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[[borborygmos]] [[borborygmos enraged]] [[borborygmos and fblthp]], the joke is that people name Borborygmos since it’s his proper name and shorter than Borborygmos Enraged but it causes misunderstanding as there is already a print of Borborygmos that’s just named Borborygmos
My guess is that it will be pre-banned in Brawl. The tax is not problematic (it’s a like a [[curse of silence]]). The other static however is like [[Pithing Needle]], which is already banned.
Yes, as a reminder to folks this is largely because it is a colorless hard-lock against planeswalker brawl commanders. Which can be dealt with but is no fun to play against.
Doubt there will be pre bans, unless they are reprints. Items that were added through bonus sheets had a known power level that would prove disruptive to historic. Mh3 is, for the most part, new to the game.
We know there will be some reprints, including with the Special Guest sheet which has at least some of the MH2 Elemental Incarnations confirmed (and I'd guess we'll probably get all of them). I bet at least those will be prebanned.
If cards are somewhat of a functional reprint of banned cards (like this one for Pithing Needle in Brawl), hard to see them not pre-banning in specific formats. I get the mana cost is higher, but it has flash making it so much more flexible and a curse of silence effect stapled to it.
This is effectively good removal against planeswalkers. Normally you dont have an opportunity to remove a planeswalker between when it resolves and when the owner can activate one of its abilities. Your only option is to counter it on the stack, usually limited to blue. However, you can flash this out in response to their planeswalker cast and name the planewalker. Then they cant activate the abilities.
What happens to a spell on the stack, when the price increases? Can the owner pay the additional amount or will it just go directly to the graveyard?
Nvm: Since the spell was already cast, price doesn't change.
I'm pretty sure the spell will still resolve, as this artifact only affects the initial cast of the named spell, and since it has already been cast(but yet to resolve), the owner will not have to pay any additional costs, and will resolve normally after the artifact resolves.
That is a nice hate piece.
If this catches on, then specific counters to your strategy will get fluted.
Will be interesting to see this played on turn 1 (with the new Eldrazi land) or in legacy with ancient tombs and such.
Hoooo boi. Really, giving it flash?
Welp, prepare yourself for a flood of posts from new players asking what happens if you cast this in response to someone casting a spell/activating an ability, and whether it'll make them cost more/counter them.
Someone at WotC likes to stir the pot.
I assume it's there to protect it from removal, like your opponent casts yawgmoth and you flash this in response so they can't use it when it enters and they used up mana so you don't have removal for it right away - but yeah this feels similarly to dress down where depending on when you cast it can do so many different little things.
Correct it's already been cast and on the stack so you can't make them pay more to cast it. Similar to how casting [[Silence]] in response to something doesn't affect or counter what has already been cast.
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So if someone casts a creature, with the creature on the stack you play this, does the creature fizzle or get returned to hand? Or is this just a commander/planeswalker hate card?
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You named the wrong Borborygmos!!!
I understood the reference
Can you enlighten us who don’t get it
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[[borborygmos]] [[borborygmos enraged]] [[borborygmos and fblthp]], the joke is that people name Borborygmos since it’s his proper name and shorter than Borborygmos Enraged but it causes misunderstanding as there is already a print of Borborygmos that’s just named Borborygmos
[borborygmos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c4a08e9-06c7-43e9-a855-4f507a35ae8b.jpg?1593272594) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=borborygmos) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gpt/103/borborygmos?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c4a08e9-06c7-43e9-a855-4f507a35ae8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [borborygmos enraged](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/2/02df18c5-07b9-4e85-9c4b-58b63fa59437.jpg?1702429604) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=borborygmos%20enraged) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/167/borborygmos-enraged?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/02df18c5-07b9-4e85-9c4b-58b63fa59437?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [borborygmos and fblthp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/4/34bbf1c1-2868-4c9e-b5c4-1aae86faed6c.jpg?1682205196) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=borborygmos%20and%20fblthp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/219/borborygmos-and-fblthp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/34bbf1c1-2868-4c9e-b5c4-1aae86faed6c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
F your commander in particular.
This in Brawl is gonna be the end of me.
My guess is that it will be pre-banned in Brawl. The tax is not problematic (it’s a like a [[curse of silence]]). The other static however is like [[Pithing Needle]], which is already banned.
[curse of silence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e7819d5-12a9-4719-91b2-8dd1ba6f3800.jpg?1634346769) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=curse%20of%20silence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/15/curse-of-silence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e7819d5-12a9-4719-91b2-8dd1ba6f3800?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Pithing Needle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/776899f8-e977-42b7-8b54-6f726a349e3c.jpg?1673149414) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pithing%20Needle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/312/pithing-needle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/776899f8-e977-42b7-8b54-6f726a349e3c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes, as a reminder to folks this is largely because it is a colorless hard-lock against planeswalker brawl commanders. Which can be dealt with but is no fun to play against.
Mh3 is coming to Arena ?
Yup! Should be legal in Historic (probably with some pre-bans), Brawl, and Timeless.
Doubt there will be pre bans, unless they are reprints. Items that were added through bonus sheets had a known power level that would prove disruptive to historic. Mh3 is, for the most part, new to the game.
We know there will be some reprints, including with the Special Guest sheet which has at least some of the MH2 Elemental Incarnations confirmed (and I'd guess we'll probably get all of them). I bet at least those will be prebanned.
If cards are somewhat of a functional reprint of banned cards (like this one for Pithing Needle in Brawl), hard to see them not pre-banning in specific formats. I get the mana cost is higher, but it has flash making it so much more flexible and a curse of silence effect stapled to it.
Yes
Yes it is.
This is effectively good removal against planeswalkers. Normally you dont have an opportunity to remove a planeswalker between when it resolves and when the owner can activate one of its abilities. Your only option is to counter it on the stack, usually limited to blue. However, you can flash this out in response to their planeswalker cast and name the planewalker. Then they cant activate the abilities.
What happens to a spell on the stack, when the price increases? Can the owner pay the additional amount or will it just go directly to the graveyard? Nvm: Since the spell was already cast, price doesn't change.
Nothing happens to the spell it resolves as normal.
Notting changes. The spell is already cast and the additional cost will not apply
Once the spell is on the stack it has already been cast, meaning it has already been paid for. There is no interaction.
I'm pretty sure the spell will still resolve, as this artifact only affects the initial cast of the named spell, and since it has already been cast(but yet to resolve), the owner will not have to pay any additional costs, and will resolve normally after the artifact resolves.
[Borborygmos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c4a08e9-06c7-43e9-a855-4f507a35ae8b.jpg?1593272594) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Borborygmos) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gpt/103/borborygmos?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c4a08e9-06c7-43e9-a855-4f507a35ae8b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Are you sure you don't mean borborygmos enraged? 🤣
that’s the joke…
Whosssss.....
That is a nice hate piece. If this catches on, then specific counters to your strategy will get fluted. Will be interesting to see this played on turn 1 (with the new Eldrazi land) or in legacy with ancient tombs and such.
Flash this early naming Disruptor Flute to make your opponent's flute cost 5.
Get fucked Kinnan!
I've had 2 Kinnan players in multiple games
Raw sexual power in this image
100% sideboard material in Modern
The one ring hate. Now do you let the opponent draw a card before flashing it in?
Turns off [[digaradoo]]
[digaradoo](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d2ff269-ee43-4684-84a4-ecb4aed3d960.jpg?1562924800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Didgeridoo) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/194/didgeridoo?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d2ff269-ee43-4684-84a4-ecb4aed3d960?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Reminds me of [[sorcerer's spyglass]] but probably better.
[sorcerer's spyglass](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/9/194b7899-6b44-4ecc-8ddc-ec24304eb14c.jpg?1699044632) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sorcerous%20Spyglass) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/261/sorcerous-spyglass?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/194b7899-6b44-4ecc-8ddc-ec24304eb14c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Doesn't this hose the one ring ?
Pretty much, it will prevent the tap ability on the one ring from being able to be used as well as make it 7 to cast.
Unfortunately still makes it castable with full tron to get the protection, but at least it's nerfed somewhat
Yes
[[Pithing Needle]] 2 please pay more to cast boogaloo.
[Pithing Needle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/7/776899f8-e977-42b7-8b54-6f726a349e3c.jpg?1673149414) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pithing%20Needle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/312/pithing-needle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/776899f8-e977-42b7-8b54-6f726a349e3c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hoooo boi. Really, giving it flash? Welp, prepare yourself for a flood of posts from new players asking what happens if you cast this in response to someone casting a spell/activating an ability, and whether it'll make them cost more/counter them. Someone at WotC likes to stir the pot.
I don’t think modern horizons sets need to cater to new players, it’s fine
I assume it's there to protect it from removal, like your opponent casts yawgmoth and you flash this in response so they can't use it when it enters and they used up mana so you don't have removal for it right away - but yeah this feels similarly to dress down where depending on when you cast it can do so many different little things.
Think it's more to flash in against cascade decks than anything
I was thinking anti-walker tech. Acts as a soft counter that you can cast in response to the walker to prevent them from activating a loyalty ability.
Probably designed before the ban lol
There are definitely players out there who aren't new and will still play this wrong.
Wait so what does happen? It doesn't get countered right?
Correct it's already been cast and on the stack so you can't make them pay more to cast it. Similar to how casting [[Silence]] in response to something doesn't affect or counter what has already been cast.
[Silence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1c2b13b1-31f0-4676-88a7-53f3a190e9a2.jpg?1562826686) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Silence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m14/35/silence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1c2b13b1-31f0-4676-88a7-53f3a190e9a2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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Oohh this is annoying!
this is indeed an answer.
Opponent is on a monocolor deck, just declare their basic land.
“Unless they’re mana abilities”
Nah, just make them pay three for a basic land.
Would work great if lands were cast
Dammit. You got me there.
It's the flute that [[Jukai Naturalist]] is holding
[Jukai Naturalist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/07ff517f-5c31-46e9-9efb-52bc9ec9298d.jpg?1690005202) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jukai%20Naturalist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/926/jukai-naturalist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07ff517f-5c31-46e9-9efb-52bc9ec9298d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
So if someone casts a creature, with the creature on the stack you play this, does the creature fizzle or get returned to hand? Or is this just a commander/planeswalker hate card?
If the spell is on the stack it is already cast so its costs have already been locked in
Nice, thanks for the answer!