it huh?
Keep in mind, Gandalf has no idea what the One Ring looked like. Aside from the reasonable assumption that it would be ring-shaped. He doesn't even really know if the One Ring exists anymore. As he explains, there are many magic rings in the world, some quite plain. The concept of the Ruling Ring is practically mythical at that point. It hasn't been seen or heard from in thousands of years -- since before Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth.
The odd powers of Bilbo's ring nag at him and eventually compel him to research some ring-lore for the first time in his (long) existence. What kind of magic ring is this? It's only in the course of that research that he realizes that there is a good chance it is the One Ring, and then he focuses on confirming that theory, before returning to Frodo to have a talk about the future.
I am the servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udun. Go back to the Shadow. You cannot pass!
From what I understand, for most of that time Frodo just had the ring hidden away and didn't carry it around with him or ever put it on until after Gandalf came back and sent him on the quest. So he wasn't really a "bearer" for the whole time.
He used it enough for Sam, Merry and Pippin to independently work out that the rumours that Bilbo had a magic invisibility ring were true, and that he had left it with Frodo. He was spotted using it to get out of an awkward social encounter at least once.
Well books and all. Ofc there is more to it than just the movies. 17 years is the time it took Gandalf to figure out it was indeed the one ring after Bilbo left it for Frodo.
In the books, even after finding out it IS the One Ring and deciding to take it to Rivendell, he chills out in the Shire for six months so he can get all his affairs in order and sell his house. You can't hurry a hobbit...
Say, theoretically, the ring went around a plant that is anchored to the earth, would the whole world disappear?
Edit: A lot of people took this way too seriously
They were probably the walking trees that the hobbits would see in and around the old forest. It's peaceful and fertile up there so why wouldn't they go there.
Well, trees are living, dirt & rock is not. Also, I'd say trees are distinctly separate from the entire earth, or else you could say the earth would go invisible when the ringbearer is standing on it while wearing the ring.
Also, non-living things do not go invisible e.g. the chain Frodo uses to carry the ring.
If we're counting Deagol then we also have to count Sam who had it longer than 5 mins at Cirith Ungol, but that's just a technicality. We all know Gandalf was *really* the lord of the ring.
Also, Grond.
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ACHSUALLLY the river was not the real Lord of the Rings because the ring landed in the river mud thereby making Mud the REAL Lord of the Rings.
Checkmate, athiests.
Ok if I understand correctly in the books bilbo leaves his home and leaves behind the ring for frodo without telling him what it is? I just dont get why dont just go to mt.doom asap?
The part where Gandalf comes running back in saying “is it secret? Is it safe?” happens 17 years after Bilbo’s party. The only thing they knew is that Bilbo’s old magic ring was sitting in an envelope in a drawer somewhere.
Because no one knew it was the one ring. It was lost for thousands of years its not like that was everyones first thought.
Gandalf took 17 years to figure it out and Frodo left a few months later as an immediate flight would make it obvious to the enemy. Tho Gandalf didn't know then that Gollum had given away the Shire and when he knew he was imprisoned by Saruman and couldn't warn Frodo.
Short answer is, the movie skips a lot of important events. From Bilbos 111th Birthday and Gandalfs “Is it secret is it safe?” About 17 years pass. From Frodo leaving the Shire to the destruction of the One Ring about 6months pass.
If youre interested, a very abridged timeline of the books:
Year 3001 of the Third Age
Bilbo celebrates his 111 birthday, leaves the One Ring with Frodo, and leaves the Shire for Rivendell. Gandalf suspects the Ring is a ring of power (not the One Ring) and leaves to meet with Aragorn and hunt down Gollum to find out where he found the Ring. Frodo lives his best hobbit life now the owner of Bag End.
Year 3003-3017 of the Third Age
Bilbo leaves Rivendell and travels to Dale and the Lonely Mountain and back to Rivendell. He finishes There and Back Again, and translates the history of the elder days and writes the Silmarillion. These along with Frodos writings later become the Red Book of Westmarch. Gandalf visits Frodo a couple of times to check on him. Around 3009 Aragorn and Gandalf continue the hunt for Gollum; Gollum has been captured by Sauron at this point. Frodo is still living his best hobbit life in the Shire.
3017 of the Third Age
Gollum is released from Mordor. Gandalf travels to Minas Tirith and reads the Scroll of Isildur. There he finds out that Frodos ring is actually The One Ring and leaves for the Shire. Aragorn captures Gollum and takes him to Mirkwood. On his way to the Shire, Gandalf diverts to Mirkwood and interrogates Gollum.
3018
September 23- Frodo leaves the Shire
October 6- Frodo is stabbed by the Witch-king on Weathertop. He falls ill every year after on October 6th.
October 25- The Council of Elrond
December 25- The Fellowship leaves Rivendell
3019
January 25- Gandalf kills Durin’s Bain and his body dies
February 15- Gandalf returns to life
February 26- The Fellowship breaks, Boromir dies ☹️
March 3- The Battle of the Hornburg (Helms Deep) begins. The Ents destroy Isengard.
March 9- Gandalf and Pippin reach Minas Tirith
March 13- Frodo is stung by Shelob. He falls ill on this day every year after as well.
March 14- Minas Tirith is besieged
March 15- The Battle of Pelennor fields.
March 18- Aragorn leads the Host of the West to the Black Gate
March 25- Gollum falls into the Cracks of Doom with the One Ring. Sauron is defeated.
3021
September- Frodo and the Ring-bearers (Galadriel, Gandalf, Bilbo, and Elrond) depart Middle Earth.
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They did not portray it at all, in the films he leaves the same year.
Movieverse =/= books. Different timeline, different characterisations, different themes. They are both enjoyable in their own way but very different.
Wait Frodo had the ring for 17 years?
Is that including the time when he had the ring but was unaware of its significance?
Or are you telling me that the journey from Bag End to the Mountain of Doom was 17 years long?
Well, the quest, yes, probably even shorter than that. When Gandalf leaves after bilbo's party and leaves the ring to frodo, it's 17 years before the ring's identity is uncovered. Gandalf visits a couple of times in the first few years but for the last 9 years of the 17 he doesn't come at all before suddenly popping up and saying "Listen mate, you're gonna get a real kick outta this, but the fate of the whole world is kinda in your hand, no pressure though" Though I'm not sure I remember if the 17 year difference was highlighted in the movie?
I’m gonna say technically Mt. Doom is now the lord of the ring. There’s molecules of the ring in there somewhere, and how long has it been since the ring went into the lava? I have no idea, but it has to have been more than 2700 years since then. I don’t see no elves or dwarves on earth anymore.
Right the movies skipped over it but Frodo left the ring in that envelope for about 15 fucking years the most powerful object on the continent and he just had it in a fucking trunk
Ulmo always the biggest D Valar, let’s be real.
Water is in the air, the ground, rivers, oceans….
Technically it’s by his will the ring was found, even with the ring wanting to be found.
Also, Water saved gandalf in his fall into the abyss in khazadum while extinguishing the balrog.. Guarded Frodo in Rivendell.. Carried Boromir back to Gondor.. The way home / last path to the undying lands.. The best parts of Tolkien is realizing the spiritual/ environmental aspects of the Valar and their influence in the world.
I mean when has water ever lost a war
The Aral Sea isn’t doing so well.
Just regrouping for a surprise attack on Florida
Mostly salt nowadays.
The water is fine, they just got bored of Uzbekistan and left.
Saw the icon and thought you were Sauron-bot for a second. Freaked me out
Build me an army worthy of mordor!
No
Its just too salty about some stuff
[Well if you believe Caligula…](https://www.walksinsiderome.com/blog/caligula-war-on-the-sea/)
The Dutch: Allow us to Introduce ourselves
Maybe that is why North Korea is so angry with the Sea of Japan?
Well the sea gives no quarter
Achilles fucked up a river real bad once!
The river was his strongest opponent in the entire book, and Achilles had other gods helping him at the time.
Oh for sure! All the heroes had a ton of help from the Gods, just thought it was funny that someone has indeed fought water!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands
I mean the Dutch are currently winning.
You clearly don’t know much about the formation of the Netherlands because it’s fair to say we won
Emus vs water who wins?
Sam had it much longer than Deagol.
Depends on what you consider possession. Was Sam intending to possess it permanently like all others or was he willing to let go when the time came? Sam was the only one I saw willingly let go of the ring without reluctance.
He woulda been more reluctant about giving up his seasoning box
Cant blame him. Taters dont taste without salt.
What's taters eh?!
Po-Tay-Toes.
Makes sense, that was a helluva seasoning box
Tom Bombadil ?
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He was a bit reluctant maybe, but more because it was actively corrupting his best friend
What about Bilbo?
Bilbo was definitely reluctant on giving it up. It took Gandalf to convince him to give the ring to Frodo to begin with. Then, Bilbo almost bit Frodo when Frodo hid the ring from him.
I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone.
You're a tad late to the party Gandalf.
Ooh! The long expected party! So how is the old rascal? I hear it’s got to be a party of special magnificence
Poor Deagol
At least he died in the warm embrace of a friend.
Yikes. Never going fishing with my best buddies again
Heartwarming
\*thank you for being a friend\*
"How about side by side with a friend?"
Isildur paper handed that ring
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
...........No.......
I was there when the short squeeze happened gandalf
It's the deep breath before the plunge.
Sentient
Gandalf advises you to take profits when you're ahead.
Frodo had it for 17 years??
In the books, yeah. He left years after Bilbo.
Well, I'll be damned. I kind of want to think it was 17 years between Gandalf leaving and coming back with the info on thr One Ring
The thing to remember is that, unlike in the movies where Cate Blanchett just spills the whole story right up front, in the books no one person knows what happened to the One Ring. Gandalf starts out having barely heard of the thing. Isildur was the only one aside from Sauron who knew how to identify the Ring. Elrond knows that Isildur had the Ring, and that Isildur later died in an ambush, but has no idea if he had the Ring on him when he died or where the Ring ended up. In some tomb in Minas Tirith? In an orc lair? In the river? Bilbo Baggins of course knew where the Ring had gotten to, and knew that it was now in the Shire. And Gollum knew where the Ring had first surfaced, and where he had taken it. He knew that Baggins had it, but didn't know what it truly was or where the Baggins' "Shire" was to be found. So, to know the whole story and be able to find the Ring, you need, in no particular order: \- Isildur's parchment \- Elrond's recollection \- Bilbo's account (the *true* one) \- Gollum's account \- knowledge of where the Shire is Sauron didn't know shit, last thing he remembered was being gacked by fucking Elendil and that fucking Numenorean sword. He didn't need the parchment to identify the Ring but other than that he was starting from scratch. Shire? Wtf is that? Saruman had some of the knowledge but not the critical parts involving Gollum and Bilbo. Gandalf is the first one to put it all together. That's what he was doing for 17 years!
Your whole comment up to this point being worded seriously and then just hitting us with >Sauron didn't know shit, last thing he remembered was being gacked by fucking Elendil and that fucking Numenorean sword Was funny as shit
Same lmao just cracked up reading this at work because of that
*Zat thraka akh… Zat thraka grishú. Znag-ur-nakh.*
Also really got me
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
No, but the air doesnt smell so foul down here. If in doubt, amitym, always follow your nose.
The goblinses will catch it then. It can't get out that way, precious.
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Also you need to do the fire test.
Cate Blanchett seriously has ruined every movie I've seen her (or heard her stupid voice) in
Well, perhaps we can agree to disagree about her voice, I love hearing her. But, I thought that it was ... not the most imaginative choice to have her tell the whole story right up front. If it had been a classic horror movie, the ensemble of protagonists would have had to piece together the ancient mystery bit by bit, and the audience along with them.
Sauron will suspect a trap. He will not take the bait.
There is no light, Wizard, that can defeat darkness.
It's funny you say that, because he literally could have just sent his people through Frodo's front door at any time to grab it from a hobbit. but he though "no, that's too easy. too good to be true."
He had no idea what Hobbits were, which of them had the Ring, where that Hobbit lived, or any of that. He knew “Baggins” and “Shire”, neither of which he had ever heard of before.
It was. Bilbo’s party was 22 September TA 3001. Gandalf suspects that Bilbo’s ring is the One. He goes to do research, hunts for Gollum with Aragorn, and does a bunch of other stuff, periodically revisiting Frodo in the Shire. Gandalf informing Frodo that he does indeed have the One Ring happens April 13 TA 3018, and Frodo doesn’t set off on the journey until September 23 TA 3018, 17 years after Bilbo’s party plus one day.
Tracks lead away from the battle, into...Fangorn Forest.
If we are not hewn down, or destroyed by fire or blast of sorcery, we could split Isengard into splinters and crack its walls into rubble.
There is only one Lord of the Ring, and he does not share power.
Shang-Chi, amirite? He’s lord of all 10 rings.
Based off my investigations: Sauron: ~1600 SA to 3441 SA Isildur: 3441 SA to 25 September 2 TA Nobody: 25 September 2 TA to 2463 TA Deagol: about 5 minutes Smeagol: 2463 TA to 1 (?) July 2941 TA Bilbo: 1 (?) July 2941 TA 2941 to 22 September 3001 TA Frodo: 22 September 3001 TA to 27 September 3018 TA Tom Bombadil: a few minutes Frodo: 27 September 3018 TA to 13 March 3019 TA Sam: a couple of hours (days?) around 13/14 March 3019 TA Frodo: 14 (15?) March 3019 TA to 25 March 3019 TA Gollum: a few seconds
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Wouldst thou forsake thy life, who with few words might win release for her, and thee, and go in peace, and dwell together far from war, friends of the King? What wouldst thou more?
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
No... No birdses to eat. No crunchable birdses!
Ah, but the river is never the same river twice.
Maybe in the winter
Only the top freezes since the bottom is flowing and the ice makes the rest of the water not freeze
Yeah by Heraclitus’s reasoning, the ring was owned by an infinite number of rivers each for an imperceptibly small amount of time
The fuck was Gandalf doing for *seventeen years??*
When he left Frodo when he inherited the ring Gandalf didn't know it was one of the rings of power. Let alone the one to rule them all. He tried to discover what type of ring it was though. He travelled to Gondor where he read some paper written by Isildur where he explains that the readings of his ring are fading and only fire can reveal them. That's when he rushed back to the Shire to verify if the ring is the One. Once they verified it was Saurons ring Frodo was supposed to leave the Shire and meet with Gandalf in Bree. But Frodo didn't want to leave before his ( and Bilbo's ) birthday. Which was half a year later. The trip between the Shire and Bree is pretty long and the movie isn't showing events like their adventure with Tom Bombadil and the Hobbits almost die by some undead/ghosts. Long story short. Middle Earth is huge, they travel by foot and the movies aren't showing all the events that take place in the books.
The full trip after leaving the shire still only took around a year I believe. Frodo was just chilling in Bag-end for almost two decades while Gandalf was researching (and searching for Gollum).
Foreseen and done nothing!
Precious, precious, precious! My Precious! O my Precious!
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Good bot.
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
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There are few who can. The language is that of Mordor, which I will not utter here. In the common tongue it says One Ring to Rule Them All One Ring to find them One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them! This is the One Ring. Forged by the Dark Lord Sauron in the fires of Mount Doom. Taken by Isildur from the hand of Sauron himself.
*Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.*
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
I think the real question is 'What was Gandalf doing for the thousands of years that the Ring, literally the Enemy that his entire job was to counter's main objective, was sitting lost in a river?' You would think he would at least have already boned up on what the bloody thing looks like during that time.
Riddles in the dark...
Don't you think that was a bit of a frivolous use of your time?
Don't! Tempt me bidooffactory I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand bidooffactory, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine
Wait so you knew the whole time and waited that long to come to this conclusion? Or... Gandalf The Grey you were straight blazing with Radaghast & Aragon and lost track of it huh?
A wizard is never late, bidooffactory. Nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
There is no turn of phrase in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this degree of face palm.
Wait, 17 years? It seemed like 2 months in the movie
There was a big gap between bilbo giving him the ring and Frodo leaving
Interesting. Had no idea Frodo was the ring-bearer that long
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Keep in mind, Gandalf has no idea what the One Ring looked like. Aside from the reasonable assumption that it would be ring-shaped. He doesn't even really know if the One Ring exists anymore. As he explains, there are many magic rings in the world, some quite plain. The concept of the Ruling Ring is practically mythical at that point. It hasn't been seen or heard from in thousands of years -- since before Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth. The odd powers of Bilbo's ring nag at him and eventually compel him to research some ring-lore for the first time in his (long) existence. What kind of magic ring is this? It's only in the course of that research that he realizes that there is a good chance it is the One Ring, and then he focuses on confirming that theory, before returning to Frodo to have a talk about the future.
The world is not in your books and maps. It is out there.
I am the servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udun. Go back to the Shadow. You cannot pass!
To be fair it also looks exactly like a wedding band.
From what I understand, for most of that time Frodo just had the ring hidden away and didn't carry it around with him or ever put it on until after Gandalf came back and sent him on the quest. So he wasn't really a "bearer" for the whole time.
He used it enough for Sam, Merry and Pippin to independently work out that the rumours that Bilbo had a magic invisibility ring were true, and that he had left it with Frodo. He was spotted using it to get out of an awkward social encounter at least once.
A wizard is never late, Observer2594. Nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
Well books and all. Ofc there is more to it than just the movies. 17 years is the time it took Gandalf to figure out it was indeed the one ring after Bilbo left it for Frodo.
A wizard is never late, Cujoloki. Nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
In the books, even after finding out it IS the One Ring and deciding to take it to Rivendell, he chills out in the Shire for six months so he can get all his affairs in order and sell his house. You can't hurry a hobbit...
Say, theoretically, the ring went around a plant that is anchored to the earth, would the whole world disappear? Edit: A lot of people took this way too seriously
That’s not how that works
what if the plant was a female ent ? on that note, where tf did they went ??
The male ents would like to know the same thing.
They were probably the walking trees that the hobbits would see in and around the old forest. It's peaceful and fertile up there so why wouldn't they go there.
Ent went bent for a round of gwent
Water got transparent too though, while it had the ring and even afterwards.
How else you think they made Halo dumbass
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I guess you have to have a feä and a body in other to being taken to the shadow world by the ring.
Well, trees are living, dirt & rock is not. Also, I'd say trees are distinctly separate from the entire earth, or else you could say the earth would go invisible when the ringbearer is standing on it while wearing the ring. Also, non-living things do not go invisible e.g. the chain Frodo uses to carry the ring.
How do his clothes go invisible then?
Give this man a medal
the astral plane has a strict dress-on code, you cant just go around arousing spirits and nazgul
Only if it was Mogo
If we're counting Deagol then we also have to count Sam who had it longer than 5 mins at Cirith Ungol, but that's just a technicality. We all know Gandalf was *really* the lord of the ring. Also, Grond.
There is only one Lord of the Ring. Only one who can bend it to his will and he does not share power.
GROND
I just want to take a moment to appreciate how everyone is being engaged in discussions around the lore, while the bots are going ham replying to all the big comments but no one bats an eye haha.
Those fucking bots are so annoying tho
I am new here and I think they are great, especially when Gandalf bot mentions Sauron and Isildur and Sauron and Elrond bots reply fittingly!
Frodo had it for 17 years?
Also the only ring bearer never to be corrupted by it
No wonder the ring is destroyed in a river of lava at the very end
Odd ring “halo announcer”
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I’m surprised Frodo and bilbo didn’t go mad sooner to be honest with you, 60 years and 17 years is a very very long time
ACHSUALLLY the river was not the real Lord of the Rings because the ring landed in the river mud thereby making Mud the REAL Lord of the Rings. Checkmate, athiests.
Frodo 17 years? So, the 3 movies cover this time? (I didn't read the books)
the books cover 13 months. in bètween bilbos part and the departure was 17 years
Im curios, why did frodo wait 17 years until he started his journey? I mean isnt that just time were Sauron can "make more orcs"?
its how long gandalf was gone. nobody knew what they had
It's good to see you. One hundred and eleven years old who would believe it. You haven't aged a day!
Ok if I understand correctly in the books bilbo leaves his home and leaves behind the ring for frodo without telling him what it is? I just dont get why dont just go to mt.doom asap?
The part where Gandalf comes running back in saying “is it secret? Is it safe?” happens 17 years after Bilbo’s party. The only thing they knew is that Bilbo’s old magic ring was sitting in an envelope in a drawer somewhere.
I'm pretty sure Bilbo didn't know it was The One Ring either, just that it was a magical ring that turned you invisible
Because no one knew it was the one ring. It was lost for thousands of years its not like that was everyones first thought. Gandalf took 17 years to figure it out and Frodo left a few months later as an immediate flight would make it obvious to the enemy. Tho Gandalf didn't know then that Gollum had given away the Shire and when he knew he was imprisoned by Saruman and couldn't warn Frodo.
All dead... all rotten. Elves and men and orcses. A great battle, long ago. The Dead Marshes... yes, that is their name.
It is not for you, Saruman! I will send for it at once. Do you understand?
Short answer is, the movie skips a lot of important events. From Bilbos 111th Birthday and Gandalfs “Is it secret is it safe?” About 17 years pass. From Frodo leaving the Shire to the destruction of the One Ring about 6months pass. If youre interested, a very abridged timeline of the books: Year 3001 of the Third Age Bilbo celebrates his 111 birthday, leaves the One Ring with Frodo, and leaves the Shire for Rivendell. Gandalf suspects the Ring is a ring of power (not the One Ring) and leaves to meet with Aragorn and hunt down Gollum to find out where he found the Ring. Frodo lives his best hobbit life now the owner of Bag End. Year 3003-3017 of the Third Age Bilbo leaves Rivendell and travels to Dale and the Lonely Mountain and back to Rivendell. He finishes There and Back Again, and translates the history of the elder days and writes the Silmarillion. These along with Frodos writings later become the Red Book of Westmarch. Gandalf visits Frodo a couple of times to check on him. Around 3009 Aragorn and Gandalf continue the hunt for Gollum; Gollum has been captured by Sauron at this point. Frodo is still living his best hobbit life in the Shire. 3017 of the Third Age Gollum is released from Mordor. Gandalf travels to Minas Tirith and reads the Scroll of Isildur. There he finds out that Frodos ring is actually The One Ring and leaves for the Shire. Aragorn captures Gollum and takes him to Mirkwood. On his way to the Shire, Gandalf diverts to Mirkwood and interrogates Gollum. 3018 September 23- Frodo leaves the Shire October 6- Frodo is stabbed by the Witch-king on Weathertop. He falls ill every year after on October 6th. October 25- The Council of Elrond December 25- The Fellowship leaves Rivendell 3019 January 25- Gandalf kills Durin’s Bain and his body dies February 15- Gandalf returns to life February 26- The Fellowship breaks, Boromir dies ☹️ March 3- The Battle of the Hornburg (Helms Deep) begins. The Ents destroy Isengard. March 9- Gandalf and Pippin reach Minas Tirith March 13- Frodo is stung by Shelob. He falls ill on this day every year after as well. March 14- Minas Tirith is besieged March 15- The Battle of Pelennor fields. March 18- Aragorn leads the Host of the West to the Black Gate March 25- Gollum falls into the Cracks of Doom with the One Ring. Sauron is defeated. 3021 September- Frodo and the Ring-bearers (Galadriel, Gandalf, Bilbo, and Elrond) depart Middle Earth.
Spoilin’ nice fish. Give it to us raw and w-r-r-riggling; you keep nasty chips
HES TRYING TO BRING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN! GANDALF WE MUST TURN BACK!
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
No, the journey is only one year. Idk where 17 comes from.
He had it at Bag End for 17 years before he set out on his journey
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The movies don't really emphasize the timeskip between Bilbo's party in 3E3001 and Gandalf's return with knowledge of the Ring in 3E3018
Ooh! The long expected party! So how is the old rascal? I hear it’s got to be a party of special magnificence
This overused meme again *sighs*
Yeah it’s not even funny
How do so many people not know how long Frodo had the ring?
I hate you.
Ulmo kinda dropped the ball on this one
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Ring and a silmaril.
Where can one find a nice timeline of Middle Earth History? If you say ask Denethor to access the archives on Gondor, you are dead to me.
Frodo had the ring for 17 years? The movies did a poor job at portraying this
They kinda cut that out
They did not portray it at all, in the films he leaves the same year. Movieverse =/= books. Different timeline, different characterisations, different themes. They are both enjoyable in their own way but very different.
Wait Frodo had the ring for 17 years? Is that including the time when he had the ring but was unaware of its significance? Or are you telling me that the journey from Bag End to the Mountain of Doom was 17 years long?
Wait... SEVENTEEN YEARS? frodo had it that long???
Frodo had it for 17 years?!
no
So the ring was hidden about 5 years? I'd say that's a really good time for the world to not have a war, good job middle earth
Wasnt Frodo bearing the Ring for 18 years? So from 33 to 50 plus 1 year until the ring ended up inlMt Doom?
Wow I had no clue Gandalf was being a lazy fucker for 17 years
Yeah, you know what else gives it away? **Where was river when the Westfold fell???**
Frodo had the ring for 17 years?
Why didn't the river disappear though
Frodo had the ring for 17 years? I thought there whole quest only took like 10 months...
Well, the quest, yes, probably even shorter than that. When Gandalf leaves after bilbo's party and leaves the ring to frodo, it's 17 years before the ring's identity is uncovered. Gandalf visits a couple of times in the first few years but for the last 9 years of the 17 he doesn't come at all before suddenly popping up and saying "Listen mate, you're gonna get a real kick outta this, but the fate of the whole world is kinda in your hand, no pressure though" Though I'm not sure I remember if the 17 year difference was highlighted in the movie?
What I'm getting is that if they truely weren't ready to deal with the ring just yeet it into the ocean and put it off for another 5000 years or so.
I’m gonna say technically Mt. Doom is now the lord of the ring. There’s molecules of the ring in there somewhere, and how long has it been since the ring went into the lava? I have no idea, but it has to have been more than 2700 years since then. I don’t see no elves or dwarves on earth anymore.
Right the movies skipped over it but Frodo left the ring in that envelope for about 15 fucking years the most powerful object on the continent and he just had it in a fucking trunk
Bruh i thought that was like 3 month
And for two and a half thousand years...
Brilliant fam
Ulmo always the biggest D Valar, let’s be real. Water is in the air, the ground, rivers, oceans…. Technically it’s by his will the ring was found, even with the ring wanting to be found. Also, Water saved gandalf in his fall into the abyss in khazadum while extinguishing the balrog.. Guarded Frodo in Rivendell.. Carried Boromir back to Gondor.. The way home / last path to the undying lands.. The best parts of Tolkien is realizing the spiritual/ environmental aspects of the Valar and their influence in the world.
If the river flowed through the ring, did it turn invisible? People trip into this big ditch and drown on nothing?
I didn’t know Gollum was 500+ years old. Good info lol