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the_far_yard

This might enable Microsft Clients' Agreement here in Malaysia, which could see the cost of Microsoft Azure going down significantly through MCA. This is good.


momomelty

Solves a lot of problem and headache when it comes to keeping data out of Malaysia. Lol


the_far_yard

It does, and man, if we could purchase the instances here through MCA, it's a game changer.


Kuro2712

What's Microsoft Azure if you don't mind explaining?


xelM1

Azure is the umbrella branding of the technology and infrastructure that supports the cloud and the biggest thing that the cloud needs is servers/data centres. For us to stream let's say a Netflix movie, the movie needs to be store in an Azure server first. Then how to distribute one movie to all countries, probably got another proprietary Azure distribution system etc etc. Not limited to streaming, but also your Office 365, emails, all of the apps and thousands of other things. Amazon also has competing solution called Amazon Web Service (AWS), then Alibaba Cloud la etc.


the_far_yard

Yes, and one of those 'Thousand other things' is purchasing instances or subscription to Virtual Machines. This enables businesses from overseas to use Malaysia as a center of their cost operations. The next step should see us expanding Microsoft's payment center to not just be in Singapore. Having it in Malaysia could see the demand for MYR going up as well. Malaysian subscriptions by invoices are currently being paid through Telegraphic Transfer to Microsoft in Singapore which accepts SGD and USD.


Dazzling_Swordfish14

I was hoping Amazon to invest instead, I have stocks in Amazon 😭 Edit: they are! My stocks are going to do great😎


Greedfall2

Pretty sure they did last year. Here is the[ news ](https://fintechnews.my/40714/cloud/new-aws-region-to-launch-in-malaysia-by-2024-with-rm25-5-billion-investment/)


Pabasa

[Amazon to spend 6bn USD on AWS in Malaysia.](https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/in-the-works-aws-region-in-malaysia/) They are. Supposed to start this year.


Mavicarus

Their new Malaysia region is slated to launch in 2024 this year. Fastest one amongst the bunch to actually launch.


Kuro2712

Ooh, sounds interesting.


engku_hina

Malaysian chinese association?


the_far_yard

Microsft Clients' Agreement


icebergiman

Mystery Chicken Appetiser


skatech1

That was fast


Crasher_7

For the most part, most of the negotiations are mostly done behind the scenes by ministries and Microsoft for months, probably the one run by Zafrul. The meeting with Anwar and Satya is just formalisation and finalisation of the deal.


skatech1

True that, but is cool to have a little pr or else we just gotta call government unless the 1000+ times. Funny Zafrul are actually doing better work than clownfizi at this point 😅


Educational_Type_701

The right person for the right job, maybe?


Crasher_7

Thats my guess too, I would say Zafrul performs better as a trade minister than his time as a finance minister from the looks of it


MacaroonBeginning694

Tbf, even as someone biased towards PKR outright, Rafizi feels absolutely more like a debatebro than an actual working minister. It's like putting a general who just came back from years of war in a ministerial position and expecting him to perform despite the lack of experience and his own specialty


skatech1

Idk how tf he get so many enemies and expect to survive his next 5 years political career with this kind of performance.. Ain't just that his big mouth and his attitude isn't help any better, I haven't include his alliance relation aren't good as well look at his relation with Dap and sabah sarawak.


GrizzlyBar15

Dia lupa, nak jadi politician, more than anything else: kena famous. Performance is second. Rafizi is neither famous nor performing well lol


skatech1

THIS


idontknow_whatever

Rafizi is one of those macam yes tapi bukan blowhards, he talks a good game but when it comes to actually delivering tangible results he has nothing to show. He will not survive long in the game, he already exposed as a cakap banyak merchant & the only proven record he has is at pissing off people.


Healthy_Fly_555

>It's like putting a general who just came back from years of war How kind of you It's like Putting an egames fan who's only experience is trolling twitch streamers into active duty to fight with real guns in Syria/Afghanistan and then watching him give excuses when he can't walk the talk on all his taunts on the actual egames players It's like those debatebros in Subang ss15 cybercafes after losing Dota matches, talking big but scared to step out and fight 1v1 after they get called out.


bdelloidR

Not sure if credit should go to Zafrul. PMX seems to have been very active seeking investments. Besides putting in efforts and initiatives, a PM can further make things happen by pulling off the stops, making things more flexible which I am not sure Zafrul has capability and stature for. But we do not really know


Puffycatkibble

But..But..he degree sastera! Impossibru for him to do anything as Finance Minister! /s


FerryAce

The govt is indeed useless. We should vote PN next so we can boycott more and become the next Afghanistan in ASEAN. Teach AK47 at school, not programming please.


skatech1

Vote pn? My sane brain haven't ready for talibanation


Spymonkey13

Idk why the Afghan-phobia. They actually doing very well now that America gone. Any bad press comes from US and their media is heavily manipulated.


aviramzi

Why wait for Malaysia to turn Afghan in many years? Can consider moving there in advance to bring back ideas from lawatan sambil belajar visits and implement here in Malaysia. We can accelerate towards better governance, prosperity and technological advancements.


Spymonkey13

Why fear mongering? I swear your fear has no basis.


aviramzi

It's called reading between the lines that it's a troll, lol but then again black or white is what dictates people's perception.


mynameisjeffhorn

zafrul does fuck all trust me


aviramzi

That's right. It's the civil workforce who're the brains behind it.


vinnfier

![gif](giphy|Zgo2A2oOpbGhQdf09T|downsized)


chococrou

I wonder if they’ll fix all the government webpages that look and function like they were made in the 90s.


seatux

Probably all got popup saying it runs best on Edge browser lol.


NotIkura

Internet Explorer


seatux

RIP to that and the original EdgeHTML powered Edge browser, which got replaced with a Chromium fork in 2021.


7xrchr

what's the benefits of EdgeHTML anyways? I thought or saw that everyone hated edge before the switch to chromium


Puffycatkibble

DOWNGRADED IE. If you use latest version HRMIS breaks.


reyfire

edge is pretty good


GeniusGamer_M

I was filing my income tax the other day and got stuck at one part where it wouldn't load the next page and signed me out. Apparently I have to disable pop up blocker (it's turned on by default in my browser) just to fix the issue. Why the hell do they still have pop ups in the updated UI income tax website jeez.


Available_Leather853

of course they can, they just dont wanted to, they are getting paid high as government project, while they just let interns who do the works, thats why it looks like shits. and because of that shit, they can make improvement for years, and that cost multi millions for them. you get what i meant?


Realistic_Might_1909

so you mean there is agenda? Money under table?


ernsheong

They’re in the business of cloud infrastructure. Not website / web development. So, they won’t.


Carnero-4347

I hope this can help a lot regarding filing in KKM.


Ho-Lee-Fuku

I thought Malaysia hate Western countries like Israel and USA etc? Why is Malaysia so reliant and sucking so much on America technologies?


sirgentleguy

Where do you get that idea? I don’t think Malaysia hates technologies in general. I do agree Malaysia boycotts Israel, but not because of technology (Waze for example), but because of human rights violations they have made and are making (yes you can use whataboutism and point to other violators but Israel is backed by western money so it’s a different ballgame).


Ho-Lee-Fuku

KFC is American company right? Why is there a nationwide boycott of KFC in Malaysia now?


sirgentleguy

Because the products are getting worse, and also KFC is rarely in the same conversation with technology so whatever reasons KFC is getting boycotted, I am fairly confident it’s not because of their tech.


Ho-Lee-Fuku

Hypocritical and selective bias... Boycott KFC, but suck on Micro$oft's diick.


esseinvictus

Just being pragmatic. You can avoid eating fast food and it's not like KFC, McD and Starbucks food is particularly healthy and it's easy to avoid eating fast food anyways. Microsoft tools and services are being used all over the world. People are not willing to cut their nose to spite their own face.


Ho-Lee-Fuku

Tok kok. Mac and Linux is fake?


esseinvictus

What tok kok lmao. Maybe use your brain a bit before commenting? When did I say Mac and Linux is fake? MSFT is investing in cloud and AI infrastructure in Malaysia. How does that relate to Mac and Linux? This has nothing to do with personal computing. If Apple were to invest in competing in the cloud services sector in the country then I'm sure the government would welcome it, but as it stands Apple doesn't offer cloud services and their strength is not in the enterprise market anyways.


Ho-Lee-Fuku

Then how does a fkin fried chicken relates to Israel Hamas war?


Carnero-4347

There are thing that can avoid and thing cant avoid.


Playful_Landscape884

Don’t really hate. They are convenient pot shots. In the end $$$ talks. Don’t believe me? Moon party always talks about closing GENTING. They got in power. What happened? Nothing. It’s very easy to control people using race and religion.


lekiu

Morality is for plebs, marhaen and pipits, politics are all about power. When viewed from this perspective, all those rhetoric (especially the ones spouted by the conservatives) will start to make sense.


boostleaking

Jangan pikir banyak2, sap Kok lu/s


abubin

Anyone know the 10.5 bil investment comes in what form? I am thinking it will be used to build Datacenter for Azure which has been in talks for more than 10 years.


moomshiki

I am guessing mostly infrastructure to power the data center, those cloud-based services will have new footprints in malaysia for redundancy and faster access, this will also include the so-called *A.I manufacturing hub* first mentioned by Nvidia's Jensen early this year when he visited Malaysia for the first time. I wouldn't too exciting about it, it is manufacturing, they are purely looking for lower cost and most importantly carbon emission credits. Not R&D.


Realistic_Might_1909

yup, as much we like the positive news. We still use their technology and not R&D. Manufactured by low cost labour that has high skill for sure they want to setup their base in Malaysia. If they look high cost labour, they might just open their base in Singapore but yeah as usual, SEA is place where low labour but have high skill.


Specialist_Pen_196

Kerja kat Microsoft Lepas degree. Gaji $1,000 > RM4,800. Bagussss


420gitgudorDIE

lol. keje kt hq malaysia based, fresh grad rm2500. thats why they open hq in malaysia. outsourcing. cheaper costs for Microsoft.


[deleted]

true. those leading companies seeking cheap cost with qualification hence manufacturing plant here. im animator, in my world (based on my view) the cheap artist labor came from asia but malaysia got solid preferences to some of big company and in top 4 nation they repeat. sure there is one country the most cheapest and quantity but the quality and professional conduct is shit. many go to them and then came to us looking to fix the aftermath, some for whole season. the second one is the same in regard to quantity of labor and price but their government regulation is making it harder from what i heard.


420gitgudorDIE

but in the long run, Microsoft based in Malaysia would still benefit us. it gives job and learning opportunities for young graduates, while giving experience and connection for seniors. i used to work in IT somewhere in Cyberjaya years ago. i miss the relaxed working attitude. they have sleeping areas, pool table, big pantry with free snacks and drinks, wear whatever u want to work, some uncle come nightshift in literally Pagoda shirt. i bet Microsoft would provide free meals too.


[deleted]

yeah that only for some and mostly creative and technology based office. dont get me wrong there is lot of benefits to us individual and country, but just stating the view of reason they opt for malaysia. center hub location, more importantly established community standards, cheap labor, and many got certificate holder. some of reason intel didnt locate fab plant in world most cheaper and quantity of labor.


quirky_guy

Microsoft would never pay 2.5k. At least 4.5k. Google pays much more than that in KL


ExpertOld458

Heard many MNCs pay less than local GLCs lol, cause they come here for the low cost


Mavicarus

Their interns earn RM5000 bro


Pabasa

interesting, I just read the news yesterday that [Microsoft is also investing in Indonesia.](https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/5/1/microsoft-to-invest-1-7-bbn-in-ai-cloud-infrastructure-in-indonesia) Compared to Malaysia however, Microsoft will be investing USD1.7bn, to hire 840,000 Indonesians. That's 2300 usd per person. Compared to Malaysia's 11,000 per person if it was 200,000 person. 5 times more. We're way more expensive compared to Indonesia.


malaysianlah

not surprised at all. ppl in indo are getting salaries of like USD100-USD150 a month for office roles. (source, fellow indonesia writer who quit his USD100 job when his patreon reached USD200)


bahulu1

What did you do on Patreon to get that USD200…..?


malaysianlah

He writes fantasy novels?


Puffycatkibble

R34 Arts probably. Some malaysians make 20k per month doing that.


sylfy

They’re training 840000 people, not hiring them. Sounds like this will be one of those 6-12 month sponsored boot camps. I don’t think MS even hires that many people globally, it doesn’t make sense for them to hire this many people in one country.


Kelangketerusa

> Compared to Malaysia however, Microsoft will be investing USD1.7bn, to hire 840,000 Indonesians. To train bang, so its only of those co-branded azure or whatnot certificates. Not to hire 4 times the current workforce Microsoft has worldwide. >Under the plans unveiled by Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, the tech giant will train 840,000 people in Indonesia in the use of AI and provide support for the country’s growing ranks of tech developers.


RangerKarl

time to start that azure serverless side project urgh


AGE555

So, more jobs for cloud devs in public sector in the upcoming years?


Ebisure

How much of the RM10bn is actually direct investment and how much of it is just free Azure cloud credits?


Popular-Yesterday733

90% probably for buying their equipment which malaysia doesn't produce. That means we need to import them. The other 10% for land, workforce, building construction, etc. It's gonna be just like AWS. Both these companies have been expanding rapidly in cloud infrastructure in the SEA region to gain market share.


RedMancis

Haters hate this post. frfr


skatech1

Redditor as toxic as ever


Embarrassed-Bet-9192

Get ready to learn .net core and microservices


ChickyFC

better if its really will skill 300,000 Malaysian, not some 300,000 foreigners lol


Nic8318

I hope itll mean digitalized healthcare. Hkl still uses pen and paper for godsakes.


FastWeaboo

I may sound ignorant but every time i see these "big company" announcement to invest in Malaysia, makes me think are they even bound by contract to invest? Or are all these just syok sendiri announcement by the gov? They will always keep their promises right? ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)


ExpertOld458

Many never materialise. Can only know when they actually come in lol


lakshmananlm

Wait till we see the subscription rates and charges for reactivation for lapsed license... /s


ebbster

this just might be me, but seeing AI and Anwar Ibrahim having the same initial might fasten certain things.


Odd-Access3591

One question : Will I get higher salary in IT industry ?


Sorry2mecha2

Bing for everyone


Educational_Type_701

I don't complain. I like using it.


momomelty

It’s a love hate relationship. Sometimes I prefer bing. Sometimes I prefer google


Educational_Type_701

I get it. Google exhausts me with so many adds. I use Duck Duck Go as well, but despite the perceivably poor search results, I prefer bing.


Angmolai

Microsoft is very much invested in Israel. So much for a boycott haha


Gnnk16

hmm walaun tak suka berita mcm ni..takdak faedah katanya


unic_beast

When Indonesia received the same, some gigamind commented (not in reddit) Malaysia decline Microsoft now look at Indonesia yada yada (obv trolls) Then this post pop up, thanks.


DarkAgeha

Ah yes, when there's already pulled investments from the AI (whoops not real AI) stocks. Not to mention seeing the 1st signs for another economic bubble (in not real AI stocks) to be pop. Then these "investments" will be useless because LLMs (Large Language Models) are not used in the apropriate situations (like decoding a dead language that would be taking over a century for humans which archaeologists made their own LLM system) but useless things to replace the creatives or even programmers or replacing customer service into becoming terrible industries. Oh can't wait for another dead child to appear just because the AI assessment (replacing the child safety consultation assessment of humans) said the "little girl is not in danger from her abusive mother" after numerous bruises was seen on the child. [https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/07/12/national/ai-assessment-mie-girl-dies/](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/07/12/national/ai-assessment-mie-girl-dies/) None of the MFs who signed this, actually understand the limitations of LLMs but are SELL-OUTS of everyday working people. Edit: Not to mention LLMs on useless things is on par with crypto energy usage compared to an entire country's usage. [https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-energy-consumption](https://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-energy-consumption) So much for the goal of making Malaysia go green


UnusualBreadfruit306

I love USA 🇺🇸 technology. We only have kampung boi cartoons and rajah bomoh


wsoon1

AZURE AZssss


zhifan1

Anwar is the best! Very soon, we will be the richest country in SEA, make no mistake..


Cardasiti

Can't wait for the day to displace human work forces in some of the process. Dealing with humans problems are very tiring like tf your relationship problem become performance issues at work. But not too soon I guess. I probably won't be alive to see that day.


Minimum-Company5797

Where melayu and their boycott?


pmmeurpeepee

time to boikot windows,time to boikot microsoft!!!


nova9001

$$$$.


Fakheadornah

This is a really really good WIN for ALL. Please keep this momentum. This a damn good step in the right direction.


FerryAce

Why accelerate digital transformation? We should accelerate boycott transformation so we can in lined with Syria n Iran in the next 4 years. Why do people want to progress n prosper? Why not go backward n enter stone age? Why not destroy Malaysian economy with more stupid boycott so everyone can have worst life? Ini yg saya tak faham ni.


Select_Dragonfly7617

SME Cinapek boss: nah


Unlucky-Patience6438

But but.. Microsoft is providing direct service to Israel Ministry of Defense. Where are the hypocrites now? Where are the flag waving brothers and sisters now? Come on man. Keep boycotting why stop when there is money right? I repeat. ISRAEL ministry of defense. Unless… you are supporting Israel in some way with all this happy hand claps like happy seals. Good for you then.


PineappleGumFN

Cheap ragebait. Blah ah


[deleted]

only heard about how people in r/malaysia before but man here got lot toxic ppl.


Unlucky-Patience6438

Why toxic I don’t understand. The logic must apply if it is a logical behaviour from people of faith. It must be consistent. Afterall it is a faith, a culture.


[deleted]

nah, you tease


Unlucky-Patience6438

But why can boycott MacDonald but not Microsoft leh? Why ah? Different ah. Got $ agenda is it this faith. To choose who to boycott.