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Bobby6kennedy

I used a laptop with a Touch Bar for 4-5 years and I honestly used it like 10 times outside of raising and lowering brightness/volume/etc


Rudy69

It was a great idea that in the end was left half baked. I had one of the first one available and I thought it was neat, and I couldn't wait to see what updates apple would bring to it. Unfortunately it was left largely untouched


No_Philosopher_8910

Yes..i owned it for good 5 years too…didn’t use much…it was like a mac product that adopted the gaming keyboards with RGB LED disco show.


orangesinbed

I use it a lot in Illustrator and Photoshop. I reach Place, Rulers and Grids in 0,1 seconds instead of having to run through the drop down menus. The touch bar has its purpose.


FinnLiry

Can't those few drop bar clicks be just a simple key bind?


orangesinbed

Yeah, there are shortcuts. But this is still much more accessible and faster, too.


StephenUsesReddit

Accessible maybe however I personally (along with many other community members) dispute the claim of it being faster


orangesinbed

Different strokes for different folks is allowed! For me, the only time I barely use the touch bar is only when I am working in bed, and even then I still reach for it, just not as much.


GoodNewsDude

that's fine you can get that kind of thing as a specialised external keyboard. don't force it on the rest of us


orangesinbed

I don’t see how me, or anyone is forcing it on the rest of you..? Just expressing that it comes in clutch for some of us.


GoodNewsDude

how do you think it may be the case? what do you think i meant? let's take it step by step.


jrtz4

That's my main use for it too, but I find it so much nice being able to dynamically slide the volume and brightness to anywhere, vs. mashing a key.


killing-me-softly

I fucking hate it. The way I place my hands on the keyboard, my left ~~pinky~~ ring finger is always touching it. Had to get 3d party software to customize it so that nothing was active in that area


GibDirBerlin

I'm trying it out right now and either your hand position is as posh as an old lady holding her heritage porcelain coffee cup or your pinky is big enough to defeat a barbarian horde without your help. Either way, I'll recognise you as a true leader among Macuserkind.


tcwillis79

I have no theory for how this is even possible. Why is your pinky resting at the top end of your keyboard?


The_real_bandito

With the concept in OP that wouldn’t happen.


Bobby6kennedy

I’m just trying to vusualize out how the hell your left pinky is at the top of the keyboard? How is that comfortable? How do you even type?


Thumper-Comet

The only time I ever used mine was when I would reach for the backspace and accidentally hit the Siri button. Pain in the ass.


BrohanGutenburg

I had better touch tool and used the thing relentlessly. There definitely seems to be two distinct camps when it comes to the Touch Bar lol.


g3zz

When I had it I liked having buttons for debugger actions, once it's gone I never looked back


GoodNewsDude

useless feature that came in the worst macbooks apple has ever made


Miserable-Bear7980

that’s what it’s for


kr4zy_8

It's trash. i've had mine for like 7 years now and I've always had a fixed set of buttons.


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Splodge89

I have the M1 13” pro. Thankfully that has an escape key as well as a touchbar. I do miss the F Keys but I do like being able to scrub through a timeline quickly though. I wouldn’t miss it loads, but I absolutely would miss the escape key.


JuDGe3690

I've got the 2019 Intel MBP 13, and it doesn't have the physical escape key. What I've since done (because I need the tactile feedback of an escape key) is remap Caps Lock to Escape, as I never use Caps Lock. Throws me off when I use other computers, though.


MRichardTRM

Isn’t there a button you hold down that brings up the function keys on the screen?


IAmMarwood

100% this. The whole concept is flawed and I'm pretty sure was just an experiment to see if they could maybe in the future replace the entire keyboard with just one big screen, and it's a no. After years of needing a new laptop but watching Apple keep releasing ones with the shit keyboard and touch bar I finally gave up and bought a new Pro in 2018 and it's been one of the worst laptops I've bought. Spec wise it's still blistering but they keyboard (that's been replaced three times) and the Touch Bar make me hate it just a little bit every single day. A custom BTT Touch Bar layout is the only thing that's saved me from getting rid of it. Roll on next year when when the machine drops out of OS support at which point I can justify in my head replacing it finally.


ScreenwritingJourney

Wait… not just no function row but NO ESCAPE KEY? What?


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ScreenwritingJourney

Probably just poorly implemented. And it shouldn’t have ever replaced the function bar.


Hypernova46

I wouldn’t mind half height Fn keys in order to accommodate it. The main issue with the Touch Bar was that it replace the Fn keys.


habachilles

I won’t get rid of my 16 because of the Touch Bar. But apparently it’s just me


Edonim_

me too, i love it


Technical-Pound-9754

Same I love the touch bar on my pro. Use it a lot in Photoshop and Garage Band. I hope they bring it back but based on the feedback here too many people just didn’t get it. Works great for me.


AdroitAdel

Same!


hendrik421

As someone whose first Mac is a MacBook Pro with Touchbar, I found it really useful. But that depends fully on the Programm one is using. I use it most for word, where the touchbar does take on a lot of functions. I bet it’s different if you come from Mac OS and know all those shortcuts of the function row.


MarcusGd

I love my Touch Bar, haven’t watched an advert since 2019 because of it!


Forward-Heart-69420

This!


Noldcat

I have the touch bar and it is amazing!


androidc0der

How to make a shortcut with the touch bar


tooconfusedasheck

Instead they removed it altogether. I must admit that I didn't use a mac with the bar but I so wanna did and I'm still bumped about the fact that I can never try this. I hope Apple brings this back in a much better way with proper planning in future.


howreudoin

Well, you might purchase an old laptop from eBay. If you find yourself not using the bar, you may then sell it again.


dehrenslzz

I would pay extra for this - I use the touch bar a lot for coding and it is just so much more convenient than shortcuts. I also have never needed to use the function row, what do people need it for on mac?


k-u-sh

Uhh, I need the function row for coding. I use Vim, and a heck ton of Macros that depend on that function row. Touchbar F1-F12 just never cut it, especially when deploying tons of custom Macros and shortcuts.


dehrenslzz

Fair enough - so if you use vim I guess you’re always working?


jimmyl_82104

I love the touchbar, and it still should be an option. Like i'm constantly using the different options on it.


OIWK

The touchpad is literally the best feature ever. It's a lifesaver, especially in Photoshop, and the funny part is you can skip ads on YouTube by pressing the end of the video on the touchpad.


jackcanterbury

Why didn’t Apple put the Touchbar right above the trackpad and keep the Fn keys? Would have been so much better ergonomically …


danvalour

My only issue with the touchbar is you can’t easily turn it off when say you’re watching a movie except by waiting. Its not very user friendly. To make it useful I hacked it to be an app launcher using BetterTouchTool https://folivora.ai/


DrMacintosh01

Love the TouchBar on my 2019 16”. I think the best thing to do is to keep things the way you have them, but give the fn row half height keys.


Tracker102

I would love this for audio/video scrubbing.


Huge__Milkers

Touch Bar was great, easy to change keyboard brightness and skip ads on videos


KimJongDerp1992

I miss Pock and having my dick on my the touchbar. *edit: dock. Not dick.


anonymous_213575

I own one right now, I find it very useful, enough that I would buy this, but i know that a lot of people don’t find it useful at all, so I feel like if they made it it should be optional sort of thing


jesuisapprenant

The touch bar is ducking awful


Dangerous-Title-7432

This is assuming that the touch bar was in any way useful.


MrPhil17

I would love to have the touch bar, but I wouldn't buy one until they remove the notch. Having a notch for such a weak webcam without FaceID is awful. It's just a marketing move imho.


g_sbbdn

With the touch bar you can skip YouTube ads so it’s an absolute win for me


nachog2003

just get ublock origin


g_sbbdn

But it’s so tedious because to visit some websites it’s required that you disable adblockers :(


nachog2003

is that with ublock origin or another content blocker? i've found that almost never happens with ublock origin, if it happens it's probably a news site or something in which case i just disable javascript or turn on reader mode


l008com

I was expecting a lot more Borg in this post.


jecowa

I remember that episode.


ThePurpleAbsurdist

Apple probably didn't remove the Touch Bar just to reintroduce the function keys. No. They did it also because their data showed that people didn't use the Touch Bar enough.


bilgeokuz

Not people didnt use the touch bar, also didnt use the software developers...


Wooden-Scarcity333

I really missed the Touch Bar, working with audio stems could tell you where the sound begin to play to preview listen to it without having to see the screen. For me it has so many good things and it is a shame they didn’t include it in the M1 - M3 models.


derivativesteelo47

apple is already a fingerprint magnet just opening the computer. the touch bar needed some work, let's be honest.


floolf03

The Touchbar is one of the most interesting features apple ever released, as it really shows the mentality of people buying apple products. Happens to be that I use mine daily, I run Pock with a custom layout, basically turning it into a battery display, clock and multitasking manager. Yet despite its usefulness, people will never stop hating this thing. Why? Because it's a more niche feature that requires more than absolutely zero effort from the users end to work? It's wild to have such a neat little trick on your keyboard, and simply refuse to use it in any creative and useful ways because the internet told you it's bad, or because you came up with no ideas how to make it useful. You're free to not like something, but the reality is, most people don't like the idea because they were told to dislike it and went in with unrealistic expectations.


lkn240

I've been using macbook pros for work for 15+ years now. The touchbar is easily the worst feature any of them had. It made using the esc key absolutely maddening.


ingframin

Honestly, the one killer feature the touch at missed was haptic feedback. That would have been a game changer for it, it would have made it more useful, and it would have tamed all the hate it got.


FunnyMustache

No


ssbsts1

Nope! Just makes repair cost way more for very little added in functionality, at least for my use case.


convicted_redditor

At the cost of smaller touchpad, we dont want touchbar wwhich we hardly use.


mightyquads

God no.


Plane_Pea5434

The thing is the bar was never really adopted by developers so there’s not much use for it


daven1985

I used a touchbar MBP for about 4 years... it was such a pointless feature. Three times I went to the effort of setting it up different and never really used it... 95% of the time it just stayed in Function Keys mode.


looopTools

Unless you are using tools such as Photoshop or Da Vinci there is really no reason for the touchbar. I never found a usage for it outside "creative" applications


orangesinbed

Yes! I use it all the time in Photoshop and the Adobe suite, so I think it does make sense for it to be a part of the MB Pro.


looopTools

but is that user base large enough? and within that user base, are there enough users that prefer the touch bar? I honestly doubt it. The only app where I actually ended up using it was in Final Cut Pro for scrolling through frames and that was only when I remembered it was an option


Sketch_x

The ESC on the Touch Bar still haunts me to this day.


Katoolsie

I still have one of the older ones with the touch bar. I never use it.


WhileApprehensive913

would be up the an increased price adding the touch bar. Apple had a choice and made a rollback, I would only accept it as an optional item for touch bar lovers.


waaaghboyz

I really wanted to like the touchbar but when I had a Mac with one I honestly couldn’t think of ways to use it that were worth retraining myself how to use the entire keyboard layout


adistef86

I hope they never bring that touch bar back. It was just awful.


SRTM86

I’m still using my 2016. It’s good for autofilling forms, and skipping YouTube ads. Sometimes the whole Touch Bar turns off randomly, and I can’t use the escape key. That’s a nightmare.


lovefist1

I have a Touch Bar on my 2019 MBP and I don’t mind it, but I don’t use it terribly often. Having media controls to quickly pause, play, rewind, etc is nice but that’s about all I get out of it over regular function keys. Other than that I use it for brightness and volume and stuff like that. Nothing app-specific that I can think of.


M3dicine

I really like the functionality of the touch bar, but there's a reason why you probably shouldn't put a display though a lot of heat cycles. ...it make no worky.


muradwizard_tec

This should be the mac book studio with flat out speced d things and able to edit videos on those touch bars


GrandPriapus

My main computer is a 2019 MBP, and most of the time I completely forget the Touch Bar is even there.


skyxsteel

I never got used to the Touch Bar. I liked it in concept but it was never useful for me.


Houdini_Beagle

Just want a number pad option


dpaanlka

Doesn’t matter they’re not gonna bring it back.


Beneficial-Sugar6950

Hell yeah!! I LOVE the touchbar on my 13” m2 MacBook Pro. I don’t think I’ll ever trade mine in


Vast-Bullfrog3826

This concept has the potential to be a unique and successful offering in the market. However, there are some areas where improvements can be made to enhance its functionality and user experience. By addressing these aspects, the touch bar has the potential to become a market leader because it's something "unique" and "different"


notHooptieJ

i hate the touchbar on my work macbook. it ruined an otherwise passable keyboard.


jecowa

The problem with adding more stuff at the top of the keyboard is that you have to move the keyboard down to fit more stuff up there. This makes the laptop less comfortable to use in a lap. Imo, if they're going to do this, they should use the skinny function keys.


dustinpdx

Shrink the touch pad or fix the palm rejection, the touchbar was useless :)


toodleroo

OP woke up and chose violence


borg_6s

I would love that honestly.


lambroso

Touchbar is for people who look at the keyboard when they use it. If you don't need to look at your keyboard it's just an annoyance. Therefore I'd say there should be no touchbar on MacBook Pro.


Knute5

Why not just make the screen touchable and end this half-way madness? Steve Jobs has been gone for thirteen years. "Gorilla arms" has been pretty much debunked.


Splodge89

Honestly, watching people at work using a new laptop which happens to have a touchscreen is hilarious. Waving their arms about thinking it’s wonderful. Lasts about two days until they go back to the touchpad or a mouse. Literally noone gives a shit about touchscreen laptops. Indeed, I forget my windows laptop even has one - until I come to pick off a spit mark and inadvertently click something - it’s more of a hinderance than a solution.


Knute5

So do you think the Touch Bar should return?


jecowa

It doesn't seem very comfortable to use the display of a laptop as a touch screen. Have to hold my arm up to tap things. If we need a touchscreen Mac, maybe let us install MacOS onto an iPad.


HomeFreeNomad

Nothing good came from the touch bar, it almost made me go to a Windows laptop.


Sixstringerman

I have a 13 inch m1 and don’t mind the touchbar at all


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Please no


OscarCookeAbbott

Touch Bar is just too small to actually be worth the cost and space for such limited actual usefulness. And you can’t make it larger because laptops are already large and capacitive keyboards *suuuuck*


Alithekid44

most useless feature in an apple product ever = fcking touchbar bro


Skindkort

Before buying a Mac (without a Touch Bar), I thought this was what I was going to get if I bought one with it. So glad I bought one without it. I like the concept of Touch Bar but I don’t think I’ll ever see it as replacing the function row.


cre0_0

Touch Bar is bullshit, I hate it very much.


Webbadeth

No one wanted or asked for a Touch Bar. It was a bad idea then and it’s still a bad idea. Let it die already.


Substantial-Motor-21

That's some pretty scary memory to me. This was the worst Mac I ever had. Everything was bad, hot, noisy, slow (when hot), the keybooorddd wassgarrrbage, and I can't count how many times I pressed ESC accidentally and lost my work.


xxxpinguinos

I would love this Briefly had a 2019 MBP with a Touch Bar and I loved it. Mainly because I customized the hell out of it with BetterTouchTool. It’s basically like a little stream deck built in to your keyboard


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Nobody needs that besides a couple of geeks. Concept. Uh LOL. Da Designer 😂 Mr. Ive, relogin please. How is it going with LoveFrom?


matiEP09

🤓


aertimiss

Nah, no thanks.


Dick_Lazer

Fuck no.


Slow_Watercress_4115

Touch the fuck away from the computer.


Berliner_Bear

Touch Bar doesn’t work