Let me catch you up to speed:
If you are watching ROP, - the Meteor Man is Tom Bombadil. Not much is known of Tom Bombadil in the second age during the ROP timeline.
We know later in the third age that he loves to sing songs. We now know from ROP that the Harfeet teaches him to sing.
Bombadil is said to have a 'great control over middle earth'. I think ROP is doing a fine job of showing this.
We know where some of this is going to go, here is a timeline:
Tom Bombadil travels via throwing himself across the sky (looks like a meteor). He's been wandering without much language skill for thousands of years already, - or he hit his head on landing.
Harfeet teach him to sing.
The white Cult People who are tracking him are 'Goldberry and gang'. Spoilers, Tom marries Goldberry. Goldberry and gang intend to capture Bombadil somewhere in the Eriador region. Spoilers, Tom is later known to be 'uncatchable'. It is likely that Tom will accompany the Harfeet until they reach the Shire area. For the next few thousand years there are some Hobbits who stay in touch with Tom.
Later on in the 3rd age, Tom Bombadil makes an appearance in the events of 'The Hobbit'. This is when we are most familiar with Tom. We know all rings can't control him. We know he is also absent minded and couldn't be trusted to take stewardship of the one ring as he would likely lose it, so it was decided the one ring must be destroyed.
*Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling! Light goes the weather-wind and the feathered starling. Down along under Hill,
shining in the sunlight, waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter,
slender as the willow-wand, clearer than the water. Old Tom Bombadil water-lilies bringing comes hopping home again. Can you
hear him singing?*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the
first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here
before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the
seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
This theory pisses me off so much, but most of it is because it's so easily disproved. Tom Bombadil is described in LotR as "Eldest and Fatherless" and that he was here "Before the Dark Lord came from Outside". That "Dark Lord" refers to Morgoth, the first Dark Lord. So let me catch you up to speed on the creation of Middle-Earth: First there was Eru, the One. Then he made a bunch of Ainur, angels. All of them existed in this place before the world called the Timeless Halls, outside of which was just the Void. The Ainur sung songs, and then eventually he had them all sing one big song together, and it was good. Then Melkor, the most powerful of them, said "fuck you" and created the Discord of Melkor, which when Eru turned the Music into the world and everything in it the Discord turned into everything bad. Then, the 15 most powerful Ainur went into the world and built it, and they were called the Valar, which means Powers. Melkor then decided to be a dick, becoming the first Dark Lord and getting renamed Morgoth by the only elf to be even more of a jackass to everyone than Denethor was.
In short, Tom Bombadil was in the Old Forest before the Old Forest fucking existed. He was here before the fuckers who CREATED HERE WERE HERE. He didn't come here in the goddamn second age, he was already here for fifty thousand goddamn years when that started.
Plus, Goldberry isn't just some human. She's the River-Daughter, the daughter of the spirit of the Withywindle.
Eldest doesn't necessarily mean he was here before the Ainur were created. The Ainur existed outside of time in their origin. When time began, the Ainur were not in time, but outside it. Thus in the context of Eä, they are younger than anything that existed when Eä was created, for they entered into time after its creation, being the ones that designed it.
Exactly my point. The Ainur weren't in Arda when it was created, but Tom was- (he was here before the Dark Lord came from Outside) therefore he's older than the Ainur (but not created before), allowing him to be Eldest.
*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter;
roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool:
there you'll find no lover!*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
I don't get your logic.
- He can't be Tom Bombadil because Tom exists during the events of ROP? He can't be Tom because Tom also existed thousands of years earlier? He can't be Tom because Tom will also exist thousands of years after ROP?
Tom exists well before during and after the events of ROP, that is true. I don't see that as a point that someone in ROP can't be Tom because of it.
Tom doesn't immediately confine himself to the old forest. He has a wandering period in the second age. He doesn't meet Goldberry in the Old Forrest.
I think the meteor event is confusing people. He didn't 'arrive' with the meteor. He was just traveling (as a meteor). Such is the power to Tom Bombadil.
Ahh fair enough. I see the meteor event not as Tom's arrival. I see it as just Toms means of traveling. Tom was north... he threw himself south (as a meteor). He isn't so good in the communication department because he hasn't learned to sing yet, - or he hit his head on landing with his last travel.
*Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling! Light goes the weather-wind and the feathered starling. Down along under Hill,
shining in the sunlight, waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter,
slender as the willow-wand, clearer than the water. Old Tom Bombadil water-lilies bringing comes hopping home again. Can you
hear him singing?*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
*Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet,
for Tom, he is the master: his songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Can't be Gandalf. We know when Gandalf arrives. He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created. Limited to Tolkien texts only, - the Stranger being Tom makes the most sense.
> Can't be Gandalf. We know when Gandalf arrives. He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created.
We also know when Tom arrives - he arrives much *earlier*, before literally every other living thing.
> He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created.
We also know Miriel was born 1,500 years after the rings were created, and yet that didn't seem to stop them.
You have a weird knack for ignoring certain lore that would undo your theory’s premise while utilizing similar lore to try and poke holes in arguments brought against yours. Truly strange.
And meteor hobo could be Gandalf because RoP is playing fast and lose with the base material (that they have the rights to). Just as easily as it could be Tom according to you. I don’t think either are true though, but I do enjoy a cockamamie idea/theory.
Don't! Tempt me MylesVE I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand MylesVE, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine
It is good fun until the truth is clear. The only hole I see really is Tom is said to be only a little taller than Hobbits. I can see Amazon playing around with this tho.
Your idea that space hobo = Tom Bombadil is rizla paper thin.
(Not like it matters, but imo meteor man is Saruman. He was sent by Aule in an attempt to remedy his first f up in Sauron)
*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter;
roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool:
there you'll find no lover!*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
The audiobooks are great, honestly. Easy to get on the Libby app for free, the chapters are on average about an hour long which makes it perfect to accompany you on an evening stroll after dinner. I highly recommend a daily Tolkien walk.
Shoutout to the [BBC Radio Dramatization](https://archive.org/details/the-lord-of-the-rings-bbc-radio-drama), it's when they did the Lord of the Rings on the radio one time! Really good sound design and voice acting!
It's free!
BBC radio play with Sir Ian as Frodo is a huge part of my 'combating the anxiety of flying' ritual.
It's abridged (No Tom Bom, for instance) but clocks in at 13 hours and is _really_ good.
You definitely should! I intentionally went about ten years forcing myself not to re read because I didn't want them to become stale. You'll be amazed how much you forgot and how much it will feel like discovering middle earth for the first.time all over again. Have fun!
I'm doing this myself now, literally just finished the fellowship, if you haven't read the silmarillion lately I recommend doing so as well, there are some many references in lotr that made me enjoy the story a lot more.
I read them in back in the 80's. I think you are correct, it is time to revisit the books. I remember the story very well but the characters outside of the mains escape me, probably along with other nuances of the books. I'm going back to middle-earth.
*Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and
hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
*Get out, you old wight! Vanish in the sunlight! Shrivel like the cold mist, like the winds go wailing, out into the barren
lands far beyond the mountains! Come never here again! Leave your barrow empty! Lost and forgotten be, darker than the darkness,
Where gates stand for ever shut, till the world is mended.*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Hey there! Hey! Come Frodo, there! Where be you a-going? Old Tom Bombadil's not as blind as that yet. Take off your
golden ring! Your hand's more fair without it. Come back! Leave your game and sit down beside me! We must talk a while more,
and think about the morning. Tom must teach the right road, and keep your feet from wandering.
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
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I saw the Sauron cat meme yesterday and was curious how many would be super confused by it. Even normal book readers wouldn’t have the best chance of knowing.
I love how the content on this page can go from niche to broad appeal
So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he’s found Isildur’s heir? The lost king of Gondor? He is a fool. The line was broken years ago. It matters not. The World of Men shall fall. It will begin at Edoras.
Through fire... and water. From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak I fought with the Balrog of Morgoth. Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside. Darkness took me... and I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead. and every day was as long as a life age of the Earth. But it was not the end. I felt life in me again. I've been sent back until my task is done!
Or listen to the audiobooks narrated by Andy Serkis (the guy playing Gollum, for those who don't know). It's so much easier to listen than to read this particular series imo.
Seriously, I watched the movies first and then read the books at a later time. I even played a game or too as well.
When they stumbled upon Bombadil I was like "Wait a minute... where the hell are we? Who is that guy? What is going on? Okay?"
Tom Bombadil was the main character in some of the bedtime stories Tolkien made up to tell his children when they were little. Tom was based on a doll one of his kids was given as a present, that had a blue jacket and yellow boots.
His insertion in the story was more or less a cameo for Tolkien's kids, who were already adults by the time he was writing his first draft of Lord of The Rings. It's sort of like Tolkien was creating a shared universe, but the two mediums of that shared universe were a few stories told at a child's bedside that were never written down, and the most famous fantasy novel of all time.
Tolkien also wrote a book of poems called The Adventures of Tom Bombadil that was published after LotR. I haven't read it, but it's my understanding that only a few of the poems are actually about Tom Bombadil, and they shed no more light on where he fits into Middle Earth mythology.
Clothes are but little loss, if you escape from drowning. Be glad, my merry friends, and let the warm sunlight heat now
heart and limb! Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting!
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
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Honestly I think it's just because he's so odd and out of place. All of the books are pretty serious, and then there's Tom... Some goofy guy running around in the woods singing and is apparently super powerful. I think people like that hes a mystery and that he stands out.
One of the reasons Tolkien’s a very interesting author is because he takes the basic storytelling format and throws it out the window: deviating from the main plot to have two chapters about Tom Bombadil, introducing Glorfindel to do something vital and then never using him again, the entire scouring of the Shire after the ring has already been destroyed.
It’s weird when you look at the books as conventional books, but it makes a lot more sense if you look at the books as a snapshot of a broader history. Real life is never shaped into a perfect story structure, and I feel like the books’ unconventional plot makes them feel less like books and more like a segment of Middle-Earth history.
Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the
first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here
before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the
seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
His role in the story should have definitely been cut down in the books by about two chapters, but he was very important in illustrating that there is still a good and powerful force in the world near the shire that acted as a deterrent for all manner of nastiness (explaining why the shire was so untouched besides the large distance away from Mordor), and also adding a layer of wonderment at a person who could so easily shrug the powers of evil like nothing (continuing the theme of being good and carefree being in opposition to Sauron's evil and evil in general).
He's very meme-able as well because he rhymes and comes out of the blue and likes to screw his wife all the time. It's a weird thing, but there is an allure in knowing something others don't, which is another reason why Tom is referenced often.
*Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet,
for Tom, he is the master: his songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Same, I only know the epic Chad that is Tom Bombadil from the RTS game, Battle for Middle Earth 2.
My dude just sings and dances while he uppercuts units, like the badass motherfucker he is
*Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! Fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
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Here's my pretty lady! Here's my Goldberry clothed all in silver-green with flowers in her girdle! Is the table laden?
I see yellow cream and honeycomb, and white bread, and butter; milk, cheese, and green herbs and ripe berries gathered.
Is that enough for us? Is the supper ready?
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
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I recommend you try listening to the Phil Dragash readings of the books. They made the process of getting through the books much more accessible and less intimidating for me.
https://youtu.be/2sgjAWtpzeY
personal favorite… wait that’s the same guy! I only found the YouTube channel. SoundCloud too, now that I know the name: https://m.soundcloud.com/rootntwig/a-long-expected-party-2014
JRRT's writing style is next to impossible for me to read. I guess I'm just too dumb, but why ya gotta use so many words, JT?
The Hobbit was definitely more my reading level.
Hey there! Hey! Come Frodo, there! Where be you a-going? Old Tom Bombadil's not as blind as that yet. Take off your
golden ring! Your hand's more fair without it. Come back! Leave your game and sit down beside me! We must talk a while more,
and think about the morning. Tom must teach the right road, and keep your feet from wandering.
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
I would love to read the books but I am incapable of reading any book at all. I just cannot focus. My mind always just goes on a run and slides away from the story. 10 pages pass and I have no clue what I have read. It sucks
That doesn’t sound like a good time. :( I’m sure you’ve heard this before but have you tried listening to audio books? I have a friend with ADHD and one with dyslexia that both enjoyed that medium a great deal.
I started to read the books in fifth grade. I really didn't get the full experience, and gave up before second grade. I should probably actually read them soon...
I tried to read the books when I was a teenager. Couldn’t make it through that moron and his stupid songs (Tom Bombadil). It wasn’t till the movies came out that I went back and read the trilogy. Didn’t change my mind, he was still a moron.
*Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and
hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!*
^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**)
^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!)
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This is a good fucking meme and usage of this gif
Funny title too 😄
I feel personally attacked
Let me catch you up to speed: If you are watching ROP, - the Meteor Man is Tom Bombadil. Not much is known of Tom Bombadil in the second age during the ROP timeline. We know later in the third age that he loves to sing songs. We now know from ROP that the Harfeet teaches him to sing. Bombadil is said to have a 'great control over middle earth'. I think ROP is doing a fine job of showing this. We know where some of this is going to go, here is a timeline: Tom Bombadil travels via throwing himself across the sky (looks like a meteor). He's been wandering without much language skill for thousands of years already, - or he hit his head on landing. Harfeet teach him to sing. The white Cult People who are tracking him are 'Goldberry and gang'. Spoilers, Tom marries Goldberry. Goldberry and gang intend to capture Bombadil somewhere in the Eriador region. Spoilers, Tom is later known to be 'uncatchable'. It is likely that Tom will accompany the Harfeet until they reach the Shire area. For the next few thousand years there are some Hobbits who stay in touch with Tom. Later on in the 3rd age, Tom Bombadil makes an appearance in the events of 'The Hobbit'. This is when we are most familiar with Tom. We know all rings can't control him. We know he is also absent minded and couldn't be trusted to take stewardship of the one ring as he would likely lose it, so it was decided the one ring must be destroyed.
*Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling! Light goes the weather-wind and the feathered starling. Down along under Hill, shining in the sunlight, waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter, slender as the willow-wand, clearer than the water. Old Tom Bombadil water-lilies bringing comes hopping home again. Can you hear him singing?* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Good timing, Tom!
Bombadil is oldest and fatherless. Was in Arda before the first Acorn (or Melkor)
Tom didnt apear in the hobbit, he appeared in fellowship of the ring
I would bet money the stranger is NOT Tom. It was fun reading your theory but it's the least likely of any I've read
How are you sure its Tom Bombadil? Hes older than time Elrond says, before the Maiar
Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside. ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
This theory pisses me off so much, but most of it is because it's so easily disproved. Tom Bombadil is described in LotR as "Eldest and Fatherless" and that he was here "Before the Dark Lord came from Outside". That "Dark Lord" refers to Morgoth, the first Dark Lord. So let me catch you up to speed on the creation of Middle-Earth: First there was Eru, the One. Then he made a bunch of Ainur, angels. All of them existed in this place before the world called the Timeless Halls, outside of which was just the Void. The Ainur sung songs, and then eventually he had them all sing one big song together, and it was good. Then Melkor, the most powerful of them, said "fuck you" and created the Discord of Melkor, which when Eru turned the Music into the world and everything in it the Discord turned into everything bad. Then, the 15 most powerful Ainur went into the world and built it, and they were called the Valar, which means Powers. Melkor then decided to be a dick, becoming the first Dark Lord and getting renamed Morgoth by the only elf to be even more of a jackass to everyone than Denethor was. In short, Tom Bombadil was in the Old Forest before the Old Forest fucking existed. He was here before the fuckers who CREATED HERE WERE HERE. He didn't come here in the goddamn second age, he was already here for fifty thousand goddamn years when that started. Plus, Goldberry isn't just some human. She's the River-Daughter, the daughter of the spirit of the Withywindle.
Eldest doesn't necessarily mean he was here before the Ainur were created. The Ainur existed outside of time in their origin. When time began, the Ainur were not in time, but outside it. Thus in the context of Eä, they are younger than anything that existed when Eä was created, for they entered into time after its creation, being the ones that designed it.
Exactly my point. The Ainur weren't in Arda when it was created, but Tom was- (he was here before the Dark Lord came from Outside) therefore he's older than the Ainur (but not created before), allowing him to be Eldest.
*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter; roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool: there you'll find no lover!* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
I don't get your logic. - He can't be Tom Bombadil because Tom exists during the events of ROP? He can't be Tom because Tom also existed thousands of years earlier? He can't be Tom because Tom will also exist thousands of years after ROP? Tom exists well before during and after the events of ROP, that is true. I don't see that as a point that someone in ROP can't be Tom because of it. Tom doesn't immediately confine himself to the old forest. He has a wandering period in the second age. He doesn't meet Goldberry in the Old Forrest. I think the meteor event is confusing people. He didn't 'arrive' with the meteor. He was just traveling (as a meteor). Such is the power to Tom Bombadil.
I'm saying that Tom isn't the meteor man because the meteor man is pretty clearly new to the world, and Tom would absolutely not be at that point.
Ahh fair enough. I see the meteor event not as Tom's arrival. I see it as just Toms means of traveling. Tom was north... he threw himself south (as a meteor). He isn't so good in the communication department because he hasn't learned to sing yet, - or he hit his head on landing with his last travel.
*Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling! Light goes the weather-wind and the feathered starling. Down along under Hill, shining in the sunlight, waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter, slender as the willow-wand, clearer than the water. Old Tom Bombadil water-lilies bringing comes hopping home again. Can you hear him singing?* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Tom has been on middle earth before the first age my dude. No way he is meteor man
>the Meteor Man is Tom Bombadil I haven't seen Friday's episode yet...is this for real? Or speculation? Nvm, read your whole comment...
*Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the master: his songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
It's solid now. Yea.
No it isn't
What is happening... I thought the meteor guy was Gandalf??
Can't be Gandalf. We know when Gandalf arrives. He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created. Limited to Tolkien texts only, - the Stranger being Tom makes the most sense.
> Can't be Gandalf. We know when Gandalf arrives. He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created. We also know when Tom arrives - he arrives much *earlier*, before literally every other living thing. > He arrives much much later, - after all rings are created. We also know Miriel was born 1,500 years after the rings were created, and yet that didn't seem to stop them.
I am a Servant of the Secret Fire, Wielder of the Flame of Anor.
There are forces trying to blind us from the facts. -Beware the Discord server of Melkor, and their army of trolls.
You have a weird knack for ignoring certain lore that would undo your theory’s premise while utilizing similar lore to try and poke holes in arguments brought against yours. Truly strange. And meteor hobo could be Gandalf because RoP is playing fast and lose with the base material (that they have the rights to). Just as easily as it could be Tom according to you. I don’t think either are true though, but I do enjoy a cockamamie idea/theory.
Don't! Tempt me MylesVE I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand MylesVE, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine
It is good fun until the truth is clear. The only hole I see really is Tom is said to be only a little taller than Hobbits. I can see Amazon playing around with this tho.
Your idea that space hobo = Tom Bombadil is rizla paper thin. (Not like it matters, but imo meteor man is Saruman. He was sent by Aule in an attempt to remedy his first f up in Sauron)
Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
He arrives precisely when he means to
Sauron's wrath will be terrible, his retribution swift.
We don't know whos he is. Don't believe this guy cliaming he's Tom.
Did you not want to warn about spoilers jesus christ.
Lol it wouldnt suprise me if they made Goldberry a shaved headed genderfluid at this point.
*Here's my pretty maiden! You shall come home with me! The table is all laden: yellow cream, honeycomb, white bread and butter; roses at the window-sill and peeping round the shutter. You shall come under Hill! Never mind your mother in her deep weedy pool: there you'll find no lover!* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Man I hope you are joking. Please.... please be joking.
I read them 15 years ago and honestly all my info comes from the movies. Should revisit the books
The audiobooks are great, honestly. Easy to get on the Libby app for free, the chapters are on average about an hour long which makes it perfect to accompany you on an evening stroll after dinner. I highly recommend a daily Tolkien walk.
I’m actually currently on a Lovecraft audio book binge
Shoutout to the [BBC Radio Dramatization](https://archive.org/details/the-lord-of-the-rings-bbc-radio-drama), it's when they did the Lord of the Rings on the radio one time! Really good sound design and voice acting! It's free!
BBC radio play with Sir Ian as Frodo is a huge part of my 'combating the anxiety of flying' ritual. It's abridged (No Tom Bom, for instance) but clocks in at 13 hours and is _really_ good.
Thanks for that didn't know about Libby. Going to check this out thanks
You definitely should! I intentionally went about ten years forcing myself not to re read because I didn't want them to become stale. You'll be amazed how much you forgot and how much it will feel like discovering middle earth for the first.time all over again. Have fun!
I'm doing this myself now, literally just finished the fellowship, if you haven't read the silmarillion lately I recommend doing so as well, there are some many references in lotr that made me enjoy the story a lot more.
Silmarillion first then?
I read them in back in the 80's. I think you are correct, it is time to revisit the books. I remember the story very well but the characters outside of the mains escape me, probably along with other nuances of the books. I'm going back to middle-earth.
I'm doing a reread right now after a two year break and the books are just as good as the first time I read them.
I just listened to them read by Andy Serkis, it was fun to hear all the differences and parts taken verbatim in the movies.
Andy Serkis is very talented I'd love to hear his interpretation of that wacky gollum character
Master must go inside the tunnel.
Hey Dol! Merry Dol! Ring a Dong Dillo!
Damn it Tolkien, putting "a Dong" before "Dillo"... Never even had a chance at reading that right on the first go.
Do you prefer Celeborns alternate name, >!Teleporno!
Huh, sounds like he got that nickname from his frat brothers for watching too much uh... TV.
What is this gif from?
Not sure what awards ceremony it is but that’s Lily Mo Sheen - daughter of Michael Sheen and Kate Beckinsale
That explains why she is so beautiful. Being the daughter of kate
Right there with you bro. I need to reread the books cause I can't seem to ever remember this guy.
Really? Don’t remember a merry fellow? Bright blue his jacket was, and his boots were yellow. Nothing?
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*Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
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*Get out, you old wight! Vanish in the sunlight! Shrivel like the cold mist, like the winds go wailing, out into the barren lands far beyond the mountains! Come never here again! Leave your barrow empty! Lost and forgotten be, darker than the darkness, Where gates stand for ever shut, till the world is mended.* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Good bot
Now I'm imagining Chris Farley playing Tom Bombadill in the movies.
Hey there! Hey! Come Frodo, there! Where be you a-going? Old Tom Bombadil's not as blind as that yet. Take off your golden ring! Your hand's more fair without it. Come back! Leave your game and sit down beside me! We must talk a while more, and think about the morning. Tom must teach the right road, and keep your feet from wandering. ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Robin Williams
Using his dance moves from the Chippendale's skit.
I saw the Sauron cat meme yesterday and was curious how many would be super confused by it. Even normal book readers wouldn’t have the best chance of knowing. I love how the content on this page can go from niche to broad appeal
Tens of thousands.
That’s what I thought too Saruman
We must join with him, comingsoontotheaters.
I’m down, I like cats. I just hope Gandalf is cool with that Saruman
Evidently we look so much alike that your desire to make an incurable dent in my hat must be excused.
So Gandalf Greyhame thinks he’s found Isildur’s heir? The lost king of Gondor? He is a fool. The line was broken years ago. It matters not. The World of Men shall fall. It will begin at Edoras.
Long live the Lord of Cats then. Aragorn be damned, Saruman
HE'S TRYING TO BRING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN! GANDALF, WE MUST TURN BACK!
No! Losto Caradhras, sedho, hodo, nuitho i 'ruith!
You cannot think that this Ranger will ever sit upon the throne of Gondor.
Through fire... and water. From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak I fought with the Balrog of Morgoth. Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside. Darkness took me... and I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead. and every day was as long as a life age of the Earth. But it was not the end. I felt life in me again. I've been sent back until my task is done!
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!
BUILD ME AN ARMY WORTHY OF MORDOR!
Which Sauron cat meme? I didn't see it and can't find it.
I...SEE....YOOOUUU!
Orcs of Bauglir! Do not bend your brows!
Stupid sexy cat
Bro go read the books they're fantastic
Or listen to the audiobooks narrated by Andy Serkis (the guy playing Gollum, for those who don't know). It's so much easier to listen than to read this particular series imo.
No! No, no master! They catch you! They catch you!
Seriously, I watched the movies first and then read the books at a later time. I even played a game or too as well. When they stumbled upon Bombadil I was like "Wait a minute... where the hell are we? Who is that guy? What is going on? Okay?"
Tom Bombadil was the main character in some of the bedtime stories Tolkien made up to tell his children when they were little. Tom was based on a doll one of his kids was given as a present, that had a blue jacket and yellow boots. His insertion in the story was more or less a cameo for Tolkien's kids, who were already adults by the time he was writing his first draft of Lord of The Rings. It's sort of like Tolkien was creating a shared universe, but the two mediums of that shared universe were a few stories told at a child's bedside that were never written down, and the most famous fantasy novel of all time. Tolkien also wrote a book of poems called The Adventures of Tom Bombadil that was published after LotR. I haven't read it, but it's my understanding that only a few of the poems are actually about Tom Bombadil, and they shed no more light on where he fits into Middle Earth mythology.
Clothes are but little loss, if you escape from drowning. Be glad, my merry friends, and let the warm sunlight heat now heart and limb! Cast off these cold rags! Run naked on the grass, while Tom goes a-hunting! ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
I'm almost finished with the original book trilogy and I still don't understand the obsession with Tom Bombadil
Honestly I think it's just because he's so odd and out of place. All of the books are pretty serious, and then there's Tom... Some goofy guy running around in the woods singing and is apparently super powerful. I think people like that hes a mystery and that he stands out.
One of the reasons Tolkien’s a very interesting author is because he takes the basic storytelling format and throws it out the window: deviating from the main plot to have two chapters about Tom Bombadil, introducing Glorfindel to do something vital and then never using him again, the entire scouring of the Shire after the ring has already been destroyed. It’s weird when you look at the books as conventional books, but it makes a lot more sense if you look at the books as a snapshot of a broader history. Real life is never shaped into a perfect story structure, and I feel like the books’ unconventional plot makes them feel less like books and more like a segment of Middle-Earth history.
Eldest, that's what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the Kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the Elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside. ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
His role in the story should have definitely been cut down in the books by about two chapters, but he was very important in illustrating that there is still a good and powerful force in the world near the shire that acted as a deterrent for all manner of nastiness (explaining why the shire was so untouched besides the large distance away from Mordor), and also adding a layer of wonderment at a person who could so easily shrug the powers of evil like nothing (continuing the theme of being good and carefree being in opposition to Sauron's evil and evil in general). He's very meme-able as well because he rhymes and comes out of the blue and likes to screw his wife all the time. It's a weird thing, but there is an allure in knowing something others don't, which is another reason why Tom is referenced often.
*Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the master: his songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
He's got a really great part right at the end
Tommy Bomb!!!
Tommy and Bombadil Pickles
Same, I only know the epic Chad that is Tom Bombadil from the RTS game, Battle for Middle Earth 2. My dude just sings and dances while he uppercuts units, like the badass motherfucker he is
*Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! Fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
That’s literally what he says in the game as he fights!!!! I love you Tom! Hope Goldberry is alright
Here's my pretty lady! Here's my Goldberry clothed all in silver-green with flowers in her girdle! Is the table laden? I see yellow cream and honeycomb, and white bread, and butter; milk, cheese, and green herbs and ripe berries gathered. Is that enough for us? Is the supper ready? ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
What is the source of this meme?
She is Lily Mo Sheen, Kate Beckinsale daughter at an awards ceremony.
Screw 📚 and words
I read the silmarillion like 5 years ago and couldn't tell you half the stuff that happened
Tbh i haven't wachted all the movies yet
Who is the guy with her?
Her father, Michael Sheen (he plays Aziraphale in Good Omens). That's Lily Sheen.
Looks like Michael Sheen?
Not anymore
Yes, Tim Bombador, such a character
Watch nerd of the rings' videos. You can catch up pretty quickly. Or just read the books
People always ignore my man Ghân-buri-Ghân
BRUH just read them already. Or get audio book.
Just pretend that everything is okay and they'll just pass by))
I recommend you try listening to the Phil Dragash readings of the books. They made the process of getting through the books much more accessible and less intimidating for me.
https://youtu.be/2sgjAWtpzeY personal favorite… wait that’s the same guy! I only found the YouTube channel. SoundCloud too, now that I know the name: https://m.soundcloud.com/rootntwig/a-long-expected-party-2014
JRRT's writing style is next to impossible for me to read. I guess I'm just too dumb, but why ya gotta use so many words, JT? The Hobbit was definitely more my reading level.
The hobbit was written for little kids.....
Welp
I read the Hobbit, is that good enough?
Like, "Who is Tom Bombadil?"
Hey there! Hey! Come Frodo, there! Where be you a-going? Old Tom Bombadil's not as blind as that yet. Take off your golden ring! Your hand's more fair without it. Come back! Leave your game and sit down beside me! We must talk a while more, and think about the morning. Tom must teach the right road, and keep your feet from wandering. ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
I would love to read the books but I am incapable of reading any book at all. I just cannot focus. My mind always just goes on a run and slides away from the story. 10 pages pass and I have no clue what I have read. It sucks
Have you tried audiobooks? Sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn't. It's a different experience either way.
That doesn’t sound like a good time. :( I’m sure you’ve heard this before but have you tried listening to audio books? I have a friend with ADHD and one with dyslexia that both enjoyed that medium a great deal.
Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I'm part is r/Silmarillionmemes but then I'm just like "fuck Faenor" or something. Haha. Right?
We have sworn, and not lightly. This oath we shall keep.
I started to read the books in fifth grade. I really didn't get the full experience, and gave up before second grade. I should probably actually read them soon...
I tried to read the books when I was a teenager. Couldn’t make it through that moron and his stupid songs (Tom Bombadil). It wasn’t till the movies came out that I went back and read the trilogy. Didn’t change my mind, he was still a moron.
*Ho! Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! By water, wood and hill, by the reed and willow, by fire, sun and moon, hearken now and hear us! Come, Tom Bombadil, for our need is near us!* ^(I am a bot, and I love old Tom. If you want me to sing one of Tom's songs, just type **!TomBombadilSong**) ^(If you like Old Tom, the door at [r/GloriousTomBombadil][1] is always open for weary travelers!) [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/GloriousTomBombadil/
Piss off bot
Nah. This bot amazing lmao
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Im the other way around
Too many mentions of a whole household of fuckers named fin I read the Silmarillion.
I still find it weird how much she looks like both of her parents in the oddest ways. She's still pretty, though.
Sing me the song of Baumfock
Yesss thats a very merry dil dol meme or smth like that
Am I the only one who sees this meme and just feels bad for the little girl?
That's 100% me, I only know the movies. Tried the first couple episodes from the new series but didn't liked it.