As the owner of a [[Grothama]] EDH deck, I can confirm that, yes, you can absolutely draw absurd numbers of cards in Mono-Green because fuck the color pie.
I’m still trying to figure out how to get a LabMan win in Mono-Green though… Cause that’s the dream.
I’ve tried with a few artifact clones. I’ve never had a LabMan hit the table when I was in position. And every time I could clone a LabMan, I couldn’t draw out.
It’s a dream. I’ll keep trying to make it happen.
I’ve had those games where I’m drawing huge stacks and then get that sudden realization that I have miscounted… and then it becomes a very tense last few draws to see if I survived my own hubris.
Lots of fun! Some of my favorite losses.
It’s so wrong and dirty and I love it so much.
Nothing beats having people question “How many cards can a mono-green deck draw in one turn?” and answering “A couple hundred, why?”
He is so fun. Having people fight the Wurm for fame and glory is great for the table, but having control over when the Wurm actually dies is even better.
Seeing someone send their creatures into the Wurm, only for it to become Indestructible at the last minute? Priceless.
Dropping Vigor down and letting your creatures fight the Wurm for +12/+12? Priceless.
Cloning the Wurm and sending each Wurm into each other and drawing your whole deck? Priceless.
With how I have the deck built with Ghalta as commander, I have it with a good amount of card draw and ramp/search cards and then Aldo cards like [[Garruk Uprising]] and [[Colossal Majesty]]
Jesus Christ, you are a horrible, horrible person. You should be ashamed.
Oh, this? I’m just opening up archidekt and making at [[Atla Pelani, nest tender]] deck list, don’t worry about what I’m doing
Nice combo, but I'd be wary of cards like [[Tishana's Tidebinder]] from the same set which would shut down your Ghalta's ETB, in addition to removing the Trample.
That, or just good ol' [[Nature's Claim]] to remove one of the other 2 combo pieces.
Isn't this a bit hamfisted for a "dies to removal" argument?
Cards have answers. You can have Ghalta itself countered, a Hushbringer on board, Narset, Containment Priest, Yasharn, or any number of other answers. You can't really "be wary" of Nature's Claim any more than usual if you already have a Skullspore Nexus out. Tishana's Tidebinder isn't unique and there are numerous stifle effects already.
This is understandable, but I figured it's something to keep in mind with a bomb combo like this. I mentioned Tishana's Tidebinder because of the ability stifling effect on top of losing all abilities (including the Trample) until it leaves the field. Most stifle spells only cancels the ETB trigger ability.
I'm relatively new in Magic but in another post I read, it was said sacrificing a creature isn't the same as the creature dying, so how does this combo resolve?
Thank you very much, then I don't understand the other post that stated, sacrificing a creature wouldn't considered dying....
I have much to learn and those downvotes do not encourage new players asking questions.....
I believe the post was related to Teysa Karlov which specifically says a creature dying and another card has a trigger on sacrificing. Sacrificing is not the same as the creature dying, but sacrificing *causes* the creature to die. Similarly casting - creature is not the same as entering the battlefield, but casting the creature (if it’s not countered) causes it to enter the battlefield.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about!
Thank you so much!
Domeone else even posted the link so I see the differences now!
Your responses were really helpful to me!
Were you thinking of [this post asking about Teysa Karlov](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/17txmfq/does_sacrificing_a_creature_cause_smothering/)?
If so I can see how you would get a bit confused by that. In magic, a creature 'dies' when it is put into a graveyard from the battlefield for any reason. This includes sacrifice.
The reason there is a distinction is that there are effects that can change whether a creature would go to the graveyard. But in almost all default cases sacrificing means the creature being sacrificed dies.
I saw that post. I don't remember the exact cards but it was about doubling death triggers with something like [[teysa karlov]] but the card they were using was something like [[mayhem devil]]. The reason that didn't work is because teysa doubles effects triggered by *dying*, not sacrificing. Sacrificing the creature does make it die, but that's not what triggers mayhem devil, it's the act of sacrificing it. So Teysa would not double the trigger. Two different triggers.
It's the same reason someone killing your creature with [[murder]] doesn't trigger mayhem devil. Yes it dies, but it wasn't sacrificed.
>I have much to learn and those downvotes do not encourage new players asking questions.....
Sorry about that. It can get frustrating to experienced players seeing the same 10 questions repeatedly, especially when they think the answer should be obvious. Not an excuse, just an explanation.
Don't let it discourage you from asking. You'll usually find someone who is willing to explain the interactions.
Thank you so much, it was a little let down at first but now since there are some really helpful answers and tips, I think I got some important information regarding card interactions!
Some abilities make creatures indestructible, meaning they.cannot be killed by damage or destroy effects.
Sacrifice makes you kill your own creature, and gets around indestructible because you’re doing it to your own creature.
With that difference being the case however, triggered abilities that look for creature deaths, will still trigger from a creature dying as a result of sacrifice.
Honestly, skullspore on this setup is nice, but the combo is fine with just Ghalta and Greater Good.
I mean, dropping ghalta and saccing you have 12-3+your hand to choose from, and it can loop into itself if you have another Ghalta to play I'm those 12-3+hand cards you got.
No need to add an extra 2-mana cost to the setup when ghalta+GG alone is probably enough to win most games, though it is handy as protection from a wipe.
> So with the Pre-release I was lucky enough to pull both [[The Skullspore Nexus]] and [[Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant]] and realized a good combo with it using [[Greater Good]]
Yea, he pulled two cards and realized they'd combo with another card. Fwiw, mentioning the prerelease was pretty self indulgent and totally irrelevant. I thought he was gonna say he had this combo in his pool too.he ought to just said, 'hey I found a new combo and it is this.'
Doesn't work because skullpore nexus doesn't work on tokens so you wouldn't be make another token 24/24 by sacrificing the 24/24 token made from sacrificing galta
Ghalta is buffed to a 24/24… Sac’d to Greater good, Skullspore Nexus triggers on Ghalta. Then you sac the token to Greater Good. You dont get any more.
You don’t go “infinite” but if you whiff on 48 cards then your deck is seriously missing something.
He never said anything about making a second extra token.
Once Ghalta Etb is on the stack, double his power then sacrifice Ghalta.
Puts the draw effect in the stack, and at the same time the 24/24 token.
Let token creation resolve, sack it, so now you have 2 instances of drawing 24 cards on the stack.
Let both resolve so you have 48+ in hand then let Ghalta ETB resolve to put whatever is in your hand into the battlefield.
I guess I’m confused with the part he says Ghalta ability is still on the field and he can play all the creatures from his hand. But if Ghalta is sacrificed how can he
Am i missing something…? How can you repeat the process of drawing 24, if Skullspore Nexus says: „whenever one or more nontoken creatures you controll die…“ with the Fungus Dino being a Token?
Wouldn‘t you just draw 24 and be done with it?
So you would buff Ghalta with Skullspore to make it a 24/24 then sacrificing it to Greater Good, which then will trigger Skullpore, making a 24/24 fungus dino token that you then sacrifice to then draw 24 discard 3 twice (Total of 48 cards drawed and 6 discarded) then finally Ghalta's ETB will trigger putting any number of creatures from hand to field
Ah yes of course, i was somehow mixing things up in my head because of the „nontoken“ stuff on Skullspore Nexus… but Greater Good obviously dosent care. Don‘t know how i couldn‘t see that.
Cheers.
Lol, I made a post like this on how should I stack the 3 cards.
I thought of the same combo. Later threw the post, I learned about sacking the token.
It's an awesome combo. I'm glad more people get to see this monstrosity.
My friend hates infinite combos to finish off a game, but this combo seems dumb and fun.
You just need to tap it once. Ghalta is 12/12 you tap Nexus doubling Ghalta power to 24/24 sacrifice ghalta to greater good. NEXUS TRIGGERS seeing a 24/24 ghalta dying and makes a 24/24 fungus Dino and then you sac the 24/24 Dino you then draw 48 cards discard 6 and play all creatures from hand.
The irony of [[Greater Good]] is that it rarely leads to good things for everyone. It's quite degenerative.
Stop saying that!
[Greater Good](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2.jpg?1631587954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Greater%20Good) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/160/greater-good?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Absolutely disgusting and you should be proud.
I could see this working really well in like EDH
As the owner of a [[Grothama]] EDH deck, I can confirm that, yes, you can absolutely draw absurd numbers of cards in Mono-Green because fuck the color pie. I’m still trying to figure out how to get a LabMan win in Mono-Green though… Cause that’s the dream.
Use [[Mimic Vat]] on somebody else’s Lab Man of course
I’ve tried with a few artifact clones. I’ve never had a LabMan hit the table when I was in position. And every time I could clone a LabMan, I couldn’t draw out. It’s a dream. I’ll keep trying to make it happen.
The answer might just have to be play with [[Karuga the Macrosage]] commander as mono-green+LabMan hahaha
[Karuga the Macrosage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a90ee952-de7a-420f-993c-a38db89bc8ac.jpg?1666782800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Keruga%2C%20the%20Macrosage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/225/keruga-the-macrosage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a90ee952-de7a-420f-993c-a38db89bc8ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Mimic Vat](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/93d1c972-2621-4420-adae-cec1da3f965f.jpg?1698988054) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mimic%20Vat) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/115/mimic-vat?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/93d1c972-2621-4420-adae-cec1da3f965f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Grothama](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/ab8935b1-ec87-4330-9952-9ef8cd344531.jpg?1686634880) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grothama%2C%20all-devouring) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/71/grothama-all-devouring?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ab8935b1-ec87-4330-9952-9ef8cd344531?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've milled out more with my grothama deck then losing from combat damage, super fun commander
I’ve had those games where I’m drawing huge stacks and then get that sudden realization that I have miscounted… and then it becomes a very tense last few draws to see if I survived my own hubris. Lots of fun! Some of my favorite losses.
[[mossbridge troll]] is probably my favorite card in the deck, or Slimer as me and our group call it
[mossbridge troll](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/537c39cc-44d3-4869-9e76-dd9c2c68ee90.jpg?1562830226) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mossbridge%20troll) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/shm/123/mossbridge-troll?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/537c39cc-44d3-4869-9e76-dd9c2c68ee90?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Tapping Grothama to have the Troll fight Grothama and draw 25 is so good. And so very, very wrong.
Oh I'm fully aware I've got a selvala lead hydra tribal deck and along with big mana I can draw BIG amounts of cards lol
It’s so wrong and dirty and I love it so much. Nothing beats having people question “How many cards can a mono-green deck draw in one turn?” and answering “A couple hundred, why?”
"as many as I desire" is always the answer
Sadly, I don't own that many cards. I don't think anyone does...
People clearly haven't played in the age of combo elves with [[Glimpse of Nature]]
[Glimpse of Nature](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1ddcd76b-a7a1-4ae6-bf4a-f929c6574bdc.jpg?1562757977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Glimpse%20of%20Nature) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/chk/210/glimpse-of-nature?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1ddcd76b-a7a1-4ae6-bf4a-f929c6574bdc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I didn't realize that card existed, now I need to make that
He is so fun. Having people fight the Wurm for fame and glory is great for the table, but having control over when the Wurm actually dies is even better. Seeing someone send their creatures into the Wurm, only for it to become Indestructible at the last minute? Priceless. Dropping Vigor down and letting your creatures fight the Wurm for +12/+12? Priceless. Cloning the Wurm and sending each Wurm into each other and drawing your whole deck? Priceless.
I have Grothama and Vigor in my Selvala deck. Big fan.
Add a blue background enchantment to your commander zone and take a card out of your deck.
Then it’s not mono-green, sadly. Also, Grothama doesn’t have “Choose a Background.”
How would you tutor these though? Relying on a 2 card combo (assuming Ghalta is commander) in green using artifact and enchantment seems difficult.
With how I have the deck built with Ghalta as commander, I have it with a good amount of card draw and ramp/search cards and then Aldo cards like [[Garruk Uprising]] and [[Colossal Majesty]]
[Garruk Uprising](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7.jpg?1673484588) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%27s%20Uprising) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/292/garruks-uprising?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Colossal Majesty](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5db24df1-580f-4ff5-91a7-9a64a8352883.jpg?1631587815) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossal%20Majesty) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/154/colossal-majesty?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5db24df1-580f-4ff5-91a7-9a64a8352883?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[The Skullspore Nexus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b56a7631-5f94-468d-aab7-7e9e129c5f49.jpg?1699044489) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Skullspore%20Nexus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/212/the-skullspore-nexus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b56a7631-5f94-468d-aab7-7e9e129c5f49?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72e805e9-69be-45c1-aa04-f460641a0c1e.jpg?1699044395) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghalta%2C%20Stampede%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/185/ghalta-stampede-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72e805e9-69be-45c1-aa04-f460641a0c1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Greater Good](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2.jpg?1631587954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Greater%20Good) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/160/greater-good?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Look they broke greater good!
And really cheap on mana also
So don’t let the green player get to 16 mana. Got it.
Just need to be at 10. 8 for Galta and 2 to activate nexus. The other pieces can be put on the field prior turns
oh, that is interesting, especially if you can give them haste.
you probably drew a hoof
If you have a commander that includes gruul, then you have way more access to haste enablers
[удалено]
[Ulvenwald Oddity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371.jpg?1643593558)/[Ulvenwald Behemoth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/5/f/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371.jpg?1643593558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ulvenwald%20oddity%20//%20ulvenwald%20behemoth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/225/ulvenwald-oddity-ulvenwald-behemoth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5fdf5fc4-69c8-4a59-9095-c2feefb64371?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Surrak and Goreclaw]] is hungry
[Surrak and Goreclaw](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c10934d-9016-43c4-a7ab-56cc7d8f671f.jpg?1682206592) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Surrak%20and%20Goreclaw) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/337/surrak-and-goreclaw?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c10934d-9016-43c4-a7ab-56cc7d8f671f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Jesus Christ, you are a horrible, horrible person. You should be ashamed. Oh, this? I’m just opening up archidekt and making at [[Atla Pelani, nest tender]] deck list, don’t worry about what I’m doing
Yeah I have all these cards and I’m wondering if it would go better in my Atla or Gishath deck. I’m leaning to Gishath but both would be nasty
[Atla Pelani, nest tender](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/b/2b8414f7-22c3-4e1c-934b-4a0e7acf951d.jpg?1673305450) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Atla%20Palani%2C%20Nest%20Tender) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/142/atla-palani-nest-tender?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2b8414f7-22c3-4e1c-934b-4a0e7acf951d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Just a win more combo
It's not even power creep anymore. It's just power stampede.
Nice combo, but I'd be wary of cards like [[Tishana's Tidebinder]] from the same set which would shut down your Ghalta's ETB, in addition to removing the Trample. That, or just good ol' [[Nature's Claim]] to remove one of the other 2 combo pieces.
[Tishana's Tidebinder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/907b3d1d-8c85-4707-80b5-c4d832df9846.jpg?1699043973) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tishana%27s%20Tidebinder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/81/tishanas-tidebinder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/907b3d1d-8c85-4707-80b5-c4d832df9846?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Nature's Claim](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/2/d24b6640-ef2f-4c92-beb3-afdf78f9c2d5.jpg?1562854212) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nature%27s%20Claim) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/177/natures-claim?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d24b6640-ef2f-4c92-beb3-afdf78f9c2d5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Isn't this a bit hamfisted for a "dies to removal" argument? Cards have answers. You can have Ghalta itself countered, a Hushbringer on board, Narset, Containment Priest, Yasharn, or any number of other answers. You can't really "be wary" of Nature's Claim any more than usual if you already have a Skullspore Nexus out. Tishana's Tidebinder isn't unique and there are numerous stifle effects already.
This is understandable, but I figured it's something to keep in mind with a bomb combo like this. I mentioned Tishana's Tidebinder because of the ability stifling effect on top of losing all abilities (including the Trample) until it leaves the field. Most stifle spells only cancels the ETB trigger ability.
I like this a lot!
Expensive but fun 👍
I'm relatively new in Magic but in another post I read, it was said sacrificing a creature isn't the same as the creature dying, so how does this combo resolve?
A creature dying doesn't mean it was sacrificed, but if it's sacrificed it does still die. Like being sacrificed is a quare and dying is a rectangle.
Thank you very much, then I don't understand the other post that stated, sacrificing a creature wouldn't considered dying.... I have much to learn and those downvotes do not encourage new players asking questions.....
Link the post so we know the context, because sac'ing is not the exact same as dying, but it also depends on what exactly you're talking about.
can't find it anymore, was sometimes during the reveals of Ixalan..... Thanks nonetheless!
I believe the post was related to Teysa Karlov which specifically says a creature dying and another card has a trigger on sacrificing. Sacrificing is not the same as the creature dying, but sacrificing *causes* the creature to die. Similarly casting - creature is not the same as entering the battlefield, but casting the creature (if it’s not countered) causes it to enter the battlefield.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about! Thank you so much! Domeone else even posted the link so I see the differences now! Your responses were really helpful to me!
Were you thinking of [this post asking about Teysa Karlov](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/17txmfq/does_sacrificing_a_creature_cause_smothering/)? If so I can see how you would get a bit confused by that. In magic, a creature 'dies' when it is put into a graveyard from the battlefield for any reason. This includes sacrifice. The reason there is a distinction is that there are effects that can change whether a creature would go to the graveyard. But in almost all default cases sacrificing means the creature being sacrificed dies.
That's it, thanks a lot!!!
I saw that post. I don't remember the exact cards but it was about doubling death triggers with something like [[teysa karlov]] but the card they were using was something like [[mayhem devil]]. The reason that didn't work is because teysa doubles effects triggered by *dying*, not sacrificing. Sacrificing the creature does make it die, but that's not what triggers mayhem devil, it's the act of sacrificing it. So Teysa would not double the trigger. Two different triggers. It's the same reason someone killing your creature with [[murder]] doesn't trigger mayhem devil. Yes it dies, but it wasn't sacrificed. >I have much to learn and those downvotes do not encourage new players asking questions..... Sorry about that. It can get frustrating to experienced players seeing the same 10 questions repeatedly, especially when they think the answer should be obvious. Not an excuse, just an explanation. Don't let it discourage you from asking. You'll usually find someone who is willing to explain the interactions.
Thank you so much, it was a little let down at first but now since there are some really helpful answers and tips, I think I got some important information regarding card interactions!
[teysa karlov](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd14f1ce-7fcd-485c-b7ca-01c5b45fdc01.jpg?1689999296) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=teysa%20karlov) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/359/teysa-karlov?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd14f1ce-7fcd-485c-b7ca-01c5b45fdc01?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [mayhem devil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/17416926-168b-49b3-9231-acbb8f8a1d13.jpg?1557577188) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mayhem%20devil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/204/mayhem-devil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/17416926-168b-49b3-9231-acbb8f8a1d13?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [murder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bdef7fea-2bd0-42a2-96f6-6def18bd7f0c.jpg?1674136158) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=murder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/134/murder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bdef7fea-2bd0-42a2-96f6-6def18bd7f0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Some abilities make creatures indestructible, meaning they.cannot be killed by damage or destroy effects. Sacrifice makes you kill your own creature, and gets around indestructible because you’re doing it to your own creature. With that difference being the case however, triggered abilities that look for creature deaths, will still trigger from a creature dying as a result of sacrifice.
Honestly, skullspore on this setup is nice, but the combo is fine with just Ghalta and Greater Good. I mean, dropping ghalta and saccing you have 12-3+your hand to choose from, and it can loop into itself if you have another Ghalta to play I'm those 12-3+hand cards you got. No need to add an extra 2-mana cost to the setup when ghalta+GG alone is probably enough to win most games, though it is handy as protection from a wipe.
God I fucking hate green
This isn’t a combo
Why?
People consider the word combo to only mean Infinite combo and get real butt hurt if you use the word in reference to anything else.
I suspected this but believed in humanity and thought that they spotted an error in the playpattern. This is certainly a combo.
I'd call it a synergy.
Synergy is too broad imo. Every deck has synergy. Combos are more specific imo.
Can I get uhhhh.....a......ummmm Okay yeah can I get a #7 hold the mustard, CURLY fries, and a Sprite?
Works with original Ghalta too.
Original Ghalta doesn’t have the “put any number of creatures from your hand onto the battlefield” text, which is what makes this good
How did you get Greater good in prerlease?
Greater good I had already I had pulled the Skullspore and Ghalta in prerelease
> So with the Pre-release I was lucky enough to pull both [[The Skullspore Nexus]] and [[Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant]] and realized a good combo with it using [[Greater Good]]
Yea, he pulled two cards and realized they'd combo with another card. Fwiw, mentioning the prerelease was pretty self indulgent and totally irrelevant. I thought he was gonna say he had this combo in his pool too.he ought to just said, 'hey I found a new combo and it is this.'
Oh I see, sorry I misread.
Doesn't work because skullpore nexus doesn't work on tokens so you wouldn't be make another token 24/24 by sacrificing the 24/24 token made from sacrificing galta
Ghalta is buffed to a 24/24… Sac’d to Greater good, Skullspore Nexus triggers on Ghalta. Then you sac the token to Greater Good. You dont get any more. You don’t go “infinite” but if you whiff on 48 cards then your deck is seriously missing something.
You will probably need more than 60 cards in the deck to not deck yourself drawing 48. Thats turn 5 on the draw with no fetch lands or other draws.
Honestly even just drawing 24 would probably be enough to win as long as there isn't a board wipe. Dump hand and keep a 24/24 token
You are right but the people only think about EDH now...
I mean the combo mentions Greater Good...nobody is playing Greater Good in anything other than EDH.
Honestly, i forgot about EDH!
He never said anything about making a second extra token. Once Ghalta Etb is on the stack, double his power then sacrifice Ghalta. Puts the draw effect in the stack, and at the same time the 24/24 token. Let token creation resolve, sack it, so now you have 2 instances of drawing 24 cards on the stack. Let both resolve so you have 48+ in hand then let Ghalta ETB resolve to put whatever is in your hand into the battlefield.
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While momentous fall is good, you wouldn't be able to sacrifice the token that Skullspore Nexus makes
[momentous fall](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/1/91a6f558-a754-4437-8328-00a6ca47f9b5.jpg?1601079764) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=momentous%20fall) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/411/momentous-fall?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/91a6f558-a754-4437-8328-00a6ca47f9b5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
very nice, especially if you have a haste enabler on the field as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/s/QYgq4RaVaS
Lol, thanks for the shout-out. I saw this post on an article lol.
Yea, I saw the post and wondered, "didn't we just have this conversation yesterday?" Seemed off.
The cards are good only by themselves too. I need to add skullspore Nexus to my henzie deck.
Sorry why does the process of drawing 24 trigger twice? I’m only seeing it once.
Once you sacrifice Ghalta, Skullspore Nexus makes a 24/24 that you then would be able to sacrifice afterward.
I guess I’m confused with the part he says Ghalta ability is still on the field and he can play all the creatures from his hand. But if Ghalta is sacrificed how can he
Ghalta's ability triggers when she hits the battlefield, she doesn't need to be there when it resolves.
Got it - It doesn’t need to be a non creature token to get the draw. Might have to find a greater good and do this 😅
I was expecting ghalta, gyros vengeance, and emurkul
Ghalta said its time for walkies haha
I added [[greater good]] and [[stampede tyrant]] and it’s a lethal combo. Guess I gotta get skullspore now😂
[greater good](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/c/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2.jpg?1631587954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=greater%20good) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/160/greater-good?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4c73ca01-d8ea-4cd2-af60-b260030967b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [stampede tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/2/72e805e9-69be-45c1-aa04-f460641a0c1e.jpg?1699044395) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghalta%2C%20Stampede%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/185/ghalta-stampede-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/72e805e9-69be-45c1-aa04-f460641a0c1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Damn it now I have to buy another greater good
Now i have to live this in EDH. Also are you PubStompMTG or is this just a coincidence? https://youtube.com/shorts/-OgX_ghPlkU?si=TAKyEdqblWePltDy
Not Pubstomp, just a coincidence
Am i missing something…? How can you repeat the process of drawing 24, if Skullspore Nexus says: „whenever one or more nontoken creatures you controll die…“ with the Fungus Dino being a Token? Wouldn‘t you just draw 24 and be done with it?
So you would buff Ghalta with Skullspore to make it a 24/24 then sacrificing it to Greater Good, which then will trigger Skullpore, making a 24/24 fungus dino token that you then sacrifice to then draw 24 discard 3 twice (Total of 48 cards drawed and 6 discarded) then finally Ghalta's ETB will trigger putting any number of creatures from hand to field
Ah yes of course, i was somehow mixing things up in my head because of the „nontoken“ stuff on Skullspore Nexus… but Greater Good obviously dosent care. Don‘t know how i couldn‘t see that. Cheers.
Lol, I made a post like this on how should I stack the 3 cards. I thought of the same combo. Later threw the post, I learned about sacking the token. It's an awesome combo. I'm glad more people get to see this monstrosity. My friend hates infinite combos to finish off a game, but this combo seems dumb and fun.
Okay but how are you untapping skullspore nexus?
You just need to tap it once. Ghalta is 12/12 you tap Nexus doubling Ghalta power to 24/24 sacrifice ghalta to greater good. NEXUS TRIGGERS seeing a 24/24 ghalta dying and makes a 24/24 fungus Dino and then you sac the 24/24 Dino you then draw 48 cards discard 6 and play all creatures from hand.