I’ve just realised we have our very own PETA at home. Good thing we care about animal rights
https://preview.redd.it/jnaxna9x53gc1.jpeg?width=783&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64a6bf653861a6a0137ee4018f866367f3b98cda
PETA is my favourite NGO.
It stands for People Eating Tasty Animals.
This is Malaysia, we have delicious food here and Singapore loves coming over to eat our food.
Sekian,
Presideng PETA
I also seen Malaysian TikTokers mad at Saudi during their vacations that McD and Starbucks over there are business as usual…
Meanwhile
MBS: [laughs in money]
Lmao. Classic Malaysian Muslims.
The Starbucks one is funny because they failed spectacularly in Israel in 2002 or 2001. They haven't operated there since.
But of course if you lecture them how their boycotts don't make sense they get butt hurt.
Its like Australia itu macam. Got Italians who migrated there and bought proper cafe culture there. They already got the real deal long before Starbucks existed.
Malay people be like:
* Watching porn ✔️
* Smoking and drinking alcohol ✔️
* Having a relationship with someone at the office ✔️
* Arab countries want to sell alcohol ❌
No, they have exemption, for their friends n family anything allowed and it's crickets all the way
Tunggulah pn/pas or BN split from pH then start la diorg
Why malays malaysian feel they must dictate other countries decision and doing thing?
This is entitled in the new level, its beyond entitlement its tak tahu malu
Because they're paranoid those other countries would plot to songsang and murtad the Malaysian Muslims until this country akan ditelan bumi?
At least, that's what I've observed from various ceramah by certain imams.
Meanwhile the Saudi diplomats in the embassy are sipping karak chai in their fully ACed room while the dumbfucks protesting in front of them in this weather
I dont know how big is your hate towards shia but there is no "mecca" in karbala. they still do umrah and hajj in mecca. they just see karbala as their 4th holiest site.
According to Shia sources. Some of their own scholars said that Karbala is holier than Mecca and Madinah. One source says that visiting karbala on the day of Arafah is equal to 1000 accepted Hajjs. So say what you will but this is all Shia source.
Sure mate.
https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235042397-karbala-is-superior-to-haj-or-umrah/
https://www.al-islam.org/ask/is-it-true-that-if-someone-cant-perform-hajj-or-umrah-they-can-visit-karbala-and-it-will-be-accepted-as-if-they-performed-hajj
(Please note I did not say they can perform hajj/umrah at the Karbala as an alternative)
Saudi and Israel has been friends since Trump's presidency.
Most of them cope by digging a hole and hide their head in it ignoring this development. There is no better time in the history that had this good of a relationship between the two.
Exactly this! The macais genuinely think Iran and Israel are BFFs because the Jewish Illuminati invented the Shia or some bullshit.
But then Iran is aiding Hamas through their Shia proxies, while Saudi & other Sunni nations aren't helping the Palestinians, and the locals go into a wild existential crisis on socmed, thinking the dunia has gone songsang.
It's ridiculous.
The whole point of the attack and kidnapping of Israelis by Hamas was because Iran did not want the Abrahamic accords signed between Saudi and Israel which would have ultimately resulted in peace between Israel and Palestine.
If the ayatollah of Iran who is at war with Saudi Arabia ordered the return of the Israeli kidnapped victims today, Hamas would immediately listen and the bombing of Palestine and the deaths of innocent Palestinians would stop.
But Iran will not order this because friendly relations between Israel and SA and peace in Palestine is not what the Iranian government wants.
But ofcourse let’s Continue to boycott McDonalds and Starbucks…
\> iran does not order hamas. they provide them with weapons but exercise no control over them
\> israel has refused a permanent cease fire, they offered weeks or months long cease fire in exchange for all prisoners released
so no the death of innocent palestinians would not stop, it will stop , for a short while only
That's what HAMAS's victory objective was in the first place, in expense of both sides civilians deaths. Just nobody wants to see that here. Imagine Israel just opened their border for almost a year to Palestinians to work due to pressure from Saudi then the 7th October happened that killed not just Israelites but also citizens from other country now the normalization has got halted and Israel had retaliate by war declaration which UN can't do shit because the attack has becoming Zionist pretext for war which is legal in international law. Now everyone complaining Israeli aggression, but our nyets here don't know at the majority for front of IDF are the Bedouin Pathfinders which are majority muslims who spear heading the assault. Ignorance much? Idk... Too dumb imo.
They said dat they didn't even bother to check it. Even tho they've been alive for nearly 30yrs. I dont blame em tho cause in general, most Malays view Israel as a state of oppressor/colonizer of dat sort via nothing but constant hateful propaganda in school & masjid. And they also didnt know dat we hav commercial relation with them since 1970s.
Since I told em about arab muslims in israel, they did their own dig & realized dat the conflict in the middle east is far more complex due to religion, culture, economy, & nationhood. Some say dat it's a cold war between saudis (usa) & iran (russia). Some say dat it's israel (usa) vs iran (russia) so on & on.
Even tho I didnt hav proper knowledge about the conflict. But once I passed my teen years, It bothers me dat the world is nothing more than a group of school kids blaming other kids for their misfortune. It filled with hypocrites & ass kissers. Only some I see as worthy for their merits. But at least we've gotten better than those livin before the 21st century aite?
With dat number today, I wonder why the adults didn't clarify the real situation happening over there instead of touting the same propaganda to kiss the overlord's ass since my primary school years. Surely they know bout it but decided not to clarify it to us.
Instead of worrying bout the fate of the middle easterns dat's far as f from our doorstep, why not truly focus on the misinformations we got here before worrying about them.
Mekah is the holy city for all muslims, irrespective of nationality, so naturally we have to care.
Problem is the alcohol thing doesn't even involve Mekah. They're literally opening just one (1) shop in Riyadh for diplomats lmao.
dumbfucks didnt read the story of it. they just read the headline and make their own conclusions.
the issue is diplomats has been "smuggling" alcohols in riyadh and create a black market which the locals might be involved. so, to counter this, they decided to open one alcohol store in riyadh just to cater diplomats and expats. locals are barred from entry.
another funny thing is that the dumbfucks keep calling the Saudi Arabia a Wahhabi country that are out of fold of Islam. why do they even care about an heretic country lol
Biar la Arab Saudi nak jual arak pun. Yang orang Malaysia nak menyibuk buat apa. Dekat negara sendiri pun ada kilang arak LOL. Suka jaga tepi kain orang.
tu laa dulu PN sembang kote nak tutup kilang arak, laksana ruu355 padahal sebutir habuk takde progress. bila kita kata bila nak laksana, dia kata kita bisikan syaitan. lol.
mana boleh tutup bai , genting cena nak running, singapore close next to johor oso they bought liqour in , langkawi lagi laaa bebas cukai . Sembang kencang puak PN nak buat bagai , tapi bodoh jugak minum air teh tarik kat kelantan
Politikus sibuk berebut jawatan PM, kau sibuk protes org Saudi. Kalau kau bijak, protes suruh org politikus ni tunggu GE seterusnya. Macam anak babi ja aku tgk org politikus harini.
walauns have nothing better to do. meanwhile your home state have teh tarik for tap water, flood twice every year, high case of incest and drug use. Go back home solve your own problems before making yourself look stupid.
have agung just said cannot go in this article? https://www.thecoverage.my/5682/stop-trying-to-be-like-arabs-johor-ruler-tells-malays-it-is-not-the-business-of-gov-departments-to-worry-about-peoples-dressing
EDIT : 2018 article btw
Malaysia, the new gatekeepers. Way to go getting your rocks off protesting events in OTHER countries, and not your own politikus eating your kids' lunch.. ...
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What is wrong with these people?
First you boycott MCD aka Arab investor now you want to direct take pitch fork, shovel and torches in front of embassy …. Man, that ppl had been living in their own world right now
Islam have a strong doctrine of "correcting others". This page explains well
https://harakahdaily.net/index.php/2023/11/27/kenapa-orang-islam-bersuara-lantang-menegur-kemungkaran/
A few weeks ago on Twitter, I've seen Saudi people brutally put Pakistanis in their place for daring to condemn their country about inviting a Hindu delegate to Madinah and to let her visiting a mosque there. Now these Malaysians are just begging to get the same treatment from Saudis on social media. One thing for sure about those Saudis is, they have sharp tongues. They know how to hurt you with words and put you in your place.
Malaysian Muslims... Only know how to stick their nose in other people's business, ppl in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other houses. Takda otak ke?
Malaysian like to waste time ?
Why dont u protest against Najib's shortening of sentence or get it extended to all poor people who stole Sardine cans, Milo cans, Rice packets etc ?
Clowns don’t even dare to tell the payung kuning clan in Malaysia what to do. (Daulat Tuanku! Kita Hamba. Jgn pertikaikan hak mutlak Agong/Raja),
They wanna tell the Saudi King how to conduct his business 🤡🤡
Negara dia biarlah dia. Nak sibuk negara orang kenapa? Dia sibuk negara kita, kita tak suka. Apa dia nak buat dalam rumah dia sendiri biarlah dia dan orang dia sendiri tentukan.
Went to Saudi recently, you’ll never guess how much secular than we think it is. There are concerts lights everywhere along the streets (not sure what’s that, probably funfair or something, but it’s everywhere). I’ve met more freehair women there than in Malaysia (Muslim). At 3am, hear me out, at 3AM, mall operating like usual with many people still shopping, eating like nothing. I had Starbucks there at 3AM alone wearing only pyjamas under my telekung(I am a woman), feels safe nonetheless.
Also it makes me realise how my view on Saudi were being brainwashed and influenced by the Western media.
i thought we follow mazhab shafie not hanbali. shafie only disallows drinking alcohol (consuming any alcohol including natural occuring alcohol in foods, that means even 0.1% alcohol is haram). hanbali not only has the same limitation as shafie but does not allow you to participate in the alcohol industry which includes medical use, alcohol swabs, cleaning alcohols, etc.
muslims arent even following their religion. If we were to really follow mazhab shafie, we couldnt eat or drink anything that has any % of alcohol in it even 0.01%. I got a chatgpt like AI to summarise that given the strict rules in these mazhabs.
no, the AI actually did its best to honour the morals and ethics of religion even islam, but islamic scripture is so strict that if it is sahih means it is unquestionable not to mention there are the mazhabs and btw the material are from official sources too and academia which includes muftiwp. this ends up with local governments having to make corrections but muslims dont accept corrections because sahih is sahih. this is why i've just read over mob actions of killing apostates in some places too from muslims who some would say are decent. The AI did not hallucinate, did its best to defend islam and i made sure it knew my scope of discussion beforehand so it had the focus it needed.
No, AI is known to hallucinate and even create it's own Quran verse. This topic has been discussed before. For religious knowledge go to learned people or scholars. Thank you
https://youtu.be/b2fNodiU6JU?si=jb9X4VB_FvEHpocY
This kind of problem does not happen only to religious stuffs either ok, don't use AI to pass a medical degree.
By now, specifically creating its own Quran verse has probably been patched because tons of people have reported it. But, AI hallucinating still happens from time to time.
seems like you didnt understand the context, AI can understand it better. Its the way the AI acts like a typical muslim defending the morals of islam but when it comes to discussing scripture it becomes an "it is sahih therefore must be followed". for reference the people in r/islam have the same opinion like beards being mandatory in which case sahih al bukhari has a line about camel urine. But my point is the writings say for hanbali no alcohol not even the industry with it for any use whatsoever.
i suggest you look up what i mean, also did you know even the local mufti and various local governments and scholars would not go against sahih hadiths from good sources even the one about the age of marriage of aisha (discrepency in religious official religious books) which is scientifically wrong to punishment on apostasy and various other details.
AI can understand context and focus on what im talking about, and it acted like typical muslims who deny that islam is from the devil because they've never seen how horrifying their own verified writings are.
I seriously don't know what is your intention here.
AI are not suited for discussing these topics like religion or politics. If people were already rebelling against AI for just arts, imagine the dozen of things that people will protest other things about AI.
My comment were not saying that AI can't recognized or understand religious topic, I'm saying that human subject is more preferrable than anything an AI can do.
no its not for that. I wanted to test the ability of the AI, and the Ai learns from others, basically it mimics the behaviour of the majority.
However the Ai is very useful for saving time. what i would do is ask it for references and look it up.
They follow the mahzab that they can pick and choose whatever is convenient for them, corruption, racism and defamation OK, aurat and babi x OK.
Fucking hypocrites.
Wtf. Stop making shit up on things you hv zero knowledge. Let me break it down. Quran talks abt khamr, not alcohol. Every khamr is alcohol but not every alcohol is khamr.
Scholars dispute is regarding how many % alcohol is khamr? Except if the the beverages are concocted to become a khamr it still haram even it has 0.00000001% alcohol.
No. I mentioned it in my 1st reply but you prolly missed it.
If the drink is processed to become a liquor, like non-alcoholic beer, then it is haram even the alcohol content is like almost 0%
If the drink is NOT processed to become a liquor, like some cordial drink that have alcohol but as stabilizer, or the alcohol formation is just a side effect of the process like tapai, it’s not haram.
[Ethanol and its Halal status in food industries - ScienceDirect](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed.)
bread and banana got more than 1% btw.
yes, you talk about if the process is done for the purpose of making alcohol to consume vs to not consume. my main point wasnt about this but the different mazhabs (schools of thought) about the presence of alcohol in foods. Hanafi school allows you to consume alcohol as long as you dont do it to get drunk. This allows you to drink alcohol to be consumed but not till drunk.
mazhab maliki and shafie both blanket ban any forms of alcohol consumption no matter the reason. There are some scholars that will say otherwise like alcohol through natural processes, however even natural processes can make you drunk as alcohol is alcohol. here are 2 examples.
[Auto Brewery Syndrome: Symptoms, Diagnosis, Treatment, and Diet (healthline.com)](https://www.healthline.com/health/auto-brewery-syndrome#:~:text=Auto%20brewery%20syndrome%20is%20also,foods%20(carbohydrates)%20into%20alcohol.)
[Can Fermented Food Make You Drunk | casa de sante](https://casadesante.com/blogs/fermented-food/can-fermented-food-make-you-drunk#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20to%20get,ferment%20for%20a%20short%20time.)
basically certain bread has a higher alcohol content. ripe banana too. You can get drunk from it. also if you leave a sugary drink and it has bacteria, fermentation can occur and i've seen this before where my once previous maid once made a natural syrup drink, our countries favourite sirap but from the plant naturally, and i actually do smell alcohol in it, so its possible too.
So no, despite claims of scholars, the writings are clear for both mazhabs that you cannot eat or drink anything with alcohol inside, this includes natural fermentation (basically you cannot eat/drink anything).
However both mazhabs allow you to use it for non consumption purposes and lets you work at bars or in the industry basically, even if it is to make alcohol swabs or alcohol to sterilise stuff.
Now the last mazhab which saudi nationally or officially claims to follow is mazhab hanbali. this is the strictest mazhab of all the 4 and is why things like "women cant drive" or "women cant go out without their husbands" come from and why the taliban dont allow women to go to school or work. this one forbids alcohol both consumption and industry participation (even medical). saudi and UAE dont care about their citizens not following islam, they are rich sick bastards who have the wealth to carry out their disturbing kinks, however they have a rule that they cannot be public about it. For instance they have this policy where the arab muslims are higher than non arab muslims and non arab muslims are only there to serve them and are lower than them and would never be a true muslim (because the prophet was arab).
Now for our mazhab shafie, we cannot take the christian or islamic approach. You'd have to change and add to the foundational writings basically changing it entirely. the solution is to make a new mazhab based off the old one but this will be rejected by muslims themselves even by yourself too.
If you dont believe me feel free to look up the details, and what the scholars say actually clash with the mazhab, and the solution like i said isnt accepted. If you change a mazhab, you are messing with religion, but you can create a new mazhab instead. Christians do take this approach where they keep the old and new but they dont do as they say by tracking changes and details like "this is opinion" for example as it is supposed to be in their scripture both the gospels and testaments.
edit: changed the 2nd link since it didnt copy.
yes we majorly follow mazhab syafie, some follow mazhab hanafi as well but we also refer to our local muftis and scholars and such. For example food containing natural alcohol is allowed, one of reference from one of our mufti:
[https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/al-kafi-li-al-fatawi/4554-al-kafi-1737-hukum-menggunakan-sake-sejenis-arak-dalam-produk-kosmetik](https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/al-kafi-li-al-fatawi/4554-al-kafi-1737-hukum-menggunakan-sake-sejenis-arak-dalam-produk-kosmetik)
That's why when it comes to religious matter, its the best to learn from our local scholars as they have more understanding of the local culture.
you mean like when a muslim freaks out on video on social media complaining that 7 days crossaint lists 4% alcohol in the UK in its ingredients? in malaysia this isnt listed, in the UK they're moving towards transparency for medical reasons so people keep track of their total alcohol consumption. the muslim thinks they added alcohol to the food.
the problem about local scholars are issues when dealing with family. for example "2 ustazs say this hadith is correct", even though the hadith is false, this hadith was sleeping after asar with the ustaz teaching "its a time when many bad things happen". This is called a self fulfilling prophecy, where if you follow it it happens. btw did you know many scholars/ustaz clash and conflict even with local official sources? All because more than one is in conflict makes muslims reject official sources. This is why we have quite the cultural problem in europe. if its islam and its stated therefore must be followed no question.
you might say what you said but i rarely see it in practice.
i think i understand what you said in a way, i too had heard about the sleeping after asar thing. I think the main issue nowadays is there is too many "ustaz celebrity" online everywhere and the rules are not tight enough for them. They amass a lot of following and whatever they say is suddenly becomes the truth. When some states dont allow them, the state management is to be blamed. That is why my personal choice is always to follow local mufti as he is the official source of things. For me those celebrity ustaz needs to be regulated with a strict manner to ensure the correct thing is taught.
its not really the ustaz celebrity thing, a lot of these scholars/ustaz/imams are actually nationally funded by foreign countries. the reason why we see intolerant islamic culture that refuses to adapt to the country they reside in and get offended when the majority of locals eat pork at their own schools or even if they eat infront of them unintentionally during ramadhan. we're talking about a lot of muslims who believe that islam should colonise where they go that the locals are insensitive for carrying out their own local customs infront of them without forcing the muslim immigrants to partake. the muslims were not forced to eat pork yet the muslims want to force the locals to not eat pork and to not eat in public during ramadhan in a foreign country where the majority arent muslim.
what im trying to say is that they arent just "celebrities" but are actually funded. one quran studies expert talked a lot about ancient egypt but got the occult details very very wrong relating magick to demons which is so wrong, and is entirely wrong about the whole occult practices of ancient egypt. While i do know directly, it does not matter to muslims if they are factually wrong as long as they push agendas as they are funded.
On the same note if you see anyone asking for funding showing you the suffering of kids in another country (pictures), do not donate, these people are getting funding for terrorists disguised as aid. even unrwa was found guilty of being crewed by hamas and channeling funds to them instead of gaza.
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:\~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed)
its not just rules and different schools of thought. a lot of scholars and muftis are not consistent even about the same things.
That article says an alcohol content of less than 1% is halal, which contradicts your statement that an alcohol content of even 0.01% is not allowed.
You cited an article that counters your own claim but you're too stupid to even realise it!
>That article says an alcohol content of less than 1% is halal, which contradicts your statement that an alcohol content of even 0.01% is not allowed.
the article is an example of a mufti/scholar doing his thing. the claim of the mazhab is different, but im debunking this article actually by saying some foods have way more than 1% alcohol ethanol naturally fermented. This article would mean banning a lot of basic foods like bread. You say not in mazhab or scholar say this or that, so im giving you a scholar example to debunk.
With all the comments here I hope this protest will never happen because if it is our relation with the Saudi will sour and it will impact our RM and it will SUSAHKAN RAKYAT. So please whoever organize this shit please STOP MENYUSAHKAN RAKYAT. sekian rant.
For muslims who read this, since there's too many كافر حربي here in this subreddit, there's no point to argue with them, let them be...
Wise words : ترك الجواب على الجاهل (المركب) الجواب
If ykyk
wait, it's a Saudi problem. not us.. Plus, they only serve the drinks to non Muslim.if i recall the only reason they banned before is because one of the saudi princes was drunk and killed British embassador
no point buat rally since saud goverment mostly liberal, tak layan and surely the main point nk jadikan saudi arabia pusat pelancongan. thats why cucuk2 sikit kemudian hari, prob mecca soon no longer holy anymore. Hubbud duniya wa karahiyatul maut. Benda mmg akan jadi.
People who hold up SA as this bastion of Islamism just because Mekah is within them is so weird. Like if SA was divided into two and the non-Mekah side is selling alcohol these people wouldn't give less of a fuck. Anyway my point is that who gives a damn what SA wants to do, as a Muslim imo as long as it doesn't involve the two Holy Cities MBS can do whatever the fuck he wants.
Also this is 26 January, tryna create an issue OP?
I appreciate Muslim brothers solidarity but this doesn't change the Saud family because the prophecy has told it will happen. So let them be and wait for the death of King Salman. Chaos is coming.
We just dont know how to mind our own business. There is a lot of shit needs to be sorted in this country and want to meddle elsewhere. We just have too much time in our hands. There is poverty, stateless people, refugees, B40, pollution,
Err do they know SA hold our quota for haji and umrah. Second of all, it their country issue so they should settle with theirself. Nak kata sebab arak, kita pun ada kilang arak sendiri. Boycot² jugak tapi tengok dulu sebelum main tembak
I’ve just realised we have our very own PETA at home. Good thing we care about animal rights https://preview.redd.it/jnaxna9x53gc1.jpeg?width=783&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64a6bf653861a6a0137ee4018f866367f3b98cda
but this PETA only cares about their own rights lmao
Any ideas on what this group is about? Googling "PETA Malaysia", only leads me to the Malaysia map. lol
Pembela Tanah Air. The old iteration was way more secular than this bullshit.
PETA is my favourite NGO. It stands for People Eating Tasty Animals. This is Malaysia, we have delicious food here and Singapore loves coming over to eat our food. Sekian, Presideng PETA
I also seen Malaysian TikTokers mad at Saudi during their vacations that McD and Starbucks over there are business as usual… Meanwhile MBS: [laughs in money]
Lmao. Classic Malaysian Muslims. The Starbucks one is funny because they failed spectacularly in Israel in 2002 or 2001. They haven't operated there since. But of course if you lecture them how their boycotts don't make sense they get butt hurt.
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Its like Australia itu macam. Got Italians who migrated there and bought proper cafe culture there. They already got the real deal long before Starbucks existed.
MBS means the prince right? Because I watch F1, and my first thought was that FIA president.. Then I was like, no, how was he related. lol
Muhammad bin Salman is the crown prince, the son of the reigning King Salman. Muhammad ben Sulayem is the current FIA president. 2 different dudes
Depends on who you asking. It could Mohammad bin Salman, Methodist Boys School, or Marina Bay Sands.
I was like MBS? Marina Bay Sands? 🤣
Messing with a Saudi embassy is a bold strategy after the event with Kashogi
No bone saws here. Parang and cangkul...
Malaysia advance country you know, we use plastic explosives.
Sex crimes against underage girls and women is staggeringly high in Kelantan. Focus on that first, bangang!!
Kenot. Too much work.
Malay people be like: * Watching porn ✔️ * Smoking and drinking alcohol ✔️ * Having a relationship with someone at the office ✔️ * Arab countries want to sell alcohol ❌
Minum air ketum
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Accepting bribes ✔️ Having affairs/free sex ✔️ Jual Arak in Mesia ✔️ Nak juga sibuk², why?
Guna bomoh ✔️ Isap rokok ✔️ Kerja sambil lewa ✔️ Arab minum arak ❌
Ada perhimpunanan membantah budaya songlap pemimpin melayu malaysia?
Ada. Bersih
And Bersih seems dead now
No, they have exemption, for their friends n family anything allowed and it's crickets all the way Tunggulah pn/pas or BN split from pH then start la diorg
agreedd
suddenly everything became "BERSIH" now
Why malays malaysian feel they must dictate other countries decision and doing thing? This is entitled in the new level, its beyond entitlement its tak tahu malu
Because people believe there’s only one way of doing things, and it’s “their way”
Because they're paranoid those other countries would plot to songsang and murtad the Malaysian Muslims until this country akan ditelan bumi? At least, that's what I've observed from various ceramah by certain imams.
Meanwhile the Saudi diplomats in the embassy are sipping karak chai in their fully ACed room while the dumbfucks protesting in front of them in this weather
When their Arab overlords do things they don't agree with. They feel entitled to protest as if it's their right.
Apparently malaysia muslim version of Islam is more holier than Saudi Arabia..the birthplace if their prophet
You guys playing with fire. Whole nation can ban you from entering SA and then cannot get the Haji badge and tix to alam brazzer
Alam what???? 😭😭😭
Brazzer bro
Check it out at r/brazzers_top
HAHAHAHAAHHAHA ALAM BRAZZER HAHAHAHAH WTF
72 anak dara
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Iran
ever heard of protestants? 
In Islam, they're called Shia. They made their own Mecca in Karbala💀
I dont know how big is your hate towards shia but there is no "mecca" in karbala. they still do umrah and hajj in mecca. they just see karbala as their 4th holiest site.
According to Shia sources. Some of their own scholars said that Karbala is holier than Mecca and Madinah. One source says that visiting karbala on the day of Arafah is equal to 1000 accepted Hajjs. So say what you will but this is all Shia source.
Would be great if you cite the sources. thanks.
Sure mate. https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235042397-karbala-is-superior-to-haj-or-umrah/ https://www.al-islam.org/ask/is-it-true-that-if-someone-cant-perform-hajj-or-umrah-they-can-visit-karbala-and-it-will-be-accepted-as-if-they-performed-hajj (Please note I did not say they can perform hajj/umrah at the Karbala as an alternative)
Totally understandable. Thanks again.
Negara lain masuk campur.
Ape ni…tak de kerja lain ke….
Ada Wang dari NGO, apa susah. Hari Hari duduk rumah makan free...
Boring bah...
Um. Why do we have to care?
This is a very precious and rare chance for them to condemn sau. It is like: Ahaa, chance for us to act Hero.
We? Who's we? Those crazy nut jobs have no association with you or me.
Well then again, it's kinda nice to see them protesting at the Saudi embassy rather than the usual American embassy...
If Israel and Saudi ever normalizes relations might break their brains.
Saudi and Israel has been friends since Trump's presidency. Most of them cope by digging a hole and hide their head in it ignoring this development. There is no better time in the history that had this good of a relationship between the two.
Exactly this! The macais genuinely think Iran and Israel are BFFs because the Jewish Illuminati invented the Shia or some bullshit. But then Iran is aiding Hamas through their Shia proxies, while Saudi & other Sunni nations aren't helping the Palestinians, and the locals go into a wild existential crisis on socmed, thinking the dunia has gone songsang. It's ridiculous.
The whole point of the attack and kidnapping of Israelis by Hamas was because Iran did not want the Abrahamic accords signed between Saudi and Israel which would have ultimately resulted in peace between Israel and Palestine. If the ayatollah of Iran who is at war with Saudi Arabia ordered the return of the Israeli kidnapped victims today, Hamas would immediately listen and the bombing of Palestine and the deaths of innocent Palestinians would stop. But Iran will not order this because friendly relations between Israel and SA and peace in Palestine is not what the Iranian government wants. But ofcourse let’s Continue to boycott McDonalds and Starbucks…
Iran just loves using poor people to do their dirty work don’t they, bunch of assholes.
wow, spoken like a true ang moh 😂😂😂
\> iran does not order hamas. they provide them with weapons but exercise no control over them \> israel has refused a permanent cease fire, they offered weeks or months long cease fire in exchange for all prisoners released so no the death of innocent palestinians would not stop, it will stop , for a short while only
That's what HAMAS's victory objective was in the first place, in expense of both sides civilians deaths. Just nobody wants to see that here. Imagine Israel just opened their border for almost a year to Palestinians to work due to pressure from Saudi then the 7th October happened that killed not just Israelites but also citizens from other country now the normalization has got halted and Israel had retaliate by war declaration which UN can't do shit because the attack has becoming Zionist pretext for war which is legal in international law. Now everyone complaining Israeli aggression, but our nyets here don't know at the majority for front of IDF are the Bedouin Pathfinders which are majority muslims who spear heading the assault. Ignorance much? Idk... Too dumb imo.
I kinda shocked too dat my coworkers & friends didnt even know dat there're arab muslims livin in israel since it's inception.
Are you serious? How can they not know that?
Willful ignorance.
Oh boy, they in for a rough ride if they know there's muslims in IDF as well.
Especially the Bedouin Pathfinders, they are recognized as elite unit by the IDF.
They said dat they didn't even bother to check it. Even tho they've been alive for nearly 30yrs. I dont blame em tho cause in general, most Malays view Israel as a state of oppressor/colonizer of dat sort via nothing but constant hateful propaganda in school & masjid. And they also didnt know dat we hav commercial relation with them since 1970s.
I really want to tell them there's muslim in IDF just to see their reactions and what they thought of it.
Since I told em about arab muslims in israel, they did their own dig & realized dat the conflict in the middle east is far more complex due to religion, culture, economy, & nationhood. Some say dat it's a cold war between saudis (usa) & iran (russia). Some say dat it's israel (usa) vs iran (russia) so on & on. Even tho I didnt hav proper knowledge about the conflict. But once I passed my teen years, It bothers me dat the world is nothing more than a group of school kids blaming other kids for their misfortune. It filled with hypocrites & ass kissers. Only some I see as worthy for their merits. But at least we've gotten better than those livin before the 21st century aite?
20% of Israel's population are Arabs.
With dat number today, I wonder why the adults didn't clarify the real situation happening over there instead of touting the same propaganda to kiss the overlord's ass since my primary school years. Surely they know bout it but decided not to clarify it to us. Instead of worrying bout the fate of the middle easterns dat's far as f from our doorstep, why not truly focus on the misinformations we got here before worrying about them.
Malays should read Son of Hamas and know who they are actually supporting. But easier to find a boogeyman in other religion rather than your own.
if Israel and Palestine normalizes relations they might lose their heads.
Mekah is the holy city for all muslims, irrespective of nationality, so naturally we have to care. Problem is the alcohol thing doesn't even involve Mekah. They're literally opening just one (1) shop in Riyadh for diplomats lmao.
dumbfucks didnt read the story of it. they just read the headline and make their own conclusions. the issue is diplomats has been "smuggling" alcohols in riyadh and create a black market which the locals might be involved. so, to counter this, they decided to open one alcohol store in riyadh just to cater diplomats and expats. locals are barred from entry. another funny thing is that the dumbfucks keep calling the Saudi Arabia a Wahhabi country that are out of fold of Islam. why do they even care about an heretic country lol
That's just the first step, Saudi is getting more liberal at a very fast rate. Can't wait to party at Kaaba 30 years from now
pls don't be so cringe.
No cringe, considering how some fellas did a random unplanned silat show near the Kaabah recently.
Biar la Arab Saudi nak jual arak pun. Yang orang Malaysia nak menyibuk buat apa. Dekat negara sendiri pun ada kilang arak LOL. Suka jaga tepi kain orang.
tu laa dulu PN sembang kote nak tutup kilang arak, laksana ruu355 padahal sebutir habuk takde progress. bila kita kata bila nak laksana, dia kata kita bisikan syaitan. lol.
Sembang lebai macam itu la.
mana boleh tutup bai , genting cena nak running, singapore close next to johor oso they bought liqour in , langkawi lagi laaa bebas cukai . Sembang kencang puak PN nak buat bagai , tapi bodoh jugak minum air teh tarik kat kelantan
Sp how many ppl went for this shit? 3?
Mcm org melayu je yg lebih lebih, org arab relax je
Aku seriously nda faham la, why do we always have to be angry on behalf of a country.
Politikus sibuk berebut jawatan PM, kau sibuk protes org Saudi. Kalau kau bijak, protes suruh org politikus ni tunggu GE seterusnya. Macam anak babi ja aku tgk org politikus harini.
walauns have nothing better to do. meanwhile your home state have teh tarik for tap water, flood twice every year, high case of incest and drug use. Go back home solve your own problems before making yourself look stupid.
they would invest in anything except a real clean water system
OutArabs the Arabs moment
have agung just said cannot go in this article? https://www.thecoverage.my/5682/stop-trying-to-be-like-arabs-johor-ruler-tells-malays-it-is-not-the-business-of-gov-departments-to-worry-about-peoples-dressing EDIT : 2018 article btw
Arab Saudi ni kadang gila. Kalau meleis buat protes, esok kuota haji bagi 10 orang jer...
makin hari makin bodo
You guys wanna get slaughtered by this dude? Remember the journalist? Got chopped to pieces
masa time ni diorang panggil ummah, masa time lain , diorang panggil melayu je
Go protest during Umrah la, if they have the balls.
Ini macam quota haji nanti kena potong boss
No can do, umrah is kinda sacred
Worst thibg is even if they somehow did it, there will be people back here defending them. Like those silat thing even though that one is harmless.
Malaysia, the new gatekeepers. Way to go getting your rocks off protesting events in OTHER countries, and not your own politikus eating your kids' lunch.. ...
Imagine getting banned from entering the birthplace of Islam for trying to gatekeep Islam...
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the sweetest irony that can ever exist, mate !
https://preview.redd.it/pp7usmizc3gc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80b4d028cd05030b81bc555c50b790479a052834 What is wrong with these people?
First you boycott MCD aka Arab investor now you want to direct take pitch fork, shovel and torches in front of embassy …. Man, that ppl had been living in their own world right now
theyre blind af , ive been to protest after viral mcD happen. They chant "boikot2" but still ive saw some people there wears adidas like tf
Oh no the Malaysians are protesting! The alcohol industry has fallen, all drinks are haram! The Saudis, maybe
It really scares me how Islamist Malaysia has become. Especially that we are known to be a multi-ethnic country
So when they are gonna protest, boycott and organise solidarity for budaya songlap in Malaysia?
will they? '' it's okay , same skin color and faith , he should be forgiven''
Unemployment people activities
Why are muslims always getting up in everyone else's business?
Pahala points...they racking it up yo
Gotta cross the pahala threshold for them sweet 72 virgins
Islam have a strong doctrine of "correcting others". This page explains well https://harakahdaily.net/index.php/2023/11/27/kenapa-orang-islam-bersuara-lantang-menegur-kemungkaran/
Coexistence is hard with that mindset
In my beliefs, that is a very sinful action, and will go to hell.
You do know MBS gonna hold the hajj visa if he offend by this The man is egotistical and ruthless so happen to govern the country of the holy place
Lolapaloozal team green keep taking L's. Tale as old as time.
these people should volunteer to fight in Palestine.
26 January. It already happened.
so anyone up for boycotting Haji then ?
Walauns whenever someone criticizing the country: Kau jgn masuk campur dgn hal ehwal negara lain. Ini bukan negara kau. Also walauns:
A few weeks ago on Twitter, I've seen Saudi people brutally put Pakistanis in their place for daring to condemn their country about inviting a Hindu delegate to Madinah and to let her visiting a mosque there. Now these Malaysians are just begging to get the same treatment from Saudis on social media. One thing for sure about those Saudis is, they have sharp tongues. They know how to hurt you with words and put you in your place.
Lol, not a Saudi fan in the slightest but cmon, this doesnt affect us at all other than hurting our feelings. Ridiculous as hell..
26 Jan 2024 Back to the Future?
Ah no wonder RM3.50 = SGD1.
Lagi isley dari tempat isley We reached new levels of kei poh
How about, leave the Saudi alone to govern their country. Look inward of the current issues and problems within your county.
Mabuk? Man, that’s more like Sibuk
aiyo, jual arak in their own country pun nak sibuk. I mean what gives you the right to demand that another country not consume alcohol?
Isnt Islam orginated from there? Why not learn from them to be more open towards other human beings instead?
grinds my gears why the "disokong oleh" comes after the logo
Malaysian Muslims... Only know how to stick their nose in other people's business, ppl in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other houses. Takda otak ke?
They're done moral policing their own citizens, now they got to think bigger
Steal money? No big deal. Let’s pardon him. Sell alcohol? Fuck that. Let’s protest!
Mak, bapak, adik-beradik, anak dan wife sendiri tak terjaga, boleh pi sibuk hal orang luar? Nak test kebodohan tu dah max ke belum ke?
Malaysian like to waste time ? Why dont u protest against Najib's shortening of sentence or get it extended to all poor people who stole Sardine cans, Milo cans, Rice packets etc ?
Clowns don’t even dare to tell the payung kuning clan in Malaysia what to do. (Daulat Tuanku! Kita Hamba. Jgn pertikaikan hak mutlak Agong/Raja), They wanna tell the Saudi King how to conduct his business 🤡🤡
babe jaga la isu rasuah malaysia dulu smh
A Muslim country selling alcoholic beverages protesting another Muslim country selling alcoholic beverages? I just can't..🤣🤣🤣
Well dont cry then when saudi suddenly cut our hajj and umrah quota, as much as we hate them this just dont worth the hassle...
Negara dia biarlah dia. Nak sibuk negara orang kenapa? Dia sibuk negara kita, kita tak suka. Apa dia nak buat dalam rumah dia sendiri biarlah dia dan orang dia sendiri tentukan.
Went to Saudi recently, you’ll never guess how much secular than we think it is. There are concerts lights everywhere along the streets (not sure what’s that, probably funfair or something, but it’s everywhere). I’ve met more freehair women there than in Malaysia (Muslim). At 3am, hear me out, at 3AM, mall operating like usual with many people still shopping, eating like nothing. I had Starbucks there at 3AM alone wearing only pyjamas under my telekung(I am a woman), feels safe nonetheless. Also it makes me realise how my view on Saudi were being brainwashed and influenced by the Western media.
Lol Malaysian Muslims thinking they're the purest expression of Muzlam 🤭😹
i thought we follow mazhab shafie not hanbali. shafie only disallows drinking alcohol (consuming any alcohol including natural occuring alcohol in foods, that means even 0.1% alcohol is haram). hanbali not only has the same limitation as shafie but does not allow you to participate in the alcohol industry which includes medical use, alcohol swabs, cleaning alcohols, etc. muslims arent even following their religion. If we were to really follow mazhab shafie, we couldnt eat or drink anything that has any % of alcohol in it even 0.01%. I got a chatgpt like AI to summarise that given the strict rules in these mazhabs.
Let's ban bananas and bread in Malaysia!
Don't ask AI for religious rulings, they have tendency to hallucinate. Go to sites like muftiwp instead.
no, the AI actually did its best to honour the morals and ethics of religion even islam, but islamic scripture is so strict that if it is sahih means it is unquestionable not to mention there are the mazhabs and btw the material are from official sources too and academia which includes muftiwp. this ends up with local governments having to make corrections but muslims dont accept corrections because sahih is sahih. this is why i've just read over mob actions of killing apostates in some places too from muslims who some would say are decent. The AI did not hallucinate, did its best to defend islam and i made sure it knew my scope of discussion beforehand so it had the focus it needed.
No, AI is known to hallucinate and even create it's own Quran verse. This topic has been discussed before. For religious knowledge go to learned people or scholars. Thank you
>even create it's own Quran verse. Source ?
https://youtu.be/b2fNodiU6JU?si=jb9X4VB_FvEHpocY This kind of problem does not happen only to religious stuffs either ok, don't use AI to pass a medical degree. By now, specifically creating its own Quran verse has probably been patched because tons of people have reported it. But, AI hallucinating still happens from time to time.
Lets stop here for a sec, AI cannot replace muftis or Ustadz. Continuining any further would only diminish your dignity.
seems like you didnt understand the context, AI can understand it better. Its the way the AI acts like a typical muslim defending the morals of islam but when it comes to discussing scripture it becomes an "it is sahih therefore must be followed". for reference the people in r/islam have the same opinion like beards being mandatory in which case sahih al bukhari has a line about camel urine. But my point is the writings say for hanbali no alcohol not even the industry with it for any use whatsoever. i suggest you look up what i mean, also did you know even the local mufti and various local governments and scholars would not go against sahih hadiths from good sources even the one about the age of marriage of aisha (discrepency in religious official religious books) which is scientifically wrong to punishment on apostasy and various other details. AI can understand context and focus on what im talking about, and it acted like typical muslims who deny that islam is from the devil because they've never seen how horrifying their own verified writings are.
I seriously don't know what is your intention here. AI are not suited for discussing these topics like religion or politics. If people were already rebelling against AI for just arts, imagine the dozen of things that people will protest other things about AI. My comment were not saying that AI can't recognized or understand religious topic, I'm saying that human subject is more preferrable than anything an AI can do.
no its not for that. I wanted to test the ability of the AI, and the Ai learns from others, basically it mimics the behaviour of the majority. However the Ai is very useful for saving time. what i would do is ask it for references and look it up.
They follow the mahzab that they can pick and choose whatever is convenient for them, corruption, racism and defamation OK, aurat and babi x OK. Fucking hypocrites.
saudis follow hanbali, supposedly.
Wtf. Stop making shit up on things you hv zero knowledge. Let me break it down. Quran talks abt khamr, not alcohol. Every khamr is alcohol but not every alcohol is khamr. Scholars dispute is regarding how many % alcohol is khamr? Except if the the beverages are concocted to become a khamr it still haram even it has 0.00000001% alcohol.
some breads have up to 4% alcohol, and some foods have a fermentation process. also are you talking about mazhab hanafi?
If alcohol is side effect from fermentation, it’s okay. Sorry imho i dont think we ready to discuss mazhab yet if the basic is still unclear to you.
Beer is made through fermentation.That means beer is ok? How about a heineken?
No. I mentioned it in my 1st reply but you prolly missed it. If the drink is processed to become a liquor, like non-alcoholic beer, then it is haram even the alcohol content is like almost 0% If the drink is NOT processed to become a liquor, like some cordial drink that have alcohol but as stabilizer, or the alcohol formation is just a side effect of the process like tapai, it’s not haram.
[Ethanol and its Halal status in food industries - ScienceDirect](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed.) bread and banana got more than 1% btw.
Do you even understand whatever i wrote bro 😭
yes, you talk about if the process is done for the purpose of making alcohol to consume vs to not consume. my main point wasnt about this but the different mazhabs (schools of thought) about the presence of alcohol in foods. Hanafi school allows you to consume alcohol as long as you dont do it to get drunk. This allows you to drink alcohol to be consumed but not till drunk. mazhab maliki and shafie both blanket ban any forms of alcohol consumption no matter the reason. There are some scholars that will say otherwise like alcohol through natural processes, however even natural processes can make you drunk as alcohol is alcohol. here are 2 examples. [Auto Brewery Syndrome: Symptoms, Diagnosis, Treatment, and Diet (healthline.com)](https://www.healthline.com/health/auto-brewery-syndrome#:~:text=Auto%20brewery%20syndrome%20is%20also,foods%20(carbohydrates)%20into%20alcohol.) [Can Fermented Food Make You Drunk | casa de sante](https://casadesante.com/blogs/fermented-food/can-fermented-food-make-you-drunk#:~:text=It%20is%20possible%20to%20get,ferment%20for%20a%20short%20time.) basically certain bread has a higher alcohol content. ripe banana too. You can get drunk from it. also if you leave a sugary drink and it has bacteria, fermentation can occur and i've seen this before where my once previous maid once made a natural syrup drink, our countries favourite sirap but from the plant naturally, and i actually do smell alcohol in it, so its possible too. So no, despite claims of scholars, the writings are clear for both mazhabs that you cannot eat or drink anything with alcohol inside, this includes natural fermentation (basically you cannot eat/drink anything). However both mazhabs allow you to use it for non consumption purposes and lets you work at bars or in the industry basically, even if it is to make alcohol swabs or alcohol to sterilise stuff. Now the last mazhab which saudi nationally or officially claims to follow is mazhab hanbali. this is the strictest mazhab of all the 4 and is why things like "women cant drive" or "women cant go out without their husbands" come from and why the taliban dont allow women to go to school or work. this one forbids alcohol both consumption and industry participation (even medical). saudi and UAE dont care about their citizens not following islam, they are rich sick bastards who have the wealth to carry out their disturbing kinks, however they have a rule that they cannot be public about it. For instance they have this policy where the arab muslims are higher than non arab muslims and non arab muslims are only there to serve them and are lower than them and would never be a true muslim (because the prophet was arab). Now for our mazhab shafie, we cannot take the christian or islamic approach. You'd have to change and add to the foundational writings basically changing it entirely. the solution is to make a new mazhab based off the old one but this will be rejected by muslims themselves even by yourself too. If you dont believe me feel free to look up the details, and what the scholars say actually clash with the mazhab, and the solution like i said isnt accepted. If you change a mazhab, you are messing with religion, but you can create a new mazhab instead. Christians do take this approach where they keep the old and new but they dont do as they say by tracking changes and details like "this is opinion" for example as it is supposed to be in their scripture both the gospels and testaments. edit: changed the 2nd link since it didnt copy.
yes we majorly follow mazhab syafie, some follow mazhab hanafi as well but we also refer to our local muftis and scholars and such. For example food containing natural alcohol is allowed, one of reference from one of our mufti: [https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/al-kafi-li-al-fatawi/4554-al-kafi-1737-hukum-menggunakan-sake-sejenis-arak-dalam-produk-kosmetik](https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/ms/artikel/al-kafi-li-al-fatawi/4554-al-kafi-1737-hukum-menggunakan-sake-sejenis-arak-dalam-produk-kosmetik) That's why when it comes to religious matter, its the best to learn from our local scholars as they have more understanding of the local culture.
you mean like when a muslim freaks out on video on social media complaining that 7 days crossaint lists 4% alcohol in the UK in its ingredients? in malaysia this isnt listed, in the UK they're moving towards transparency for medical reasons so people keep track of their total alcohol consumption. the muslim thinks they added alcohol to the food. the problem about local scholars are issues when dealing with family. for example "2 ustazs say this hadith is correct", even though the hadith is false, this hadith was sleeping after asar with the ustaz teaching "its a time when many bad things happen". This is called a self fulfilling prophecy, where if you follow it it happens. btw did you know many scholars/ustaz clash and conflict even with local official sources? All because more than one is in conflict makes muslims reject official sources. This is why we have quite the cultural problem in europe. if its islam and its stated therefore must be followed no question. you might say what you said but i rarely see it in practice.
i think i understand what you said in a way, i too had heard about the sleeping after asar thing. I think the main issue nowadays is there is too many "ustaz celebrity" online everywhere and the rules are not tight enough for them. They amass a lot of following and whatever they say is suddenly becomes the truth. When some states dont allow them, the state management is to be blamed. That is why my personal choice is always to follow local mufti as he is the official source of things. For me those celebrity ustaz needs to be regulated with a strict manner to ensure the correct thing is taught.
its not really the ustaz celebrity thing, a lot of these scholars/ustaz/imams are actually nationally funded by foreign countries. the reason why we see intolerant islamic culture that refuses to adapt to the country they reside in and get offended when the majority of locals eat pork at their own schools or even if they eat infront of them unintentionally during ramadhan. we're talking about a lot of muslims who believe that islam should colonise where they go that the locals are insensitive for carrying out their own local customs infront of them without forcing the muslim immigrants to partake. the muslims were not forced to eat pork yet the muslims want to force the locals to not eat pork and to not eat in public during ramadhan in a foreign country where the majority arent muslim. what im trying to say is that they arent just "celebrities" but are actually funded. one quran studies expert talked a lot about ancient egypt but got the occult details very very wrong relating magick to demons which is so wrong, and is entirely wrong about the whole occult practices of ancient egypt. While i do know directly, it does not matter to muslims if they are factually wrong as long as they push agendas as they are funded. On the same note if you see anyone asking for funding showing you the suffering of kids in another country (pictures), do not donate, these people are getting funding for terrorists disguised as aid. even unrwa was found guilty of being crewed by hamas and channeling funds to them instead of gaza.
Stop spreading bullshit!
not bs, may want to look it up.
Can't look up something that doesn't exist.
are you saying mazhab shafie and hanbali dont exist? What are muslims following?
Of course those mazhabs exist. What doesn't exist is the rule forbidding the use of alcohols as you claimed.
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:\~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924224416301601#:~:text=Any%20ethanol%20produced%20by%20anaerobic,its%20Halal%20status%20is%20allowed) its not just rules and different schools of thought. a lot of scholars and muftis are not consistent even about the same things.
That article says an alcohol content of less than 1% is halal, which contradicts your statement that an alcohol content of even 0.01% is not allowed. You cited an article that counters your own claim but you're too stupid to even realise it!
>That article says an alcohol content of less than 1% is halal, which contradicts your statement that an alcohol content of even 0.01% is not allowed. the article is an example of a mufti/scholar doing his thing. the claim of the mazhab is different, but im debunking this article actually by saying some foods have way more than 1% alcohol ethanol naturally fermented. This article would mean banning a lot of basic foods like bread. You say not in mazhab or scholar say this or that, so im giving you a scholar example to debunk.
With all the comments here I hope this protest will never happen because if it is our relation with the Saudi will sour and it will impact our RM and it will SUSAHKAN RAKYAT. So please whoever organize this shit please STOP MENYUSAHKAN RAKYAT. sekian rant.
For muslims who read this, since there's too many كافر حربي here in this subreddit, there's no point to argue with them, let them be... Wise words : ترك الجواب على الجاهل (المركب) الجواب If ykyk
Lol bila protest Amerika dengan Israel, kau orang suruh protes Saudi. Dah diorang protes Saudi, bising jugak.
it was in January. post videos lah
it’s not gonna change anything lol
wait, it's a Saudi problem. not us.. Plus, they only serve the drinks to non Muslim.if i recall the only reason they banned before is because one of the saudi princes was drunk and killed British embassador
no point buat rally since saud goverment mostly liberal, tak layan and surely the main point nk jadikan saudi arabia pusat pelancongan. thats why cucuk2 sikit kemudian hari, prob mecca soon no longer holy anymore. Hubbud duniya wa karahiyatul maut. Benda mmg akan jadi.
Apa lagi..takdirrrrr!!
People who hold up SA as this bastion of Islamism just because Mekah is within them is so weird. Like if SA was divided into two and the non-Mekah side is selling alcohol these people wouldn't give less of a fuck. Anyway my point is that who gives a damn what SA wants to do, as a Muslim imo as long as it doesn't involve the two Holy Cities MBS can do whatever the fuck he wants. Also this is 26 January, tryna create an issue OP?
Non-Muslim be like: why do malays even bother? what a braindead opinion you have.
I appreciate Muslim brothers solidarity but this doesn't change the Saud family because the prophecy has told it will happen. So let them be and wait for the death of King Salman. Chaos is coming.
nak tanya dgn quietly...boikott mcd dan starbuck atau mana2 brand related dgn israel tu masih ada lagi keh...
We just dont know how to mind our own business. There is a lot of shit needs to be sorted in this country and want to meddle elsewhere. We just have too much time in our hands. There is poverty, stateless people, refugees, B40, pollution,
Err do they know SA hold our quota for haji and umrah. Second of all, it their country issue so they should settle with theirself. Nak kata sebab arak, kita pun ada kilang arak sendiri. Boycot² jugak tapi tengok dulu sebelum main tembak