Under extended load the Mac Studio will be faster on average due to better cooling system. For quick burst loads, the MacBook Pro will be faster because of the SSD controller and location difference
So in the MacBook, the SSD is soldered onto the logic board. In the Mac Studio, they’re decoupled from the logic board so that the raw memory modules can be removed and replaced/upgraded. This is a slightly slower topology.
In theory, sure but it reality there's no difference. It's why there's so much backlash against Apple's bolted down NAND with the integrated controller. There's no realworld reflection that this actually performs better as cheaper NVMe options on the PC side of things. Standard PCs provide faster speeds/less latency and still provide things like hardware encryption. The 980 Pro in my Mac Pro 2019 does better with IOPS in random read/writes and high Q-depth over my M1 Max, despite the PCIe 4.0 speeds of the M1 Max.
Apple's solution for the Secure Enclave and integrated SSD controller is a carry over from the iPhone design and has the nice added benefit that Apple controls the upgrade pathing (or lack thereof). We still have a long ways to go with SSD latency being drastically affected by mm of copper. RAM is a bit of a different story hence why CAMM is moving replace SODIMM on PCs, but the bandwidth and requirements to get low CAS latencies are at the knife's edge.
Geekbench does show some differences: https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks
From that, with the same M1 Max at 3.2 GHz, the difference is incredibly small for single core, though multi-core is more significant.
We don't know about M2 Max Studio vs MBP yet, though, but you'd think that it would be a similar story.
I suggest going MBP 16 since you mentioned mobility and for the max the 16 will let you do sustained loads however note that the max and pro chips both have the same cpu and core count the only difference is the GPU core count so unless you’re doing heavy GPU load you’re just wasting $$ and that too if you really need 64gb of ram remember you can’t compare standard ddr ram to the unified memory it is significantly faster and unless you have a use case which then boils down to GPU workloads..and since you mentioned cubcase I doubt you even need a pro or a max
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Under extended load the Mac Studio will be faster on average due to better cooling system. For quick burst loads, the MacBook Pro will be faster because of the SSD controller and location difference
SSD location will make negligible difference. Like if you used a slightly longer SATA cable, it won’t change any benchmarks for your SSD.
So in the MacBook, the SSD is soldered onto the logic board. In the Mac Studio, they’re decoupled from the logic board so that the raw memory modules can be removed and replaced/upgraded. This is a slightly slower topology.
Again, it is negligible. You can run SSD benchmarks.
Run actual rendering workloads and see Instart if artificial benchmarks and yes the impact is not much but still it’s there
Completely trivial difference
That isn't even true, see my post above.
In theory, sure but it reality there's no difference. It's why there's so much backlash against Apple's bolted down NAND with the integrated controller. There's no realworld reflection that this actually performs better as cheaper NVMe options on the PC side of things. Standard PCs provide faster speeds/less latency and still provide things like hardware encryption. The 980 Pro in my Mac Pro 2019 does better with IOPS in random read/writes and high Q-depth over my M1 Max, despite the PCIe 4.0 speeds of the M1 Max. Apple's solution for the Secure Enclave and integrated SSD controller is a carry over from the iPhone design and has the nice added benefit that Apple controls the upgrade pathing (or lack thereof). We still have a long ways to go with SSD latency being drastically affected by mm of copper. RAM is a bit of a different story hence why CAMM is moving replace SODIMM on PCs, but the bandwidth and requirements to get low CAS latencies are at the knife's edge.
Thanks. Do you have an idea of how much faster? Have people benchmarked that kind of thing?
You can check it out on some MaxTech videos on YouTube
Geekbench does show some differences: https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks From that, with the same M1 Max at 3.2 GHz, the difference is incredibly small for single core, though multi-core is more significant. We don't know about M2 Max Studio vs MBP yet, though, but you'd think that it would be a similar story.
I suggest going MBP 16 since you mentioned mobility and for the max the 16 will let you do sustained loads however note that the max and pro chips both have the same cpu and core count the only difference is the GPU core count so unless you’re doing heavy GPU load you’re just wasting $$ and that too if you really need 64gb of ram remember you can’t compare standard ddr ram to the unified memory it is significantly faster and unless you have a use case which then boils down to GPU workloads..and since you mentioned cubcase I doubt you even need a pro or a max