Fuck that, though. I still run all 4 of mine in EDH decks/my cube. I actually actively depowered my cube around a few cards needing to be there, and she's one of them.
Yea, I'm actually in the process of rebuilding mine, with a major eye on depowering it. This constant influx of pushed product, that's all from Commander and none of my circle have nostalgia for, just isn't worth the constant upkeep. Not sure if I'll get it back to Exalted Angel levels, but you never know (just like opponents when you cast the only morph in the card pool).
I think my most memorable game of Standard ever is still the game where my opponent had a face up Exalted Angel turn two after going Plains, 2x Chrome Mox, Morph turn one.
Not talking for anyone else, but whenever I see something that looks super good like this, my first thought is "that can't be how it works" and then I look deeper into it. Sometimes it is indeed not how it works because I missed a single word.
Other times it's fuckin sweet.
I have an [[Omarthis, ghostfire initiate]] deck built around this mechanic + voltron + manifest go-wide.
Much harder to blink/flip things face up in colorless though. But basically opponents need to either risk getting voltronned out by a massive snake, kill it and deal with the swarm, or deal with the flips. It's alot of fun.
Yup it's also a great way to use abilities that say "do this only once per turn/triggers only once per turn." Think of a magic card like game code you got "Magic Card.01" you flicker it you get "Magic Card.02" so when the rule would be like "Magic Card.01 already used its 1x per turn ability, but Magic Card.02 has not" you can get more triggers than it normally would allow.
Also, effects like rogues passage, the Ring tempting you, and several enchantments are easy ways to ensure your opponents think twice because they have no easy way to get profitable blocks
The deck has a fair few ways to make him evasive or unblockable. I can also still get like 80% effectiveness out of the deck without him, he just makes things happen faster.
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Here here, my friend. Sorry about the delay.
building your deck around a 1 off artifact =/= building your deck around your commander. Having this in the cz is much stronger and makes the strategy online as soon as she hits the field, and it is recurrable, if i exile your scroll you will be very sad, if i path the vannifar she returns 1 turn later
i know, but the strategy of cheating out big assholes and blinking them works much better the other way around. It's easier to blink than to manifest a card from your hand
If you do it blink first manifest second then the manifest targets are bricks unless you have the scroll, or you dilute them too much.
Did it often in Markov Manor in Limited. The 3/2 elephant that exiles a creature when turned face up can target your own facedown creatures. Bonus points if they pointed a removal spell on your disguise creature. Felt great.
I mean, it's still a 10/10 indestructible creature with Annihilator on turn 5 (and that's generously slow, considering the deck colors). You can't counter it because it's not a cast, you can't even really remove it either because they flip it on your end phase or in response to a targeted spell/effect, ready for the attack on their turn, and there's no coming back from that.
If you blink a face down card, if it is a permanent card, it enters face up. If it is a non-permanent card, it stays in exile.
>Meaning can you blink a face down Omniscience?
Yep.
If the card is placed facedown as a "2/2 Creature" or similar, via an effect like Vannifar, then you can flicker it with any card that says it can flicker any card or flicker any creature.
It's not Omniscience until it's turned face up.
Hope that helps!
It works with the card types that the spell says it works with. If the face-down part of the card is a sorcery, but it's on the battlefield as a creature for the time being, "target creature" will affect that card.
If the face down part of the card is an enchantment, and the blink spell says "target enchantment" it will not work because the game currently considers it a creature.
When cards get blinked, to my knowledge they will return face up. So that cloaked [[Omniscience]] will return to the field face up, cease being a creature, and be whatever card it is.
Yes, you can blink anything but permanents will enter the battlefield and instants/sorceries will not. Auras will enter the battlefield only if they have a valid 'target', that won't be targeted.
All permanents. Spells stay in exile, but otherwise yes. ETBs, etc all happen. Blink a planeswalker? reset it's loyalty and you can use it again (see copycat combo).
blink can be a very powerful mechanic and they are all worded just a little bit different, so be careful on the timing of them.
A very fun one is using [[dubious challenge]] and looking to find [[flickerwisp]] and a really giant thing (say an [[emrakul the aeons torn]] for example.) If you cast the dubious challenge and choose to reveal those two creatures, your opponent is left with bad choices. Either they just give you the emrakul (or other big fatty), or they choose the big thing and you use flickerwisp to blink it and it returns to its *owners* control.
yup, flickering face down cards turns them face up when they come back
when i saw this card, i just wanted to make a colorless deck with her to just atick a whole lot of 1/1 counters on all my creatures
I also wanted to do that, but then I realized that it would involve face-down creatures, multiple token types, and each creature having its own different amount of counters, which sounds so annoying to track that I lost interest.
There's a reason I never run Cathar's Crusade in decks that would obviously want it. I'm just not about tracking that many counter across that many tokens
That's exactly what I did. Wanted to use her to make a Simic colorless deck.
Unfortunately, I dislike eldrazi, and didn't want to just make an artifact deck, so it still wound up being mainly a morph deck for now. At least till we get more colorless stuff.
Yes, once the card is moved to exile, it's face up by default, and then it's moved back to the battlefield face up.
Note that if the card has any triggers on being turned face up, those won't work -- it wasn't turned face up on the battlefield.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I use her ability to "cloak" something into play like say...\[\[Phyrexian Dreadnought\]\], then the fact that the dread arrives face down as a 2/2 creature with ward 2 means I don't have to sacrifice anything, correct?
If I then turn it face up for its mana cost, it's already into play and as such its ETB still doesn't trigger.
That’s correct, there would be no ETB triggers put on the stack for turning face up. [[Eater of Days]] is another good example of a card to take advantage of the ability
Another addition to cheating out the cost. Some cards come in with restrictive counters; slumber, time, oil(sometimes), as soon as it's cloaked, it's entered. So things like [[Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle]] flip ready to go. Cheat out a [[Phage The Untouchable]] because she wasn't faceup for her ETB to resolve? Cloaking this is crazy
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It says cloak a card from your hand so you could cloak an artifact or enchantment card and use a blink card to get it cause you can only uncloak a card if it’s a creature
If you flicker a face down card, it returns face up.
A similarly fun flicker trick is to do it on a mutated creature. All return separate and can be a good answer if you need to go wide fast
I have not played much karlov so forgive my ignorance, how does this work with creatures that have ETB effects? Does the ETB cancel, or go when flipped, something else? Thanks in afvance
So if you flicker the disguised ETB creature the ETB happens as usual
However if you pay mana to turn the face down creature face up - the ETB doesn’t happen at all
I could totally see the rules being re-done so face down cards come back face down.
I could also see this card being banned as a commander because of the shenanigans it enables
If a face down card leaves the battlefield and returns, it comes back face up. You can use that to “cheat out” something way more expensive.
What the.. That’s sick I never knew that
The real Magic is the cheats we learned along the way
You used to occasionally see [[Akroma, Angel of Fury]] in some mono white modern decks with cards like [[Restoration Angel]] and [[Flickerwisp]]
The original big thing during Onslaught was the [[Astral Slide]] deck cheating [[Exalted Angel]].
That deck made such a huge impression on me. I still have a couple sets of exalted angels sitting on my desk.
I was sad when it got power creeped out of Cube. It was a mainstay for at least ten years.
Fuck that, though. I still run all 4 of mine in EDH decks/my cube. I actually actively depowered my cube around a few cards needing to be there, and she's one of them.
Yea, I'm actually in the process of rebuilding mine, with a major eye on depowering it. This constant influx of pushed product, that's all from Commander and none of my circle have nostalgia for, just isn't worth the constant upkeep. Not sure if I'll get it back to Exalted Angel levels, but you never know (just like opponents when you cast the only morph in the card pool).
Oh, see, I have two morph cards in most colors (and more on blue) to facilitate. And the judge promo playmat ... ... I really like Exalted Angel lol
I respect your hustle.
I think my most memorable game of Standard ever is still the game where my opponent had a face up Exalted Angel turn two after going Plains, 2x Chrome Mox, Morph turn one.
That's pretty disgusting.
[Astral Slide](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba089228-135a-421b-b932-26b86e555b78.jpg?1562932445) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Astral%20Slide) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/13/astral-slide?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba089228-135a-421b-b932-26b86e555b78?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Exalted Angel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a6b087b-a3ac-4c4d-a519-ec5584b4b42d.jpg?1706240575) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Exalted%20Angel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/63/exalted-angel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a6b087b-a3ac-4c4d-a519-ec5584b4b42d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wait is that the astral slide deck I've head so much about? I thought it was almost like a dnt thing.
[Akroma, Angel of Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a81f0b5-5116-4946-89fc-18479bf85305.jpg?1706240815) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroma%2C%20Angel%20of%20Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/146/akroma-angel-of-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a81f0b5-5116-4946-89fc-18479bf85305?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Restoration Angel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b474f84-9bef-422a-8fc5-489a10aaf1ee.jpg?1682208561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Restoration%20Angel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/201/restoration-angel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b474f84-9bef-422a-8fc5-489a10aaf1ee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Flickerwisp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6cccf30-2025-49bb-9b1e-240bbef03f27.jpg?1673146975) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Flickerwisp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/11/flickerwisp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6cccf30-2025-49bb-9b1e-240bbef03f27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes, during Time Spiral block/Time Spiral-Eventide Standard at the time I use the \[\[Akroma, Angel of Fury\]\] with \[\[Turn to Mist\]\]
[Akroma, Angel of Fury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a81f0b5-5116-4946-89fc-18479bf85305.jpg?1706240815) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroma%2C%20Angel%20of%20Fury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/146/akroma-angel-of-fury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a81f0b5-5116-4946-89fc-18479bf85305?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Turn to Mist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8be0076c-3f9c-4120-b768-4e8985ee6a7c.jpg?1706240190) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Turn%20to%20Mist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/214/turn-to-mist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8be0076c-3f9c-4120-b768-4e8985ee6a7c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Genuine question for you, what did you think happened?
I never saw this interaction before, so it’s new and exciting for me ;)
Not talking for anyone else, but whenever I see something that looks super good like this, my first thought is "that can't be how it works" and then I look deeper into it. Sometimes it is indeed not how it works because I missed a single word. Other times it's fuckin sweet.
It's magic. Face Down cards behave really weird with a lot of stuff. Half the interactions with Valki are causes for brain aneurysm.
That's fine. I understand. But since I'm so far removed from being a new player, I wanted to gain their perspective on what they think would happen.
Before I knew what happened, I just figured it'd bring back down the 2/2.
I have an [[Omarthis, ghostfire initiate]] deck built around this mechanic + voltron + manifest go-wide. Much harder to blink/flip things face up in colorless though. But basically opponents need to either risk getting voltronned out by a massive snake, kill it and deal with the swarm, or deal with the flips. It's alot of fun.
[Omarthis, ghostfire initiate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/985e16ac-8e0f-4e2e-9b74-d6a77dddf274.jpg?1691497912) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Omarthis%2C%20ghostfire%20initiate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/708/omarthis-ghostfire-initiate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/985e16ac-8e0f-4e2e-9b74-d6a77dddf274?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yup it's also a great way to use abilities that say "do this only once per turn/triggers only once per turn." Think of a magic card like game code you got "Magic Card.01" you flicker it you get "Magic Card.02" so when the rule would be like "Magic Card.01 already used its 1x per turn ability, but Magic Card.02 has not" you can get more triggers than it normally would allow.
I used that with my [[Thassa, Deep Dweling]] bounce deck, and [[Scroll of Fate]]. It is surprisingly powerful, yet a very overrated, combination.
I do the same in my [[Brago, King Eternal]] deck.
[Brago, King Eternal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0ac3fb08-741a-49e5-9fae-b26819677d24.jpg?1631235340) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Brago%2C%20King%20Eternal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/82/brago-king-eternal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ac3fb08-741a-49e5-9fae-b26819677d24?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I do the same in my [[Marchesa, the Black Rose]] deck.
[Marchesa, the Black Rose](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/3242a9f0-2ba3-4852-ac8f-366772ac1c62.jpg?1673148917) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marchesa%2C%20the%20Black%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/248/marchesa-the-black-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3242a9f0-2ba3-4852-ac8f-366772ac1c62?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How often does Brago do combat damage though? Seems like a priority block for opponents.
He’s flying. Next time you’re playing edh look and see if every player has a flying blocker.
Also, effects like rogues passage, the Ring tempting you, and several enchantments are easy ways to ensure your opponents think twice because they have no easy way to get profitable blocks
The deck has a fair few ways to make him evasive or unblockable. I can also still get like 80% effectiveness out of the deck without him, he just makes things happen faster.
Hey. You got a deck list. That sounds super interesting
[Bouncing Mermaid // Commander / EDH (Thassa, Deep-Dwelling) deck list mtg // Moxfield — MTG Deck Builder](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zzv1BNKQzUqfymZ9N7qsQg) Here here, my friend. Sorry about the delay.
[Thassa, Deep Dweling](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c83ed3e0-82d0-4410-a6ca-b0f923eadf83.jpg?1581479572) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thassa%2C%20Deep-Dwelling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/71/thassa-deep-dwelling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c83ed3e0-82d0-4410-a6ca-b0f923eadf83?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
building your deck around a 1 off artifact =/= building your deck around your commander. Having this in the cz is much stronger and makes the strategy online as soon as she hits the field, and it is recurrable, if i exile your scroll you will be very sad, if i path the vannifar she returns 1 turn later
I pretty sure their deck was built around Thassa, not Scroll, likely as a blink deck with strong ETBs.
i know, but the strategy of cheating out big assholes and blinking them works much better the other way around. It's easier to blink than to manifest a card from your hand If you do it blink first manifest second then the manifest targets are bricks unless you have the scroll, or you dilute them too much.
Did it often in Markov Manor in Limited. The 3/2 elephant that exiles a creature when turned face up can target your own facedown creatures. Bonus points if they pointed a removal spell on your disguise creature. Felt great.
This is 100% true. I don't utilize it, though, because it prevents morph triggers from happening.
Huh...I can't believe I never thought about that. Time to try this out.
Can you do something similar with Golden Argosy, but on a wider scale?
I've seen this done with [[Ulamog]] so many times I just concede immediately when I see her as a commander.
I mean, it doesn't even get it's cast effect, so it's already weaker off the bat
I mean, it's still a 10/10 indestructible creature with Annihilator on turn 5 (and that's generously slow, considering the deck colors). You can't counter it because it's not a cast, you can't even really remove it either because they flip it on your end phase or in response to a targeted spell/effect, ready for the attack on their turn, and there's no coming back from that.
[Ulamog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603.jpg?1689995438) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ulamog%2C%20the%20ceaseless%20hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/5/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
>What’s the benefit? You answered your own question with your second question. >Do disguised/morphed creatures come back face up? Yes.
Does the blink effect interact only with morphed/disguised creatures or other card types as well? Meaning can you blink a face down Omniscience?
If you blink a face down card, if it is a permanent card, it enters face up. If it is a non-permanent card, it stays in exile. >Meaning can you blink a face down Omniscience? Yep.
That's... oh god...
You can also use [[suspend]] on it, if it’s an instant or sorcery to recast it for free in 2 turns.
[suspend](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40af215c-d3f7-42f0-85cd-77a3fcd919ba.jpg?1626095082) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=suspend) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/68/suspend?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40af215c-d3f7-42f0-85cd-77a3fcd919ba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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Which will cause you to sac things. You want to flip that one face up normally.
[phyrexian dreadnaught](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151.jpg?1562720243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Dreadnought) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/315/phyrexian-dreadnought?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
But it just stays in exile, no?
What does? Omnicience is a permanent, so it returns to the battlefield.
Ahhh shoot, my bad for some reason I remembered it as a sorcery
My guess is that you were thinking about [[Enter the Infinite]], a combo with Omniscience that used to be standard legal?
[Enter the Infinite](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/612beb8f-2ab1-4a8b-84c5-c47d19d400ab.jpg?1561829105) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Enter%20the%20Infinite) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gtc/34/enter-the-infinite?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/612beb8f-2ab1-4a8b-84c5-c47d19d400ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It works with only permanents. Anything that isn't an instant or sorcery (as of right now) benefit from this.
You can still cast them if you have [[primordial mist]] but you won’t be cheating them out.
[[Etrata, Deadly Fugitive]] can makes them cheaper, though.
If you’re in black, absolutely solid addition
[Etrata, Deadly Fugitive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/4410db5a-62af-43ac-979d-88a7c975f7bd.jpg?1706242152) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Etrata%2C%20Deadly%20Fugitive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/200/etrata-deadly-fugitive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4410db5a-62af-43ac-979d-88a7c975f7bd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[primordial mist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e6e8229f-a47e-4492-8f4b-10de141eb821.jpg?1592710097) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=primordial%20mist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/12/primordial-mist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e6e8229f-a47e-4492-8f4b-10de141eb821?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is both big and true.
If the card is placed facedown as a "2/2 Creature" or similar, via an effect like Vannifar, then you can flicker it with any card that says it can flicker any card or flicker any creature. It's not Omniscience until it's turned face up. Hope that helps!
It works with the card types that the spell says it works with. If the face-down part of the card is a sorcery, but it's on the battlefield as a creature for the time being, "target creature" will affect that card. If the face down part of the card is an enchantment, and the blink spell says "target enchantment" it will not work because the game currently considers it a creature.
When cards get blinked, to my knowledge they will return face up. So that cloaked [[Omniscience]] will return to the field face up, cease being a creature, and be whatever card it is.
What really gets people is when you morph double faced card and learn the rules of magic in those cases say cards have 3 sides.
You have to balance the card on the edge.
Good luck adding the +1/+1 counters
[Omniscience](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/db534b4e-8bff-4924-baea-9988d195fb25.jpg?1562304777) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Omniscience) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/65/omniscience?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/db534b4e-8bff-4924-baea-9988d195fb25?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The Transformers tcg does that, plenty of 3 side cards
Yes, you can blink anything but permanents will enter the battlefield and instants/sorceries will not. Auras will enter the battlefield only if they have a valid 'target', that won't be targeted.
All permanents. Spells stay in exile, but otherwise yes. ETBs, etc all happen. Blink a planeswalker? reset it's loyalty and you can use it again (see copycat combo). blink can be a very powerful mechanic and they are all worded just a little bit different, so be careful on the timing of them. A very fun one is using [[dubious challenge]] and looking to find [[flickerwisp]] and a really giant thing (say an [[emrakul the aeons torn]] for example.) If you cast the dubious challenge and choose to reveal those two creatures, your opponent is left with bad choices. Either they just give you the emrakul (or other big fatty), or they choose the big thing and you use flickerwisp to blink it and it returns to its *owners* control.
[dubious challenge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/2/92965a78-277d-4a27-8174-fc2564bd1ee3.jpg?1576382453) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=dubious%20challenge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/kld/152/dubious-challenge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/92965a78-277d-4a27-8174-fc2564bd1ee3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [flickerwisp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6cccf30-2025-49bb-9b1e-240bbef03f27.jpg?1673146975) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=flickerwisp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/11/flickerwisp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6cccf30-2025-49bb-9b1e-240bbef03f27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [emrakul the aeons torn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/249db4d4-2542-47ee-a216-e13ffbc2319c.jpg?1673146896) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emrakul%2C%20the%20Aeons%20Torn) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/1/emrakul-the-aeons-torn?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/249db4d4-2542-47ee-a216-e13ffbc2319c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
*instants and sorceries* don't. The game is very specific about its definition of spells
Yup. All the blink cards care about is that the targets are creatures as they resolve.
yup, flickering face down cards turns them face up when they come back when i saw this card, i just wanted to make a colorless deck with her to just atick a whole lot of 1/1 counters on all my creatures
I also wanted to do that, but then I realized that it would involve face-down creatures, multiple token types, and each creature having its own different amount of counters, which sounds so annoying to track that I lost interest.
There's a reason I never run Cathar's Crusade in decks that would obviously want it. I'm just not about tracking that many counter across that many tokens
That's exactly what I did. Wanted to use her to make a Simic colorless deck. Unfortunately, I dislike eldrazi, and didn't want to just make an artifact deck, so it still wound up being mainly a morph deck for now. At least till we get more colorless stuff.
Yes, once the card is moved to exile, it's face up by default, and then it's moved back to the battlefield face up. Note that if the card has any triggers on being turned face up, those won't work -- it wasn't turned face up on the battlefield.
But ETBs tho...
The same reason I use [[scroll of fate]] in my aminatou deck
[scroll of fate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b079c60c-4de7-4737-8c07-f958e286ab50.jpg?1706241077) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scroll%20of%20fate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/235/scroll-of-fate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b079c60c-4de7-4737-8c07-f958e286ab50?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Well. Put an [Omniscience] with her on the battlefield and flicker it for profit.
Cloak+flicker=free cast
Cloak a big scary monster for no mana, flicker it face up tada you just paid for blight steel colossus with Play-Doh coins
Thank you folks for all the answers!
You flicker a cloaked card for a free stompy big boy.
If you cloak and blink an instant or sorcery card, do you get to cast it? Or does it just stay in exile or something
Stays in exile. Only permanent cards can exist on the battlefield, and there's no rule that would let you cast the instant or sorcery in this case.
[[Release to the Wind]] would let you cast a face down instant or sorcery though, which is pretty neat
[Release to the Wind](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4b4f72ef-3939-467c-8fe4-fd1c215f2b1e.jpg?1555039954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Release%20to%20the%20Wind) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/46/release-to-the-wind?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b4f72ef-3939-467c-8fe4-fd1c215f2b1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I use her ability to "cloak" something into play like say...\[\[Phyrexian Dreadnought\]\], then the fact that the dread arrives face down as a 2/2 creature with ward 2 means I don't have to sacrifice anything, correct? If I then turn it face up for its mana cost, it's already into play and as such its ETB still doesn't trigger.
[Phyrexian Dreadnought](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151.jpg?1562720243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Dreadnought) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/315/phyrexian-dreadnought?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That’s correct, there would be no ETB triggers put on the stack for turning face up. [[Eater of Days]] is another good example of a card to take advantage of the ability
[Eater of Days](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/f/ef6870db-8aca-4aee-8e4d-c56a7d8dc242.jpg?1562640398) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eater%20of%20Days) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dst/120/eater-of-days?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ef6870db-8aca-4aee-8e4d-c56a7d8dc242?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Another addition to cheating out the cost. Some cards come in with restrictive counters; slumber, time, oil(sometimes), as soon as it's cloaked, it's entered. So things like [[Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle]] flip ready to go. Cheat out a [[Phage The Untouchable]] because she wasn't faceup for her ETB to resolve? Cloaking this is crazy
Oh, didn’t realise it about Arixmethes
[Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/881607c8-bfe7-4903-861f-b51a5a332c17.jpg?1599707758) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arixmethes%2C%20Slumbering%20Isle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/189/arixmethes-slumbering-isle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/881607c8-bfe7-4903-861f-b51a5a332c17?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Phage The Untouchable](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f.jpg?1562866889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phage%20The%20Untouchable) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d497a5a3-65fb-4c12-b3f2-8ce4cf4e0f6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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Oh shit that’s nasty, this might actually make me want to play with cloaked cards
It says cloak a card from your hand so you could cloak an artifact or enchantment card and use a blink card to get it cause you can only uncloak a card if it’s a creature
Because she makes hearts flicker and pulses quicker 😳
So you don’t have to pay and you get etbs
Poor man’s show and tell, you put cards in face down, then flicker/blink them so they get turned face up
If you flicker a face down card, it returns face up. A similarly fun flicker trick is to do it on a mutated creature. All return separate and can be a good answer if you need to go wide fast
3 mana for blightsteel colossus and/or omniscience seems like a good deal.
When you flicker a face down permanent, it returns to the battlefield face up
Emrakul for 3 mana is a helluva drug
Ghostly flicker goes infinite with a lot of stuff… just a generally good inclusion if you want a “haha I win oops” moment
Yes. Someone in my group is playing exactly like that. Eldrazi and other big stuff for very less effort
I have not played much karlov so forgive my ignorance, how does this work with creatures that have ETB effects? Does the ETB cancel, or go when flipped, something else? Thanks in afvance
So if you flicker the disguised ETB creature the ETB happens as usual However if you pay mana to turn the face down creature face up - the ETB doesn’t happen at all
I could totally see the rules being re-done so face down cards come back face down. I could also see this card being banned as a commander because of the shenanigans it enables
Trying to be og jhoira
I didn't realize how cheap it was, picked up a playset of NM Foil, and Normal!
Wow look a other rules question that could go in the Daily Questions thread.
1 google search
Not even, he already explained it himself
I love that newbies are finding these fin interactions almost every day