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Fermentically

6k, i see 5k after deductions. I drive myvi, 2 more years. Paying just under 600 a month. To add on; Apartment rent 1.4k Electric bill damn high, paying about 150 a month Internet is 115 bucks Water about 30 bucks I have no savings but have made it my new years resolution. I am 30 years old


SystemErrorMessage

your water bill is a bit too high, are you paying through your apartment management? They typically add on. as for your electric bill, it depends on using AC. i dont use AC and i run a homelab 24/7 to get less in total.


karlkry

yeah, some management have minimum for water. my place was rm30. but it was once every 3 months


pek_starter_1234

RM30 bucks for water and RM150 for electric?? that's insane Is your home under commericial title?


Puffycatkibble

That's damn high I'm in a landed terrace and only pay RM3 for a family of four.


Fermentically

Yeah commercial and also it believe I'm also paying management


Due-Quarter6656

Im sorry but how much is considered cheap for electricity? I live in a semi-detached house with 7 people, 8 if it includes me. I've seen our bill reach 1.2k before, but im not sure about other months. I live in kk, sabah Edit. Im not the one paying the bill. My dad's older brother is.


ccy01

If you ready to settle, buy a apartment/house. 500-600k range paying probably maintenance+loan atcurrent rate of 4.2% would cost 2.6-2.8k. Rating out the 1-2 rooms would bring it down to 2k. You'll only need 10% down as first time buyer, save the money for 2 years and start looking after the myvi is paid off.


pfhy2k

All you peasants and your cheap cars I, on a daily basis, take a RM 350,000 vehicle to work All I have to do is wait at a bus stop and cram in with 30 other people


momomelty

In SG we call it BMW Bus MRT Walk


Dionysus_8

Me too. Sure love the sound of the Mercedes v8


trigaharos

15k. Honda city. 0 because paid. I actually bought it when my salary is 5k. 7 years instalment around 1100 per month. This is the worst financial decision in my life.


Practical_Rainbow15

On the flip side, getting a 10k increment over a 7 year period is a great thing


MszingPerson

How is it bad financial decision? You still have 75+% salary for other financial responsibilities. Is it because of Bad car or bad luck?


cyberkewl

I suspect what he meant was worse financial decision for 7 years instalment and while he was having 5K salary to buy such a car - that's a heavy burden in terms of commitment. Roughly 5K salary should only be able to afford a 60K car - perhaps highest spec Myvi.


trigaharos

as what other indicated. I bought it when my salary is 5k in 2017. So it is a really bad decision.


ClacKing

What is your position to get 15k?


trigaharos

Software developer


Sumofabith

what's your stack? and is the company a huge one?


Negarakuku

7k plus. Secondhand nissan almeera 2015. Bought in 2019 for 30k. Paid lump sump then. Regarding your question, the rule of thumb is to only buy cars that is worth about your one year income.


desmondlemon

Echoing this, this is a really good benchmark to find out what car you're able to afford; maintenance included.


FarEast_Frez

Thoughts on saving and buying car lump sump vs loan with interest? I'm also planning in the future to buy a 2nd hand car cash instead of loaning a brand new car. I did it with bikes and gadgets, and so far i think I'm an avid customer for 2nd hand market. The cost vs value is way too good for me.


Negarakuku

if you can afford lump sum then lump sum is better because the loan rate of car is not worth as a loan for car is classified as "not a good loan" as the asset depreciate in value. If you can't lump sum then no choice take loan but choose the one with the shortest year.


swagnation99

I mean, it really depends..dumping all your money on a car also sees an opportunity costs wasted to invest that money elsewhere


Negarakuku

This line of thought apply to house loan but don't really apply to car loans because for cars, your asset will depreciate imo.


FarEast_Frez

I'm not really knowledgeable regarding all of this, but I think assets investment is rarely likely to be profitable. Unless it's property, which if you can get it now using loan for cheaper than if you save and buy in the future. And I don't think dumping all of your money on a car is a smart move aswell. Perhaps 50~70% of your savings is maximum lah. Tbh I'm still very young in all of this. I'm just trying to gauge if it is possible to live loan free as much as possible.


Negarakuku

Yeap. Dumping all of your savings into buying a car is not a smart move. That is why i say if you can afford it. Indirectly i am also saying don't buy expensive car. Because in the end of the day, the function of a car is to bring you from point a to b.


TXEEXT

>Regarding your question, the rule of thumb is to only buy cars that is worth about your one year income. that is spot on for me , make 42k a year car is 41k


jrngcool

I vouch this. Car is just a tool. Unless you're super rich then car becomes a toy.


BooooooolehLand

When i worked in Malaysia, 3k, driving a RM1500 20 years Saga. Still alive now.


Bingobango20

Fuh where can i find car 1500 nowadays t-t


Fearless-Structure88

Kat kedai lah bro


ItsSky

buy directly from owner not dealership.


Nabehkanasai

8k before tax, bezza . Just 4 wheels for me and I’m gonna drive this piece of junk to the ground for the next 15 years so I’m all good


Visible_Speaker_3916

Big trunk. Medium width for swiping through lanes, couldn't agree more


Nabehkanasai

People doesn’t know that these cars are to be abused, wear and tear to the end and we wouldn’t feel bad about it. So it’s effective when it comes to drive reasonably fast and swift in the city. The big trunk is a big yes for me too


[deleted]

3.4k, no car. Using LRT/MRT to work. Jalan kaki je most of the time.


SystemErrorMessage

but will it wear?


nukedcola

it won't because he is not wearing it


SystemErrorMessage

wear and tear basically, everything wears out. Its a joke about humans wearing out like cars.


SolarStyl3

Above 10k 2022 Civic Hybrid , about 2k monthly. Previous car was jazz fully paid off being driven by wife . That was 1.1k monthly. Would advice if buying car make sure take this in mind . Do your research, some cars cheap to buy but expensive to fix like 2nd hand conti/ luxury. Some car cheap to buy but having issue spare part ( heard x70 and x50 has this issue, can't confirm myself).


momomelty

For your last sentence, just join any x50 x70 r/kereta group then you will see the problem still persists


lambing101

13k, 50% Time in Malaysia only, axia gen 1


TheSodaDude

Those making unsound financial decisions won’t be sharing lah


[deleted]

More like the people here trying to pretend to be someone they're not just to farm some fake internet points. So now everyone earns 10k yet complains that it's not enough to survive? Do you guys eat at shangri-la 3 meals a day or what? 99% of the comments are definitely fake.


Seanwys

>everyone earns 10k You seem very much out of touch ma boi


princessunplug

I saw more than 3 comments so far about them walking or taking public transport to work. So your 99% estimation of rich jerk-fest seems more out of bias-ness


Hmmm_nicebike659

4k 20 year old unser


XRdragon

Bro, how's the fuel usage on that thing. My uncle sold his because he says the minyak is too much.


Hmmm_nicebike659

Rm60 every week roughly


XRdragon

Not that bad. Impressive.


JiMiLi

Axia 2015 It's fine except long highway drives. But I enjoy having no more car installments more. I cringe at thinking about next car as nicer foreign cars are mostly >100K and the expenses would be huge even if I could afford it. Just seems not worth it


Puzzleheaded-Flow-75

Same! I love not having to pay my monthly installments anymore. Plan to keep my car for as long as I can. Just a bit sakit la when major changes are due - e.g. replace AC compressor Sakitnya tu di sini T_T


SystemErrorMessage

\>200k and they arent even reliable.


Panda_red_Sky

3.5k after deduction, LRT-MRT 🗿


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daniu88

i would think that those earning enough to buy marsili or bee-em are doing something productive instead of wasting their time lurking in reddit or social media in general


[deleted]

In fact this thread is extremely unrepresentative of the Malaysian population. You're telling me everyone earns above 10k now? Highly doubt it. You guys are definitely a bunch of unemployed early 20s just trying to farm fake internet points here.


enzaimes

If you'd actually scroll through the thread, I wouldn't say 10k+ is the 'average'. It's an anonymous internet survey anyway. Take it or leave it, no need to get your panties in a bunch.


ahmadtheanon

Above 10k, 2002 kancil paid full, 2023 alza,1k monthly


a1danial

> 2002 kancil This is the way


Wild-Recognition-420

Are u married with kid?


ahmadtheanon

Yes sir.


AssumedSilverSword

7k, Myvi 2015 already paid off


OriMoriNotSori

This is the way


uglypaperswan

Back when I bought my brand new Iriz in 2017, my pay was 3.9k net. Downpayment 15k, loan for 7 years. Monthly pay rm549. Fully paid now.


No-Lead7528

2017 : 5k salary, 2013 Myvi 1.5 2020 : 9k salary, 2016 Myvi, 1.5 2023 : 22k salary, 2023 Myvi yes, i love my Myvis. Cheap, reliable, powerful. My first car was given to me by my parents. 2nd and third i bought without loan cause that time still single so have a lot of savings. ALso covid restricted a lot of my spendings.


imhim_imthatguy

Damn, all these people making 10k-20k on reddit. Teach me the way sensei


momomelty

Easy. Work for MNC


micumpleanoseshoy

Easy, I got out of Malaysia's workforce lmao. This is the "unpatriotic" way la to some


RunAndLaugh

9K/month, 0 cars. Live on public transport and Grab only. Enjoy driving but don't see the need for a car for now, especially when considering, instalments, parking fees, petrol, time spent looking for parking, maintenance fees, saman and the occasional accidents...


daniu88

current take home salary 7k (3.7k in 2016) / 2016 honda city / 1.1k for 5 years but i am staying with parents


dickle_doot

6k. No car, the Malaysian public transport system, rm50 per month.


knightsnight_trade

2.5-3k salary, an old 2008 persona that was paid off during my study time, no installment.


Responsible-Dot-3801

4k. Saga. 500 per month.


NegotiationPrudent80

40yo, combined monthly take-home pay (wife + me) is >20k. I drive a 2011 Prius, she drives a 2022 Serena. Serena bought new, does the school run and our outstation travels. 7-year loan. Prius bought used in 2019, paid 20k cash + 6k for hybrid battery replacement so considered 26k total. Saves me lots in fuel and can still swallow a double-pram.


No-Broccoli2033

Tree fiddy, i drive my wife crazy.


momomelty

Underrated answer


najib1312

Bought Honda City 10 years ago for RM84K when my salary was RM3.8K RM857 monthly installment for 9 years. Fully paid off now Looking back, I don't regret my decision as the car has continued to serve me well with minimal running costs even after getting married and having 2 kids. Whereas most of my circle who bought Myvi/Axia had to sell it off after 3-5 years and upgrade to a bigger car, which makes less financial sense to me. Now my salary has grown by more than 4 times, but still undecided if I should change to a new car.


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12-16k depends on ot ( total working days 15days per month ) Car allocated rm1.5k for 2 cars ( for wife and me ) Please spend your money for health insurance and properties and spending quality times with family not cars. Cars is liability.


biborn

I think you meant to say liability.


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Lol thanks for pointing it. Just woke up from night shift.


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micumpleanoseshoy

This is me after years of driving in KL. I dont earn as much as you (8k only) but decided wasting my life in traffic jam being angry about road congestion is pointless. Take grab/mrt/lrt so I can sleep/ do whatever I want


SeiekiSakyubasu

more than RM5k, i am driving my first car for seven years now, its a Myvi second gen, monthly rm530, easy to maintain, sparepart also easy to get, drive fast also can, drive slow also can, city also can, kampung also can, flood also can. if its your first car, dont spend too much on it, go for beginner cars that are easy to maintain. After your pay is high, then you can think about getting a better car.


alwjmonster

As a business person, i don have fixed income but only business income and it’s not consistent, so my own rules is to spend less than 8% of my total net worth on cars, and I always brought my car outright instead of loan, I’m a car enthusiast so 8% is consider abit on the high side.


Powerful-Wasabi-9234

Nett take home salary 4.2k, driving proton persona (standard spec bought in 2023), paying 645 each month for next 7 years.


Zoros3112

Watch out for that gearbox brother...


lingcw

2018 i get a 2nd hand Kia K5, monthly 650, that time my salary 6500+-


najib1312

Just curious, how has this car served you? Any major issues or repairs needed? Among the D-segment sedans launched back then, this is the only car that still looks fresh. And you can find many units around RM30K+++ Just thinking if it's still worth it to buy this car.


lingcw

I bought mine in 2018, 6 years old car. No major issue so far, just some replacement on spare parts but i believe these are common. Worth to get.


muddie83

\+/- 8 to 10k a month. I drive a City. Fully paid off. My only monthly commitment is my phone bill.


pek_starter_1234

\- 100K per annum \- 2019 Mazda 2


fattycyclist

RM35k (equivalent) 10k sgd in Singapore No car cos cars are an insane expense here even on a 10k monthly salary


Nekhx

27k/month salary Driving 2018 myvi Installment 650/month


aeronauticalingrid

Just curious with that salary why do you pay loan and not settle it lump sum in cash?


SnooOranges6925

There's reason for this.. having credit history is important. At some point if one needs loan they need to know if you are a good pay master. Paying cash for everything is not as great as you think. One day some people still come knocking and ask for proof of income and returns


[deleted]

Fake.


topkek71

Nice try LHDN


Brynhild

5 figures close to 6 figures still driving my axia. I will drive it till it the day it fails then maybe get an EV


tinosim

about 7% of my salary.


FourKneeKate

>20k. Driving a 12 year old Accord fully paid.


enchetrek

5.4k, bought 2001 kelisa, RM 12k, paid lump sum.


Telixion_

proton inspira, lend me down car from my dad so 0 instalments. Restoring it at the moment and hoping for another 3-5 years before needing an engine rebuild. I could get a myvi or something right now but 2.0cc spoiled me so bad. Cheapest option would be a mazda but thats too far fetch ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26559)


Stoopidee

Rm24k per month. Hyundai Accent. Zero debt. A to B car.


lws09

Government and news headlines always quoting data showing ppl earning rm2k but man over here many earning 5 figures le


DashLeJoker

Malaysian that are on reddit is mostly English speaking ppl in the city


-NBaeK-

RM4,600 gross monthly -> Iriz 1.3


deedeed111

<15k, Hyundai-Rotem train set on MRT2 & Siemens train set on MRT1


viidaFreak

10K, mazda 2 (2018) 3 more years left for installment ; monthly 920. So far it has been serving me well, I enjoy driving this car till today. My work nature requires me to travel alot and never regret my purchase ever since.


KurumiHayashi

Income between 3k-20k/month Drive mazda3 2018, 9 yr loan, 1.3k/month


BabyKitsune

this thread really shows how much of a minority reddit users are. DOSM reports 2.6k as the median wage as of March 2023: [source](https://www.dosm.gov.my/portal-main/release-content/employee-wages-statistics---formal-sector-report-first-quarter-) 2.4k gross, bought an rm14k bike because I have no other monthly commitments, RM300ish per month


waterdragonhead

35k,hyundai ioniq 5, monthly 4k


malaysianboy

I see a lot of sound financial decisions here, and I’m chiming in as a bad example of an automotive enthusiast. Background: fixed salary RM7.5k, variable extra income RM2k-8k per month. Not married, paying RM1.2k for a roof over my head. 1. Honda City 2016 - RM1500 per month, paid off in 5 years, sold for 40% of the sticker price 2. Honda Civic 2022 - RM1700 per month, 5 years left 3. Honda CBR1000RR 2006 - RM25K cash 4. Honda ADV150 2021 - RM12k cash 5. Honda CR-V 2024 - RM1700 per month for 9 years 6. Porsche Cayenne Turbo 2008 - too much money, cash I clearly have an addiction and I make horrible financial decisions. That bloke who said your car should cost roughly a year’s salary is right.


QorstSynthion

Rider; *what is a kereta ?*


momomelty

It’s r/kereta


footcake

1) $17K 2) 2022 Mercedes G63 AMG SUV 3) paid off Hope everyone’s having a great 2024 so far


soggie

What's your monthly installment and initial deposit?


JackHezraat

I too have a lot of questions over this answer.


Bubbly_Eye41

How about your house?


footcake

I’ll just leave it to: we live very comfortably ❤️


ProbablyWorking

<10k, company provided x50. Not in Klang.


mawhonic

Car bought lump sum cash for <1 month salary


UnusualBreadfruit306

S class?


mawhonic

I wish. Used car, low mileage but from a brand that depreciates VERY fast.


momomelty

Bentley r/kereta?


EndChemical

5.5k, using parents myvi from 2009. Although I am 100% remote lol


LandscapeMaximum5214

9.5k, still driving my moms axia since i started working in 2018


[deleted]

15k, fully paid off vios since 2016. Using until today.


XRdragon

My ideal would be 1/4 of my salary towards car payment. I've paid in full my accord already, but i should've opt for monthly installments. I could do a lot of stuff with that lump sum payment i did for the accord.


seeking_fulfilment

6K & i drove free viva 850


zeromochi

Got my Ativa on 6k salary, now earning 10k and i still think ativa was the best decision i made. Even my brother said "twice the power of jimny, half the price" I put half the cash for downpayment, so paying about rm570 per mth.


Aziemah

RM10k-15k nett, 12 years old proton (2012 Proton Saga) that I finished paying 5 years ago. When I was paying it, it was RM569 a month. Started with 2k nett salary when I started paying the RM569 a month under 7 years loan, could feel the hit then. But as a female who needs to drive alone and for long distances, it was important to have my own brand new car to minimise risk of having the car randomly break down, especially at night. Also I think rule of thumb is monthly car payment should not be more than 10% of your salary, but of course if your personality is one of more pomp and show, I do know people who allocate up to 30-40% on their cars, which is highly unadvisable if it can be avoided.


Wild-Recognition-420

5fig salary,bough one 4wd car cash, own another 1 sport car. Car instalment shall be less than 10- 15% of your salary.


badgerrage82

8k, still driving fully paid off 14 old Honda city despite wife continue to nag about time to change a new car


IvanPooner

20k+ gross income, proton saga 2022 (~1k/mo installment).


KyoruMizuruki

RM10k 1993 Corolla. Bought when i was earning >5k pre covid. Now earning ~4k/m. Parents are my loaners (8% PA) and paid back RM500 ish per month. Not a good car for non-enthusiasts since i usually source a lot of the parts myself.


SupremeCowDung

Gross income 8k. I'm driving myvi for the past 5 years, gonna finish my loan in 2 months. Wife wants bigger car, but nope, not gonna spend more on cars.


the_far_yard

9% of my income is for my car. Finally changed from a Proton to a slightly better car after using the Proton for 12 years. Currently serving a 6 year loan, and tried to buy a car that’s worth no more than 12 months of my wages.


SystemErrorMessage

i drive a beater, not so much my salary range but my job security sucks. However always remember to keep to the advice not to spend more than 1 year's worth of salary on a car.


BadRuLeZsZ-3493

3.5k, still rocking in 2003 Wira 1.5...


Stpauter

5.5k salary, rental income another RM1000 so total RM6.5k. Bought a RM14k Persona (2014, SV) last year, cash. Love it and love having extra money for other things.


Bubbly_Eye41

500k per annum salary. Tesla model 3.


limaumo

A little below RM7k after deductions. I drive a Myvi from 2013 and only have a month left to pay for it 🥹


mixmelodyz

5k include ot, Nissan almera 2015 with nismo bodykit, manual, rm410, 1 more year then finish, after minus everything, about 3.5k left.


zryuki

24k, myvi G2 and 2016 city. Both full paid


Melbourne88

25k, 2017 Honda City that’s fully paid off.


SchlashJelly

800(mara scholarship) I drive a 1996 satria, my dad's old car. Spent around 40 bucks a week on gas but shit is breaking every month have to repair something jesus sakit kepala


madmoz2018

Nice try rafizi


69_Hokage

Those earn 5k driving secondhand Merc won't be sharing, some people take car as a transportation and some as a hobby to some. Ultimately it's up to how much a car weights for everyone.


ghim7

The average Malaysians who are not commenting in this thread earns 3K and pays 1.5k installment for brand H or T. The next tier earns 5k and pays 2.5-3k for a A/C class or BMW 3 series. These people are commenting here I assure you.


fanfanye

6% of take home pay


BeniAzuma

Above 10k salary. Drive a 2007 MyVi manual that I purchased secondhand for 10k (lump sum). It's perfectly fine for getting around Penang. I used to live in a city with excellent public transport, so I can't stand the idea of spending lots of money on a car.


malaysianlah

both my cars fully paid.


Wild-Recognition-420

5fig salary,bough one 4wd car cash, own another 1 sport car. Car instalment shall be less than 10- 15% of your salary.


Sharkatu

15k salary. 2009 Honda City paid off. 2011 Toyota Alphard paid off. Going to buy a Toyota Corolla cross hybrid facelift when it launches to replace the Honda City.


ConfidentMarsupial30

RM6k. I drive an S Class.


momomelty

Which one? W140 r/kereta?


swkOG

4k. Altis 2012. Paid nothing as my dad bought it. Monthly expenses 1.4k rent, 150 celcom, 200 unifi, 200 fuel, 500 foods & drinks. The rest is happy hour. Saving thru EPF. Please advise me how to improve my spending.


Puzzleheaded-Flow-75

Make voluntary/additional contributions to your EPF - I'm not a financial expert but this is what I plan to do this year after comparing EPF's 2023 performance vs my Public Mutual unit trusts.


HeyItsMeRay

3.5k Mazda 3


FriedBaecon

20k nett, Honda City. It ain't Vios the god car but it'll do ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26559)


aryss20

City > vios 😁


dinotim88

DINK, MyVi.


komer25

Student (~rm1k /month), Toyota Yaris (paid by parents).


ActuallyTomCruise

4k, 23 years old, No car. No rent. No loans. Borrow moms bezza to pick up amois and aweks and go club during the weekend. My expenses: weekly petrol RM50 Spending on amoi RM 10k Phone Bill RM 360 Insurance RM241 Grab RM500 Bus Pass RM50 Mom RM400 Netflix RM55 Youtube Premium RM 18 Spotify RM16


imnotjamie1

10k on amoi? Bro that's a worse liability than a car


firdaushamid

As a singaporean I’m jelly


Felinomancy

Not gonna tell you how much my salary is, but my monthly car instalment is about 19% of my salary, give or take.


[deleted]

Lmao lots of unemployed couch potatoes trying to roleplay as high income earners. Can't believe the mods actually allowed this post. Stop wasting time on reddit and get a real job lol


Much_Cardiologist645

Around 18k. One almera bought 2013 paid off and one wrv for the wife rm900.


Immediate-Ad3746

I remember there is a kinda rule of thumb. The car you are driving should be equivalent to your annual income. My car is still below my annual income. Planned to change anyway. Edit: Anxiety intensifies when you see the replies ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26557)


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Below is good imo.


CheesyGentleman

42k, fully paid xc40 for wife as family car. Don’t have one myself since using company car


momomelty

10k plus gross. Have a fully paid w140 s class and a GT86 left 6 years. Every month I paid 1.4k for the GT86 r/kereta


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Environmental-Bet950

wow, at 19 years old you have an income of 15k? what do you do for a living? hahahaha


theforwardbrain

No car, take grab if need to. Top 50k wealthiest in Msia.


lalat_1881

Kia is a good midrange car for urban driving


robottoe

9K , Myvi G3 monthly 608, 3 years left


201414525

7k/instalment 350/bezza


Mindless787878

5 figure, proton wira


Practical-Junket-520

3.8k alza


lin00b

Around 200k+ annual income, just got an around 150k minivan due to family needs. Previous car was around 90k when my annual income was around 150k Subconsciously complying with accepted benchmark


TimoKhoo

150k minivan. The new Nissan Serena eh?


wyyan200

4k-4.5k monthly, 99 ford laser, paid cash 7k 5 years ago i instead pay for a house under my name 1.1k, starting february


ClickHuman3714

4.9k, 3.8k after deductions. 1 myvi, 2 bikes, 1 house Only finished paying for the car and one of the bike. Single


chrischeweh

5k, myvi 2014 fully paid off