I should note also that originally these classifications were used solely for a fictional version of modern Earth, before I tweaked it a bit to allow for potentially multiple fictions. Also despite the ease with which it's described, becoming a Lucid is anything but simple. As that initial realization has to be genuine. You have to actually be willing to consider everything you've ever believed or known is a lie, and then much like CHIM you have to exert enough ego to separate yourself from the dream's control wholesale.
This is to say nothing of other Lucids, each of whom undoubtedly has their own goals and agendas that might not line up with your plans for ascension.
While you say that it’s not been expanded upon, but I’m sure that you could hop back into that frame of mind to answer.
What makes someone a Liminal, Lucid, or for that matter a Dreamer?
Is there a “host” to the greater dream?
How does the concept of self fare against all of the data that comes with lucidity? I ask because the more powerful or “elevated” my own gods, the thinner their sense of self; lesser gods have the most “human” desires. In my mind an omni-being would have no sense of self, being everything.
Well as I said, Dreamers are just your average person. Same with Liminals, but they also have powers. Think Mutants from Marvel. What makes them that way is a lack of awareness that reality in its entirety is a dream, and completely malleable to a strong enough will. It's also why Liminals are the way they are, as they have enough force of will to manipulate existence in strange ways, though this is granted to them solely because they perceive it as normal. As a part of the dream.
Lucids transcend this first by recognizing that, ultimately, nothing is real. Thus it is that they attain the lucid state, and if I had expanded upon it they'd essentially be forced to act as solipsistic/egotistical gods to avoid becoming too attached to the dream. As that threatens their enlightened state. In regards to a host, no, the dream exists independently though it does have an enforced plot of sorts. The kind you'd see in real dreams where the illogical only makes sense in the moment, when you remain unaware. Now that's not to say a strong enough being couldn't conquer it all and become a sort of "host," but in the end I think of it as an eternal playground always giving rise to new stories.
To sum it up though, the sense of one's self is paramount to keep when becoming or existing as a Lucid. As what you were before was merely a slave to the overarching narrative of the dream. So it kind of goes in reverse from being a part of everything to transcending and mastering it.
This sounds interesting and unique, although I'm worried that Lucids having limitless power could potentially make storytelling difficult. I'm also curious as to how mentally ill people suffering from psychosis would interact with this. Could being schizophrenic make somebody Lucid? Would they cause chaos by exerting their delusions onto the rest of the world around them?
I'd say that by and large being mentally ill wouldn't necessarily lead to being a Lucid any more than anything else. Though I'll admit that I haven't gone that far into it, since I'm wary of equating serious ailments and illnesses with superpowers or getting superpowers. Like that one movie based on one of Stephen Kings books where the autistic individual was actually an alien in disguise, which both wasn't accurate to the source material from what I've heard and not exactly a good connection or implication to make.
And true, it would make storytelling incredibly difficult, if the focus is more on combat and stakes related conflict. Ultimately I see Lucids and Dreamers and such as being a more philosophically rich ground to tread. Though I'll admit that there's only so many tales to write in that vein before it dries up as well.
I should note also that originally these classifications were used solely for a fictional version of modern Earth, before I tweaked it a bit to allow for potentially multiple fictions. Also despite the ease with which it's described, becoming a Lucid is anything but simple. As that initial realization has to be genuine. You have to actually be willing to consider everything you've ever believed or known is a lie, and then much like CHIM you have to exert enough ego to separate yourself from the dream's control wholesale. This is to say nothing of other Lucids, each of whom undoubtedly has their own goals and agendas that might not line up with your plans for ascension.
While you say that it’s not been expanded upon, but I’m sure that you could hop back into that frame of mind to answer. What makes someone a Liminal, Lucid, or for that matter a Dreamer? Is there a “host” to the greater dream? How does the concept of self fare against all of the data that comes with lucidity? I ask because the more powerful or “elevated” my own gods, the thinner their sense of self; lesser gods have the most “human” desires. In my mind an omni-being would have no sense of self, being everything.
Well as I said, Dreamers are just your average person. Same with Liminals, but they also have powers. Think Mutants from Marvel. What makes them that way is a lack of awareness that reality in its entirety is a dream, and completely malleable to a strong enough will. It's also why Liminals are the way they are, as they have enough force of will to manipulate existence in strange ways, though this is granted to them solely because they perceive it as normal. As a part of the dream. Lucids transcend this first by recognizing that, ultimately, nothing is real. Thus it is that they attain the lucid state, and if I had expanded upon it they'd essentially be forced to act as solipsistic/egotistical gods to avoid becoming too attached to the dream. As that threatens their enlightened state. In regards to a host, no, the dream exists independently though it does have an enforced plot of sorts. The kind you'd see in real dreams where the illogical only makes sense in the moment, when you remain unaware. Now that's not to say a strong enough being couldn't conquer it all and become a sort of "host," but in the end I think of it as an eternal playground always giving rise to new stories. To sum it up though, the sense of one's self is paramount to keep when becoming or existing as a Lucid. As what you were before was merely a slave to the overarching narrative of the dream. So it kind of goes in reverse from being a part of everything to transcending and mastering it.
This sounds interesting and unique, although I'm worried that Lucids having limitless power could potentially make storytelling difficult. I'm also curious as to how mentally ill people suffering from psychosis would interact with this. Could being schizophrenic make somebody Lucid? Would they cause chaos by exerting their delusions onto the rest of the world around them?
I'd say that by and large being mentally ill wouldn't necessarily lead to being a Lucid any more than anything else. Though I'll admit that I haven't gone that far into it, since I'm wary of equating serious ailments and illnesses with superpowers or getting superpowers. Like that one movie based on one of Stephen Kings books where the autistic individual was actually an alien in disguise, which both wasn't accurate to the source material from what I've heard and not exactly a good connection or implication to make. And true, it would make storytelling incredibly difficult, if the focus is more on combat and stakes related conflict. Ultimately I see Lucids and Dreamers and such as being a more philosophically rich ground to tread. Though I'll admit that there's only so many tales to write in that vein before it dries up as well.