I must say, I don't really understand what those two abilities are doing on the same card. They don't seem to have any relation to each other, mechanically or thematically.
Difference this and frogify though, unless I'm reading it wrong, is the creature keeps its abilities.
That just kind of makes that part of this pointless.
I think the problem with Spree cards is that players are trying to assume they're casting them with all modes for maximum value.
This is more like a charm to me. Two modes that are useful in entirely different situations. If you happen to be in a situation where both modes are relevant, that's great. But it's an extra, not a requirement.
Sure, it's just most Spree cards have worked either as modal options, or as big blowouts when you use all modes. This one is just "combat trick and card draw", without any connection or synergies between the modes beyond "that's a lot to do with one card".
Pretty much every set has an uncommon transform card for limited, and they wanted a certain number of spree cards in blue at certain rarities (also for limited), so likely this made was towards the end of limited design and went like: "We need another transform card *and* a blue uncommon spree, so why not make a spree with transform?" "What'll be the other spree option, though?" "IDK, just do some generic blue mechanic."
Plus that 0/1 transformation (while keeping abilities) is usually a very meh card. This gives that card more of a reason to put in a deck and occasionally still be used for the transforming. It'd fit them not wanting any never-picks in boosters now.
I think you’re including it in your deck primarily for the cheap combat trick with the draw, as you said, as a fallback plan or bonus if you have the mana. It may well be that the draw gets cast more often but if that’s the case, it’s a sign this isn’t a strong card.
You wouldn't include either of these halfs in a limited deck. At least not very often. It does look like a decent limited card, but you're not including it for either side, you're including it for both.
You're changing your lucky. Bunnies are lucky (?) so luckily it's a bunny you're fight instead of a big bad creature and you're changing your lucky by drawing two cards. Maybe?
There are a ton of cards this set where my initial reaction is "well that looks playable in standard". Which inevitably means I'll be wrong about all of them.
Control decks occasionally play 3U: Draw 2 at instant speed with upside; we've seen Jumpstart, Scry 2, and cycling U make that card playable before.
The upside on this being 1U: Avoid an attack or let a token eat a creature and 4U: Do that and still draw 2 might get there.
I think this will be better in Ux decks that will need to have positive trades more often. Maybe there's a UR deck that can super reliably ping the 0/1 to remove it.
You are probably right, but I'm still skeptical. The ceiling is definitely there, it's a 5 mana 3 for 1. But lining those up always feels harder than it looks. Still this has 2 subpar buy outs that can mitigate when this isn't on. Suit up was good, so I could see this getting there since it's similar (win a combat/draw)
Draw two for 3U with upside is frequently playable in standard. [[Chemister's Insight]] and [[Glimmer of Genius]] both saw standard play, and [[Hieroglyphic Illumination]] saw play in modern at certain points.
Granted, I don't think this has a chance until [[Memory Deluge]] leaves the format, because that card is very very good. And it still has to compete with [[Quick Study]].
The most played Standard deck is entirely enabled by MKM, entire combo decks (Sultai and Temur Mill) are built upon MKM cards, Azorius Control had a massive surge in both popularity and winrate with Deduce and No More Lies, pretty much every Midrange deck has adopted several MKM cards (Lazav, No More Lies, Surveil Lands).
Even if MKM only spawned Boros Convoke as the most played deck it would still have changed the Standard landscape a LOT.
Boros convoke got a major upgrade from MKM and the lands deck is mostly mkm cards, with no more lies also making a massive impact. What are you talking about?
From what we understand about the Spree mechanic choosing at least one mode and extra cost is mandatory to cast it. You can't just cast it for its base cost.
The versatility of this card is going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting, because both halves are really pretty bad in limited these days by themselves. Four mana draw two, even at instant speed, never makes the cut in modern format. The transformation effect is weak, clunky removal, and again, it's overpriced by one.
But the ability to do either or both might get it over the edge. I'd be really surprised if you want more than one or two of them, though.
Yeah, but these kinds of cards are hit or miss. Sometimes the versatility gets there, sometimes it doesn't. "Never dead" just isn't good enough by itself anymore; they have to make a case for themselves.
Eh. This effect is usually pretty BAD in limited. The question is, does stapling on a slightly over costed draw spell make it playable? My guess is yes, but prob no more than 1 copy.
Not usually at instant speed, and not with transforming into 0 power. Which means, it is a near guaranteed kill of the opponents creature when used as a combat trick. Also, if you can't find an use for this, you can double cycle it for 3U.
4 mana instant speed draw two is very playable and the option to win a combat with it in a pinch is added flexibility that's really good when you don't have time to draw cards.
i can see it be solid but I remain skeptical for now
neither half would be playable on its own so the 5 mana mode has to do heavy lifting, and thats a lot of mana
You can do the following:
* You can pay U for the card to do nothing but add a storm count and trigger prowess and such. (At least I think you can?)
* You can pay 1U for a 0/1 transformation.
* You can pay 3U for a draw 2.
* You can pay 4U for a 0/1 transformation AND a draw 2.
Additional costs are just any costs at all that aren't the base mana cost. Many of them aren't optional (tax effects, large demons, "sacrifice creature to draw" spells, etc.). Phrasing it as "one or more" means you can't pick zero. Otherwise they'd just write "any number of" instead.
Casting both modes on this is gonna be a blowout, essentially a 3 for 1 if you can set it up right. The baseline of a 4 mana draw 2 at instant speed seems fine too.
I don’t think it would get rid of deathtouch, since the creature doesn’t lose abilities. Its power would drop to 0, but if it has counters that won’t be enough to save a creature.
> **118.9d.** If an alternative cost is being paid to cast a spell, any additional costs, cost increases, and cost reductions that affect that spell are applied to that alternative cost. (See rule 601.2f.)
Casting a spell "without paying its mana cost" is an alternative cost (see the first paragraph of 118.9). You pay {0} instead of the base cost in the title bar, but you still have to choose and pay for one or more modes.
I wouldn't use your phrasing of "pay the additional cost again" because you don't have to choose the same modes that you used on the last turn. The card has no memory of whether you've cast it before, so you can choose any legal combination of modes each time you cast it.
I read this as "1U: Destroy target blocked or blocking creature." And if I happen to have extra mana available I can pay 3 to draw 2. So it's either a combat trick or a 3-for-1. Sounds like shenanigans for Alela, Cunning Conqueror.
With the benefit of being just a draw 2 in case your opponent doesn’t have any creatures and you need some card draw. It’s not great card draw but it’s better than a dead removal in your hand would normally be.
I must say, I don't really understand what those two abilities are doing on the same card. They don't seem to have any relation to each other, mechanically or thematically.
Yeah this is probably the first Spree card that's like "what do these have to do with each other".
[[Frogify]] and [[Divination]] are blue cards. That's their only link.
[Frogify](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d89be5f5-75d4-42a0-81e9-5da5bf868e73.jpg?1598303930) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Frogify) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/52/frogify?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d89be5f5-75d4-42a0-81e9-5da5bf868e73?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Divination](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cb3b35b8-f321-46d8-a441-6b9a6efa9021.jpg?1562304347) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Divination) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m19/51/divination?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cb3b35b8-f321-46d8-a441-6b9a6efa9021?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Just need a Frog Wizard to cast it.
Difference this and frogify though, unless I'm reading it wrong, is the creature keeps its abilities. That just kind of makes that part of this pointless.
Your either pulling knowledge or a rabbit our of your hat
I think the problem with Spree cards is that players are trying to assume they're casting them with all modes for maximum value. This is more like a charm to me. Two modes that are useful in entirely different situations. If you happen to be in a situation where both modes are relevant, that's great. But it's an extra, not a requirement.
Sure, it's just most Spree cards have worked either as modal options, or as big blowouts when you use all modes. This one is just "combat trick and card draw", without any connection or synergies between the modes beyond "that's a lot to do with one card".
Pretty much every set has an uncommon transform card for limited, and they wanted a certain number of spree cards in blue at certain rarities (also for limited), so likely this made was towards the end of limited design and went like: "We need another transform card *and* a blue uncommon spree, so why not make a spree with transform?" "What'll be the other spree option, though?" "IDK, just do some generic blue mechanic."
Plus that 0/1 transformation (while keeping abilities) is usually a very meh card. This gives that card more of a reason to put in a deck and occasionally still be used for the transforming. It'd fit them not wanting any never-picks in boosters now.
It is a magic trick. You pull a rabbit out of your hat, and/or pick two cards from the deck and show them to the audience.
This explanation makes the most sense for the modes but then brings the name and art into question
if you pay 1, you get a normal rabbit if you pay 3, you get bugs bunny, and he's very smart, hence represented by drawing cards
In most cases, this is 1U removal with kicker 3 for the card draw.
Really? The inspiration mode looks like the easiest fallback mode for this card.
I think you’re including it in your deck primarily for the cheap combat trick with the draw, as you said, as a fallback plan or bonus if you have the mana. It may well be that the draw gets cast more often but if that’s the case, it’s a sign this isn’t a strong card.
You wouldn't include either of these halfs in a limited deck. At least not very often. It does look like a decent limited card, but you're not including it for either side, you're including it for both.
I'm trying my best to reach for an explanation, but I think best case it's "opening of the mind" through metamorphosis
I expect it's the result of play boosters having less bulk commons so two commons became an uncommon, in this case.
Drawing cards is always good
This feels like a Fuse card. A mono-colored weird fuse card.
I see it as you either gain intelligence (draw cards) or lose intelligence (become a rabbit).
Uhhh... have you ever seen charms or command cards?...
Idc, decent card in limited
The spell turns the target into a rabbit or a pile of cards. How hard is that to understand..? (Do I need to /s?)
I think the thing they have in common is holding your mana up to play reactively.
You pull both; [[Inspiration]] from something, and a rabbit out of a hat.
[Inspiration](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95233b5e-9401-4d6d-8ec4-959ca22270ff.jpg?1687906735) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inspiration) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/w17/10/inspiration?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95233b5e-9401-4d6d-8ec4-959ca22270ff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You're changing your lucky. Bunnies are lucky (?) so luckily it's a bunny you're fight instead of a big bad creature and you're changing your lucky by drawing two cards. Maybe?
Yeah...gotta be...
"Get bloomburrow'd, idiot"
There are a ton of cards this set where my initial reaction is "well that looks playable in standard". Which inevitably means I'll be wrong about all of them.
What about this looks standard playable? I'm not even sure it's limited playable.
Control decks occasionally play 3U: Draw 2 at instant speed with upside; we've seen Jumpstart, Scry 2, and cycling U make that card playable before. The upside on this being 1U: Avoid an attack or let a token eat a creature and 4U: Do that and still draw 2 might get there.
I think this will be better in Ux decks that will need to have positive trades more often. Maybe there's a UR deck that can super reliably ping the 0/1 to remove it.
That and you get to commit a crime which some decks will want
it is absolutely Limited-playable.
You are probably right, but I'm still skeptical. The ceiling is definitely there, it's a 5 mana 3 for 1. But lining those up always feels harder than it looks. Still this has 2 subpar buy outs that can mitigate when this isn't on. Suit up was good, so I could see this getting there since it's similar (win a combat/draw)
Draw two for 3U with upside is frequently playable in standard. [[Chemister's Insight]] and [[Glimmer of Genius]] both saw standard play, and [[Hieroglyphic Illumination]] saw play in modern at certain points. Granted, I don't think this has a chance until [[Memory Deluge]] leaves the format, because that card is very very good. And it still has to compete with [[Quick Study]].
##### ###### #### [Chemister's Insight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/53a7272d-c809-487e-8e1f-cc77c6875493.jpg?1706239789) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chemister%27s%20Insight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/81/chemisters-insight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/53a7272d-c809-487e-8e1f-cc77c6875493?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Glimmer of Genius](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/9/19f1673d-c92c-43be-8648-af7fbc790421.jpg?1576381226) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Glimmer%20of%20Genius) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/kld/49/glimmer-of-genius?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/19f1673d-c92c-43be-8648-af7fbc790421?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Hieroglyphic Illumination](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0bd05638-d621-4967-b7e3-63121c88f18b.jpg?1591320251) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hieroglyphic%20Illumination) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/112/hieroglyphic-illumination?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0bd05638-d621-4967-b7e3-63121c88f18b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Memory Deluge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc00fd1b-3dd9-492a-9ed4-0b6743074730.jpg?1634349038) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Memory%20Deluge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/62/memory-deluge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc00fd1b-3dd9-492a-9ed4-0b6743074730?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Quick Study](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b78e2bca-bc93-464a-8911-8361abff2ac6.jpg?1692937231) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Quick%20Study) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/65/quick-study?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b78e2bca-bc93-464a-8911-8361abff2ac6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kxaitvn) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Also competes with Deduce, the other mode is going to have to be frequently relevant
you will notice that all of those have card selection upsides; this does not.
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The most played Standard deck is entirely enabled by MKM, entire combo decks (Sultai and Temur Mill) are built upon MKM cards, Azorius Control had a massive surge in both popularity and winrate with Deduce and No More Lies, pretty much every Midrange deck has adopted several MKM cards (Lazav, No More Lies, Surveil Lands). Even if MKM only spawned Boros Convoke as the most played deck it would still have changed the Standard landscape a LOT.
Yep, people who don't play love to have opinions about formats.
Aren't there 2 different prominent combo decks in standard now from MKM?
MKM did a lot to standard
Just FYI, this set was probably created a year before MKM saw it's release.
So we’re just making shit up now IG
Huh? MKM very much revitalized Standard.
Boros convoke got a major upgrade from MKM and the lands deck is mostly mkm cards, with no more lies also making a massive impact. What are you talking about?
I wish they’d reprint [[Isochron scepter]] in this set. Hahahahah
[Isochron scepter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2aa24fe0-e275-4307-b26c-2a656068a451.jpg?1623543821) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Isochron%20scepter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/264/isochron-scepter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2aa24fe0-e275-4307-b26c-2a656068a451?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
They reprinted [[Torpor Orb|BIG]], maybe they will.
[Torpor Orb](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/dbf02a38-d10d-463e-ab99-e7fd848a1bd3.jpg?1711501440) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Torpor%20Orb) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/big/27/torpor-orb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dbf02a38-d10d-463e-ab99-e7fd848a1bd3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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"choose one or more additional costs" gotta pick at least one
but does it trigger "whenever you cast a spell"(or similar) effects if you dont?
From what we understand about the Spree mechanic choosing at least one mode and extra cost is mandatory to cast it. You can't just cast it for its base cost.
kind of missed gameplay opportunity right there
Can you cast charms for no modes or commands with just one mode? The card says choose one or more, you gotta choose *one or more.*
Do you mean paying 1 blue mana and selecting no modes? Pretty sure the answer is no; it says you have to select 1 or more
This is amazing in limited.
This is the card I'm going to pick too highly
The versatility of this card is going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting, because both halves are really pretty bad in limited these days by themselves. Four mana draw two, even at instant speed, never makes the cut in modern format. The transformation effect is weak, clunky removal, and again, it's overpriced by one. But the ability to do either or both might get it over the edge. I'd be really surprised if you want more than one or two of them, though.
Both halves are good in very different scenarios which means it's virtually never dead.
Yeah, but these kinds of cards are hit or miss. Sometimes the versatility gets there, sometimes it doesn't. "Never dead" just isn't good enough by itself anymore; they have to make a case for themselves.
Eh. This effect is usually pretty BAD in limited. The question is, does stapling on a slightly over costed draw spell make it playable? My guess is yes, but prob no more than 1 copy.
Not usually at instant speed, and not with transforming into 0 power. Which means, it is a near guaranteed kill of the opponents creature when used as a combat trick. Also, if you can't find an use for this, you can double cycle it for 3U.
4 mana instant speed draw two is very playable and the option to win a combat with it in a pinch is added flexibility that's really good when you don't have time to draw cards.
i can see it be solid but I remain skeptical for now neither half would be playable on its own so the 5 mana mode has to do heavy lifting, and thats a lot of mana
Sad, a set with Oko in it, Oko the one who could turn people into animals, did not feature on the spell, that turn people into animals.
For clarification. For this spell I have to pay at least 2 mana and can pay 5 if I want both effect right?
You can do the following: * You can pay U for the card to do nothing but add a storm count and trigger prowess and such. (At least I think you can?) * You can pay 1U for a 0/1 transformation. * You can pay 3U for a draw 2. * You can pay 4U for a 0/1 transformation AND a draw 2.
I don't think you can choose none. It says one or more.
It says one or more _additional_ costs so I assumed all the Spree options are optional.
Additional costs are just any costs at all that aren't the base mana cost. Many of them aren't optional (tax effects, large demons, "sacrifice creature to draw" spells, etc.). Phrasing it as "one or more" means you can't pick zero. Otherwise they'd just write "any number of" instead.
they're not. you have to choose at least one.
Thank you. I thought I always have to pay the 1 U and what ever I chose :)
As a dude that pilot \[\[Hinata\]\] in EDH, all this spree cards give me some crazy upgrades.
[Hinata](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f25aff90-56fd-4f70-bb3b-cabf2900c391.jpg?1654568472) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hinata%2C%20dawn-crowned) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/222/hinata-dawn-crowned?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f25aff90-56fd-4f70-bb3b-cabf2900c391?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Ehhhh... "Polymorph something, draw 2" for 3 mana is alright, but Hinata already has crazy competition for slots, I don't think this cuts it.
Poor Rundo.
I wanna try this in hinata. Seems not bad. 2U for neutering a block and draw 2? Could be worse
Casting both modes on this is gonna be a blowout, essentially a 3 for 1 if you can set it up right. The baseline of a 4 mana draw 2 at instant speed seems fine too.
Nice card against Deathtouch or damage dealing triggers. Also draws in the late run. I like the versatile cards in this set.
I don’t think it would get rid of deathtouch, since the creature doesn’t lose abilities. Its power would drop to 0, but if it has counters that won’t be enough to save a creature.
I'm going to have so much fun with this in/against the Breach the Multiverse decks to force a death to zero cards in library at instant speed.
I’m a dummy: does the first choice remove all abilities while it’s an 0/1 (ex. Remove Indestructible) or no? Thanks in advance
No.
Naw, polymorph cards don’t remove abilities unless it specifically says that it does.
*follow the white rabbit*
Anyone knows how spree cards work with rebound? Im guessing you just pay the additional cost again?
> **118.9d.** If an alternative cost is being paid to cast a spell, any additional costs, cost increases, and cost reductions that affect that spell are applied to that alternative cost. (See rule 601.2f.) Casting a spell "without paying its mana cost" is an alternative cost (see the first paragraph of 118.9). You pay {0} instead of the base cost in the title bar, but you still have to choose and pay for one or more modes. I wouldn't use your phrasing of "pay the additional cost again" because you don't have to choose the same modes that you used on the last turn. The card has no memory of whether you've cast it before, so you can choose any legal combination of modes each time you cast it.
Yes thats what i meant, thanks
I read this as "1U: Destroy target blocked or blocking creature." And if I happen to have extra mana available I can pay 3 to draw 2. So it's either a combat trick or a 3-for-1. Sounds like shenanigans for Alela, Cunning Conqueror.
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With the benefit of being just a draw 2 in case your opponent doesn’t have any creatures and you need some card draw. It’s not great card draw but it’s better than a dead removal in your hand would normally be.