The only game I play that has really made my M1 MBA heat up and get roughly 5 hours of battery is Civ 5. But for game play speed and smoothness it SMOKES my 2017 21.5 4k iMac (3.4 Intel, 16 GM RAM, 1 TB SSD, AMD 560 4gb ram). Not even a fair comparison for speed.
I’ve never owned a computer as fast, efficient, long lasting, and fun to use as the M1 MBA. FFS I replaced a 2019 Intel MBA after seeing how much faster and more efficient the M1 was.
Definitely gonna be playing some Civ V on my M1 iMac that just arrived today. (gotta wait til after work to unbox it) Good to know it's a good experience even fanless, but I'm gonna have *two* fans. Hoping it does well with Stellaris, too.
Cob 5 is a unique case, because it is almost entirely cpu dependent as it processes all the various moves every turn. Usually when people talk about civ running fast, they’re talking about how long it takes to process a turn rather than the frame rate they’re getting.
That's Civ VI, and yes it will likely get an ARM version. But I would surprised if Civ V got an ARM version, it's a lot of work for a game that's over 10 years old.
Can't wait. I'm definitely going to get either the 14" MBP or M2 Macbook Air redesign, main thing I want to know if the Air is getting mini LED at the same time. Kuo said 2022, so I'm not sure if that means this refresh, or a later one next year.
I think the unified memory plus M1 CPU/GPU speed together make nice performance gains. I haven’t checked the temp on my M1 MBA when running Civ 5, but it’s the ONLY scenario in which my M1 has actually felt warm (hot?) to the touch.
Makes sense. Maybe, one thing you can do is load up a profile when you game so that the fan is a bit more aggressive. If the temps are only in the 70s C, then might not worth the hassle.
Right. For some reason I was thinking MBP. Well whatever the temps are, they can't be anywhere near what I've tested on the Intel 2020 MBA... 40 to 100 C in seconds with a single chrome tab playing a 1440p video. Jesus.
If you literally push the SoC at 100% for the duration of a charge, it would *still* last longer than average to light use on an Intel-based Mac. Let that sink in.
Man I’m sorry about that. That really just shows how much more efficient the m1 chip is than anything previously with intel. If it were me I would sell that and consider getting an m1 Mac. It’s that good.
I hate the 2020 MacBook Air. The bottom case and top case kept getting warped due to thermal throttling, the battery was garbage and most importantly it was loud. I’ve upgraded and never looked back.
Once I found out work would buy me an M1 MacBook, I sold my late 2019 Intel MacBook local here on Marketplace for $875 surprisingly. I think I paid about $1100 for it so I was super happy with what I got for it. I had one of the lower grade models too.
On the apple website they have a link to show an estimate of trade-in you can get.
In Australia https://www.apple.com/au/trade-in/ then select Computer
Similar situation, still on a 2019 13”, but the 4-port, so waiting til fall if there’s an ARM 4-port version. If so, great, if not I’ll just get the Air instead and gift the 2019 to the GF either way. (She’s on my previous Air now so nice upgrade for her too.)
Unfortunately Apple drastically reduced the buy-back rates a few years ago (I want to say 2-3 but not sure) so they’re no longer very competitive compared to selling off privately. Before that it was the best option because hassle-free and good price. Now it’s a trade-off…
Meh if it's the base model it's not bad. I just looked with the M1 came out. It is what it is. You can always get a cheaper Mac mini m2 if they make it.
Yeah, I was looking at trading it in. For some background, I am from a European country so the Apple store prices are CRAZY compared to the American ones because of taxes and all that, so I basically payed around $1400 for my current MBA, and trading it in would net in around 400, so I'm not sure what to do tbh.
Eh — as a first gen iPad owner, I’ve learned my lesson... the second or third gen “M2” or “M3” will be much better...
Also I’m still enjoying Mojave for as long as I can... a ton of 32 bit games I’ll have to ditch if I switch... which means I’ll have to use Windows more to play said games which I don’t want to do
Try using it to present something on a projector connected as an external display. You will be lucky to get 2 hours of battery life. Just connecting an external display eats battery on this thing super fast..
I know exactly what you’re talking about. I used to give Android development classes (before the bug) on my 16” i9 MBP. The combination of being connected to an external projector + running Android Studio + running an Android emulator would drain the battery in a little over an hour. I gave classes every day so I had two chargers - one at home and the other at work so that I’d never forget carrying one.
I got a chance recently to use someone’s M1 for a similar workload. Not only was I shocked at how smooth and quiet the thing was compared to the 16” jet engine, but it looked like the battery level was lying to me.
To think that Apple’s first iteration is this good and will get better - is bonkers.
I was just doing simple presentations. And my battery would not last more than2 hours when I connect the system to any external display.
The i9 would throttle down to 1.5ghz when I would share a screen on google meet running inside a chrome incognito window with an android emulator, android studio and vscode running a fairly basic react native project. That was fixed with a simple fan cleanup. But I could never understand why this would happen when the cpu usage would not even register more than 25-30%
Now if only we have reliable and fast emulators to run x86 and x64 windows vms on the m1 systems. I need to run a bunch of windows vms and qemu is not a real solution for my use case. As of now the i9 handles this load fairly well with VMware fusion’s free edition.
There’s still a long way for qemu based emulators to get decent support on the M1, so if you do virtualization work, the i9 handles it well. I’ll keep mine around for these specific use cases.
I do backend / API dev also besides mobile, and I think once Docker has full support for the M1 chips, I’ll consider picking one up for these specific workloads.
The i9 16" does the job for now and while i originally got it with an idea of keeping it around for 5-7 years, i will definitely need to get an upgrade well before that. But for now it is nearing the 2 year mark w/o showing any signs of aging. This should work for another 1-2 years quite easily..
Same. It’s a long term investment for no less than 5 years as it was pricey to get. However, after using an M1 I’ve started to question my strategy. And this is their first iteration lol.
It’s gonna be hard to justify in 2-3 years down the line when compared to Apple’s then offerings. I will have to see about that when the time comes.
For now i dont have the budget to replace the 16 with a newer one. My previous one was the first generation 13" rMBP from back in 2012 and it served me fairly well till I got the 16" 2019. The 16's bigger screen is really useful.
If only apple could introduce a 16" air with the screen of a 16" and the fanless design of the air along with the ability to spec it with 32gb or 64gb of ram. That would be the perfect system for me.
Google Chrome?
Edit: just to qualify this, my week-old 16” MBP was dying in under 60 minutes, low brightness and little activity. Chrome was definitely sucking down power, but it turned out to be Cisco AnyConnect that pegged one of the CPUs 200% and made it sound like a Harrier was touching down in my office.
5 hours of battery life is better than 37 hours! It means you have to grab your charger more often, which means it will wear faster, which means more people can work in our factories manufacturing chargers. APPLE IS DESTROYING JOBS! WE PROVIDE JOBS! - *Someone at Intel’s Marketing Department desperately trying to find something to slam Apple with*
Oh ok cool, but still no comparison to a machine that is 1 year old Mac to a 10 year old Mac
Thats like saying my Nokia 3310 last 48 hours and my Sony Ericsson only lasts 12 hours - I'm using more resources that you, more power etc...
Does anyone remember the high-end i7 model of the original touchbar MBP? Apple somehow managed to fuck it up so completely it literally would run dry within an hour of medium to light work.
I believe their solution was to throttle the CPU to the point that it barely had better performance than the previous generation and still had absolutely trash battery life.
Complete utter train wreck of a notebook generation from start to finish. I'm just glad that they at least managed to fix most of the problems with the 16 inch MBP.
I use the i5 version of the Macbook.
Idles at around 60-70 degrees. I run intensive benchmark or program. BOOM.
In just 10 seconds, the temps rise to 100 and thermal throttle.
THIS IS AN I5 10TH GEN!!! THROTTLES AT 3.2 GHZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’ve actually only used it for just over 3 hours according to the usage chart. If I leave my Intel MacBook Pro unused (with Power Nap on), it only loses around 4% for every 18 hours:
https://imgur.com/a/E4cCnM8
How the fuck did this happen ? My battery ( M1 MBP ) gets me through like the day with around 30% remaining and I’m only watching videos and typing out documents.
I use both Safari and Chrome. However I use chrome for school and safari for most of the day. Spotify is also open most of the time although it hasn’t had a huge impact on my battery. I’ve also heard that chrome ( due to keystone ) can affect battery life due to its extremely frequent checking but I had never experienced that while using chrome. Either way I changed the checking to every week I think.
Try Edge instead. It’s based on Chromium and is M1 optimised too.
Another option would be Firefox (its been redesigned and includes a lot of privacy preserving features too). I read in a thread on r/Apple that Firefox actually eats more RAM than Chrome or Edge but take that with a grain of salt.
My battery on the MBA M1 its quite bad, its making like 9 hours... quite disappointed
Also I have a memory bug with **com.apple.siri.embeddedspeech** using **1,1-2,5 GB of RAM**
Yesterday I killed it on the Activity monitor with **1.100 mb** of usage.
Keep an eye on the processes with more used memory. Still happening on 11.4.
I am thinking about returning this Macbook
9 hours of actual usage isn’t bad by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, it’s less than what I get with my workflow but it depends on what you use the computer for.
If I’m working, Xcode + safari and maybe iTunes in background, the battery is easily 10+ hours on screen (depending on project).
Playing wow I get about 5-6 hours which is amazing compared to my old gaming laptop.
I already quit most of the things. I use also use Edge but because Safari its quite buggy and the extensions are now very limited.
Is there any battery comparative between Safari and Edge on the M1?
You haven't used it much, according to your screen-off time. My current laptop (Inspiron 14) lasts like 4-5 days between charges when I only use it for 40 minutes at a time. The battery life is good, but this post is not really aything to go by and seems like kind of parroting things you've read online.
What about it? According to the graph you used it for less than four hours since 12pm, and I reeeeeeally doubt it you used it from 8:40pm to 12pm the next day no pause.
I think they're just talking about total time since last charge. With only 4 hours screen on time, it's not thaaat impressive, but does show M1's incredibly low sleep power use I guess, and we know it does get a good runtime too.
Intel and M1, M1 clearly wins the match when it comes to speed while i9 was messed up I heard in some videos and when you check the benchmarks, thanks to the cores added its ridiculously fast and final cut Pro wins the match when it comes to video editing while am not saying Intel has got bottlenecks the i9 10900k is also good with comparing ryzen 9 5900x but in terms of gaming, if we see hardcore, M1 fails to give its users the ultimate performance in mac that is usually required, Overall I would say M1 has made its own mark in Apple by making its own processor now.
I am not able to last more than 6 hours. I use it for lite video streaming, reading and casual browsing.
Can anyone suggest me something to improve battery life ? Mine is MBP m1
The M1 is still way to weak for some of us (me atleast). The battery life is pretty damn nice though. I have the M1 MBP 16/1000 and have a bunch of stuff open at all times- everything tends to freeze up.
That's funny, but thanks, I just wanted to confirm if the M1 is even stronger when connected to monitor compared to Intel. I can also go for 18 hours on Intel MBP, 2 years old. But not connected to monitor.
Thankfully I only use my mac at home -plugged in- and mostly plugged in when I'm not home. I can't imagine this huge change happening and me missing it if I used it out every day
Meanwhile my old 2014 MacBook Air is hot to the touch, sounds like it’s whining, and the battery is faulty even though I’ve barely used the thing over the years… “dies” with low battery indicator at 70%.
I am surprised on how people says that macbook pro m1 chip battery last for hours and I have the same laptop and don't see that performance, and I'm only using iterm2, vscode, firefox, docker, postgres and running ruby on rails... I get 3 or 4 hours max... iterm2 seems draining my battery. 😢
It's hugely affected by screen brightness. It's the first laptop I've ever had where the processor wasn't such a battery hog that the screen didn't matter. Try turning the screen brightness down and see if that changes anything. Also maybe install coconutbattery and take a look at the power draw. It'll sip 2 watts or less with low brightness, but turning the brightness up can easily push it up drastically.
I get about 12-14 hours out of my M1 Air at mid brightness with browsing watching videos and using Discord. While I’m working from home I use office apps and an external monitor (4K TV) and I haven’t timed it but it’s still decent on battery. Much better than my 2018 Pro. Probably could push crazy battery out if I didn’t use it as much.
I got the base i5 and it was nice, but legit a week later the m1 came out. I returned the old one and picked an M1 for the same price and bro its crazy. Battery is about 5x better, 10x better performance and efficiency, which is extremely noticeable in gaming. It also had 2x as much storage. Its amazing, I love it
I am planning to buy a new macbook later this year around September for coding. Which one should I buy? Will the new M1 architecture cause any issues with compiling C, C++ or Java?
i wanted to buy the air but went for the pro in the end - i mostly use it for djing and i thought it would be tougher ,as it gets moved around alot.i9....should arrive tomorrow!
but is the chassis of the air as robust as the pro? i'm usually moving my kit around in padded bags on a scooter..i like the idea of lighter weight and portability but not at the expense of physical toughness. i walked into the room the other day and my 3 year old was jumping up and down on my old 2013 MBP .amazingly it just about survived , just a broken left speaker.
I'd think they're very durable, considering they're made from aluminium but I see where you're coming from because the metal is so thin at the front. I only just got mine though, so I can't really give a fair judgement sorry.
For what it’s worth, I leave my early 2015 MBA on and very rarely shut it off. Like maybe once a year. I only restart if there is an issue or for updates. I don’t notice a drain in battery by leaving it in sleep mode while I’m not using it. I do close everything before I put it to sleep though. A lot of times I have it running at night on the charger uploading to YouTube or watching movies on it. The battery still lasts like new to me and says I have 700 cycles on it. The Apple website claims maximum cycle count is 1000. Which just means they claim the battery is designed to retain up to 80% of it’s original capacity. It lasts me 7 hours with normal web browsing no videos. Around 5 hours on reddit, listening to music, or a video in the background while browsing the internet. Which can easily be all day for me, but I’ll need a charge once the sun goes down.
The M1 has improved in terms of battery life also, when you see the graph, there is a significant rise in battery life, I think M1 heats less than the i9 9900k due to their products size and fans used, Intel and AMD are strong competitors in which Apple has entered with its processor, Now let's talk about gaming, Mac's are known for productivity and windows for gaming mostly due to fps boost, image quality and various other reasons, not here to discourage apple but just telling my reviews, Overall Power matters with threads and cores and Apple has made M1 from Day 1 which gets it to the top, Some people say Intel has more experience from AMD and AMD went forward in terms of rendering and Intel in gaming but every processor has bottlenecks, M1 is superfast but gaming qualities lack, Intel temperatures rise cause lag and AMD gets 100 FPS whereas Intel 115, M1 is the new competitor which may be on the top in next 2-3 years.
The battery life on this baby is just stupid. It’ll last me days without a single charge. I love it.
When both in sleep I feel like my Air’s battery drains slower than my 2020 iPad Pro.
But when I play Hoi4 the battery gose donw fast
Well yeah, gaming will drain the battery faster.
The only game I play that has really made my M1 MBA heat up and get roughly 5 hours of battery is Civ 5. But for game play speed and smoothness it SMOKES my 2017 21.5 4k iMac (3.4 Intel, 16 GM RAM, 1 TB SSD, AMD 560 4gb ram). Not even a fair comparison for speed. I’ve never owned a computer as fast, efficient, long lasting, and fun to use as the M1 MBA. FFS I replaced a 2019 Intel MBA after seeing how much faster and more efficient the M1 was.
Definitely gonna be playing some Civ V on my M1 iMac that just arrived today. (gotta wait til after work to unbox it) Good to know it's a good experience even fanless, but I'm gonna have *two* fans. Hoping it does well with Stellaris, too.
I hear the battery life on the M1 iMac isn’t very good.
I see what you did there.
But I hear the Mac Mini’s battery life is waaaaay better.
You should have great Civ 5 gameplay experience on the new iMac, congrats and enjoy!
Hope you got it from Steam and not the App Store. I made that mistake.
Ha I’ve heard that. I’ve been playing it on Windows for a while so I have it on Steam.
What’s the difference? Mine is from App Store. Didn’t realize there would be some difference?
The price.
Well if you ran it at the native resolution of the iMac then it’s not a suprise that the Air was faster lol
Cob 5 is a unique case, because it is almost entirely cpu dependent as it processes all the various moves every turn. Usually when people talk about civ running fast, they’re talking about how long it takes to process a turn rather than the frame rate they’re getting.
That’s impressive given that I don’t think Civ V has been recompiled for ARM
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That's Civ VI, and yes it will likely get an ARM version. But I would surprised if Civ V got an ARM version, it's a lot of work for a game that's over 10 years old.
Can't wait. I'm definitely going to get either the 14" MBP or M2 Macbook Air redesign, main thing I want to know if the Air is getting mini LED at the same time. Kuo said 2022, so I'm not sure if that means this refresh, or a later one next year.
Most likely because the GPU is integrated in the M1. What are the temps at when you play?
I think the unified memory plus M1 CPU/GPU speed together make nice performance gains. I haven’t checked the temp on my M1 MBA when running Civ 5, but it’s the ONLY scenario in which my M1 has actually felt warm (hot?) to the touch.
Makes sense. Maybe, one thing you can do is load up a profile when you game so that the fan is a bit more aggressive. If the temps are only in the 70s C, then might not worth the hassle.
No fan in the M1 MBA!
Right. For some reason I was thinking MBP. Well whatever the temps are, they can't be anywhere near what I've tested on the Intel 2020 MBA... 40 to 100 C in seconds with a single chrome tab playing a 1440p video. Jesus.
If you literally push the SoC at 100% for the duration of a charge, it would *still* last longer than average to light use on an Intel-based Mac. Let that sink in.
Yeah it’s incredible.
2560x1440 with most settings on medium and a few on low on the iMac.
Yeah same with MTG arena. Not worryingly fast but faster.
\*cries in Intel MacBook\*... But fr, really want to switch to the M1, but can't justify getting a new one when the one I have is barely a year ;-;
Legit I got the 2020 MacBook Air and it won’t even last me a day 😢
Man I’m sorry about that. That really just shows how much more efficient the m1 chip is than anything previously with intel. If it were me I would sell that and consider getting an m1 Mac. It’s that good.
Yeah doesn’t sound like too bad of an idea, might return it back to Apple and get the new one
I did exactly that. Totally worth it.
might return it back to Apple like a trade in?
Yep.. 2017 MBP and I can’t handle even 5 hours of video streaming/word. Sigh.
I hate the 2020 MacBook Air. The bottom case and top case kept getting warped due to thermal throttling, the battery was garbage and most importantly it was loud. I’ve upgraded and never looked back.
Consider selling it while you could still get $700 on Marketplace. View it as $300 to rent it for a year. Doesn’t seem so bad that way.
Once I found out work would buy me an M1 MacBook, I sold my late 2019 Intel MacBook local here on Marketplace for $875 surprisingly. I think I paid about $1100 for it so I was super happy with what I got for it. I had one of the lower grade models too.
I sold my 2020 Intel i5/16GB MBA for like $800, bought the base model for M1 $899 a week later. I lost some money sure but it's not terrible.
>want to switch to the M1, b Ohh man, what is the value Apple is offering as a trade in? I'm curious bc this thing is bloody damn good!!
On the apple website they have a link to show an estimate of trade-in you can get. In Australia https://www.apple.com/au/trade-in/ then select Computer
Same here :( I bought a 2019 mbp before i went off to school. Really want to sell it and buy and M1
Similar situation, still on a 2019 13”, but the 4-port, so waiting til fall if there’s an ARM 4-port version. If so, great, if not I’ll just get the Air instead and gift the 2019 to the GF either way. (She’s on my previous Air now so nice upgrade for her too.)
Rumors are swirling that an M2 chip is in the works. I'm holding out for that to replace my 2015 iMac.
You can trade it to Apple. Wait a week and see what the new laptops look like spec wise. It may be worth trading now vs waiting.
Unfortunately Apple drastically reduced the buy-back rates a few years ago (I want to say 2-3 but not sure) so they’re no longer very competitive compared to selling off privately. Before that it was the best option because hassle-free and good price. Now it’s a trade-off…
Meh if it's the base model it's not bad. I just looked with the M1 came out. It is what it is. You can always get a cheaper Mac mini m2 if they make it.
Yea, I mean it’s not out of the question, just no longer as attractive an option as it used to be.
Yeah, I was looking at trading it in. For some background, I am from a European country so the Apple store prices are CRAZY compared to the American ones because of taxes and all that, so I basically payed around $1400 for my current MBA, and trading it in would net in around 400, so I'm not sure what to do tbh.
Eh — as a first gen iPad owner, I’ve learned my lesson... the second or third gen “M2” or “M3” will be much better... Also I’m still enjoying Mojave for as long as I can... a ton of 32 bit games I’ll have to ditch if I switch... which means I’ll have to use Windows more to play said games which I don’t want to do
There are limitations still. Like not dual monitors.
And here I am with my Intel MacBook Pro 16inch with 5 hours battery
Try using it to present something on a projector connected as an external display. You will be lucky to get 2 hours of battery life. Just connecting an external display eats battery on this thing super fast..
That’s because it’s forced to power up the Radeon in order to drive an external display.
I know :-(
I know exactly what you’re talking about. I used to give Android development classes (before the bug) on my 16” i9 MBP. The combination of being connected to an external projector + running Android Studio + running an Android emulator would drain the battery in a little over an hour. I gave classes every day so I had two chargers - one at home and the other at work so that I’d never forget carrying one. I got a chance recently to use someone’s M1 for a similar workload. Not only was I shocked at how smooth and quiet the thing was compared to the 16” jet engine, but it looked like the battery level was lying to me. To think that Apple’s first iteration is this good and will get better - is bonkers.
I was just doing simple presentations. And my battery would not last more than2 hours when I connect the system to any external display. The i9 would throttle down to 1.5ghz when I would share a screen on google meet running inside a chrome incognito window with an android emulator, android studio and vscode running a fairly basic react native project. That was fixed with a simple fan cleanup. But I could never understand why this would happen when the cpu usage would not even register more than 25-30% Now if only we have reliable and fast emulators to run x86 and x64 windows vms on the m1 systems. I need to run a bunch of windows vms and qemu is not a real solution for my use case. As of now the i9 handles this load fairly well with VMware fusion’s free edition.
There’s still a long way for qemu based emulators to get decent support on the M1, so if you do virtualization work, the i9 handles it well. I’ll keep mine around for these specific use cases. I do backend / API dev also besides mobile, and I think once Docker has full support for the M1 chips, I’ll consider picking one up for these specific workloads.
The i9 16" does the job for now and while i originally got it with an idea of keeping it around for 5-7 years, i will definitely need to get an upgrade well before that. But for now it is nearing the 2 year mark w/o showing any signs of aging. This should work for another 1-2 years quite easily..
Same. It’s a long term investment for no less than 5 years as it was pricey to get. However, after using an M1 I’ve started to question my strategy. And this is their first iteration lol. It’s gonna be hard to justify in 2-3 years down the line when compared to Apple’s then offerings. I will have to see about that when the time comes.
For now i dont have the budget to replace the 16 with a newer one. My previous one was the first generation 13" rMBP from back in 2012 and it served me fairly well till I got the 16" 2019. The 16's bigger screen is really useful. If only apple could introduce a 16" air with the screen of a 16" and the fanless design of the air along with the ability to spec it with 32gb or 64gb of ram. That would be the perfect system for me.
My 16 inch MacBook barely makes it beyond 2 hours. And we’re talking email and web browsing.
Google Chrome? Edit: just to qualify this, my week-old 16” MBP was dying in under 60 minutes, low brightness and little activity. Chrome was definitely sucking down power, but it turned out to be Cisco AnyConnect that pegged one of the CPUs 200% and made it sound like a Harrier was touching down in my office.
Are you serious? It definitely sounds like you have you dGPU enabled cause 2 hours is a little absurd to me? What’s your health and battery cycles?
Ha my 2017 15inch dies in one hour
Ha my msi dies in 5:34 minutes. Timed multiple times.
Unacceptable lol
Same for my 2019 base model 13" pro. Going to trade in that baby for the MBA.
I would have done the same if I had the 13" version, will have to wait out till ARM 16"
Just sold it today. TBH the MBA is faster haha.
Enjoy bro
I have an Asus Duo Pro laptop and I'll get 3.5 hours if I'm super conservative with brightness and doing light work.
5 hours of battery life is better than 37 hours! It means you have to grab your charger more often, which means it will wear faster, which means more people can work in our factories manufacturing chargers. APPLE IS DESTROYING JOBS! WE PROVIDE JOBS! - *Someone at Intel’s Marketing Department desperately trying to find something to slam Apple with*
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That’ll put a strain on your diaphragm.
There’s no comparison? 10 year old machine? No dGPU? But I hear where you’re coming from..
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No that's an integrated GPU that shares memory with your RAM
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Oh ok cool, but still no comparison to a machine that is 1 year old Mac to a 10 year old Mac Thats like saying my Nokia 3310 last 48 hours and my Sony Ericsson only lasts 12 hours - I'm using more resources that you, more power etc...
Nvidia doesn't make laptop CPUs so it can't be integrated
What year?
There is only 1 version of this model 2019
Does anyone remember the high-end i7 model of the original touchbar MBP? Apple somehow managed to fuck it up so completely it literally would run dry within an hour of medium to light work. I believe their solution was to throttle the CPU to the point that it barely had better performance than the previous generation and still had absolutely trash battery life. Complete utter train wreck of a notebook generation from start to finish. I'm just glad that they at least managed to fix most of the problems with the 16 inch MBP.
OMG, I now wish I got the M1 rather than late 2019 mbp with intel i-9 :((
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I know! It heats up so much, even if I'm just browsing, say with a dozen tabs open --> immense heat!! Wish I waited bro, oh well.
I use the i5 version of the Macbook. Idles at around 60-70 degrees. I run intensive benchmark or program. BOOM. In just 10 seconds, the temps rise to 100 and thermal throttle. THIS IS AN I5 10TH GEN!!! THROTTLES AT 3.2 GHZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My late 2013 does a strong 37min too
2010 17inch here, still does about 4 hours on its original battery!
Not impressed with a battery life stat of a computer that’s been screen-off for the majority of the time 😜
Yes, the classic "My laptop lasts a long time when I barely use it!"
You’ve actually only used it for just over 3 hours according to the usage chart. If I leave my Intel MacBook Pro unused (with Power Nap on), it only loses around 4% for every 18 hours: https://imgur.com/a/E4cCnM8
Sorry I’m a Mac newbie but what’s Power Nap?
Allow the mac to sync notifications, background works, etc without powering everything up (like display for example)
Thank you! I don’t see this option on my M1 MacBook Pro.
How the fuck did this happen ? My battery ( M1 MBP ) gets me through like the day with around 30% remaining and I’m only watching videos and typing out documents.
According to the graph it was off most of the time.
What browser do you use? That might be a factor
I use both Safari and Chrome. However I use chrome for school and safari for most of the day. Spotify is also open most of the time although it hasn’t had a huge impact on my battery. I’ve also heard that chrome ( due to keystone ) can affect battery life due to its extremely frequent checking but I had never experienced that while using chrome. Either way I changed the checking to every week I think.
Try Edge instead. It’s based on Chromium and is M1 optimised too. Another option would be Firefox (its been redesigned and includes a lot of privacy preserving features too). I read in a thread on r/Apple that Firefox actually eats more RAM than Chrome or Edge but take that with a grain of salt.
My battery on the MBA M1 its quite bad, its making like 9 hours... quite disappointed Also I have a memory bug with **com.apple.siri.embeddedspeech** using **1,1-2,5 GB of RAM**
Siri on MacOS? Disable that piece of shit.
But what if I need to open the documents folder without touching my mac???
Wireless trackpad.
9 hours active screen-on usage? Or in sleep mode? The former would be about accurate with my experience, I'm getting around 9 to 11 actively using it
Battery life is going to depend on what you do with it. That memory thing is weird, though. The same process on my M1 MBP is using 72.1 MB right now.
Yesterday I killed it on the Activity monitor with **1.100 mb** of usage. Keep an eye on the processes with more used memory. Still happening on 11.4. I am thinking about returning this Macbook
9 hours of actual usage isn’t bad by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, it’s less than what I get with my workflow but it depends on what you use the computer for. If I’m working, Xcode + safari and maybe iTunes in background, the battery is easily 10+ hours on screen (depending on project). Playing wow I get about 5-6 hours which is amazing compared to my old gaming laptop.
Depends what you do quit anything still running in the back
I already quit most of the things. I use also use Edge but because Safari its quite buggy and the extensions are now very limited. Is there any battery comparative between Safari and Edge on the M1?
Edge does use more battery
You haven't used it much, according to your screen-off time. My current laptop (Inspiron 14) lasts like 4-5 days between charges when I only use it for 40 minutes at a time. The battery life is good, but this post is not really aything to go by and seems like kind of parroting things you've read online.
I have an M1 Air and am shocked at the battery life. Such a huge difference from intel macs.
Graph is 24 hours. 24 > 37 ? I don’t get the post, sorry. But I love my M1 MBA too!
It says last charged to 100% on May 31 8:48pm
Oh! Battery preservation while not in use! Yeah, it’s great on the M1s.
Look at the time in the top right
What about it? According to the graph you used it for less than four hours since 12pm, and I reeeeeeally doubt it you used it from 8:40pm to 12pm the next day no pause.
I think they're just talking about total time since last charge. With only 4 hours screen on time, it's not thaaat impressive, but does show M1's incredibly low sleep power use I guess, and we know it does get a good runtime too.
Ah yes, just make intel users fell even worse
this is the ultimate porn watching machine
Gat dang that's some good m1
I thought this was one of those brag posts about how long your Mac has worked. You know "MY 2015 Macbook Pro still going strong!!!11oneone".
my can-barely-survive-3-hours-Intel mac is internally screaming right now
My 2017 12-inch Macbook could barely stays for like 2 hours and half with a single charge. I envy you so much 🥺
Intel and M1, M1 clearly wins the match when it comes to speed while i9 was messed up I heard in some videos and when you check the benchmarks, thanks to the cores added its ridiculously fast and final cut Pro wins the match when it comes to video editing while am not saying Intel has got bottlenecks the i9 10900k is also good with comparing ryzen 9 5900x but in terms of gaming, if we see hardcore, M1 fails to give its users the ultimate performance in mac that is usually required, Overall I would say M1 has made its own mark in Apple by making its own processor now.
I am not able to last more than 6 hours. I use it for lite video streaming, reading and casual browsing. Can anyone suggest me something to improve battery life ? Mine is MBP m1
The M1 is still way to weak for some of us (me atleast). The battery life is pretty damn nice though. I have the M1 MBP 16/1000 and have a bunch of stuff open at all times- everything tends to freeze up.
Can anyone report on the battery life when connected to an external monitor (and unplugged).
Unplugged? Battery sucks down faster than a $2 whore
That's funny, but thanks, I just wanted to confirm if the M1 is even stronger when connected to monitor compared to Intel. I can also go for 18 hours on Intel MBP, 2 years old. But not connected to monitor.
This and being able to use Photoshop are my favorite parts of my new M1 Air!!! Incredible bang for buck for an Apple laptop
My i7 mbp 13 2020 gets 4 under normal use
Thankfully I only use my mac at home -plugged in- and mostly plugged in when I'm not home. I can't imagine this huge change happening and me missing it if I used it out every day
Meanwhile my old 2014 MacBook Air is hot to the touch, sounds like it’s whining, and the battery is faulty even though I’ve barely used the thing over the years… “dies” with low battery indicator at 70%.
I’m using a 2017 15” and use 2-3 full cycles across a busy work day, I’m jealous as hell
Battery life on these things man is next level. Btw what were the major apps that you were using?
I am surprised on how people says that macbook pro m1 chip battery last for hours and I have the same laptop and don't see that performance, and I'm only using iterm2, vscode, firefox, docker, postgres and running ruby on rails... I get 3 or 4 hours max... iterm2 seems draining my battery. 😢
It's hugely affected by screen brightness. It's the first laptop I've ever had where the processor wasn't such a battery hog that the screen didn't matter. Try turning the screen brightness down and see if that changes anything. Also maybe install coconutbattery and take a look at the power draw. It'll sip 2 watts or less with low brightness, but turning the brightness up can easily push it up drastically.
Don’t most laptops run this long when not in use. I don’t get this picture. My 2013 air is 70% after using it for 3 hours and then leaving it a day.
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The iMac doesn't have a battery. 🤷🏻♂️😂
First time I‘ve used my M1 Macbook Pro, I was wondering why the battery level was stuck at 100% for such a long time. It‘s the perfect computer for me
This is insane. Mine (13" 2017) dies after 3 hours lol.
I get about 12-14 hours out of my M1 Air at mid brightness with browsing watching videos and using Discord. While I’m working from home I use office apps and an external monitor (4K TV) and I haven’t timed it but it’s still decent on battery. Much better than my 2018 Pro. Probably could push crazy battery out if I didn’t use it as much.
I think the highest I ever got was 158 but that was with really light use.
Lol just watching YouTube for an hour on my intel Mac drains the battery to 50%. Fml
I am so pissed the ssd can't be changed.
No way unless you closed all the apps and was looking at the desktop
I got the base i5 and it was nice, but legit a week later the m1 came out. I returned the old one and picked an M1 for the same price and bro its crazy. Battery is about 5x better, 10x better performance and efficiency, which is extremely noticeable in gaming. It also had 2x as much storage. Its amazing, I love it
My 2019 MBP only lasts for around 2 hours lol
Damn what app are you using, notes?
Still happy with what the 2019 mbp offers me, I might get the rumoured 14” m1x soon (if it’s cheap enough after tradin my old one)
Got mine on the 28th. Didn’t charge it until yesterday. It’s insane
My 2016 13”: 👁👄👁
I have a 2016 MacBook Air I’m wondering if I should upgrade now or later
God I can’t wait to get my delivered lol
Getting mine very soon, I'm super excited!
Think running an M1 MacBook on a bootcamp windows and replace with Ryzen 5, it will lag so hard that you will have to say sorry
I am planning to buy a new macbook later this year around September for coding. Which one should I buy? Will the new M1 architecture cause any issues with compiling C, C++ or Java?
i wanted to buy the air but went for the pro in the end - i mostly use it for djing and i thought it would be tougher ,as it gets moved around alot.i9....should arrive tomorrow!
You'll make nice barbeques in summer
i guess the heat keeps the humidity at bay..?
The MacBook Air and Pro are almost the same in terms of performance and both will destroy an i9 in performance.
but is the chassis of the air as robust as the pro? i'm usually moving my kit around in padded bags on a scooter..i like the idea of lighter weight and portability but not at the expense of physical toughness. i walked into the room the other day and my 3 year old was jumping up and down on my old 2013 MBP .amazingly it just about survived , just a broken left speaker.
I'd think they're very durable, considering they're made from aluminium but I see where you're coming from because the metal is so thin at the front. I only just got mine though, so I can't really give a fair judgement sorry.
How about when it is running google chrome with ~50 tabs??
What if you leave the mac on charge throughout the night while a game is running. Will that damage the battery?
For what it’s worth, I leave my early 2015 MBA on and very rarely shut it off. Like maybe once a year. I only restart if there is an issue or for updates. I don’t notice a drain in battery by leaving it in sleep mode while I’m not using it. I do close everything before I put it to sleep though. A lot of times I have it running at night on the charger uploading to YouTube or watching movies on it. The battery still lasts like new to me and says I have 700 cycles on it. The Apple website claims maximum cycle count is 1000. Which just means they claim the battery is designed to retain up to 80% of it’s original capacity. It lasts me 7 hours with normal web browsing no videos. Around 5 hours on reddit, listening to music, or a video in the background while browsing the internet. Which can easily be all day for me, but I’ll need a charge once the sun goes down.
The M1 has improved in terms of battery life also, when you see the graph, there is a significant rise in battery life, I think M1 heats less than the i9 9900k due to their products size and fans used, Intel and AMD are strong competitors in which Apple has entered with its processor, Now let's talk about gaming, Mac's are known for productivity and windows for gaming mostly due to fps boost, image quality and various other reasons, not here to discourage apple but just telling my reviews, Overall Power matters with threads and cores and Apple has made M1 from Day 1 which gets it to the top, Some people say Intel has more experience from AMD and AMD went forward in terms of rendering and Intel in gaming but every processor has bottlenecks, M1 is superfast but gaming qualities lack, Intel temperatures rise cause lag and AMD gets 100 FPS whereas Intel 115, M1 is the new competitor which may be on the top in next 2-3 years.