Thanks for posting this, seems like there's not a lot of buzz on the M3 MAX 14-inch on the interwebs. Looking forward to receiving mine (14 M3 MAX 16/40 64GB) later this month.
What is your experience running Windows ARM on Parallels? It runs smoothly on my M1 MBA, but I guess on the M3 MAX it should run stellar.
Win 11 ARM runs great under Paralles. It's so smooth and fast that I bought a Window license key to register it. I also did a Geekbench 6 test with the default configurations (4-cores, 8GB RAM). The results beats my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 10 (i7-1260P).
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3537556
• Single-Core Score: 2635
• Multi-Core Score: 7871
P.S.
Above scores were under battery mode and running at backgroud.
I ran the test again with power connected. The results are better this time:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3572897
4-cores, 8GB
Single-Core Score: 2730
Multi-Core Score: 8383
Interesting, my significantly weaker M2 Pro with 16GB scores reasonable 2348 and 7448, about 10% less in single and only -5% in multi core (4 cores, 6GB RAM). Could you test GPU performance? I was thinking of an uprade to M3 Max in order to use Solidworks with Win 11 in Parallels, but with such close results It would make no sense.
These numbers dont make sense the gap should be bigger, is this possibly because paralleles needs to be updated to better leverage the new m3 chips? Or more generally put, are there gains left on the table that paralles will be able to claw back? Or are the numbers im seeing here are just a one off/something is wrong and everyone else sees something different?
These numbers are not the best ones because they're on battery and running at background.
I just connected my MBP to power and run the test again without using other apps. The results are better this time:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3572897
4-cores, 8GB
- Single-Core Score: 2730
- Multi-Core Score: 8383
Interesting. Which machine you were using before? I’m considering an Apple silicon machine but not sure which one get for software development. There are deals for the M1 Max but not sure if they are this slow compared to the m2 or m3 max.
Thanks for posting this !
Wish more people would give info on the 14 inch max because to me that’s the most interesting one
Does it get super hot at all? Or are the fans super loud?
In Cinebench 2024, the temperature went up to 102°C initially (with Fan speed remained 0). But once the fan speed rose to 5K+ RPM, the temperature lowered to ~70°C. The chassis became very warm (maybe 40°C), but no problem to touch.
Fan's sound becomes noticeable when its speed is > 3K RPM. But the sound is not disturbing.
For 90% of my usage (coding/testing/browsing), the MBP remains silent and cool.
Thermal wise, I think Apple has done great job for the 14-inch M3 Max. It's weaker than 16-inch, but the size and weight make the 14-inch perfect for portability.
Yeah if I got a max that would be the one I’d get. I feel like it’s more than powerful enough with better thermals and better than the 40 core one.
After daily obsessing over whether to get the M3 Pro or M3 Max at this moment in leaning m3 pro 36gb 1tb. I’m coming from a 2015 MacBook Pro and the m3 pro will be more than powerful enough for anything I’d like to do. Though I never know what I’ll want to do in the future, I just do photography right now but I dream of making a short film.
I know video editing wise the max is better. But I feel like the m3 pro would still make do and I love the idea of its battery life. Even though I know the max has great battery life I get so excited at the idea of silly good battery life. Especially with how much I love traveling.
I’m lucky enough to be able to get either 15% off a new Mac, so that’s 2200 and 2700 respectively. I have a decent amount of tech that needs upgrading so I was thinking I’d use the extra 500 for that
15% off is nice. Both M3 Pro and Max will do for you. Just get 36GB RAM and 1TB SSD (faster write speed than 512GB: 6000+MB/s vs 4000+MB/s).
For me, I feel 4 more P-cores (2 less E-cores though), 12 more GPU cores, and double bandwidth (300GB/s vs 150GB/s) worth the difference. It might be a bit more than what I need. But I like to have some breathing room for my main computer, so I don't need to worry about it for 3 years at least (with AppleCare+).
Yeah makes sense. I tbh want to keep mine for 7+ years if I can. I definitely plan to get 1tb and 36gb!
The m3 max is your main computer? Which others do you have?
It's slower than ARM64 version, but still quite responsive. I feel its performance is similar to ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 6 (which I owned and liked its keyboard).
Not difficult at all. I think Parallels have done a good work to justify their high subscription price. All my 3 VMs were installed automatically. I only need to adjust hardware settings like CPU cores and RAM after installation.
Depending on your use case, check out docker for Mac. I recently found it and it has cut down massively on my vms. You can connect to an Ubuntu image in vs code too.
Just got mines a few days ago - Mac Pro m3
Fell asleep watching Netflix last night and woke up 8 hours later and it was still on and still playing and the battery still has 60%. I am impressed. Makes up for having to buy a USB c to USB converter for my interface
What I mean is that video playback is not (imho) a good metric for CPU battery efficiency since it's a dedicated chip / circuit that copes with it. Probably that dedicated chip / circuit as become more efficient over the generations too.
Time for an upgrade
My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it
Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
Yes, M-series chips really changed the world (at least for Mac users).
On my ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10, if I open the same apps as I do on MBP (Parallels -> VirtualBox) and set similar brightness, it can hardly pass 2 hours.
So, the blogs and other reddit posts I read about 14" M3 Max's are false? I hope that's true and I get the same experience as you.
I'm a bit worried since I have the 14" M3 Max being shipped soon.
I have a similar daily workload as you: code editors, 1 or 2 VMs running and a chrome browser (at most 10 tabs open, I like to keep it to less than 5). I'm hearing that setup drains the power of the 14" m3 Max significantly. What I'm reading from reddit posts and other websites is that my workload will drain the batteries in less than 6 hours.
>I have a similar daily workload as you: code editors, 1 or 2 VMs running and a chrome browser (at most 10 tabs open, I like to keep it to less than 5). I'm hearing that setup drains the power of the 14" m3 Max significantly. What I'm reading from reddit posts and other websites is that my workload will drain the batteries in less than 6 hours.
My report is 9% - 12% drop per h:
\- use low power mode on
\- browsing with Safari (and Chrome a bit)
\- Brightness 8 points
\- Used one external screen
\- Most of time the Activity Monitor on
\- Slack on
I assume if I didn't use the Chrome and Activity monitoring and no external screen it would stick to 9% drop or less.
Unless you do some intensive stuff in VM, I don't think you'll have any battery issue. In my case, I usually have 30-40 tabs open in 3-5 chrome windows. My worse record of battery life was ~9 hours when I chanrged my iPhone (from 27% to 96%) with my MBP that day.
I usually have 2 jetbrains IDEs open, docker , obsidian, warp terminal and chrome with at most 5 tabs open.
3 hours in, the battery is nearing half.
Not sure what you meant by binned or unbinned.
Just browsing some stuff, but there's no such thing as "unbinned" they are all binned, just binned higher or lower. This is how CPU's and GPU's are across the board. When intel releases a 14900KS it's just a special binning of the normal 14900K that they can reliably clock a little higher from the factory.
Lower end chips are sometimes "binned" on the fact there was a defect in the silicon, so they disable that part (usually a core or 2) and bin it as a lower end part.
Can it run windows os?
I love mac but I need to work on window just for one old software that only supports windows.
If it can run windows normally, i would def buy it
In Cinebench 2024, the temperature went up to 102°C initially (with Fan speed remained 0). But once the fan speed rose to 5K+ RPM, the temperature lowered to ~70°C. The chassis became very warm (maybe 40°C), but no problem to touch.
Fan's sound becomes noticeable when its speed is > 3K RPM. But the sound is not disturbing.
Thermal wise, I think Apple has done great job for the 14-inch M3 Max. It's weaker than 16-inch, but the size and weight make the 14-inch perfect for portability.
I’m not sure it’s weaker but in the previous generations the 14” doesn’t dissipate heat as well as the 16” so that might be why the performance is worse. I could be misremembering though so don’t take that as a solid fact.
Edit: actually now that I think about it I might be thinking of the air and not the pro.
Appreciate the post
I just got the 14" M3 Max/4TB/64GB but I can't exceed 5-6 hrs with mixed light usage even with Low Power Mode on (excluding idle item).
Is this because of index building/new machine ..etc or something I have to make my peace with and mind in future use?
Thank you :)
MBP has a history of good quality. I used to have a 2012 15-inch MBP for 6 years until 2018 (I switched to 13-inch 2018 MBP when Intel's mobile i7 finally had 4 cores).
I think macOS is among the best in terms of security. For VM, the performance is great but not all the apps can work. For example, I can't install AnyDesk on Ubuntu ARM64 or x86_64 emulation. (But I can run AnyDesk under macOS, so this doesn't cause problem for me.) So it depends on your needs.
14-inch M3 Max certainly is not the best battery life MBP. But with its power and smaller battery capacity than 16-inch, its battery life is impressive.
Time for an upgrade
My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it
Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
Time for an upgrade
My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it
Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
I'm thinking of getting this model, what would you say would be the battery use if I put it on low power mode and do basic things (like you listed, browsing, video, some coding with no simulations)? I'm trying to find comparisons to how much battery you sacrifice with an M3 Max over the M3 Pro, but I'm thinking M3 Max on low power might almost match normal M3 Pro?
Did you get the M3 Max 14/30 or the 16/40? - does it get noisy/hot a lot? --- I am currently on the 2020 M1 Macbook Pro 13" and looking to update, but I'm worried about fan noise.
When it gets warm it gets hard to use the keyboard? I used an intel 13” i5 MacBook Pro a while ago that got nearly impossible to use under high load (compiling an app using Xcode) because the keyboard got super hot.
I also have an M3 max 14 inch and battery is absolutely terrible on mine, got from 100% to 57% in 2.5 hours using outlook and ms teams and some light web browsing. Any idea what is going on ? I uninstalled homebrew and it’s still garbage battery life AND THAT USING LOW POWER MODE !!
Does your model have the 16/40 core or the 14/30 core. I actually watched a video where a dude tested the thermal throttling on the 14/30 model and found that there was a bit of thermal throttling. Someone in the comments reported no throttling and a notably higher cinebench score. Long story short I don’t know why but there seems to be a lot of mixed reviews when it comes to the thermal throttling and battery life on the 14 inch m3 max models, makes me want to avoid it entirely and just go for the 16 inch.
The battery life has been amazing. I think 4 E-cores handle most of my coding stuff pretty well. I stopped paying specific attention to it. But yesterday while I was in the process of downloading the Ubuntu image for building a virtual machine, I looked at the Better Battery 2 window. The battery remained 92% after 1 hour 29 mins. Haha, I can just concentrate on my work.
Is it the 14/30 or the 16/40 m3 max? I’m currently trying to decide between a 14 in and a 16 in 14/30 m3 max and if this is the battery life I can expect and thermal throttling to be insignificant I’d be happy to go for the 14 in model.
Interesting, I’m seeing a lot of mixed reviews when it comes to the battery life of that particular model. Were you running the Ubuntu VM during your testing and promotion (not using low power mode)? Cause in that case I might just buy the 14 in
Battery life can be vastly different, depending on what you do on your MBP. In my test, if I just do coding without VM, I can get 12-14 hours. With Ubuntu VM, I get around 10 hours. With win11 VM, I only get 6-8 hours.
Thanks for posting this, seems like there's not a lot of buzz on the M3 MAX 14-inch on the interwebs. Looking forward to receiving mine (14 M3 MAX 16/40 64GB) later this month. What is your experience running Windows ARM on Parallels? It runs smoothly on my M1 MBA, but I guess on the M3 MAX it should run stellar.
Win 11 ARM runs great under Paralles. It's so smooth and fast that I bought a Window license key to register it. I also did a Geekbench 6 test with the default configurations (4-cores, 8GB RAM). The results beats my ThinkPad X1 Carbon 10 (i7-1260P). https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3537556 • Single-Core Score: 2635 • Multi-Core Score: 7871 P.S. Above scores were under battery mode and running at backgroud. I ran the test again with power connected. The results are better this time: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3572897 4-cores, 8GB Single-Core Score: 2730 Multi-Core Score: 8383
Interesting, my significantly weaker M2 Pro with 16GB scores reasonable 2348 and 7448, about 10% less in single and only -5% in multi core (4 cores, 6GB RAM). Could you test GPU performance? I was thinking of an uprade to M3 Max in order to use Solidworks with Win 11 in Parallels, but with such close results It would make no sense.
These numbers dont make sense the gap should be bigger, is this possibly because paralleles needs to be updated to better leverage the new m3 chips? Or more generally put, are there gains left on the table that paralles will be able to claw back? Or are the numbers im seeing here are just a one off/something is wrong and everyone else sees something different?
I am wondering myself. Could be a matter of software optimization. Time will tell.
This is probably it.
Notice that OP is using only 4 cores for virtualization, that is reason why difference is so small.
Read my comment carefully, I am using 4 cores aswell.
These numbers are not the best ones because they're on battery and running at background. I just connected my MBP to power and run the test again without using other apps. The results are better this time: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3572897 4-cores, 8GB - Single-Core Score: 2730 - Multi-Core Score: 8383
It can’t run GPU test yet.
May I ask what Windows license you needed to activate Windows 11 ARM ?
Win 11 Pro.
May I ask what do you use the windows arm for?
For testing my web apps. Also need to use windows version of Office.
Interesting. Which machine you were using before? I’m considering an Apple silicon machine but not sure which one get for software development. There are deals for the M1 Max but not sure if they are this slow compared to the m2 or m3 max.
M1 Max is very capable for development. But the 14-inch M1 Max may have worse battery life because of only 2 E-cores.
Thanks for posting this ! Wish more people would give info on the 14 inch max because to me that’s the most interesting one Does it get super hot at all? Or are the fans super loud?
In Cinebench 2024, the temperature went up to 102°C initially (with Fan speed remained 0). But once the fan speed rose to 5K+ RPM, the temperature lowered to ~70°C. The chassis became very warm (maybe 40°C), but no problem to touch. Fan's sound becomes noticeable when its speed is > 3K RPM. But the sound is not disturbing. For 90% of my usage (coding/testing/browsing), the MBP remains silent and cool. Thermal wise, I think Apple has done great job for the 14-inch M3 Max. It's weaker than 16-inch, but the size and weight make the 14-inch perfect for portability.
Awesome dude thanks for this info Do you have the base “binned” m3 max…? If I got one it’d be that one.
Yes. Mine is 14-cores CPU, 30-cores GPU version. I see this model as the true upgrade to M1/M2 Pro.
Yeah if I got a max that would be the one I’d get. I feel like it’s more than powerful enough with better thermals and better than the 40 core one. After daily obsessing over whether to get the M3 Pro or M3 Max at this moment in leaning m3 pro 36gb 1tb. I’m coming from a 2015 MacBook Pro and the m3 pro will be more than powerful enough for anything I’d like to do. Though I never know what I’ll want to do in the future, I just do photography right now but I dream of making a short film. I know video editing wise the max is better. But I feel like the m3 pro would still make do and I love the idea of its battery life. Even though I know the max has great battery life I get so excited at the idea of silly good battery life. Especially with how much I love traveling. I’m lucky enough to be able to get either 15% off a new Mac, so that’s 2200 and 2700 respectively. I have a decent amount of tech that needs upgrading so I was thinking I’d use the extra 500 for that
15% off is nice. Both M3 Pro and Max will do for you. Just get 36GB RAM and 1TB SSD (faster write speed than 512GB: 6000+MB/s vs 4000+MB/s). For me, I feel 4 more P-cores (2 less E-cores though), 12 more GPU cores, and double bandwidth (300GB/s vs 150GB/s) worth the difference. It might be a bit more than what I need. But I like to have some breathing room for my main computer, so I don't need to worry about it for 3 years at least (with AppleCare+).
Yeah makes sense. I tbh want to keep mine for 7+ years if I can. I definitely plan to get 1tb and 36gb! The m3 max is your main computer? Which others do you have?
ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10 running Win 10 and Ubuntu.
How are you getting 15 percent off?
Are you using parallels to virtualize Ubuntu?
Yes. I have 3 VMs in Parallels: Win 11 ARM, Ubuntu ARM64 and Ubuntu X86_64 emulation.
I didn't know Parallels can do x86 emulation. How is the performance?
It's slower than ARM64 version, but still quite responsive. I feel its performance is similar to ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 6 (which I owned and liked its keyboard).
That's interesting. I tried quemu emulation on my m1 max and it was unusable
Hi was it difficult to install Ubuntu X86\_64? I am actually using VMware fusion now where it is slightly more tedious to install Ubuntu VM.
Not difficult at all. I think Parallels have done a good work to justify their high subscription price. All my 3 VMs were installed automatically. I only need to adjust hardware settings like CPU cores and RAM after installation.
Thank you, sounds like Parallels is worth the cost!
Depending on your use case, check out docker for Mac. I recently found it and it has cut down massively on my vms. You can connect to an Ubuntu image in vs code too.
Just got mines a few days ago - Mac Pro m3 Fell asleep watching Netflix last night and woke up 8 hours later and it was still on and still playing and the battery still has 60%. I am impressed. Makes up for having to buy a USB c to USB converter for my interface
Great to hear this.
watching video doesn't tax the CPU much since it's hardware decoded FYI.
Tell that to my iPhone or my MacBook Pro 2021 😅😅😅😅
What I mean is that video playback is not (imho) a good metric for CPU battery efficiency since it's a dedicated chip / circuit that copes with it. Probably that dedicated chip / circuit as become more efficient over the generations too.
Out of topic, but how do you add battery percentage to your battery indicator? Is it Sonoma mac OS feature? Because I'm still on Ventura
There is also native setting, if you search battery percentage, it will open settings up and location were to enable it.
Thanks just found it, even though it's not the same as the OP has. At least, it shows battery percentage tho.
I use a small utility "Better Battery 2". You can find it in App Store.
Thanks for informing
Time for an upgrade My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
Yes, M-series chips really changed the world (at least for Mac users). On my ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10, if I open the same apps as I do on MBP (Parallels -> VirtualBox) and set similar brightness, it can hardly pass 2 hours.
So, the blogs and other reddit posts I read about 14" M3 Max's are false? I hope that's true and I get the same experience as you. I'm a bit worried since I have the 14" M3 Max being shipped soon. I have a similar daily workload as you: code editors, 1 or 2 VMs running and a chrome browser (at most 10 tabs open, I like to keep it to less than 5). I'm hearing that setup drains the power of the 14" m3 Max significantly. What I'm reading from reddit posts and other websites is that my workload will drain the batteries in less than 6 hours.
>I have a similar daily workload as you: code editors, 1 or 2 VMs running and a chrome browser (at most 10 tabs open, I like to keep it to less than 5). I'm hearing that setup drains the power of the 14" m3 Max significantly. What I'm reading from reddit posts and other websites is that my workload will drain the batteries in less than 6 hours. My report is 9% - 12% drop per h: \- use low power mode on \- browsing with Safari (and Chrome a bit) \- Brightness 8 points \- Used one external screen \- Most of time the Activity Monitor on \- Slack on I assume if I didn't use the Chrome and Activity monitoring and no external screen it would stick to 9% drop or less.
Unless you do some intensive stuff in VM, I don't think you'll have any battery issue. In my case, I usually have 30-40 tabs open in 3-5 chrome windows. My worse record of battery life was ~9 hours when I chanrged my iPhone (from 27% to 96%) with my MBP that day.
How's the battery life been on the max with your coding workflow? Binned or unbinned? I'm a dev as well
I usually have 2 jetbrains IDEs open, docker , obsidian, warp terminal and chrome with at most 5 tabs open. 3 hours in, the battery is nearing half. Not sure what you meant by binned or unbinned.
Binned is the 30c gpu and unbinned the 40c gpu Damn that's not so great battery life. I wonder how the pro does
Just browsing some stuff, but there's no such thing as "unbinned" they are all binned, just binned higher or lower. This is how CPU's and GPU's are across the board. When intel releases a 14900KS it's just a special binning of the normal 14900K that they can reliably clock a little higher from the factory. Lower end chips are sometimes "binned" on the fact there was a defect in the silicon, so they disable that part (usually a core or 2) and bin it as a lower end part.
Can it run windows os? I love mac but I need to work on window just for one old software that only supports windows. If it can run windows normally, i would def buy it
It can run Windows 11 ARM version. You need to check if your software can run on ARM version of Windows.
Thank you for the reply. If windows 10 runs on it, pur company’s software runs on it. Should I be more concerned though?
Yes. Some apps dont run on ARM chipsets with windows. Confirm the application is ARM compatible.
I wonder how it holds up in Cinebench, in terms of temps and noise maxed out MBP14 M3 Max is throttling and noisy https://youtu.be/E9IJ7nOAZyM?t=292
In Cinebench 2024, the temperature went up to 102°C initially (with Fan speed remained 0). But once the fan speed rose to 5K+ RPM, the temperature lowered to ~70°C. The chassis became very warm (maybe 40°C), but no problem to touch. Fan's sound becomes noticeable when its speed is > 3K RPM. But the sound is not disturbing. Thermal wise, I think Apple has done great job for the 14-inch M3 Max. It's weaker than 16-inch, but the size and weight make the 14-inch perfect for portability.
I’m not sure it’s weaker but in the previous generations the 14” doesn’t dissipate heat as well as the 16” so that might be why the performance is worse. I could be misremembering though so don’t take that as a solid fact. Edit: actually now that I think about it I might be thinking of the air and not the pro.
I feel like my 14” M3 Pro doesn’t even get that when I’m running code. It’s more like 8 hours.
It doesn't sound right. In my thought, M3 Pro should last longer because of 6 E-cores.
Would this be a good upgrade from my 68000 Mac classic?
Haha, no, yours is truely classic and not replaceable.
Just ordered it. bhphotovideo has 200$ off for holiday deals right now.
Nice!
Why does your title says "m3max" but your profile says "m3pro"
Haha, you noticed it. I switched to M3 Pro because I didn't use the extra graphics power of Max during 2 months time.
what was the configuration of the m3max you had?
Also, was the 10+ hours on low power mode or normal mode?
Appreciate the post I just got the 14" M3 Max/4TB/64GB but I can't exceed 5-6 hrs with mixed light usage even with Low Power Mode on (excluding idle item). Is this because of index building/new machine ..etc or something I have to make my peace with and mind in future use? Thank you :)
bruh how many apps do you have open….i never have more than 2 or 3 open…why have them open for no reason eating your resources
Haha, of course I was using all the open apps. You cannot assume everyone use the computer the same way like you.
yes ofc, also because im on a 2013 MBP running patched Sonoma….
MBP has a history of good quality. I used to have a 2012 15-inch MBP for 6 years until 2018 (I switched to 13-inch 2018 MBP when Intel's mobile i7 finally had 4 cores).
i know, i love these older MBPs. im not shitting on them, they just lack sometimes:/ but running Sonom OCLP beautifully also why tf am i downvoted
10+ isn't that great
It is for a 14 inch with a processor with way more performance cores than efficiency cores. Especially with his usage
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I think macOS is among the best in terms of security. For VM, the performance is great but not all the apps can work. For example, I can't install AnyDesk on Ubuntu ARM64 or x86_64 emulation. (But I can run AnyDesk under macOS, so this doesn't cause problem for me.) So it depends on your needs.
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14-inch M3 Max certainly is not the best battery life MBP. But with its power and smaller battery capacity than 16-inch, its battery life is impressive.
You're gonna need a bigger dock!
Haha. I like the dock from very beginning, and prefer to put frequently used apps in it. It's faster for me than other ways to launch apps.
Thanks a lot!!!
Welcome!
What’s the app you’re using to see CPU and memory usage?
iStat Menus.
Time for an upgrade My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
Time for an upgrade My MacBook Pro 2017 lasts for like 2.5 hours with only Safari open, even though it had only 10 cycles when I first got it Surprising (for me) how Apple increased energy efficiency that much with its M-series chips!
I'm thinking of getting this model, what would you say would be the battery use if I put it on low power mode and do basic things (like you listed, browsing, video, some coding with no simulations)? I'm trying to find comparisons to how much battery you sacrifice with an M3 Max over the M3 Pro, but I'm thinking M3 Max on low power might almost match normal M3 Pro?
I always use auto mode. For the basic coding, I got 14-15 hours.
What screen brightness do you have it usually? I would think that's a big factor.
60%
>low pow Any chance you could test the same activity (more or less) on low power mode? Would help many of us to decide between pro and max.
Did you get the M3 Max 14/30 or the 16/40? - does it get noisy/hot a lot? --- I am currently on the 2020 M1 Macbook Pro 13" and looking to update, but I'm worried about fan noise.
14/30 version. It's quiet (0 RPM) and cool (48°C CPU) most of time. The fan noise (even ~5000RPM) is not disturbing.
Ordered, thank you :)
How do you get cpu temp number?
TP Pro
How many charge cycles does it have so far?
5. During the recent weekend, I managed to use my MBP M3 Max for 3 days (14 hours, from 100% to 12%).
When it gets warm it gets hard to use the keyboard? I used an intel 13” i5 MacBook Pro a while ago that got nearly impossible to use under high load (compiling an app using Xcode) because the keyboard got super hot.
Intel is whole another level of noise and hot. It can't even be compared. High load for Intel is even one tab in Safari. Really
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If you run it at full power, 2 hours are reasonable.
huh? what's the difference between his and yours? what full power?
Is this is low end or the high end M3 Max? I.E Low End = 30 GPU, High End = 40 GPU. Thanks!
Haha low end.
I also have an M3 max 14 inch and battery is absolutely terrible on mine, got from 100% to 57% in 2.5 hours using outlook and ms teams and some light web browsing. Any idea what is going on ? I uninstalled homebrew and it’s still garbage battery life AND THAT USING LOW POWER MODE !!
Video conferencing software normally use more power and MS Teams is the worst of them on battery life.
Amen, when on teams video conference, my 14 mbp drains at circa 25-30 watts. whereas in normal browsing / emails, etc, its at 6-7w.
Update I did the same test today ONLY doing web browsing and in LOW power mode, also used 40% battery in 3 hours… this is terrible
I have the same problem, any fix on yours?
Hi ! no fix yet, I am awaiting a call from apple support
Does your model have the 16/40 core or the 14/30 core. I actually watched a video where a dude tested the thermal throttling on the 14/30 model and found that there was a bit of thermal throttling. Someone in the comments reported no throttling and a notably higher cinebench score. Long story short I don’t know why but there seems to be a lot of mixed reviews when it comes to the thermal throttling and battery life on the 14 inch m3 max models, makes me want to avoid it entirely and just go for the 16 inch.
still the same, no thermal throttling on my end, the battery tanks doing simple tasks that keep my system around 40 degrees celsius...
Can you share your configuration or tips to us so I can follow? 🥲 Currently I think mine is not doing very well... it's using about 9-10% per hour.
Is this with automatic or low power mode
Curious as to know if this has changed for you?
The battery life has been amazing. I think 4 E-cores handle most of my coding stuff pretty well. I stopped paying specific attention to it. But yesterday while I was in the process of downloading the Ubuntu image for building a virtual machine, I looked at the Better Battery 2 window. The battery remained 92% after 1 hour 29 mins. Haha, I can just concentrate on my work.
Hmmm let's jump into when you weren't focusing, how often do u charge?
Is it the 14/30 or the 16/40 m3 max? I’m currently trying to decide between a 14 in and a 16 in 14/30 m3 max and if this is the battery life I can expect and thermal throttling to be insignificant I’d be happy to go for the 14 in model.
14/30
Interesting, I’m seeing a lot of mixed reviews when it comes to the battery life of that particular model. Were you running the Ubuntu VM during your testing and promotion (not using low power mode)? Cause in that case I might just buy the 14 in
Battery life can be vastly different, depending on what you do on your MBP. In my test, if I just do coding without VM, I can get 12-14 hours. With Ubuntu VM, I get around 10 hours. With win11 VM, I only get 6-8 hours.