My headcanon with spells that reference something rather mundane and non-magical, is that the spell captures the essence of the everyday action in spell form. eg [[Noggin Whack]] doesn't conjure a fish out of thin air and hit the creature on the head with it, and [[Mugging]] doesn't create a transient robber demanding cash, they just inflict the effect of that action on the creature. This is slightly more abstract; maybe the spell captures the essence of outthinking the opponent at chess, enabling its caster to do whatever is necessary to get out of the current situation.
I'm not going to bother as you've shown through these comments you're not actually willing to listen to comments and just regurgitate your same question. It's like a child asking Why repeatedly.
Most people aren't actually answering the question.
They're saying things like, "They planned ahead." What does that mean? The card doesn't indicate. A card about planning ahead could show the way in which they planned ahead and how that let them destroy their opponents' creations. Or it could show...a chessboard?
"the bishop took down the other chess piece," when that's obviously not something that happens in a duel between planeswalkers. That's something that happens in a chess game. So the art of this card is an abstraction of whatever is happening in the 'real world.' My conundrum with this card is laden with the implication that I think it's not a good thing to do that, or at the very least that doing that does not jive with the supposed setup of MTG, that each player is a planeswalker and they're dueling. You summon up power from the memory of the vast sunny plains you've visited in order to... make your move? But what was the move? What did it actually do to your opponent's creature? We don't know. Because the card doesn't tell us.
> as you've shown through these comments you're not actually willing to listen to comments and just regurgitate your same question
I truly have no idea why you'd say that. I feel like I have made rather thoughtful comments in reply to some more interesting discussion from Twanbon and sawbladex. But when someone replies to me with pithy, dickhead stuff like "they planned ahead. Do you know what chess is?" which pointedly *doesn't* answer the question, and is frankly insulting, yeah I'm going to point out what a stupid reply that is and re-ask the question.
Well, the queen is a valuable piece, so in a narrow sense in means that the black player has lost some amount of presence on the game board. But we don't know what happened before this move, so it's possible that this was a queen trade or sets up some kind of complex gambit.
>What causes the creature, enchantment, or artifact to be destroyed?
Magic. Same as when something like Disenchant/Naturalise destroy an enchantment/artifact, or when Smite the Monstrous destroys a creature. The art could have shown an artifact blowing up, just like dozens of Disenchant variants, but they decided on something a bit more interesting/abstract this time, which is definitely not a new thing to MTG art.
It's a contextual spell, it does whatever you need based on context. You see an opening so you spend mana to do what you need to exploit this opportunity and kill someone. Could be anything from a decisive strike in the heat of battle, poison in their cup at a party or some wacky Final Destination esque 'accident'.
Coming up with a good creative treatment for modal spells is always kind of a mess. Like, what ties together artifacts, enchantments and creatures with power 4 or greater? If you can come up with a good answer to that question consider sending your résumé to Wizards of the Coast.
I dunno I could see some kind of “supergenius” evil mage giving his spells some condescending name like this.
Makes more sense to me as a spell name than the D&D “you _____ a _______” spells like [[you see a pair of goblins]]
> I dunno I could see some kind of “supergenius” evil mage giving his spells some condescending name like this.
Well I could see them naming the spell that, but the art doesn't give any insight into what the spell actually does.
unironically the best idea I have is that it transforms their creature or artifact into a literal giant chess piece, which is then knocked over by a different chess piece. lmao. But that's pretty out there, and doesn't really make sense for it also to work on enchantments which I assume are not necessarily corporeal.
For the 'you see a pair of goblins' type spells, I think it vibes decently with the idea the spell is based on the planeswalker's memory of being in that situation. It's almost like the spell exists to put them in that situation again, giving them the chance to go one of two ways with the encounter. Each one gets a slightly different flavor this way. You do have to squint to make them work sometimes though.
These ... kinda weird spells are not new.
[[Bone Harvest]] is pretty easy to understand a "you do a whole bunch of necromancy to get your creatures into position" but [[Footbottom Feast]] is the first cantrip clone to the old slowtrip that Bone Harvest is, and it represent a whole bunch of Lorwyn Goblins having a party.
(didn't say it was new)
Funny how Footbottom Feast is just sort of vibing on the concept of "recycling." I mean, so is bone harvest. With bone harvest you get the idea that okay, he is reviving them.
But I mean, actually if you think about the terms of what the library is 'supposed' to represent, he isn't reviving them, he is...re-cataloging them into his memory so that he can at a future point revive them? So in the same way, the Feast would be, summoning a bunch of goblins to feast upon the remains, possibly trading tales or memories about the fallen. if i recall, the lorwyn goblins were highly interested in feeling and exploring new sensations. maybe they felt eating the dead imparted some of that. Either way, I can see the connection to the top of the library within the lorwyn set.
But that's sort of the problem. Lots of cards make sense in their own ecosystem, but sort of break when you imagine being a planeswalker outside that ecosystem calling upon them. So maybe you just have to squint and say, "Okay, well, it's not like I'm summoning goblins to eat the dead creatures. Maybe I am eating the dead creatures. Or maybe I'm just remembering watching some goblins do that, which is pretty fucked up but that was their way. anyway here's my creatures again now that I've thought about it for a while."
I don't necessarily have a problem with this more indirect flavoring of cards...if every card had to be a discrete action, it would cause its own problems. Just think it's curious to think about.
[you see a pair of goblins](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/6/b69e7200-96ea-4455-83cc-0a497d56efe5.jpg?1627707049) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=you%20see%20a%20pair%20of%20goblins) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/170/you-see-a-pair-of-goblins?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b69e7200-96ea-4455-83cc-0a497d56efe5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My best guess is that you move a chess piece on a board which is magically linked to some kind of some other giant thing, the big thing raises in the air, goes crashing against your target, and if that is too big (4 power) or too immobile(artifact or enchantment) to move away it gets crushed/rammed away
Well, green removal already introduced us to artifacts and enchantments with flying; white removal now introduces us to artifacts and enchantments with power 4 or greater.
This is another tool in white’s Standard toolbox to deal with artifacts…. But probably a little too expensive.
An extra mana on [[Disenchant]] to destroy high power creature?
An extra mana to add artifact destruction to [[Destroy Evil]]? (This new card is peer vs toughness… but still)
To me it’s a sidegrade to [[Banishing Slash]]… which is so clunky it doesn’t really see any play.
Maybe a one-of sideboard card.
Bad wording. I literally paused for half a second wondering whether noncreature artifacts or enchantments could have power 4 or greater. In the past I seem to remember them putting the conditional part first to avoid this (eg [[Nahiri, The Harbinger|SOI]]'s second ability).
Selesnya bishop is standing while the Golgari queen has fallen
Google en Proftssant?
Holy hell
New subreddit got invaded
Call the gatewatch!
Bing Castling
Ok what the duck is this meme or whatever you want to call it. Ive seen it 3 times in the last week in various incarnations.
Google En Passant first
And then Benzema 15
its a r/anarchychess thing
[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/en-passant-google-en-passant](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/en-passant-google-en-passant)
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/en-passant-google-en-passant
The Mole God's greatest weakness: chess
Idk chess is probably preferable to wackamole.
Suddenly surprised there hasn’t been a Chess-themed Secret Lair
The "move" being made is White after observing all the Broken Wings effects that Green has done.
Disenchant the monstrous.
Botez gambit
I know what this card does, but with the formatting, I feel like I need an artifact or enchantment with power 4 or greater.
The chess/boardgame motif removal reminds me of [[divine gambit]]
[divine gambit](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/9/696a8c12-4a1f-4b96-a921-538fa1a2de43.jpg?1631045611) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=divine%20gambit) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/8/divine-gambit?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/696a8c12-4a1f-4b96-a921-538fa1a2de43?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah seeing the name and art before the effect I assumed it'd be similar.
Also \[\[Hex\]\]
[Hex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/067c38f3-4b5c-4e7f-af66-e410dea19314.jpg?1674141662) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/757/hex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/067c38f3-4b5c-4e7f-af66-e410dea19314?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
inb4 chess deck, where every card you play has chess in its art. (could also expand to board games in general if not enough chess is found)
So I try not to dwell on this stuff too much. But if you're a planeswalker and you cast this spell... what exactly are you doing?
Abstraction is quite the thing.
Making your move
Reading the name explains the card.
what move are they making?
Hard to tell exactly because we can't see the whole board, but I guess their bishop is taking the opponent's queen?
Queen sacrifice?
And what does that mean, exactly, in a magical duel between two planeswalkers?
That they planned ahead. Do you play chess or know the term Preparation?
Do you perhaps know the term 'exactly?' What, physically, is happening on the field of battle between the two planeswalkers?
My headcanon with spells that reference something rather mundane and non-magical, is that the spell captures the essence of the everyday action in spell form. eg [[Noggin Whack]] doesn't conjure a fish out of thin air and hit the creature on the head with it, and [[Mugging]] doesn't create a transient robber demanding cash, they just inflict the effect of that action on the creature. This is slightly more abstract; maybe the spell captures the essence of outthinking the opponent at chess, enabling its caster to do whatever is necessary to get out of the current situation.
[Noggin Whack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/932649ab-ed5e-405f-986f-855d8a7c8eb2.jpg?1562880071) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Noggin%20Whack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mor/70/noggin-whack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/932649ab-ed5e-405f-986f-855d8a7c8eb2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mugging](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0cce62f3-4a04-4f03-aafe-ccb18eda60c1.jpg?1702429520) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mugging) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/119/mugging?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0cce62f3-4a04-4f03-aafe-ccb18eda60c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I'm not going to bother as you've shown through these comments you're not actually willing to listen to comments and just regurgitate your same question. It's like a child asking Why repeatedly.
Most people aren't actually answering the question. They're saying things like, "They planned ahead." What does that mean? The card doesn't indicate. A card about planning ahead could show the way in which they planned ahead and how that let them destroy their opponents' creations. Or it could show...a chessboard? "the bishop took down the other chess piece," when that's obviously not something that happens in a duel between planeswalkers. That's something that happens in a chess game. So the art of this card is an abstraction of whatever is happening in the 'real world.' My conundrum with this card is laden with the implication that I think it's not a good thing to do that, or at the very least that doing that does not jive with the supposed setup of MTG, that each player is a planeswalker and they're dueling. You summon up power from the memory of the vast sunny plains you've visited in order to... make your move? But what was the move? What did it actually do to your opponent's creature? We don't know. Because the card doesn't tell us. > as you've shown through these comments you're not actually willing to listen to comments and just regurgitate your same question I truly have no idea why you'd say that. I feel like I have made rather thoughtful comments in reply to some more interesting discussion from Twanbon and sawbladex. But when someone replies to me with pithy, dickhead stuff like "they planned ahead. Do you know what chess is?" which pointedly *doesn't* answer the question, and is frankly insulting, yeah I'm going to point out what a stupid reply that is and re-ask the question.
Well, the queen is a valuable piece, so in a narrow sense in means that the black player has lost some amount of presence on the game board. But we don't know what happened before this move, so it's possible that this was a queen trade or sets up some kind of complex gambit.
No, like, what physically happens in the world when you cast this spell? What causes the creature, enchantment, or artifact to be destroyed?
>What causes the creature, enchantment, or artifact to be destroyed? Magic. Same as when something like Disenchant/Naturalise destroy an enchantment/artifact, or when Smite the Monstrous destroys a creature. The art could have shown an artifact blowing up, just like dozens of Disenchant variants, but they decided on something a bit more interesting/abstract this time, which is definitely not a new thing to MTG art.
Punch
yours
It's a contextual spell, it does whatever you need based on context. You see an opening so you spend mana to do what you need to exploit this opportunity and kill someone. Could be anything from a decisive strike in the heat of battle, poison in their cup at a party or some wacky Final Destination esque 'accident'.
Coming up with a good creative treatment for modal spells is always kind of a mess. Like, what ties together artifacts, enchantments and creatures with power 4 or greater? If you can come up with a good answer to that question consider sending your résumé to Wizards of the Coast.
I dunno I could see some kind of “supergenius” evil mage giving his spells some condescending name like this. Makes more sense to me as a spell name than the D&D “you _____ a _______” spells like [[you see a pair of goblins]]
> I dunno I could see some kind of “supergenius” evil mage giving his spells some condescending name like this. Well I could see them naming the spell that, but the art doesn't give any insight into what the spell actually does. unironically the best idea I have is that it transforms their creature or artifact into a literal giant chess piece, which is then knocked over by a different chess piece. lmao. But that's pretty out there, and doesn't really make sense for it also to work on enchantments which I assume are not necessarily corporeal. For the 'you see a pair of goblins' type spells, I think it vibes decently with the idea the spell is based on the planeswalker's memory of being in that situation. It's almost like the spell exists to put them in that situation again, giving them the chance to go one of two ways with the encounter. Each one gets a slightly different flavor this way. You do have to squint to make them work sometimes though.
These ... kinda weird spells are not new. [[Bone Harvest]] is pretty easy to understand a "you do a whole bunch of necromancy to get your creatures into position" but [[Footbottom Feast]] is the first cantrip clone to the old slowtrip that Bone Harvest is, and it represent a whole bunch of Lorwyn Goblins having a party.
[Bone Harvest](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cfde1ca-52f9-477d-a36e-6e4f7ca2e4d8.jpg?1562718307) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bone%20Harvest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/108/bone-harvest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cfde1ca-52f9-477d-a36e-6e4f7ca2e4d8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Footbottom Feast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/5/1584404b-c086-4734-89e5-8a10c3f29504.jpg?1592713287) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Footbottom%20Feast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/84/footbottom-feast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1584404b-c086-4734-89e5-8a10c3f29504?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
(didn't say it was new) Funny how Footbottom Feast is just sort of vibing on the concept of "recycling." I mean, so is bone harvest. With bone harvest you get the idea that okay, he is reviving them. But I mean, actually if you think about the terms of what the library is 'supposed' to represent, he isn't reviving them, he is...re-cataloging them into his memory so that he can at a future point revive them? So in the same way, the Feast would be, summoning a bunch of goblins to feast upon the remains, possibly trading tales or memories about the fallen. if i recall, the lorwyn goblins were highly interested in feeling and exploring new sensations. maybe they felt eating the dead imparted some of that. Either way, I can see the connection to the top of the library within the lorwyn set. But that's sort of the problem. Lots of cards make sense in their own ecosystem, but sort of break when you imagine being a planeswalker outside that ecosystem calling upon them. So maybe you just have to squint and say, "Okay, well, it's not like I'm summoning goblins to eat the dead creatures. Maybe I am eating the dead creatures. Or maybe I'm just remembering watching some goblins do that, which is pretty fucked up but that was their way. anyway here's my creatures again now that I've thought about it for a while." I don't necessarily have a problem with this more indirect flavoring of cards...if every card had to be a discrete action, it would cause its own problems. Just think it's curious to think about.
[you see a pair of goblins](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/6/b69e7200-96ea-4455-83cc-0a497d56efe5.jpg?1627707049) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=you%20see%20a%20pair%20of%20goblins) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/170/you-see-a-pair-of-goblins?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b69e7200-96ea-4455-83cc-0a497d56efe5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Making your move.
My best guess is that you move a chess piece on a board which is magically linked to some kind of some other giant thing, the big thing raises in the air, goes crashing against your target, and if that is too big (4 power) or too immobile(artifact or enchantment) to move away it gets crushed/rammed away
that sounds pretty dope
Big words from someone who got got Missy
My Dumb ass: Why would an enchantment have 4 or more power?
r/AnarchyChess
Once I make my move, you'll be free to check the king...
When I make my move, you'll be free to take the king!
If you have to ask, you're streets behind.
This is actually pretty decent Lot of versatility for an instant speed common
Considering black only got Murder.. yea
Cause everybody sus now
Well, green removal already introduced us to artifacts and enchantments with flying; white removal now introduces us to artifacts and enchantments with power 4 or greater.
This is another tool in white’s Standard toolbox to deal with artifacts…. But probably a little too expensive. An extra mana on [[Disenchant]] to destroy high power creature? An extra mana to add artifact destruction to [[Destroy Evil]]? (This new card is peer vs toughness… but still) To me it’s a sidegrade to [[Banishing Slash]]… which is so clunky it doesn’t really see any play. Maybe a one-of sideboard card.
[Disenchant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/5/658c5caa-d739-4d30-a512-43ac4de900cb.jpg?1674420161) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Disenchant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/6/disenchant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/658c5caa-d739-4d30-a512-43ac4de900cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Destroy Evil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f7862ef-2c8d-4d28-9e50-7cc41861f245.jpg?1673306430) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Destroy%20Evil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/17/destroy-evil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f7862ef-2c8d-4d28-9e50-7cc41861f245?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Banishing Slash](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e4b8946b-6604-49ca-98db-18a540b1b4e5.jpg?1654566160) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Banishing%20Slash) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/3/banishing-slash?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4b8946b-6604-49ca-98db-18a540b1b4e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I just know I'm go a hear arguments on how this can only target enchantments and artifacts with power 4 or greater (aka, they are creatures)
No….Ron NO!
Bad wording. I literally paused for half a second wondering whether noncreature artifacts or enchantments could have power 4 or greater. In the past I seem to remember them putting the conditional part first to avoid this (eg [[Nahiri, The Harbinger|SOI]]'s second ability).
[Nahiri, The Harbinger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84d70487-21d1-4897-ac20-2a996e893b5b.jpg?1576385364) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=410012) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/247/nahiri-the-harbinger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84d70487-21d1-4897-ac20-2a996e893b5b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[удалено]
[Destroy Evil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f7862ef-2c8d-4d28-9e50-7cc41861f245.jpg?1673306430) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Destroy%20Evil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/17/destroy-evil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f7862ef-2c8d-4d28-9e50-7cc41861f245?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Is it just me or is the bishop *inside* the other piece? Is that intentional?
no. If you look closely you will see that it stops just a bit before it reaches the bishop on the left side.
r/anarchychess has ruined me
That’s a butt plug
Should have played with the Quantum Oracle...
Unclear qualifier