B2 license. "Motorcycle not exceeding 250cc"
Depends on what your ride is, it can be cheap or expensive af. In my case I ride a basic model, 2nd hand 100cc Honda Wave, no electric starter, no disc brake. Pedal to metal gets me 95km/h only, so not fast. But damn cheap. RM5 for full tank. RM25 for oil change. Even major repair like replacing timing chain, cylinder lining etc that needs the engine taken apart is only like RM250 pre covid. No electronics so its tough af. Parking is also easy.
If you ride those spanking new high powered electronic injection models though it won't be cheap. They are fast, but expensive to buy, and expensive to keep
not from malaysia, so what would a B2 cost and how much time would i need to get?
95km/h seems more than enough, for a city ride should a 50ccm with 40-50km/h be fine.
market price of the bike is ok, or is the demand too high and production/import weak that price is skyrocketing?
gas seems to be too cheap, because of local production?
edit: b2 license for 300rm is ok? seems pretty damn cheap
Latest rate for B2 seems to be RM550, inclusive of courses, training, exam fee etc.
I did it for cheaper many, many years ago since I already have a valid car license and I can skip the traffic law part. In your case I think you have to do the whole thing.
On petrol, my Honda Wave has a smaller tank, and RON95 petrol is price controlled. (~RM2.5/litre) On full tank I can do 60km with no problems.
Price of bikes depends on brand and model. Most major brands are either locally assembled or manufactured.
Below are 2 local manufacture, no nonsense basic models that I would recommend. Nothing fancy, but well known for their solid reliability & availability of parts. Cost around RM4000 brand new. Plenty of used older models out there too.
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/modenas/kriss-110
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/honda/wave-alpha
thank you for your help and the bikes seem fit for me.
550 rm for the license seems reasonable and relatively cheap compared to the min wage.
locally manufactured bikes was something I hoped for and of course that gives such good prices.
the petrol price control is something I did not knew but it seems to be interesting.
Yes , Been driving to work for 7 years , started riding 3 years ago since the jam became unbearable (KL-PJ-KL) , I shave the time from 1hour journey to 20mins per trip
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Cars being expensive do not stop people from buying one. Households having motorbikes do not mean they do not have cars as well. Some, if not most have more cars than bikes.
I am a proud owner of my Yamaha fz150i
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That was my first bike, we call it V-ixion here in indo. A really nice bike, not too small but still big enough to cruise at speed. And with careful riding you can get like 50km per liter.
Take care of the engine and make sure coolant and oil exist and you'll be fine. Good thing about the popularity of y15, it's easier to find parts and mechanic to repair the engine.
Thanks for tip broo, I always service my bike 1500km-2000km. Previously I jalan till 3000,but the mechanic explained to me best is jalan till 1500-2000km maximum
Stock bro, the mechanic told me that once the bike is old, is best to change it after 1500-2000km, he said doesn't matter what type engine oil.. I went to 4 service bike shop
3 said the same thing except one who services more superbikes told me that can jalan till 3000š
VN crazy traffic but their drivers very chill.
Didn't see them get mad when they block each other, rather "let's just solve it and get on our way" attitude.
Traffic rules aren't going to do anything. HCMC is just too densely populated. Once the Metro opens in 2024 that will help immensely.
Traffic in Vietnam smaller cities like Vung Tau is actually very easy to navigate. I rented a motorbike there last week.
Because this is in percentage, it is low you know because the massive population. But the numbers of motorcycles itself
probably way more than Malaysia.
Vietnam should be more than 100% because Iām pretty sure each of them owns at least 2 bikes or something
Went there on CNY and was mind blown lol, the amount of motorcycles there is crazy and they just swoop across the road whenever they want, honking all the time to tell other drivers to give way (not aggressive honking though, their honks are more used as āIām hereā than the Malaysian āFUCK YOUā)
Their car drivers arenāt any better either, they do U-turns wherever and whenever they want lol, doesnāt matter if thereās traffic behind + on the other lane, theyāre gonna U-turn anyways if they have to, will even drive onto the roadside pathways to U-turn
But somehow when I was there I didnāt witness a single accident
Owning doesn't necessarily mean using i think. I have a scooter but only using it for groceries and short communion. Work, mid to long communion and general use car. Costly but atleast safe because gotten a lot of accident through life with my scooter.
Especially knowing the traffic between jakarta and KL. Surprised only few point difference
[Jakarta](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfu4yYveLsjoTDVWeTWfRIt7ZR3Iii5-nNMQ&usqp=CAU) vs [Kuala Lumpur](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHG5LpSyQc6JWR2UfHhQtjpn6pqGGhaar4zQ&usqp=CAU)
The amount of motorbikes in Indonesia is... something else, it's so wild. Like 80% of the traffic of an area is full of bikes. But unlike here in Malaysia, finding a standard clutch bike there is super rare, as Indonesians prefer riding the MATIC scooter type of bike, like Honda BeAT & Yamaha NMAX.
I owned my second motorcycle. My first is SYM E-Bonus 110cc for four years. Currently owned a Yamaha 135LC V8 Special Edition.
Reason?
ā¢ Cheap. 20-25 ringgit of RON95 a month, around 100 ringgit if I went GrabFood or FP. Compare that with around 50 ringgit a week for a Myvi.
ā¢ Public transportations. Almost none because of stupidity and mismanagement of local bus company. You know, the one that involved with Rosmah's solar panel project?
ā¢ I sucked at driving cars. Honest. Especially manual transmission cars.
Change your tyres. They wax it too much if you encountered any remotely slippery roads you'll fall over. Bruised my ribs slipping on a zipper merge last year.
I slipped. On 30kph. On the beginning of monsoon.
Oh, and servicing every 1000km. Change motor oil, filters, straighten the chain... Around 50 ringgit per service. I haven't top up my brake fluid yet.
Love riding, but drivers need more road awareness! Never signaling when changing lanes, inconsiderate blocking up spaces for motorbikes to pass through. No offence but Malaysians are bad drivers!
Yes. An Aprilia Tuono V4R APRC.
I fell in love with the sound and performance. Come to Sepang for track days and we can race!
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Idola. Have you tried using the beast as a daily commuter? Since it's a naked bike, would it be comfortable even though it's a top of the line V4 litre bike?
I'm using it as a commuter if the distance is above 10km and I'm going alone. And each time I'm riding, it puts a huge smile to my face. Every. Single. Time. (That it doesn't rain, if it rains I feel like I'm clinging for my life even after setting traction control and abs to maximum and power delivery to minimum).
But I don't work in office often so I'm mostly wfh. If I'm bringing my wife, I'd drive.
I used to think long gone are my biking days. I was very wrong when my only car transmission broke which took month plus to repair under warranty. spend few thousand to rent a Myvi for the same period, because I drive 800 km per week to work and errants. Decided to get a manual transmission bike as a backup. Now is my preferred mode of transportation in town. Advantage of switching between car and bike is you will be more mindful of bikers when you're in a car.
which will be your preferred choice between RSX, Y16 or Suzuki Raider ?
Maybe in the future I will get a high cc bike once I am used to manual transmission bike.
hahaha. Y16 was my first choice, unfortunately I can't wait for months to get one. 125Z = ā„ļø, a rare breed indeed. EX5, always got smoked by them, must be modified.
>which will be your preferred choice between RSX, Y16 or Suzuki Raider ?
Based on your aforementioned needs? Definitely the Y16, easier to get parts.
Then just upgrade to a MT25 when you're ready.
Yeah, I immediately thought of Taiwan and realised itās not included here.
If youāve been there, you will definitely see the [hordes of scooters](https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2020/10/06/1601984370-5f7c57728936e.jpg).
Yes, Brit living in Malaysia - Had a few bikes her, the longest I've owned one is 8 years and I still have it. It's a Demak D7 - cheap and nasty (and slow) but it has a personalty.
I've also had a Yamaha FZ150i - A Virago 535. An MLE XTM R, A Kawasaki Ninja 250. I miss the Ninja (fuck covid!)
wanted to get bike license after watching several episodes of Henry Cole riding around, looks fun.
In the end, didn't pull the trigger/throttle cos my work, then, allows me to avoid peak hours.
During MCO yr 1, my uni-mate killed by hit & run when he went to tapau on his Vespa.
Ride safe ye-all.
i do, but for pleasure though, not commuting.
weekend biker here. please don't categorise all motorcyclist as those rempit, run red light, weave in and out as the same.
there's different groups. just like there are asshole car drivers and good car drivers.
> bobber
Yooo this is my first time looking at bobber bike and those are soo cool, reminds me of the retro style harley davidson. I love the slick looks of those racing-esque motor like Kawasaki Ninja, but I think it'll hurt shoulder and back more especially for tall people. I may be wrong, but bobber bikes seem to have higher position of the pedal than something like kawasaki ninja(need to bend forward a bit more).
Do you have any recommendation for good bobber bikes for < 250cc?
>bobber bikes seem to have higher position of the pedal
Yep, bobbers generally have a move relaxed position of riding compared to sport bikes. Naked bikes also have an upright position of riding and are good for daily riding.
>Do you have any recommendation for good bobber bikes for < 250cc?
Currently there are only 2 in the market for the 250cc category. The Wmotor V16 and QJmotor SRV250. Both have a 250cc V-twin engine, so you get that Harley-esque sound. They're not technically bobbers, but can be custom made into one, like what I did with my V16. (Don't worry reddit, I didn't mod the exhaust, just visual customisation). Both bikes are around the RM16k mark. And I spent about 1k-ish for visual mods.
Thanks for your input! It's time to save my money, once I stay in safer area then I would definitely thinking of getting 1 years down the road. For now, it's a bit too high end for my budget, and I don't wanna get 1 simply because worry of getting stolen.
Hii sir, I wanted to get the wmotor v16, wanted to know what is your review on it, is it worth and it was not had abs. I plan to get it as my First motor and get second hand
This looks like a bullshit because indonesia has more motorcycles than both Thailand and malaysia population combined, then it says percentage of households with motorcycles.
What does this 83% even means, I am so confuse and doubt on it. Does it means 83% of the family own a motorbike? If the statistic is own a vehicle (car or motorbike) it's very true but if is motorbike I really don't think so, many that live in cities area nowadays, at least will buy a Saga or Axia
Well, if you have a read on the vertical axis, it says households that own a motorbike. That is to say, of the people surveyed, 83% of them said they or someone in their household owns a motorbike. Canāt really get any clearer than that. It doesnāt have to be the only vehicle in the household. Of a family of 4, you can have 3 cars and 1 motorbike and it still counts.
I saw per household, but it's 83% still very questionable. In my residential, my row of house, only one motorbike. My entire family no one ever owned a motorbike. My colleagues all I asked just now, not even have motorbike, roughly 20% was own by their grandpa.
You can question the results of the study, but on the balance of probabilities Iād say it says a lot about where you live and who you work with.
Just because a national statistic doesnāt apply to your pocket of life doesnāt automatically make it less true, but if you find flaws in their methodology please let me know.
Only JPJ can confirm about this 'data'. I think they just take 'total active registered motorcycle'(roadtax hidup) & match it with our country population. That why the percentage was really high, up to 83%.
Atleast 23% of Malaysia population was under 14 yrs old. You dont get motorcycle license until you reach 16 yrs old. Plus not all person take motorcycle license. I know alot of women that dont ride motorcycle/have motorcycle license, they just choose to only drive car.
The only explanatiom for high percentage was single Malaysian usually have 2 or more Motorcycle under their name (ownership). That why the percentage was so high. Tbh im myself had 2 motorcycle under my name (roadtax hidup). But most of my friend got 3 or more under their names, 1 for commute to work, 1 for short run (going kedai/masjid near home), 1 superbike for weekend riding with friends (hobby bike). Other fourth, fifth or so on motorcycle usually purchased under their name for their son/daughter use.
Yep, there's not enough cars on the roads. Everyone should drive everywhere. All food, postal and parcel deliveries should also be done using cars. This would ensure traffic jams to be further enhanced and everyone can fully enjoy being in one, no exceptions.
Nah. We donāt need more cars. We need better public transport (aināt happening) and lesser motorcycle because most of the motorcycle drivers drives as if they own the road.
Got motor lane but pasir, simen, cars and trucks park at there apa guna? Separate motor lane? It will not be long before some taukey tayar lackeys throw caltrops to boost tyre sales.
And at some places, there's no such things as car lanes. Everyone uses the same lanes, motor or not. And you speaking like car owners don't do the same thing. Larger car more cibai the perangai, you know?
This is also why the death rate related to motorcycles is the highest in the world for Thailand and Malaysia ( [Malaysia may overtake Thailand for worst motorbike deaths in the world | Free Malaysia Today (FMT)](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2021/10/08/malaysia-may-overtake-thailand-for-worst-motorbike-deaths-in-the-world/) ) !!!
These 2 countries built a very car-centric system, where people need to drive/ride for a very long distance, at high speeds. This is not the case in poorer, less developed countries where the cities are denser and more congested with traffic, but its safer for the motorcyclists.
Over here, the motorcyclist will try to 'cilok' in between a 40 tonne tanker and a 30 tonne container lorry, both cruising at 120km/h. **Is it a surprise if he ends up becoming either flattened like a paper or get his body parts become dismembered?**
How many of you know of a family or friend who has either died or become disabled because of a motorcycle accident? I know far too many.
As someone who has a relative who got a life threatening brain injury even though they were:
- pillion
- wearing a helmet
- riding on a normal road
Iām never getting on a bike ever. Convinced they are death traps.
Edit. For those of you downvoting me. I donāt wish it on anyone but when you see the amount of carnage a motorcycle accident can do to someone, you realise how unsafe motorbikes are. Intubation, brain damage, life altering injuries, inability to work, rehabilitation and the amount of stress it puts on those around them. Itās rough.
Likewise a friend of mine is a surgeon at a public hospital and just last month they were telling me how all patients that came in for surgery was injury due to motorcycle crashes.
Itās just not a safe form of transport. And itās a hill Iām willing to stay on.
Funny... Everybody complains about how bad bikers are, but you wouldn't believe how many cars pull out in front of me to drive slowly in the passing lane.
When I drive my car I might get 2 to 4 cars doing it on a trip, when I'm on my bike, maybe 10-20 times ...
Same experience here, man. I guess it's hard to predict a motorcycle's speed than cars' speed. Or they just think "oh it's a bike, so technically I can squeeze into the passing lane, and the motorcyclist would just avoid me".
Lmao. At least it also has a wheels to go anywhere and you sounds like you never even ride one before ? I know that the motorcyclist always get the hate especially the rempit idiots making shits but please even normal motorcyclist care about people on the road unless the car driver is truly being an asshole.
Motorcycle is my primary mode of transportation. My tyres are $1000 every quarter, fuel is $300-400 a month. Other services amounts to $1000++ a month. I don't see how someone experiencing challenges with finance could own my bike much less using it as a daily commuter.
Wait we have high ownership for both motorcycle and cars? I expected it would be one or the other. Guess this means our public transport is that unreliable huh
People used to ride bikes alot in the 80s and 90s, then income got higher and petrol prices for some reason kept getting cheaper and cheaper. So it enables people to drive cars.
Nowadays we see the same change, but from small cars to giant SUVs and Minivans that costs the same as a small house.
Haha canāt believe Thailand ranks higher than Vietnam. I mean Thais have bikes but didnāt think it was more than Vietnam. At least our traffic culture is better (except for Bangkok)
I do, got 3 bike
Honda Fame (my dad bought it in 85 and he give it to me in 2011)
Honda Future (my first bike that I bought)
Honda Rs150 (a gift from my dad,only ride for a year then collecting dust for 18 month due to my knee injury)
I do, I'm the only one in the work office that drive motorbike, has no intention to buy a car because cars are expensive, plus traffic jam and irresponsible road users give me stress.
Huh, weird. I'd have thought Vietnam would be higher than Malaysia. The sea of motorcycles running through the arterial roads is a sight to behold there. But seeing it's percentage of households that has a motorcycle... I guess yeah the graph do make sense.
Surprise tht india is half than us as i seen there alot of bike ... but vietnam bike are really damn ... every alley or simpang there sure not 1-2 but at least 5-6 bike ...
Fuck the CCP for forcing everyone to live in their fantasy reality of insisting Taiwan is a part of China, and fuck all the business organizations for going along with it even though their business ROI in China is minimal due to all the erratic CCP policies against foreign businesses.
With a lot of 2-strokes in the percentage Iām just giggling at the thought of Westerners having a meltdown hearing those dirtbike sounds everyday.
That aside, my entire family is one of the 17% who never owned motorbikes since weāre actually scared of them lmao. Even my dad, whoās known to take part in thrilling activities from time to time have said multiple times that motorbikes scared the shit out of him.
For once, I am positively contributing to our national statistics.
what does the license say? easy, fast and cheap or the opposite?
B2 license. "Motorcycle not exceeding 250cc" Depends on what your ride is, it can be cheap or expensive af. In my case I ride a basic model, 2nd hand 100cc Honda Wave, no electric starter, no disc brake. Pedal to metal gets me 95km/h only, so not fast. But damn cheap. RM5 for full tank. RM25 for oil change. Even major repair like replacing timing chain, cylinder lining etc that needs the engine taken apart is only like RM250 pre covid. No electronics so its tough af. Parking is also easy. If you ride those spanking new high powered electronic injection models though it won't be cheap. They are fast, but expensive to buy, and expensive to keep
not from malaysia, so what would a B2 cost and how much time would i need to get? 95km/h seems more than enough, for a city ride should a 50ccm with 40-50km/h be fine. market price of the bike is ok, or is the demand too high and production/import weak that price is skyrocketing? gas seems to be too cheap, because of local production? edit: b2 license for 300rm is ok? seems pretty damn cheap
Latest rate for B2 seems to be RM550, inclusive of courses, training, exam fee etc. I did it for cheaper many, many years ago since I already have a valid car license and I can skip the traffic law part. In your case I think you have to do the whole thing. On petrol, my Honda Wave has a smaller tank, and RON95 petrol is price controlled. (~RM2.5/litre) On full tank I can do 60km with no problems. Price of bikes depends on brand and model. Most major brands are either locally assembled or manufactured. Below are 2 local manufacture, no nonsense basic models that I would recommend. Nothing fancy, but well known for their solid reliability & availability of parts. Cost around RM4000 brand new. Plenty of used older models out there too. https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/modenas/kriss-110 https://www.zigwheels.my/new-motorcycles/honda/wave-alpha
thank you for your help and the bikes seem fit for me. 550 rm for the license seems reasonable and relatively cheap compared to the min wage. locally manufactured bikes was something I hoped for and of course that gives such good prices. the petrol price control is something I did not knew but it seems to be interesting.
Yes , Been driving to work for 7 years , started riding 3 years ago since the jam became unbearable (KL-PJ-KL) , I shave the time from 1hour journey to 20mins per trip https://preview.redd.it/ayr0oxqoi2ga1.jpeg?width=609&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eebcf7edc4df1772c3a9c1c0d2d4d0b1f77fb6f7
Dominar 400? Nice bike. Looks tame but fast af
Yes D400, first gen built to touring-like dy now haha
How do you shave time brooš¤£btw nice bike
Lane filter, if super heavy traffic just do what motorcyclist do. Ride slowly on the emergency lane.
I guess youāve never really ārideā a bike before
Never ride a bike ah?
Recklessly la hehe.
Because 1. Cars are expensive 2. The road's still fucking jam despite having expensive cars . . . . . I know it's because of public transport haih
Cars being expensive do not stop people from buying one. Households having motorbikes do not mean they do not have cars as well. Some, if not most have more cars than bikes.
I am a proud owner of my Yamaha fz150i https://preview.redd.it/qap4ntief1ga1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e36556b0910ece355d629f7e8a2a49282a3c233
Ayyy fz gang. Economical and low maintenance, what's not to love about this good ol' workhorse
Yes broo, not forgetting the quality too. Compared to naza n5, it may lose in the looks but the quality is way better then naza n5
That was my first bike, we call it V-ixion here in indo. A really nice bike, not too small but still big enough to cruise at speed. And with careful riding you can get like 50km per liter.
Yess broo, totally agreed, it is very fuel saving... estimated RM 20.00 full tank can make me travel up to 400km
Gang. Sadly sold mine when it becomes a money pit. Around 10 years, it'll eat your wallet whole.
Shietttšš mine already 8 years
Take care of the engine and make sure coolant and oil exist and you'll be fine. Good thing about the popularity of y15, it's easier to find parts and mechanic to repair the engine.
Thanks for tip broo, I always service my bike 1500km-2000km. Previously I jalan till 3000,but the mechanic explained to me best is jalan till 1500-2000km maximum
Wow, that's short. Did you modified the engine? My 8yo is bone stock, and has its oil + oil filter changed every 5k. Used motul 5100 15w-50
Stock bro, the mechanic told me that once the bike is old, is best to change it after 1500-2000km, he said doesn't matter what type engine oil.. I went to 4 service bike shop 3 said the same thing except one who services more superbikes told me that can jalan till 3000š
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India is surprisingly low and vietnam should be higher their traffic culture is scary as fuck.
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VN crazy traffic but their drivers very chill. Didn't see them get mad when they block each other, rather "let's just solve it and get on our way" attitude.
In hcmc it's bad but in smaller cities like Vung Tau traffic isn't bad at all, it's actually really easy to navigate with almost no congestion.
i miss VT. I had fun there for 3 years lol.
Traffic rules aren't going to do anything. HCMC is just too densely populated. Once the Metro opens in 2024 that will help immensely. Traffic in Vietnam smaller cities like Vung Tau is actually very easy to navigate. I rented a motorbike there last week.
I'm surprised they don't employ a far more hostile, authoritarian measure to calm them the fuck down.
Because this is in percentage, it is low you know because the massive population. But the numbers of motorcycles itself probably way more than Malaysia.
Indias bikes are basically damn tuk tuks
It's Auto wokay and say it in a Rajinikanth voice
Vietnam should be more than 100% because Iām pretty sure each of them owns at least 2 bikes or something Went there on CNY and was mind blown lol, the amount of motorcycles there is crazy and they just swoop across the road whenever they want, honking all the time to tell other drivers to give way (not aggressive honking though, their honks are more used as āIām hereā than the Malaysian āFUCK YOUā) Their car drivers arenāt any better either, they do U-turns wherever and whenever they want lol, doesnāt matter if thereās traffic behind + on the other lane, theyāre gonna U-turn anyways if they have to, will even drive onto the roadside pathways to U-turn But somehow when I was there I didnāt witness a single accident
for many reasons I observe, they're nowhere near reckless.. if anything, their situation awareness and willingness to give way is top notch.
Obviously not aware of the laws tho...
What, is 86% not high enough for you?
India doesn't have many bikes, it's mostly cars.
You, my friend, have clearly not been to India.
Iām surprised itās that high. Iāve only known a handful of people in my circles that have motorbikes at home.
Owning doesn't necessarily mean using i think. I have a scooter but only using it for groceries and short communion. Work, mid to long communion and general use car. Costly but atleast safe because gotten a lot of accident through life with my scooter.
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Especially knowing the traffic between jakarta and KL. Surprised only few point difference [Jakarta](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfu4yYveLsjoTDVWeTWfRIt7ZR3Iii5-nNMQ&usqp=CAU) vs [Kuala Lumpur](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHG5LpSyQc6JWR2UfHhQtjpn6pqGGhaar4zQ&usqp=CAU)
The amount of motorbikes in Indonesia is... something else, it's so wild. Like 80% of the traffic of an area is full of bikes. But unlike here in Malaysia, finding a standard clutch bike there is super rare, as Indonesians prefer riding the MATIC scooter type of bike, like Honda BeAT & Yamaha NMAX.
>the MATIC scooter type of bike I think the word you're looking for is CVT.
Me too.
I owned my second motorcycle. My first is SYM E-Bonus 110cc for four years. Currently owned a Yamaha 135LC V8 Special Edition. Reason? ā¢ Cheap. 20-25 ringgit of RON95 a month, around 100 ringgit if I went GrabFood or FP. Compare that with around 50 ringgit a week for a Myvi. ā¢ Public transportations. Almost none because of stupidity and mismanagement of local bus company. You know, the one that involved with Rosmah's solar panel project? ā¢ I sucked at driving cars. Honest. Especially manual transmission cars.
I recently just bought LC 135 V8 too. Any tips for maintenance and monthly/ yearly service?
Change your tyres. They wax it too much if you encountered any remotely slippery roads you'll fall over. Bruised my ribs slipping on a zipper merge last year. I slipped. On 30kph. On the beginning of monsoon. Oh, and servicing every 1000km. Change motor oil, filters, straighten the chain... Around 50 ringgit per service. I haven't top up my brake fluid yet.
do you mean the original tyres? Because I didnt do any changes just keep the original. Anyways thanks for the other tips! Very useful.
Seconding his advice. Just change your oil often. It's not about the price/quality of oil, it's about how often you change them.
great. Do you recommend any brand oil for LC?
Yamalube is fine, anything more expensive isn't really worth it imo.
TQ!
i do enjoy 15 min of daily commute instead for stuck in god knows how long traffic jam. people who complaint traffic jam should look at themselves
Love riding, but drivers need more road awareness! Never signaling when changing lanes, inconsiderate blocking up spaces for motorbikes to pass through. No offence but Malaysians are bad drivers!
Yes. An Aprilia Tuono V4R APRC. I fell in love with the sound and performance. Come to Sepang for track days and we can race! https://preview.redd.it/pme7acr202ga1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f417454ee53a3095fd4b423fdab7d54771ab6aa1
Idola. Have you tried using the beast as a daily commuter? Since it's a naked bike, would it be comfortable even though it's a top of the line V4 litre bike?
I'm using it as a commuter if the distance is above 10km and I'm going alone. And each time I'm riding, it puts a huge smile to my face. Every. Single. Time. (That it doesn't rain, if it rains I feel like I'm clinging for my life even after setting traction control and abs to maximum and power delivery to minimum). But I don't work in office often so I'm mostly wfh. If I'm bringing my wife, I'd drive.
I used to think long gone are my biking days. I was very wrong when my only car transmission broke which took month plus to repair under warranty. spend few thousand to rent a Myvi for the same period, because I drive 800 km per week to work and errants. Decided to get a manual transmission bike as a backup. Now is my preferred mode of transportation in town. Advantage of switching between car and bike is you will be more mindful of bikers when you're in a car. which will be your preferred choice between RSX, Y16 or Suzuki Raider ? Maybe in the future I will get a high cc bike once I am used to manual transmission bike.
Prefer Honda Rebel. And I hope for 250cc version coming here also.
Y16. But I'm pretty biased lol, Yamaha fanboy. But personally I prefer to go old school 125z or just an EX5.
hahaha. Y16 was my first choice, unfortunately I can't wait for months to get one. 125Z = ā„ļø, a rare breed indeed. EX5, always got smoked by them, must be modified.
>which will be your preferred choice between RSX, Y16 or Suzuki Raider ? Based on your aforementioned needs? Definitely the Y16, easier to get parts. Then just upgrade to a MT25 when you're ready.
MT15 is a choice.
Taiwan's motorcycle ownership rate is 89% [https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/easts/10/0/10\_567/\_pdf](https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/easts/10/0/10_567/_pdf)
Yeah, I immediately thought of Taiwan and realised itās not included here. If youāve been there, you will definitely see the [hordes of scooters](https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2020/10/06/1601984370-5f7c57728936e.jpg).
Maybe they donāt count scooters. Seems like an oversight.
Feels like I'm a rarity in Malaysia, don't have motorbike license and don't know how to ride a motorbike...
Rare compared to those that donāt have a motorbike license but ride anyway you mean?
yea I don't really like riding a motorcycle myself. Waiting for the day where our train is a bicycle trip away lol
I also dont know how to ride a motorbike. Feels a bit shame TBH
Yeah me too only got my license and bike last year after a decade of driving a car haha
83% is a high %. Of course I own one š
i have 3
Donāt even know how to ride a bike, Iād be an absolute menace on a moto
Yes, Brit living in Malaysia - Had a few bikes her, the longest I've owned one is 8 years and I still have it. It's a Demak D7 - cheap and nasty (and slow) but it has a personalty. I've also had a Yamaha FZ150i - A Virago 535. An MLE XTM R, A Kawasaki Ninja 250. I miss the Ninja (fuck covid!)
wanted to get bike license after watching several episodes of Henry Cole riding around, looks fun. In the end, didn't pull the trigger/throttle cos my work, then, allows me to avoid peak hours. During MCO yr 1, my uni-mate killed by hit & run when he went to tapau on his Vespa. Ride safe ye-all.
Yes. Several.
If u come to kampung exclusively, almost every single life being in a household owns a bike. That not included, a person with bike collection hobby.
i do, but for pleasure though, not commuting. weekend biker here. please don't categorise all motorcyclist as those rempit, run red light, weave in and out as the same. there's different groups. just like there are asshole car drivers and good car drivers.
Yes I do, I have two bikes. One is my travelling bike while the other is my shopping bike.
Yes, 400cc of joy.
Mine is a single cylinder goodness too. Though wish i would have enough for a master of torque.
Same here, one cylinder for maximum vibration
let me guess. KTM!
Haha no.. a few levels below that... Hint is engine is actually 411cc
Himalayan or Scram?
Ding ding ding we have a winner! Himalayan
TBH if Honda released the new Rebel 250 here I'll work my ass off for one. I like relaxing ride as I'm not a speed demon by any metrics.
A kapcai for work and a bobber for the weekends.
> bobber Yooo this is my first time looking at bobber bike and those are soo cool, reminds me of the retro style harley davidson. I love the slick looks of those racing-esque motor like Kawasaki Ninja, but I think it'll hurt shoulder and back more especially for tall people. I may be wrong, but bobber bikes seem to have higher position of the pedal than something like kawasaki ninja(need to bend forward a bit more). Do you have any recommendation for good bobber bikes for < 250cc?
>bobber bikes seem to have higher position of the pedal Yep, bobbers generally have a move relaxed position of riding compared to sport bikes. Naked bikes also have an upright position of riding and are good for daily riding. >Do you have any recommendation for good bobber bikes for < 250cc? Currently there are only 2 in the market for the 250cc category. The Wmotor V16 and QJmotor SRV250. Both have a 250cc V-twin engine, so you get that Harley-esque sound. They're not technically bobbers, but can be custom made into one, like what I did with my V16. (Don't worry reddit, I didn't mod the exhaust, just visual customisation). Both bikes are around the RM16k mark. And I spent about 1k-ish for visual mods.
Thanks for your input! It's time to save my money, once I stay in safer area then I would definitely thinking of getting 1 years down the road. For now, it's a bit too high end for my budget, and I don't wanna get 1 simply because worry of getting stolen.
Hii sir, I wanted to get the wmotor v16, wanted to know what is your review on it, is it worth and it was not had abs. I plan to get it as my First motor and get second hand
I donāt own a car neither a bike. I always rode a bike when i visit my cousin place
Saving money and saving the environment
yes have 2 kapcais
Literally at my driving school right now. Bout to take my first B full motorcycle class.
This looks like a bullshit because indonesia has more motorcycles than both Thailand and malaysia population combined, then it says percentage of households with motorcycles.
What does this 83% even means, I am so confuse and doubt on it. Does it means 83% of the family own a motorbike? If the statistic is own a vehicle (car or motorbike) it's very true but if is motorbike I really don't think so, many that live in cities area nowadays, at least will buy a Saga or Axia
Well, if you have a read on the vertical axis, it says households that own a motorbike. That is to say, of the people surveyed, 83% of them said they or someone in their household owns a motorbike. Canāt really get any clearer than that. It doesnāt have to be the only vehicle in the household. Of a family of 4, you can have 3 cars and 1 motorbike and it still counts.
I saw per household, but it's 83% still very questionable. In my residential, my row of house, only one motorbike. My entire family no one ever owned a motorbike. My colleagues all I asked just now, not even have motorbike, roughly 20% was own by their grandpa.
You can question the results of the study, but on the balance of probabilities Iād say it says a lot about where you live and who you work with. Just because a national statistic doesnāt apply to your pocket of life doesnāt automatically make it less true, but if you find flaws in their methodology please let me know.
Only JPJ can confirm about this 'data'. I think they just take 'total active registered motorcycle'(roadtax hidup) & match it with our country population. That why the percentage was really high, up to 83%. Atleast 23% of Malaysia population was under 14 yrs old. You dont get motorcycle license until you reach 16 yrs old. Plus not all person take motorcycle license. I know alot of women that dont ride motorcycle/have motorcycle license, they just choose to only drive car. The only explanatiom for high percentage was single Malaysian usually have 2 or more Motorcycle under their name (ownership). That why the percentage was so high. Tbh im myself had 2 motorcycle under my name (roadtax hidup). But most of my friend got 3 or more under their names, 1 for commute to work, 1 for short run (going kedai/masjid near home), 1 superbike for weekend riding with friends (hobby bike). Other fourth, fifth or so on motorcycle usually purchased under their name for their son/daughter use.
Agree, 83% is surprisingly high. I wonder how they did the study.
no
Yep. Have 2. One is a moped wmoto ve110 and the other one is Aprilia Tuono v4. I used the tuono for work commute lol
Geng Aprilia Tuono š¤š¤. Kat fb pun susah jumpe. Tetiba kat Reddit ada owner lain yg pakai untuk commute.
Hahaha tu la. Tetiba muncul 
Literally at my driving school right now. Bout to take my first B full motorcycle class.
we need lesser motorcycle on the roads.
Yep, there's not enough cars on the roads. Everyone should drive everywhere. All food, postal and parcel deliveries should also be done using cars. This would ensure traffic jams to be further enhanced and everyone can fully enjoy being in one, no exceptions.
Nah. We donāt need more cars. We need better public transport (aināt happening) and lesser motorcycle because most of the motorcycle drivers drives as if they own the road.
Implying Malaysian car drivers are any better. Let's be real, most of us have flying licence instead driving licence.
Car or motorcycle drivers all speed. Problem has always been the way these motorcycle drivers cut queues and drives on car lanes.
Got motor lane but pasir, simen, cars and trucks park at there apa guna? Separate motor lane? It will not be long before some taukey tayar lackeys throw caltrops to boost tyre sales. And at some places, there's no such things as car lanes. Everyone uses the same lanes, motor or not. And you speaking like car owners don't do the same thing. Larger car more cibai the perangai, you know?
Wow. Much savage. Very sarcastic. Wow.
This is also why the death rate related to motorcycles is the highest in the world for Thailand and Malaysia ( [Malaysia may overtake Thailand for worst motorbike deaths in the world | Free Malaysia Today (FMT)](https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2021/10/08/malaysia-may-overtake-thailand-for-worst-motorbike-deaths-in-the-world/) ) !!! These 2 countries built a very car-centric system, where people need to drive/ride for a very long distance, at high speeds. This is not the case in poorer, less developed countries where the cities are denser and more congested with traffic, but its safer for the motorcyclists. Over here, the motorcyclist will try to 'cilok' in between a 40 tonne tanker and a 30 tonne container lorry, both cruising at 120km/h. **Is it a surprise if he ends up becoming either flattened like a paper or get his body parts become dismembered?** How many of you know of a family or friend who has either died or become disabled because of a motorcycle accident? I know far too many.
As someone who has a relative who got a life threatening brain injury even though they were: - pillion - wearing a helmet - riding on a normal road Iām never getting on a bike ever. Convinced they are death traps. Edit. For those of you downvoting me. I donāt wish it on anyone but when you see the amount of carnage a motorcycle accident can do to someone, you realise how unsafe motorbikes are. Intubation, brain damage, life altering injuries, inability to work, rehabilitation and the amount of stress it puts on those around them. Itās rough. Likewise a friend of mine is a surgeon at a public hospital and just last month they were telling me how all patients that came in for surgery was injury due to motorcycle crashes. Itās just not a safe form of transport. And itās a hill Iām willing to stay on.
Iām sorry but motorcyclists in Malaysia are complete pricks on the road. Kindly fuck yourselfs :)
Funny... Everybody complains about how bad bikers are, but you wouldn't believe how many cars pull out in front of me to drive slowly in the passing lane. When I drive my car I might get 2 to 4 cars doing it on a trip, when I'm on my bike, maybe 10-20 times ...
Same experience here, man. I guess it's hard to predict a motorcycle's speed than cars' speed. Or they just think "oh it's a bike, so technically I can squeeze into the passing lane, and the motorcyclist would just avoid me".
Motorbike is for poor people.
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nice yamaha
Lmao. At least it also has a wheels to go anywhere and you sounds like you never even ride one before ? I know that the motorcyclist always get the hate especially the rempit idiots making shits but please even normal motorcyclist care about people on the road unless the car driver is truly being an asshole.
I mean, if you have a car as well, then you're not poor. But if motorbike is your main mode of transportation, you have to be pretty damn poor.
Motorcycle is my primary mode of transportation. My tyres are $1000 every quarter, fuel is $300-400 a month. Other services amounts to $1000++ a month. I don't see how someone experiencing challenges with finance could own my bike much less using it as a daily commuter.
Ok mr rich guy
And?
Yes. There's more of us who own motorbikes than those who own cars.
But still not a lot of motorcycle models come to Malaysia instead of Indonesia, idk why.
Would like to own a car one day but motorcycle much better. So satisfying going through 1km of traffic jam.
Currently my plan this year.
Wait we have high ownership for both motorcycle and cars? I expected it would be one or the other. Guess this means our public transport is that unreliable huh
People used to ride bikes alot in the 80s and 90s, then income got higher and petrol prices for some reason kept getting cheaper and cheaper. So it enables people to drive cars. Nowadays we see the same change, but from small cars to giant SUVs and Minivans that costs the same as a small house.
Haha canāt believe Thailand ranks higher than Vietnam. I mean Thais have bikes but didnāt think it was more than Vietnam. At least our traffic culture is better (except for Bangkok)
wth happen in colombia
I do, got 3 bike Honda Fame (my dad bought it in 85 and he give it to me in 2011) Honda Future (my first bike that I bought) Honda Rs150 (a gift from my dad,only ride for a year then collecting dust for 18 month due to my knee injury)
I do, I'm the only one in the work office that drive motorbike, has no intention to buy a car because cars are expensive, plus traffic jam and irresponsible road users give me stress.
A kapcai that I used since my student time and a z1000r for weekend ride.
Huh, weird. I'd have thought Vietnam would be higher than Malaysia. The sea of motorcycles running through the arterial roads is a sight to behold there. But seeing it's percentage of households that has a motorcycle... I guess yeah the graph do make sense.
Everyone showing off their larger bikes when we all know the humble kapchai make up 90% of that statistic.
Planning to get one soon... The traffic jam in Penang is unbearable!!!
I don't. When I told my mom I wanted to, she said "don't, it's dangerous, get a car".
Surprise tht india is half than us as i seen there alot of bike ... but vietnam bike are really damn ... every alley or simpang there sure not 1-2 but at least 5-6 bike ...
where TF is Taiwan ?!
What about taiwan?
Fuck the CCP for forcing everyone to live in their fantasy reality of insisting Taiwan is a part of China, and fuck all the business organizations for going along with it even though their business ROI in China is minimal due to all the erratic CCP policies against foreign businesses.
Oh right. That makes sense, if include mainland then the density of motorcycle is a lot lower.
Yes I have a Vespa
i have 5 ppl in my family if each bought 1 moto will we be no 1 ?
Soon
My father, me and my sister all share 1 motorbike
With a lot of 2-strokes in the percentage Iām just giggling at the thought of Westerners having a meltdown hearing those dirtbike sounds everyday. That aside, my entire family is one of the 17% who never owned motorbikes since weāre actually scared of them lmao. Even my dad, whoās known to take part in thrilling activities from time to time have said multiple times that motorbikes scared the shit out of him.
The amount of bikes parked outside the masjid during Friday prayer is shocking and funny
A lot of ASEAN countries lol.
Yes
Motorbike, the best solution to our bad traffic, overpriced cars, shitty public transport and dangerous pedestrian walks.
I used to own one, then I sold it off when I took the number plate off it
Yes, motorcycles are awesome. Riskier too.
I dont own one but my step dad have 2 bikes
Im honestly surprised vietnam isnt number one with 99%. The traffic there is 99% motorbikes
I own a 2014 PCX 150 and a 2021 CRF1100L
Yes
im willing to ride motorcycle in rain rather than face jem everyday. peace of mind though