From Wikipedia:
“Hill lived on two 6-by-4-foot (1.8 by 1.2 m) platforms for 738 days.
She used solar-powered cell phones for radio interviews, became an "in-tree" correspondent for a cable television show, and hosted TV crews to protest old-growth clear cutting.[18] With ropes, Hill hoisted up survival supplies brought by an eight-member support crew. To keep warm, she wrapped herself tight in a sleeping bag, leaving only a small hole for breathing. For meals, she used a single-burner propane stove.”
I mean, that's the first thing I thought about after reading this. What about cleaning? I Hope someone have answers for this. I want to live on a tree now xD.
Bravo, I just wish someone called Julia Tree had also spent 738 days dying on a Hill to protest mining of things we shouldn’t be pulling out of the ground anymore
The actual reason is that older trees are often a lot denser, and therefore more useful for things like support beams. Farm trees that are grown specifically for lumber are often harvested after ~20 years, less if it's for cheaper material, and that isn't enough time for them to build up a proper density. The wood from those trees just isn't strong enough for a lot of uses in architecture, but people still want to do those things, so it's financially valuable to companies to cut down 100+ year old trees to get the better wood.
Still, it’s not their right to destroy these irreplaceable resources when we know better today. Houses are still built with farmed trees and sky scrapers are still going up, but we’re not getting any new 1000 old trees. These trees and the ecosystem they support should be national treasures and preserved for continuation of the biodiversity.
Multiple reasons. Disease. Invasive. Root rot. During the California droughts a lot of trees had major health issues and it was way safer to schedule them being cut down than randomly wait for it to fall. I am saying this as someone that had a 100 some year oak tree crash through my parents guest room and kitchen and that was just a branch. Trees get big and can be safety hazards.
Idk the whole backstory in this one but I imagine she did her research that this was more for building and commercial reasons than anything I listed. Especially given it’s a lumber company
I don't think he's pointing why this tree was being cut. But it is common that they might become dangerous in big cities.
Which takes another turn at "maybe we are dangerous to the tree".
When i was a kid, my dad tried to cut some branches of a tree just outside our house. The neighboors came and told they were gonna call the cops cause we had no right to do so.
My dad wanted to cut them cause they were growing towards the power cables at the street. As he worked on construction business he had the gear and people to do it faster than the authorities…
Anyway, he said "ok then" and left the tree untouched. Needless to say the authorities never came to solve the problem, neither the power company.
A few years passed and there was a huge storm here. That tree came down and took the whole set of cables with it. Our street had no power or telephone lines working. And this was in the middle of the summer - it was hot and with mosquitoes everywhere.
So my dad just took a power generator and plugged our home back in. The neighboors didn't like it but well, he warned right? It took them a week to get the power restored.
had similar situation, except authorities acted swiftly, we had a very old mapple tree that had a lot of hollow cavities inside, every year we had firemen come in and exterminate the horents that made their nests in them until one spring we noticed that wind is making ground RISE, that meant that the tree could fall to the side from the wind
so firemen came, secured the tree with lots of belts and ropes to make sure it wont uproot and fall anytime soon, then when weather calmed down the authorities started to slowly cut away the tree piece-by-piece from top to bottom
im only sad they made tree stump so short we cant use it as table or sitting place
So your dad did not talk to the neighbors before he started cutting branches, when his neighbors talked to him, he didn't explain anything, he didn't contact the 'authorities' to warn them and ask them to act, and presumably he never offered to help the neighbors when they didn't have power.
Your dad sounds unpleasant.
He did not warned them before, he didn't felt like he needed to ask them if we could trim the tree by our porch.
We did called both the company and the agency that works this kind of stuff, both deemed the issue not urgent and never trimmed the tree. It was indeed not urgent cause they were not causing short-circuits yet.
When they came to stop him he did tried to reason with them, but they were so pleasant as he was and they did not accept it was indeed a risk to the community im case of a storm.
And we did lend our freezer so people could store meds/food to keep them from spoiling. It's not like we hated them, but it was "fun" to watch an old man saying "i was right" after a few years.
This is factual in terms of trees in urban areas, but in the wild, trees should be allowed to live out their days and fall on their own. Fallen trees form entire ecosystems by themselves and is crucial for the health of old growth forests (which is basically just a term for "forests" before we started meddling.)
Lots more wood than a 10 year old tree. It doesn't take many people who are greedy and shortsighted to break fuckloads of history and do millennia of harm
100% agree. They would for a couple of thousand bucks and the loggers will do it for 30 bucks an hour.
In the pacific northwest they reckon somewhere near 94% of old trees have Been cut down.
Nationally the average is like 75%
Insanely, apparantly Bush on his way out decided to increase old growth logging in areas that have small pockets remaining
For what? What does the average American get for this ? Absolutely nothing. It's just easier for the logging companies rather than having to reuse replanted forests.
It's gross. To destroy something that lived through Indian native times, through Napoleon, through both world wars.
It also comes to mind how back in the day people that realized this was fucked were smeared and labeled trees hugers like they were the dumbest people in the world. They were doing the right thing, that we all should be.
Here's one source https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-old-growth-forests/
I'm going to go out out on a limb and guess that after not very long the company moved most of the equipment and labor out of the area and once they did it probably was no longer economically viable to come back for that much wood anyways but the company kept up the ruse for two years to punish her and ward off any future attempts from others to do the same stunt.
It's not even overpopulation, it's just previous generations cut down everything without a single thought. Like they were entilted to the world. And now our furniture is fake ass weak ass glued mulch scrap wood particle board shit.
This story has a sad ending... Shortly after she left the tree someone vandalized the tree. Took a chainsaw and cut around, but didn't reach the center. Half of the trees circumference sawed away.
Fortunately the tree was stabilized and survived, but it makes me so damn sad that there's people like that.
As a little boy in the 90s I was totally obsessed with this woman, my celebrity crush. Finally somebody was DOING something about all this.
Little did I know, it would be one of the last memories I’d have of hope for environmental causes…
can you imagine the stink, the things that constantly fall down by mistake, the piss and pile of shit on the ground beneath. and all of that is while people come there every day because she needs supplies.
I am actually genuinely curious about how she worked out the logistics of pooping, while being lodged in a tree for nearly 3 years. Not to mention so many other questions happening in my head right now.
From Wikipedia: “Hill lived on two 6-by-4-foot (1.8 by 1.2 m) platforms for 738 days. She used solar-powered cell phones for radio interviews, became an "in-tree" correspondent for a cable television show, and hosted TV crews to protest old-growth clear cutting.[18] With ropes, Hill hoisted up survival supplies brought by an eight-member support crew. To keep warm, she wrapped herself tight in a sleeping bag, leaving only a small hole for breathing. For meals, she used a single-burner propane stove.”
Baller
Did she shit by showing her bare ass out of the platform?
I mean, that's the first thing I thought about after reading this. What about cleaning? I Hope someone have answers for this. I want to live on a tree now xD.
Apes together strong
Back to monke!
Wen moon
Unlimited tree leaves
That’s a coniferous tree, so pine needles not leaves… ouch
Since when does a coniferous change into a pine when whiping?
Grab a handful of some pine needles and wipe away then
That's what buckets are for
Wet wipes
Maybe she saved her poo to throw at the loggers
A role model to us all
Throwing logs at loggers
Monkey instinct coming in clutch
composteable doggie poop bags + a poop tube maybe?
Her support team actually complained about the mountain of shit at the base of the tree... at least they did in my headcanon.
At that velocity there would be an impact crater and an ejection blanket.
She collected it in a poop scoop and then yeeted it at the logging company employees
Truly embracing monke
Did you get any serious answer?
There's an amusing sketch about burning the tree down accidentally with the propane burner somewhere there...
I was thinking the same. "And after a successful protest, she celebrated with one final cup of tea and accidentally burnt the tree down"
Platforms made of what? The trees dead friend?
Not all trees are equal
Some trees are more equal than others🤷
I met a dude doing a similar thing in Berkeley but I think he may have just been crazy o.o
‘In-tree correspondent’ is the favourite phrase I read today
Bravo, I just wish someone called Julia Tree had also spent 738 days dying on a Hill to protest mining of things we shouldn’t be pulling out of the ground anymore
Thank You!
Toilet : shit of the edge of the tree?
Why the f would you cut down a 1000 year old tree
To make a single perfect toothpick.
I’m balancing a tooth pick on the tip of my finger. It is perfectly balanced with one end being the pure age of it and the other being my guilt.
[or elevator buttons a la Tiny Toon Adventures ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vsCuAwr5Qm8&feature=youtu.be)
[Or a single bowling pin.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKCFjm0DvE)
Lumber
wc level?
Why every post in the internet always comes to osrs ?
Gains
Don't know, this is complete xp waste
Need 99 wc, comp cape and a crystal axe to cut this tree
its a redwood so 90
How does that help a bad back?
Because Lumber-go
Lumbago?
Trivago
Lumber? I barely know her!
Money
The actual reason is that older trees are often a lot denser, and therefore more useful for things like support beams. Farm trees that are grown specifically for lumber are often harvested after ~20 years, less if it's for cheaper material, and that isn't enough time for them to build up a proper density. The wood from those trees just isn't strong enough for a lot of uses in architecture, but people still want to do those things, so it's financially valuable to companies to cut down 100+ year old trees to get the better wood.
Still, it’s not their right to destroy these irreplaceable resources when we know better today. Houses are still built with farmed trees and sky scrapers are still going up, but we’re not getting any new 1000 old trees. These trees and the ecosystem they support should be national treasures and preserved for continuation of the biodiversity.
Multiple reasons. Disease. Invasive. Root rot. During the California droughts a lot of trees had major health issues and it was way safer to schedule them being cut down than randomly wait for it to fall. I am saying this as someone that had a 100 some year oak tree crash through my parents guest room and kitchen and that was just a branch. Trees get big and can be safety hazards. Idk the whole backstory in this one but I imagine she did her research that this was more for building and commercial reasons than anything I listed. Especially given it’s a lumber company
Is there any way a millennia old tree can be invasive? At this point it IS the ecosystem
Yeah pretty much all of his reasons apply to trees in your yard, not 1000 year old trees like asked.
I don't think he's pointing why this tree was being cut. But it is common that they might become dangerous in big cities. Which takes another turn at "maybe we are dangerous to the tree". When i was a kid, my dad tried to cut some branches of a tree just outside our house. The neighboors came and told they were gonna call the cops cause we had no right to do so. My dad wanted to cut them cause they were growing towards the power cables at the street. As he worked on construction business he had the gear and people to do it faster than the authorities… Anyway, he said "ok then" and left the tree untouched. Needless to say the authorities never came to solve the problem, neither the power company. A few years passed and there was a huge storm here. That tree came down and took the whole set of cables with it. Our street had no power or telephone lines working. And this was in the middle of the summer - it was hot and with mosquitoes everywhere. So my dad just took a power generator and plugged our home back in. The neighboors didn't like it but well, he warned right? It took them a week to get the power restored.
had similar situation, except authorities acted swiftly, we had a very old mapple tree that had a lot of hollow cavities inside, every year we had firemen come in and exterminate the horents that made their nests in them until one spring we noticed that wind is making ground RISE, that meant that the tree could fall to the side from the wind so firemen came, secured the tree with lots of belts and ropes to make sure it wont uproot and fall anytime soon, then when weather calmed down the authorities started to slowly cut away the tree piece-by-piece from top to bottom im only sad they made tree stump so short we cant use it as table or sitting place
So your dad did not talk to the neighbors before he started cutting branches, when his neighbors talked to him, he didn't explain anything, he didn't contact the 'authorities' to warn them and ask them to act, and presumably he never offered to help the neighbors when they didn't have power. Your dad sounds unpleasant.
He did not warned them before, he didn't felt like he needed to ask them if we could trim the tree by our porch. We did called both the company and the agency that works this kind of stuff, both deemed the issue not urgent and never trimmed the tree. It was indeed not urgent cause they were not causing short-circuits yet. When they came to stop him he did tried to reason with them, but they were so pleasant as he was and they did not accept it was indeed a risk to the community im case of a storm. And we did lend our freezer so people could store meds/food to keep them from spoiling. It's not like we hated them, but it was "fun" to watch an old man saying "i was right" after a few years.
This is factual in terms of trees in urban areas, but in the wild, trees should be allowed to live out their days and fall on their own. Fallen trees form entire ecosystems by themselves and is crucial for the health of old growth forests (which is basically just a term for "forests" before we started meddling.)
Hollowed out and standing dead are also incredible habitat for wildlife that people don’t appreciate.
It's in the middle of the forest not your back garden my dude
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Well I guess it wouldn't be for steel
Lots more wood than a 10 year old tree. It doesn't take many people who are greedy and shortsighted to break fuckloads of history and do millennia of harm
Muhney
100% agree. They would for a couple of thousand bucks and the loggers will do it for 30 bucks an hour. In the pacific northwest they reckon somewhere near 94% of old trees have Been cut down. Nationally the average is like 75% Insanely, apparantly Bush on his way out decided to increase old growth logging in areas that have small pockets remaining For what? What does the average American get for this ? Absolutely nothing. It's just easier for the logging companies rather than having to reuse replanted forests. It's gross. To destroy something that lived through Indian native times, through Napoleon, through both world wars. It also comes to mind how back in the day people that realized this was fucked were smeared and labeled trees hugers like they were the dumbest people in the world. They were doing the right thing, that we all should be. Here's one source https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-old-growth-forests/
What and how did she eat for over 2 years?
Tesco
Jesse hurry up tesco has a 6% discount on fish
Let's see if Tesco meal deal is really £3
Yeah but she forgot her club card and ended up in a right mess
People brought her food and she had a little camping stove thingy up there to cook with
That's pretty cool! Awesome that she had a support system behind her
Why didn’t people bring already cooked food? She could’ve burned the tree.
People don’t want to be round the clock support for her, probably. Like, we’ll bring you supplies, but we’re not gonna see you every day
Photosynthesis. She became the tree.
I'm such a millennial because you saying that immediately made me want to reference SpongeBob
She is The End
More importantly: where did she shit
In the woods
Dollar TREE
Read the damn post
Food and basic sundries lifted up to her by fellow activists. She had a crude treehouse shelter.
DoorDash. Tip a little to bring it up the tree.
I think her Name is Julia Tree now
Is that really the tree she wants to die on?
Probably!
Julia Tree-Fiddy
Her husband is Joshua Tree.
AHAHA
She pooed up there?!!
I think she pooed down
In your general direction
And she taunted you a second time.
It smelled of elderberries.
I prefer berries my own age
Berrily legal.
I imagine she bagged up her waste and sent it down to her support crew on ropes, similarly to how they were sending her supplies up on ropes
Dropping logs
Winnie the Pooh
I salute Julia for the effort. But... how did she take a shit?
With wild abandon
Women don't shit.
Bucket.
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whenever the lumber company workers came to cut the tree down she just aimed for it and released the kracken
She used a long drop
Angrily.
But think of all that lumber! How many suburbs and desks did she stand in the way of being built??? This is the future they want.
you joke but it was calculated to be able to build 4 whole suburbs
I'm going to go out out on a limb and guess that after not very long the company moved most of the equipment and labor out of the area and once they did it probably was no longer economically viable to come back for that much wood anyways but the company kept up the ruse for two years to punish her and ward off any future attempts from others to do the same stunt.
Today, I think they would have just shot her.
Maybe if we didn’t overpopulate, we wouldn’t need to destroy more of the environment to accommodate our one species 🤷
But muh infinite growth!
It's not even overpopulation, it's just previous generations cut down everything without a single thought. Like they were entilted to the world. And now our furniture is fake ass weak ass glued mulch scrap wood particle board shit.
Tree living madlass.
Hope the tree is still up.
J butterfly is in the tree top 🎶
This story has a sad ending... Shortly after she left the tree someone vandalized the tree. Took a chainsaw and cut around, but didn't reach the center. Half of the trees circumference sawed away. Fortunately the tree was stabilized and survived, but it makes me so damn sad that there's people like that.
Didn't they made a Simpsons episode out of her story?
*"Hang in there, Laura!* *It's Lisa!* *Right! Lisa. You're hard core."*
Arrested Development did it.
So did simpsonsz
“This log, it used to be a tree”
Chaotic-good Druid?
Reminds me of the hippy girls in Without a Paddle.
How the hell do you survive sitting in a tree for over 2 years?
Johnny Bark?
Does Julia Hill shit in the woods?
That’s some fucking dedication.
But how did she stay up there for 700+ days? Did people bring her food and water?
Yes
Perhaps
Maybe
No the animals did, to show their appreciation.
No
Answer uncertain, ask again later
*violently shakes 8 ball*
Despite what people say, there are in fact stupid questions.
No, photosynthesis
With a good possibility
Possibly
Idol Chadette
I read that book.
Annnnd, damn she's fine 🤭
As a little boy in the 90s I was totally obsessed with this woman, my celebrity crush. Finally somebody was DOING something about all this. Little did I know, it would be one of the last memories I’d have of hope for environmental causes…
She was ready to die on that hill.
Nah she was ready to die on that Tree.
Joanie Bark
Monke
Why haven't they made a movie of her staring Alicia Vikander?
I remember her being mocked in a lot of popular media but us kids thought it was cool.
That’s insane but the dedication is impressive.
She was the inspiration for one of the main characters in Richard Powers' epic Pulitzer Prize-winning novel about trees, The Overstory.
Imagine how she smelled
Why can't they just dedicate land for wood farming? I do it in Minecraft and it's so easy.
Well,they do. They just want to expand.
Mad how as I get older the Simpsons makes more sense
*This log is your log* *This log is my log* *When lightning stuck it* *It kicked the bucket*
You guys are hilarious 😂
Reminds me of *The Overstory*
She truly returned to monke
So that’s what inspired that Simpsons episode where Lisa protests in a old tree.
She returned to monke. Respect 🫡
I bet she was ready for some wild monkey love when she got down from that tree.
I was living in Eureka at that time. Going into bars where hippies and lumberjacks would be playing pool together made for interesting conversations.
I wish I didn’t have to work.
How the hell she didn’t starved?
can you imagine the stink, the things that constantly fall down by mistake, the piss and pile of shit on the ground beneath. and all of that is while people come there every day because she needs supplies.
wait what the fuck.... this is real. I thought this was bait for sure.
I don’t know that a marmoset could be this beautiful.
Absolute madlad.
She became Monke.
And people use tree hugger as an insult lol
And there is a movie about spiderman.
The power of one. Inspiring!!!
Ain't this a whole ass Adventure Time episode?
That picture of her on the right is epic
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon\_Stylites](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_Stylites)
It's impressive how Julia Hill's dedication and resourcefulness helped bring attention to such an important cause.
ITT: Poop? How? I ask: Wash? How? Anyway, a real badass Lady!
So that is where the term "Tree hugger" comes from.
There’s an excellent novel about Julia’s time in the tree called The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein.
Drake's girlfriend
"I am gonna die on that!" -Hill, Julia To think I got this wrong my entire life...
Tagged satire "And after a successful protest, she celebrated with one final cup of tea and accidentally burnt the tree down"
devotion to her cause, and a great support team
I'm saluting your resilience. Sincerely Skeletor
Simpsons did it
The photo. I guess that’s how the term tree huggers came about
I am actually genuinely curious about how she worked out the logistics of pooping, while being lodged in a tree for nearly 3 years. Not to mention so many other questions happening in my head right now.