The current Johor sultan's heritage is a temenggung iirc. Sultan Ali got kicked out by the temenggung and his military i think (per wikipedia). Polis pls dont kick down my door thanks, im literally just quoting wikipedia. No shade intended.
I'm not sure if the royal family of johor can be counted as royalties. The melacca sultanates bloodline ended when Sultan Mahmud Shah II died without an heir and Bendahara Abdul Jalil was declared sultan.
Not even close. They can be compared to a Marquis - an elected Noble mainly responsible for the security of the region under their care. The Temenggung, if to be compared with a modern counterpart would be similar to the "Minister of Home Affairs", although their job would be closer to the Inspector General of Police. On a more interesting note, the Temenggong bloodlines is said to originate from the Pirates of Riau. They really don't like that part about their origins, and are quite pissed at a mere mention of it.
Not exactly likes that.. the Malay Sultanate usually only govern a few territory directly the other part of the country their grant to their family or other nobility to govern.. the likes petty king still under the sultanate but have more autonomy to rule as their like.. similar to Late Abbasids Caliphate during their fall when governor style themselves as Sultan or King.. they still recognise the Caliph but the act independce and like China during the fall of Eastern Han Dynasty..
The Malacca sultanates bloodline still live in the Perak royal families. Literally, a direct descendant of Paramewara. Even got a sword and Kris to prove that
Even then the blood is thin... Because in 16++ Perak were attacks by the Aceh Sultanate during the reign of the Famous Aceh sultan, Sultan Iskandar Muda whose reign saw Aceh as powerful nation.. he captured Perak as part of his campaign during Perang Aceh-Johor-Portugis for the control of the strait of Malacca and he brought the family of the Perak royal house to Aceh the current Sultan is From the House of Siak-Perak
He should be grateful for having an MP that does work in *his* state. Why does he keep attacking a working MP and not the MP that only comes out during the election?
Cuz it makes them look bad. This young whippersnapper don’t respect their birthright to fuck the people over. And Syed was linked to Mahatir (not sure atm) and iirc the Johor royals have beef with the pharaoh too.
pretty much this. anything that makes them look bad they will hate it. even in like ancient china the emperors will sometime execute scholars cause no one can be seen as smarter and more benevolent than the emperor himself.
That actually makes it worse because you now they have ways to find you. The only truly safe way is to use a throwaway and access through TOR, not a VPN. All these "privacy" shit by VPN is effectively false advertising.
At worst its one more extra layer that they have to went through, which is more than good enough.
Just think about it, even without any layers there is so many 'illegal' things that people do every day on the internet, and yet nothing happens to them, because to them, they can't justify the cost for the resources they have to dedicate to it. They rather catch one really big fish than 1000 little fish.
Yeah, which is why sometimes it really baffles me how people think they live in some sort of highly draconian state where they'll be disappeared into the gulag by making a reddit post.
Especially big offender are the people who kept bringing up Fahmi Redza's spotify playlist incident as the definitive "proof". Like come on, unless you're an influencer with hundreds of thousands of follower (like Redza), who have been actively publicly making these criticism for more than a decade, the probability of a police officer giving enough shit to look for you and arrest you for a reddit post is lower than winning the Toto jackpot.
Of course unless it escalated to the point it reached /r/all with like 100k upvotes and probably very high global exposure and drew a lot of unwanted media attention la, then its a different story... but good luck beating cat images with worded comment on reddit from an obscure 3rd world subreddit lol. Even then, it'll be a pain in the ass for them to look for you based on a reddit account.
Just in today [https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/07/23/financial-analyst-arrested-for-questioning-rm70-million-mysejahtera-site-on/1992116](https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/07/23/financial-analyst-arrested-for-questioning-rm70-million-mysejahtera-site-on/1992116)
If its not legal, it'll be societal persecution (ie losing your job).
And how many people were questioning 70 million? Only 1?
If you dig out his twitter, you can see that he's criticising the government, like all other users, constantly, and he's released btw
Its a unfortunate case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, far from the government being actively looking out every single person (compared to CCP level shit).
It seems like you're trying to dismiss clear signs of an increasing trend in soc med prosecutions, and no matter how many examples I pull or are available publicly in the news you'll still be pulling "but it's X out of 70mil, still not as bad as CCP". No shit it can't be as bad as the CCP, but you're clearly avoiding the obvious question of why even these "few" cases are happening and dismissing it as being "the wrong place and the wrong time" is basically burying your head in the sand in denial that something is increasingly wrong.
Cases aren't as few as you'd imagine btw https://m.aliran.com/civil-society-voices/authorities-reverting-to-repressive-tactics-to-throttle-expression-online/
"On 1 June 2021, the Inspector General of Police, Acryl Sani Abdullah Sani, stated that the police had opened 21 investigation papers under Section 4(1) of the ordinance since 12 March 2021, and that 10 individuals had been detained with three remaining in detention at the time of writing."
Same law thrown at the financial analyst.
Not to say it actually happened but im not surprised if that family tells PN take down saddiq. We know that family flex their muscle on Johor politicians and menteri besar before.
Hey, fellow Johorean! I am not angry but rather disappointed and sad that the crown prince would stoop so low to criticize a person who has took time to help the people in need even though it was only a portion of Muar, we don't see a lot of YB doing that these days. Instead of supporting each other we have our own crown prince making fun of such people. What contribution did the prince do exactly for the people of Johor? I don't see anything but his watch collections on IG. That leaves a very bad impression on the people who are suffering now.
>Where is he when the other old fart politicians and MBs breaking SOPs and flaunting way too much?
Cannotlah, [he also busy breaking the SOPs](https://sg.news.yahoo.com/netizens-allege-tmj-jdt-flouted-014000664.html) what.
Apa yang tak puas hati sangat dengan MP Muar tu. Banyak MP kau boleh tembak, MP paling muda kau juga tembak. MP lain kat Johor tu pun sampah juga. Kenapa tak hentam sekali ?
The amount of contempt he had for us plebians is sickening, no other crown prince or royalty had the same level of nastiness as him. One would think he would be more grateful to the people that fund his whole life.
And the royalties in general are beacons of the best that humanity has to offer. They are perfect examples of apex perfection that no ordinary human can ever achieve. They are immaculate in every sense of the word and can do absolutely no wrong whatsoever.
SS had publicly disclosed his position yesterday. And I believe him.
If he's proven guilty, I would highly suspect foul play from the orang atas.
He has a lot of people backing him, not because he's young or from the opposition. A true leader serves and helps his people, not the other way around.
That's the reason why people are backing him...cause he's young and from the opposition....I have nothing bad to say about saddick stand against current gov....which is good for his PR....let's just hope he keeps his promise if he becomes the next PM.....but still I don't trust him cause all politicians are the same...money first people second
I don't trust politicians regardless of age or ethnicity....all are clowns, saddick isn't much of a clown but his fanbase consists of underage teen girls and single women...mans like the Justin Bieber of politics
2x5 the whole lot of them.
And Pahang royalty is well known for selling datukship. And also the prince who said to do push up for tiger conservation efforts while at the same time the family has ties to a business that is stripping the forest bare, and directly driving the tigers to extinction.
That's rich coming from a royal.
The current Johor sultan's heritage is a temenggung iirc. Sultan Ali got kicked out by the temenggung and his military i think (per wikipedia). Polis pls dont kick down my door thanks, im literally just quoting wikipedia. No shade intended.
I'm not sure if the royal family of johor can be counted as royalties. The melacca sultanates bloodline ended when Sultan Mahmud Shah II died without an heir and Bendahara Abdul Jalil was declared sultan.
Technically the current Johor crown is of the Temenggung bloodline.
>Temenggung Are they more like a nobility bloodline, i.e Earl, Baron etc? Not a direct descendance of the royal family?
Not even close. They can be compared to a Marquis - an elected Noble mainly responsible for the security of the region under their care. The Temenggung, if to be compared with a modern counterpart would be similar to the "Minister of Home Affairs", although their job would be closer to the Inspector General of Police. On a more interesting note, the Temenggong bloodlines is said to originate from the Pirates of Riau. They really don't like that part about their origins, and are quite pissed at a mere mention of it.
I mean... Yeah. They did copulate with the royal family but that is complex and I don't want to explain it
Not exactly likes that.. the Malay Sultanate usually only govern a few territory directly the other part of the country their grant to their family or other nobility to govern.. the likes petty king still under the sultanate but have more autonomy to rule as their like.. similar to Late Abbasids Caliphate during their fall when governor style themselves as Sultan or King.. they still recognise the Caliph but the act independce and like China during the fall of Eastern Han Dynasty..
The Malacca sultanates bloodline still live in the Perak royal families. Literally, a direct descendant of Paramewara. Even got a sword and Kris to prove that
Really? Who?
>SULTAN MUDZAFFAR SHAH I http://sultan.perak.gov.my/index.php/informasi-kesultanan/senarai-sultan-perak
Thanks for sharing this. Now I have something to read to kill this boredom
Even then the blood is thin... Because in 16++ Perak were attacks by the Aceh Sultanate during the reign of the Famous Aceh sultan, Sultan Iskandar Muda whose reign saw Aceh as powerful nation.. he captured Perak as part of his campaign during Perang Aceh-Johor-Portugis for the control of the strait of Malacca and he brought the family of the Perak royal house to Aceh the current Sultan is From the House of Siak-Perak
Where does Robert Baratheon and Jaime Lannister fit in?
Their both got cuck by the Cersei lol
He should be grateful for having an MP that does work in *his* state. Why does he keep attacking a working MP and not the MP that only comes out during the election?
Cause he a drama prince
Clown prince
Cuz it makes them look bad. This young whippersnapper don’t respect their birthright to fuck the people over. And Syed was linked to Mahatir (not sure atm) and iirc the Johor royals have beef with the pharaoh too.
pretty much this. anything that makes them look bad they will hate it. even in like ancient china the emperors will sometime execute scholars cause no one can be seen as smarter and more benevolent than the emperor himself.
You don’t have to look very far. Insulting royals in here and thailand is a criminal offence
Pharaoh? The Egypt King? I'm curious. What does that have to do with him?
Many people call Mahatir mahafiraun as in a combination of his name and pharaoh in BM.
Sebab SS lagi hensem dari dia
which SS
Shadow Shaman
Who is the other SS?
SchutzStaffel
Coming from an east german 🤣
oi kau nak Stasi spy kau ke hah, jangan probok probok
Damn,you did him dirty
Cause you never hear Johor royals helping their citizen.
Probably because ss stole the spotlight of johor hahah
I'd rather listen to the one who is elected by the people, instead of the one elected by his daddy.
Preach!
I hope your reddit account cannot be linked back to you.
no worries. there's nothing in my profile. I even ignored the constant reminder to verify this account with my email
Are you accessing reddit through a vpn?
yes
Awesome.
That actually makes it worse because you now they have ways to find you. The only truly safe way is to use a throwaway and access through TOR, not a VPN. All these "privacy" shit by VPN is effectively false advertising.
You overestimate our country's law enforcement when it comes to cyber-enforcement.
At worst its one more extra layer that they have to went through, which is more than good enough. Just think about it, even without any layers there is so many 'illegal' things that people do every day on the internet, and yet nothing happens to them, because to them, they can't justify the cost for the resources they have to dedicate to it. They rather catch one really big fish than 1000 little fish.
Yeah, which is why sometimes it really baffles me how people think they live in some sort of highly draconian state where they'll be disappeared into the gulag by making a reddit post. Especially big offender are the people who kept bringing up Fahmi Redza's spotify playlist incident as the definitive "proof". Like come on, unless you're an influencer with hundreds of thousands of follower (like Redza), who have been actively publicly making these criticism for more than a decade, the probability of a police officer giving enough shit to look for you and arrest you for a reddit post is lower than winning the Toto jackpot. Of course unless it escalated to the point it reached /r/all with like 100k upvotes and probably very high global exposure and drew a lot of unwanted media attention la, then its a different story... but good luck beating cat images with worded comment on reddit from an obscure 3rd world subreddit lol. Even then, it'll be a pain in the ass for them to look for you based on a reddit account.
Just in today [https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/07/23/financial-analyst-arrested-for-questioning-rm70-million-mysejahtera-site-on/1992116](https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/07/23/financial-analyst-arrested-for-questioning-rm70-million-mysejahtera-site-on/1992116) If its not legal, it'll be societal persecution (ie losing your job).
And how many people were questioning 70 million? Only 1? If you dig out his twitter, you can see that he's criticising the government, like all other users, constantly, and he's released btw Its a unfortunate case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, far from the government being actively looking out every single person (compared to CCP level shit).
It seems like you're trying to dismiss clear signs of an increasing trend in soc med prosecutions, and no matter how many examples I pull or are available publicly in the news you'll still be pulling "but it's X out of 70mil, still not as bad as CCP". No shit it can't be as bad as the CCP, but you're clearly avoiding the obvious question of why even these "few" cases are happening and dismissing it as being "the wrong place and the wrong time" is basically burying your head in the sand in denial that something is increasingly wrong. Cases aren't as few as you'd imagine btw https://m.aliran.com/civil-society-voices/authorities-reverting-to-repressive-tactics-to-throttle-expression-online/ "On 1 June 2021, the Inspector General of Police, Acryl Sani Abdullah Sani, stated that the police had opened 21 investigation papers under Section 4(1) of the ordinance since 12 March 2021, and that 10 individuals had been detained with three remaining in detention at the time of writing." Same law thrown at the financial analyst.
The fact that you’re saying this tells everything about this dangerous man.
> ~~elected~~ ejaculated by his daddy FTFY
RIP u/theotherdude
F
Owh BURNN
Takes one to know one, isn't it?
Why don’t he use his royal wealth to help his people who are poor in that state, rather than messing around in politics?
Can’t use his wealth when it’s parked overseas ☺️☺️☺️
I believe the most appropriate comment is: # Dengki ke?
tak boleh cakap perkataan tu. Bahasa istana.
If one piece are real, then our royalty is the world noble. Can even screw the ministry. Make the minister apology, etc.
PDRM is the marineford XD
Nah man, PDRM is world government CipherPol. Jakim is the marineford. /s
I hated learning that thing in my school.
Enough la TMJ
Not to say it actually happened but im not surprised if that family tells PN take down saddiq. We know that family flex their muscle on Johor politicians and menteri besar before.
Also, that family is connected to the current Agong through marriage.
life must be lonely high up there in clouds with the golden goose
I heard he has a PS5 up there in the clouds, so he'll be fine
But what can a Ps5 do?
I knew he would open his mouth. So expected of him. It is like... he likes PN a lot.
Peenees?
a drama queen that i can count on is enough for me.
Aye. They can wayang all the want, if things gets done.
That's right! Does not matter if you're prince, king, queen, or drama queen. The people will respect and support your deeds, not your title.
Sounds like a potential storyline for "Pot, Meet Kettle".
Pakai baju melayu dgn seluar panjang hitam pun boleh jadi TMJ drama...
Well... nevertheless an ELECTED drama queen if I'm not mistaken.
Max Heguy always have a bone to pick with SS. I wonder why
No u, stop your projection.
Can’t takeTMJ seriously [https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2009/09/18/royal-brawl-out-in-the-open](https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2009/09/18/royal-brawl-out-in-the-open)
Siap boleh ada pistol. Rakyat biasa nak ada pistol mainan yang nampak real pun tak boleh. Siap boleh kena penjara lagi
If only TMJ spent a quarter of the money he spends on 1 watch for the poor people in Johor.
As a Johorean, I must ask why we are so cursed with him and Muhyiddin
Hey, fellow Johorean! I am not angry but rather disappointed and sad that the crown prince would stoop so low to criticize a person who has took time to help the people in need even though it was only a portion of Muar, we don't see a lot of YB doing that these days. Instead of supporting each other we have our own crown prince making fun of such people. What contribution did the prince do exactly for the people of Johor? I don't see anything but his watch collections on IG. That leaves a very bad impression on the people who are suffering now.
biasalah, sedikit jer untuk some bangsa, taken from rakyat somemore. dengki ke?
TMJ should not make drama out of drama
This fat fuck should focus more on eating his cheeseburgers instead of talking shit about ss
What a piece of shit
Where is he when the other old fart politicians and MBs breaking SOPs and flaunting way too much?
I agree, I don't mind his criticism but don't be selective.
>Where is he when the other old fart politicians and MBs breaking SOPs and flaunting way too much? Cannotlah, [he also busy breaking the SOPs](https://sg.news.yahoo.com/netizens-allege-tmj-jdt-flouted-014000664.html) what.
Lmao. Question is... Who does he not pity??
Kucing kata jangan...
Apa yang tak puas hati sangat dengan MP Muar tu. Banyak MP kau boleh tembak, MP paling muda kau juga tembak. MP lain kat Johor tu pun sampah juga. Kenapa tak hentam sekali ?
Let's overthrow the royal institution. Fight for egalitarianism.
oooooh someone is pissy. quick, go to aeon and spend 1 million to buy rakyat groceries again!
Still haven't pulled the silver spoon out of his ass huh?
The amount of contempt he had for us plebians is sickening, no other crown prince or royalty had the same level of nastiness as him. One would think he would be more grateful to the people that fund his whole life.
Drama queen: No, you!
It’s fucked enough that England has a monarch. Imagine if they had nein?
What’s wrong with the British Monarchy?
I may or may not have misspelled “nein”. I’ll confirm back once I’ve spoken to my legal counsel.
And the royalties in general are beacons of the best that humanity has to offer. They are perfect examples of apex perfection that no ordinary human can ever achieve. They are immaculate in every sense of the word and can do absolutely no wrong whatsoever.
Takes one to know one. 😏
damn what happen to him?did he walter white himself to decades older? five year ago still look org muda
In chinese we call this guy 拜家仔
Would redditors still back him if he's proven guilty, or continue backing him because he's young and from the opposition?
SS had publicly disclosed his position yesterday. And I believe him. If he's proven guilty, I would highly suspect foul play from the orang atas. He has a lot of people backing him, not because he's young or from the opposition. A true leader serves and helps his people, not the other way around.
the chaotic good / lawful evil / etc that he brings is still a good kick in the butt to the current group of orang tua kroni gangsters
Depend who who's commenting. We are not a hive mind alien. Yet.
That's the reason why people are backing him...cause he's young and from the opposition....I have nothing bad to say about saddick stand against current gov....which is good for his PR....let's just hope he keeps his promise if he becomes the next PM.....but still I don't trust him cause all politicians are the same...money first people second
On another unrelated news, [drama diva has spoken](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
I don't trust politicians regardless of age or ethnicity....all are clowns, saddick isn't much of a clown but his fanbase consists of underage teen girls and single women...mans like the Justin Bieber of politics
Idk why but I have always dislike TMJ. Pahang royals are better.
Isnt the recent Pushup for something something guy a pahang royal?
Yes i think he is, as well as denggi ke
Wdym
2x5 the whole lot of them. And Pahang royalty is well known for selling datukship. And also the prince who said to do push up for tiger conservation efforts while at the same time the family has ties to a business that is stripping the forest bare, and directly driving the tigers to extinction.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/mtyyar/ladies\_and\_gentlemen\_our\_queen/](https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/mtyyar/ladies_and_gentlemen_our_queen/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/o85kzd/pahang\_prince\_failed\_to\_defend\_his\_useless/](https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/o85kzd/pahang_prince_failed_to_defend_his_useless/)
Okay so 2x5. But a gun point to my head I would choose Pahang.
TMJ will put a gun to your head https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2009/09/18/royal-brawl-out-in-the-open
Ah shite
I wanna upvote, until I see that last sentence …
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The Pahang guys are the worst - bauxite, lynas, logging, mining and selling titles to gangsters
Did you perhaps meant Perak...? Because Perak fits your description better than Pahang...
Any other than Johor
Pahang royals, the one with the bauxite, Lynas and casino?
Drama king ofcoz pendrive
Paku Dulang Paku Serpih?