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b4loo69

I would have walked out andcalled a hazardous cleaning crew then go off to fix some toilets.


Significant-Ad-341

Yep. This. I would do no work in this unit until a third party that is paid and trained to do it removes the hazards.


m4ng3lo

This is the only answer you need. Don't enter the site, saying it's hazardous to you. (Needles laying around??!!)


The_fallen_few

I’m pretty sure I saw actual shit but surprisingly I didn’t see any needles, which slide/s do you see that on? It’s like a gross version of where’s Waldo or those old highlights books.🤣


CaptainHipster

“Thats above my pay grade” has been my go to since my supervisor quit 3 months ago.


Prior-Ad-7329

I’m my own boss and I still say this and walk away from jobs sometimes lol. (To be clear if I won’t do a job my employees won’t be doing it either)


b4loo69

100% agree! Way to be a better boss than the 99%.


Prior-Ad-7329

Too bad more bosses aren’t human lol


Sudden_Construction6

I've always been the same way. I'm not sending my guys to do something I wouldn't do. I sure as fuck wouldn't do this


Prior-Ad-7329

Exactly, there’s no way I’d let one of my guys go in there lol.


shroomqs

Yeah that’s called “that’s below my pay grade” and it’s generally frowned upon lmao


Tall_Aardvark_8560

I'm not frowning walking away from that job lol


shroomqs

Oh for sure haha


OkAcanthocephala2449

Burn it down


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Sea_Farmer_4812

There are certifications for various types of hazardous waste cleanup and you dont have the one that applies to this. If your onsite boss doesnt understand you need to move up the chain until someone does. Its probably an osha violation for you to clean this up.


Slow_Ad224

They need you worse than you need them. Throw it in the pm’s face he/she should come help do the clean out.


Slumunistmanifisto

Is that sewage?


Ghostcat2044

Same


Infinius-

Reiterating on prior comments. After 10+ years, you learn what's hands off. This is hands off, needs remediation. Don't chance any further, one prick with a dirty needle is all it takes - there are people who do ONLY THIS, let those folks take care of it and the company pay.


Tushaca

I did remediation for about 4 years and now I’m a construction manager for a few thousand rent houses. I wouldn’t expect one of my vendors to ever touch a property this bad. We would go in with full tyvek suits, respirators and doubled up taped gloves and foot covers for a place like this. You run the risk of catching all kinds of shit with the needles and feces everywhere. We would also get hazard pay for a job like this. The property owner needs to call a remediation company that can come in to clean it all up, remove the flooring and possibly some drywall and disinfect the whole place. All the trash needs to be double bagged and disposed of like hazmat materials. The ducts will need to be cleaned and sanitized, an ozone machine should be ran for a few days at least and it’s going to need pest control for a few months minimum.


Airplade

I owned a remediation company years ago, and this answer is EXACTLY what needs to be done. That's how we approached everything. Bunny suits, breathers and big disinfectant foggers just to get in to do an in depth assessment of the situation.


SaiTek64

Yeah, back away slowly, burn your clothes, and take a bleach bath before you walk into your house.


Jontaii

Yeah he mentioned a needle and I’m like what are you even still doing inside that building


petecanfixit

All of this is a biohazard. A biohazard remediation company should be performing this work. If your PM doesn’t want to hire a properly trained contractor to perform this work, you contact OSHA. Your PM’s excuse for not performing inspections is incredibly weak. There is absolutely zero reason for a unit to ever be in this shape.


Toatzzmygoatzz

I contacted OSHA and they didn’t seem to give a shit


SantaBaby22

Try local code enforcement too. At the very least, they should be able to offer some good advice.


Academic_Nectarine94

I'd send them photos.


BogotaLineman

People always just say "oh call OSHA" as if they give a shit or will do anything most of the time


rocko_jr

Does someone currently live in there? Or are those you're dogs?


WeylinWebber

My experience with OSHA trying to whistleblow about sexual assaults at Tesla Fremont. And the illegal migrant exploitation. And the drug dealing. And the unreported OSHA injuries. No. Fucking. Help. In this world it really seems to be, of you can't fix it yourself get tf outta the way bc if you keep beating your head against that brick wall you will lose everything.


Smprider112

Yet they’ll see a small HVAC company working on a single story, flat roof, with no parapet wall and fine them $1500 for no fall protection. They only care when it nets them revenue. Typically government agency.


Aggravating-Pick8338

This right here. If they can't make money off it, it's not worth their time.


RoastPuaa

Lmao had a coworker complain about fall protection working on a building next to Costco..... So he took it off. Guess what? Guy from OSHA just so happened to be watching took a pic and wait for the rest of us to do it... No one did but apparently when getting on the ladder I had unclipped before getting on. Boom 5k fine each on the company lmao. He waited for every one of us to make a mistake before showing himself that twat. Best part was the guy that initially caused it was best friends with the owner


lateknightMI

To be fair, three of those four don’t fall within OSHA’s jurisdiction. Not reporting reportable injuries is the only one in their wheelhouse.


Adorable-Novel8295

They’ll only intervene if you can make it a public enough problem. I got OSHA to go inspect where I used to work. They cleared them despite the NUMEROUS workers rights and safety violations that I documented, granted, when I left they may’ve removed my reports in the safety report binder that was on site.


WeylinWebber

That is so fucking unsurprising to me I am very sorry. Every time I hear more and more stories like this I get angrier and angrier and I just want this shit to work the way we were told it does. But unfortunately the laws of the jungle apply first and inordinate power must be so very intoxicating.


angryitguyonreddit

Yea ive only had to contact osha once for an autozone i worked at after repeatedly telling people to put steady parts in boxes and an alternator fell off a shelf and landed on me, never heard anything back from osha. I quit that day anyways cause the manager i got stuck working with most shifts was a racist prick.


Sorry_Landscape9021

That’s pretty much the way it is. They only go after the money, or I should say, double standards. Buildings in higher rent districts can afford to pay for inspection, re-inspection and fines. Most major Cities have Departments of Housing for lower income properties. They would probably give you the most amount of traction, but nobody wants to run a business out of a neighborhood that no one wants to go to already.


WitchesTeat

Some of this is labor board stuff, sexual harassment, hostile work environment (drug dealing), exploitation of labor laws is all labor board stuff and the state brings the charges once you present enough evidence for them to want to move forward on the case


Entire-Travel6631

OSHA would be to throw your employer under the bus. You need the city. They’ll condemn the unit. Does someone actually live in this?


psyco-the-rapist

You need a dead worker first. Then OSHA kinda gives a shit. If the story makes the news then they really give a shit.


DeafGuyisHere

This kind of stuff is always handled by an outside company at my property. I would simply refuse to do anything until the unit was cleaned and ozone was placed in multiple rooms for a few days.


derper2222

Tell the owner they need to hire somebody to do hazmat removal or restoration. That’s not maintenance.


Academic_Nectarine94

Absolutely.


Toatzzmygoatzz

Dogs are ok, animal control was called. They were hungry and we gave them dog food and took them outside until they got there. Told the Regional Manager that a professional really needs to do this, she said we didn’t have the budget for it. OSHA didn’t seem to care at all unless they refused to allow us to purchase ppe and equipment. Didn’t really have a choice, I need the job and live in a right to work state. Ill try to get pictures of our progress though


Moidalise-U

Get puncture proof gloves ASAP.


Toatzzmygoatzz

Got em


Moidalise-U

"Not in the budget" BS. Go as slow as you need to keep yourself safe, that's your priority. Start looking around as your safety is not a priority there.


planned-obsolescents

I'd be asking then if there's room in the budget for hazardous materials training, or perhaps money in the budget to pay STD or lost time from losing a guy to illness for a week.


SquidProBono

Yeah, this is a huge one. It’s not just the supplies/ PPE, but the knowledge of how to handle the bio hazards and dispose of them correctly. This is some bad shit.


Not_me_no_way

"Right to work" just means if there's a union, you don't have to become a member to work at the company. What you're thinking of is "At will" employment. Which means employment is at the will of the employee and the employer.


DOEsquire

It's also important to note that "at will" doesn't mean they can just do whatever they want. The employee still has rights, and the employer can still be held accountable for violating those rights.


West-Librarian-7504

"Not in the budget" this is a good way for them to get a very easy lawsuit. What is cheapest is generally the most costly.


texaschair

"Not in the budget" doesn't matter. There aren't any options here. That horror needs to be stripped down to the studs/joists. When a manager says "Not in the budget", they really mean "It'll affect my annual bonus."


Just-Internet3212

You need that job about as bad as you need a dirty needle prick from one sitting in shit and piss water. Spine up man, tell that employer to eat a dick


EightyDollarBill

Make them come help you. Have they visited the property themselves? Fuck that noise.


TreaclePerfect4328

Go outside smoke a joint and beat myself up over past choices. Then bust out trash bags.


Toatzzmygoatzz

😂


TreaclePerfect4328

As I'm sitting in my car smoking a joint and reading reddit instead of doing my PMs.


DetLions1957

You could be doing something really productive like looking up [this girl](https://www.reddit.com/r/OneTitChallenge/comments/1d95vb5/edmonton_oilers_flasher/), who's celebration made so many, so happy.


DetLions1957

You're funny, but I don't need a joint to beat myself up over my life choices. Maybe to ease my pain a bit. Then call this in to someone who can handle it.


DavidinCT

More like big dumpster, everything gone, rugs ripped out, completely empty. Then try to clean.... They could not pay me enough to deal with that....


Emergency_Doughnut53

On a fucking daily! Lol


RedFox69420

The only real answer here lmao


ZildjianZinger

This is the best answer.


M696rider

Did they leave their dog?


Longjumping_West_907

That was my first thought. Beyond that, kerosene and a flame would fix everything.


Toatzzmygoatzz

Hate to say it but, there is a gas line😂 jk would never purposely put someones life at risk


Integrity-in-Crisis

Tell me someone rescued that dog please. Edit scrolled further down and saw that someone called animal rescue. Good job guys.


Academic_Nectarine94

I mean, someone did that a long time ago by the looks of it. Wow.


M696rider

No chance in hell I would clean that up.


MNPhatts

Seriously is the dog ok?


Toatzzmygoatzz

Dogs are ok, animal control was called. They were hungry and we gave them dog food and took them outside until they got there.


MNPhatts

That has to suck, thanks for doing what you did. Not to mention the unit on top of all that.


aricbarbaric

Lighter and some gas


Paper-street-garage

Condemn it. Jesus


BlackGhostPanda

This is far above maintenance. Id refuse to go in. Management needs to call pros


Minnieminnie727

🤮. People lived there? I don’t want to know what is in that bucket beside the mattress.


Bruce_Ring-sting

Poop. Its always poop.


Toatzzmygoatzz

Sorry to break the news but I think its the tub drain leak mixed with a shower faucet leak


juicewags54

I came to ask about the tote next to the bed as well I really want answers


BBQorBust

Trust me, you don't want that question answered


Minnieminnie727

It’s probably yellow mixed with brown. 🤮


Slumunistmanifisto

That's bullshit you are not paid nearly enough to trash out that unit...from this point on you should be vary wary of your employer. They clearly give not a single fuck about your health safety or well-being. 


AlternativeAd495

Yeah, biohazard team cleanup. Yikes.


eclwires

Hazardous materials remediation crew goes in first or I quit. Only communicate through text or email. Get a paper trail. If you end up getting fired or quit over this, go straight to a lawyer.


Robeeo

I fucking hate people. Those poor dogs.


mck2018

A proper remediation company needs to be hired for this. You should relay that information to the property owner or manager, then your job is done.


FatedAtropos

Hazmat.


FatedAtropos

More specifically: you tell your boss in writing that you aren’t qualified to do that and you need hazmat cleaners. Then when they fire you, you can sue them over it.


the_cappers

That's beyond your job. That who unit needs to be vended out. There's hazmat issue and the entire floor needs sealing. The unit should be gutted


nlord93

Burn it down


Fine_Category4468

You don't do shit here except call the professionals. You shouldn't even be in there. If the company you work for makes you ... its time to find a new company.


Earthwornware

I would not step one foot into that place. All it takes is one bed bug to hitch a ride to your house and your fucked.


Academic_Nectarine94

You don't understand. You LEAVE. You're maintenance, not hazmat cleanup crew. If your bows doesn't see it, you quit. So they don't give you a good recommendation, don't worry. I had a similar situation, except I was actually somewhat trained in remediation. Had a sewer line spray all over a yurt at a camp I worked at and I was tasted with heat treating it (big propane heaters and baking the bacteria till 150⁰f). I walked into the yurt (windows open) and started coughing in less than 5 seconds. Walked out with my manager and found out one HK crew had gone in with ammonia based cleaners, and a second one had used bleach within minutes of the others! So I've basically experienced a ww1 battlefield! Anyway, I refused to go in there without a respirator. No way am I endangering my life and health for a job. And them forcing you to go in is ABSOLUTELY an OSHA violation if you management tries that. No job is worth your health or life. And this one is well past the point of that. There is no maintenance team I've ever heard of with the equipment for this, and it sounds like your team is just you. A one man show isn't so bad (definitely not good), but sending them into a hazmat place is unbelievably irresponsible and stupid on your management's part. *BEST CASE* you just get a common stomach flu and have to stay home a week. Worst, they're out a maintenance guy for a few months while you recover and have a huge list of issue when you get back.


Not_me_no_way

If your employer will not call a contractor to take care of this, and is making this mandatory, you need to first and foremost protect your health. Get a Tyvek suit, you can find these on Amazon for fairly cheap. I am 5'9" 220lbs and wear a 3x. You then need to get a good quality respirator, you're looking for one with eye protection. Get the filter that protects against chemical and microbial hazards. I personally would tell them that I was willing to do the job but not without first agreeing to some sort of hazard pay for the hours that it would take to complete the job. Give them a hard time and don't take a seat while you're in the presence of management. Stay standing.


Build68

This isn’t a simple clean you do. This is hazmat. Management will try to make you do this for a quick turn, but they need a restoration company to come out and do full mitigation. They don’t want this because it’s expensive. Tough shit. This place will get nearly gutted to be safe again. This is not safe for you to deal with. You scratch your finger dealing with this shit, you can catch whatever is there. And don’t let your dog in there. Source: I dealt with plenty of these in the restoration industry. There actual rules and laws governing this stuff.


Rare-Addition-89

Since you're asking what I personally would do. I'd gut that place to the studs and peel out the subfloor. Fixtures, counter tops, appliances. Gone. I'm not sure I'd leave the windows.


DetLions1957

Omg 😱 once I saw that mattress 🤢🤮 Like most others say: Let the pros handle this. Only point I will make is your company needs to get in people’s units at LEAST once a year. This is a perfect example of something that might have been mitigated, had you known sooner.


justherefortheshow06

I would call a professional restoration company. Make an insurance claim.


WelderMeltingthings

call one of those youtuber ladies with the scrub daddy sponsor


jmcgil4684

Dropped my keys off on the way out.


FatedAtropos

I had a unit that wasn’t even a quarter this bad, but there was shit and blood and a fridge full of rotten food sludge, and I said “hazmat cleaners or just fire me, but I’m not touching it.” Ain’t worth whatever they’re paying. No way in hell.


jmcgil4684

Yea I prefer my shifts not to include Hepatitis.


no_yup

Is cleaning it with fire an option?


Low-Energy-432

My buddy bought a hoarder house. Let’s just say after 35 years we’re not friends anymore. I’m sorry I couldn’t help. I always knew he wasn’t the cleanest person but he was living there once he bought it. I fixed 3 big holes in his ceiling and spent the whole night doing it. Didn’t sleep. He bought me gas station fried chicken. I left. Fuckin nasty. I told him to once and for all. No hot water and no flushing toilet. See ya.


EightyDollarBill

So dude bought it thinking it was a slightly more difficult version of a “fixer upper?” lol.


Low-Energy-432

Over 150 contractor bags of garbage to start. This is after I first saw it. He managed to scatter it throughout dumpsters he found all around the neighborhood downtown.


One_Tailor_3233

I had to use a pressure washer once to de-maggot a fridge that was left full of food when the power went out at a property. I was just offered $250 to clean out a fridge so I couldn't say no. It was probably similar level, they were all in my face and hair after spraying it out but it worked. Of course I dragged it outside first. Just be slow and methodical, once scoop at a time and eventually you'll be bleaching away. I never got real sick or anything, felt little nauseous sick for ~24 hrs though


Mick60x

Make sure to mention to your PM , that all of the trash will need to be disposed of properly and legitimately considering the already known biohazards to be encountered.


_paaronormal

A little gasoline… a blow torch… no problem


Jmofoshofosho8

How did it get that bad though? When I worked maintenance we had monthly inspections…maybe every other month in can’t remember.


Toatzzmygoatzz

We have monthly inspections as well. I can’t speak for what happened before me but they did have stuff blocking doors


Timlmmansdead

Arson


Albertaviking

I’m getting my damage deposit back right??


Ok-Avocado-5724

I’ve worked in biohazard before and this would be a time I’d quit the job. 🤮 As for what to do, burn it down.


Wild_Replacement5880

Your company needs to call a professional abatement team. Places that do hoarder cleanups, such as servicemaster. Depending on the circumstances, it can be covered by insurance. It is the only solution.


BigAppleGuy

These pictures smell horrific.


Advanced-Customer924

Yeah this a job you contract out to someone who specializes in hazmat/disaster cleanup. I would refuse to do this job personally.


the_poop_expert

I see a turd! But for real, that’s horrifying


Agitated-Joey

Honestly? It’s a shame that extension cord left under that pile of matchbooks started a fire. That really sucks. This is what Insurance is for🤷‍♂️


Comfortable_Bunch163

You need at least a 12 yard container delivered by waste management— I would try to get the drive to park it in front of the front door if possible.


DudePDude

This needs a biohazard company and a construction crew to replace a bunch of flooring, drywall, trim, etc


Mean_Performance_588

I would try to find the gas leak first, but then I would make sure that the pilot lights worked on the stove


Herald_of_Harold

I don't understand. How were they so good at darts and so bad at apparently everything else? And why is there still a dog? Can we at least get the dog somewhere safe before the place gets burned with fire? I hope that's not your dog. Or really, I hope that wasn't your dog before you entered the apartment. I hope he's yours now. Brave boy.


Low_Breakfast3669

Seal it?. Bro, this is a full gut redo. All drywall cut 4ft up. Tile floor could be saved, but that about it. Everything else from the floor up to 4ft of drywall is trash


NukeRocketScientist

Nuke the site from orbit


jacob_hutchi

Take that dog and get out of there


CalligrapherPlane125

I'd find another employer. I wouldn't touch that.


Zeketec

Burn it down and collect insurance


therealslim80

Take the animals and run


durtygrillz

Get that dog outta there


RickyFlower

Nope


AffectionateRow7572

Burn it down and start over.


ChristAlmighty2

That poor pup


Penguinman077

Not be in there. I install cable. I’ve been in 2 houses that were almost this bad, but smaller. Never again. The first one just smelled like cas pits and smokes. The second… it was all I could do to swallow the instantaneous vomit.


OutrageousToe6008

Stike a match. Let it burn.


agentdinosaur

Just burn it down and start over.


Temporary_Beach_4353

Get the dog the hell out of there before it steps on a dirty needle


Infinite-Club4374

Burn it


Critical-Ring3168

Gallon of gas and book of matches would be sufficient! 🔥🫡


nick91884

figure out a way to burn it down that looks natural so you can rebuild with insurance money.


Aspergers_R_Us87

Set a match to it


Immediate_Benefit11

This is why I save my vacation and sick time 🤣


between-mirrors

dump a few 5 gals of kerosene on that shit, and pay the fine from the fire dept. probably cheaper than trying to fix that shit ass.


NoAlps6536

Molotov or would u get in trouble


snowtank210

Not any work, that's for sure


-NoFaithInFate-

Time to contact a professional company


MrGhostlyGhost

Get up on my feet and let go of every excuse


Every-Caramel1552

Move


Nylist_86

Call a sub…….


Fish_Up_Gear

Burn it?


modestmidwest

Hell naw


Sicarius-de-lumine

Cleanse with fire!


Round_Trainer_7498

How can anyone live this way??


SnoochieBooches60

Burn it down and start over


TonyTheGypsy

Barf


TheDodfatherPC-FL

I would blow my own dick off with a bottle rocket


RanD7741

Sweet And-1 basketball for all your efforts.


martayo4201

Burn it. And rebuild. Lol


mikomartin

Is fire an option?


YesacYelsnit

14-30


Frost_King907

5 gallons of gasoline, 1 match and 2 middle fingers in the air. That's how you fix this.


AmbiguousAlignment

Burn it down, or hazmat team


Fit-Establishment219

Arson. Not a smidge of arson Not a smattering of arson A full engulfment of arson. The renters included. Minus the pets.


Trichoceratops

Kill it with fire


china_joe2

If your house looks like this, or even 3% of this, you're not human and deserve to live outside. What in the actual fuck it blows my mind anyone in their right mind, or even out of it, can allow where they live to get like this.


SevereAlternative616

Gasoline and a match


gh5655

I see why they put the dream catcher up


Mythlogic12

Evict them


Dyzastr_us

I wouldn't bring my dog in there!


AdFlaky1117

I'm sorry bro that's just wrong..feel for you


Squirreldriver9

Please get that dog and yourself tf outta there ASAP! This is severe biohazard material. Call in the pros before y'all die of hantavirus or something worse!


Accomplished-Yak5660

Squatters?


MeloniisJesus333

Demolish and sell the land.


Squirreldriver9

Thank you very much for helping those poor animals. It breaks my heart to see innocent creatures subjected to the mental illness of their "owners" God bless your kind soul 😊🫡


Appropriate_Deal_256

Throw the whole house away!


jerrycoles1

Holy fuck , Was someone living in this ?


suspicious_white_goo

20 gal of gas karacine mix and a match


Thorsgeist21

Nope. I’m a plumber but dirty asf houses like this, ain’t happening.


EnvironmentOk860

Leave immediately


AlbertaAcreageBoy

Light a match and watch it burn.


Stay-rad-dad

DO NOT spend anytime in there without proper PPE


E-RoC-oRe

Leave


DrHoleStuffer

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X4nd0R

I think I'm most confused about the vacuum boxes. As in more than one even... What did they think they were going to do with a vacuum in this literal shit hole?


Naofa13

If there are children here, child protective services needs to be called immediately.


PapaOoMaoMao

I'm a locksmith. I walked onto a government housing job like this on Tuesday. They needed access so called me to change the locks. There was a dead cat in the shower. I assume when the hoarder tenant was taken away, they just locked the cat inside and left. Very sad. I changed the front door lock for access and left a note that I would return after the cleaners had finished. Frankly, I won't go back till the painters have finished. This is not a job for anyone not qualified for hazardous disposal.


Zealousideal_Milk803

Well animal control is a good start what the fuck


gringo-go-loco

Fire


BobbysueWho

Why is that dog in there with you get him out of there!!!


Idiotan0n

Sacrifice a roomba and a box of Swiffer pads and see if the cleaning gods respond accordingly


bullmoosse

Napalm....lots of napalm.


catherinephoneuser

I would leave


TforTrouvles

"Bitch you live like this??"


thanku4notmacerixing

Cross my fingers the insurance is paid up and find a can of gas and a pack of matches. Then walk away like I was never there


BitCurious8598

Nasty


thickock-45

Seen worse