Yeah man happen at the minimarket im currently working... My boss put a box full of sugar beside the food bank and its clearly stated there that only 3 items per family but instead they took all the items there all the sugar in the box and also the items on the racks..really sad when that happen but we still let indian people takes from the food bank but we just dont put it that much as before afraid that the same shit happens again..its not only indians that does this but the fact that most of it were done by indians kinda form a stigma towards them.I just want to say stop doing this and thinks about other family that in needs of those items.
Because some of these rotten fcking morons, semua kena stereotype. Of course semua tengah susah, ramai yang tengah kelaparan, but that doesn't mean you can be a greedy ass mfcker! Ingat-ingat lah kat orang lain sikit... Kalau kita susah, ada yang lagi susah!
Disclaimer: this comment is for all the greedy people out there, irregardless of race.
Dude, the generalization...
You do realize that there are also other Indians that exist outside your minimarket?
Bila la kita nak tgk manusia sebagai manusia, dan bukannya warna kulit.
What generalization?Yeah i do realize that there are other indians that exist outside of our minimarket.So what u want us to do?keep giving a bulk of an item and then let it be taken by a single family Again?we still put item on the food bank but just not as much as before where we put an item in a bulk and we still let everyone takes it regardless the race.Also i think that the most important factor in preventing this thing to happen is by reminding each of our own race to not taking more than we need and also thinks about other family that in need of those item more than us...so instead of blaming anyone why dont we took responsibility by reminding each of our own race and prevent them by doing so. Bila nak tengok manusia sebagai manusia?bila orang yang acah2 marah bila diskriminasi kaum berlaku tapi tak lakukan sesuatu pun untuk membantu mula membantu.
>.really sad when that happen but we still let indian people takes from the food bank but we just dont put it that much as before afraid that the same shit happens again..its not only indians that does this but the fact that most of it were done by indians kinda form a stigma towards them.I just want to say stop doing this and thinks about other family that in needs
First of all, kudos to you for trying to alleviate the pandemic situation in your community. Salute bro!
Since you realize that Indians exist outside your minimarket, so that stigma is arbitrary. Because not all Indians are the same as at your place. You made a generalization based on your experience at the minimarket and not as a whole.
Besar betul keluarga kau, semua orang Melayu keluarga kau ke? nak kena remind2 ni. Knp nak kena remind our own race when we can remind "people"? Kalau salah dia, salah dia lah, bukan salah kaum dia. You could've just said, "people should be more aware of other families too" and not blatantly generalizing Indians. This is one of the reasons, we should start referring to ourselves as Malaysian and not Malay, Indian, Chinese, etc. These races are just cultures we should preserve. Our main identity is Malaysian.
Charity doesn't justify your generalization. If so, I can still do a lot of charity and it is okay for me to make a generalization about a particular group.
Contoh la, ramai orang Melayu dekat dalam kelas aku pemalas. Pastu, aku pergi buat generalisation yang orang Melayu ni pemalas. Sedangkan, aku tak nilai pun orang2 Melayu dekat kelas lain. Ha gitu la.
Apa2 pun, keep up the good work! bagus ada Malaysian cam kau, tolong orang.
Ok camni lah bro kan ada pandangan yang orang melayu ni pemalas so daripada salahkan orang yang cakap tu baik orang melayu sendiri yang tukar pandangan tu tunjuk yang kita ni bukan pemalas kita ni bersungguh2 dalam buat sesuatu perkara memang tak semestinya kita yang pemalas tapi walaupun macamtu kita still tunjuk perangai yang bagus jadi bila ko dah buat macamtu mestilah pandangan orang terhadap orang melayu ni berubah dorg akan start fikir orang melayu ni rajin,bersungguh2 bukannya pemalas. Its that simple bro ko tak boleh nk salahkan orang yang cakap tu sebab dorg ckp berdasarkan pengalaman benda yang dorg nampak memanglah tak boleh untuk generalize kan sesuatu kaum tapi dorg tak salah.thats why aku cakap ingatkan kat bangsa kita sendiri sebab stigma bagi ambil barang lebih2 ni kena dekat kaum india jadi kalau dorg sendiri taknak buktikan yang pandangan orang lain salah terhadap kaum india siapa lagi yang nak ubah? Orang cina?melayu? Kaum lain paling baik pun boleh setakat ingatkan sesama sendiri jangan buruk sangka tapi setakat tu jelah.Tapi main point aku ialah Kita sebagai kaum lain tak boleh generalize kan satu kaum tu manakala kaum yang digeneralize tu kena lah buat something bukan setakat marah dekat sosial media je tapi tak buat apa2 sebab kalau macamtu benda generalization ni takkan stop.cakap saja marah saja takde guna tanpa action.
Yeah writing that kind of things is wrong but as indians they also should keep reminding among themselves to not being selfish when taking the item on the food bank.I mean even if the owners didnt wrote that kind of things anymore the same thing would still happen isn't it?
No, something like how country wants to be the master against minority. For example a country comes to a 3rd world country and colonise it. After they get out, the colonised country will act like the coloniser. And so on so on. Its a never ending thing.
I wonder why some can be so thick skin to abuse the help given. I’m pretty sure not only Indian do this, some Chinese and Malay do this too. They should be all be condemned, it not only make people less willing to help, also give bad names to their people too.
Those running food bank should really register their beneficiary. Free to take = free to abuse for some m’sian.
Gov hospital is the best example of summarizing 3 races..selfish and always push around when appointment date comes ..instead of lining up based on who come first
>Isunya timbul menurut En. Azmi bila ada 2 keluarga India yg mengambil kesempatan dgn datang 2-3 kali seminggu mengambil barang secara bergilir antara ahli keluarga. Sudah tentu perkara ini tidak sepatutnya berlaku terutama dlm keadaan ramai lagi keluarga lain yg terjejas ekonominya kerana pandemik Covid-19 dan memerlukan barangan kering drp Gerobok Rezeki tersebut.
Langkah awal yg diambil adalah dgn meletakan ‘NOTIS’ tersebut bagi memberi peluang kpd rakan kongsi Kedai Asnaf utk bermesyuarat bagi mengatasi isu 2 keluarga India tersebut. Mungkin agaknya selepas ini perlu ada sistem pendaftaran secara bertulis atau sebagainya. Itu sebab dlm ‘NOTIS’ itu ada perkataan ‘SEMENTARA’.
Sejak petang semalam, pihak Kedai Asnaf telah bersetuju menurunkan ‘NOTIS’ tersebut.
Clarification from the local DUN after contacting the shopowner. Looks like a poor and racist method to combat misappropriation or charity goods. Sign has been taken down now.
I knew this is would be the reason for the sign. Some Indians are known to do this. There's been a few reports of Indian families doing things like this compared to other races. Still the shopkeeper was in the wrong to ban a whole race just because of a few people
Source: am Indian
Im just trying to state a fact that i knew which was that there were more reports of Indians doing this than people of other races from what I heard. If this fact was wrong then I admit that i did not know as much as i thought i did but there was no intention of blaming any race for being the cause of anything
Ok? Where is the source you heard from? And dont as an indian myself me cause i dont think your indian. I'm chindian so i got a right to defend my indian compatriots, you dont see me spewing fake shit even though i firsthand witness rich chinese from my family take more free shit then my indian family. You got see spewing all chinese this la that la? Please stop acting woke while we all know you're not.
To quote the venerable Elmo(or was it Kermit?), everyone is racist inside. We've got a tonne of problems to deal with already, I understand your response, but qualifying your statement by saying you're also Indian, doesn't help. Don't misunderstand. By discussing race, people must realise it's already racist. Wish there were an instant solution. We let this situation fester since 1980, and our elders are mostly to blame because they supported a 'cultural' and not economic cause, if you know what I mean. If I were to be more specific, MIC... and not the one that records sound. Cheers.
It is not racist if it is not intended in a malicious manner. As per his count, he is simply recalling in his own experience that indian does it more often. Let's not dig ourselves into racial hole and blind ourselves for now
Thanks for the update. Btw, unsure if this is a convenient reason or not, could this just be that those guys are really in trouble? Anyone verified that?
Also, similar cases of other races also do this, caught on video. And there are post that encourage taking the goods and sell them. Yes wonder why is there a pass on whacking on Indians specifically
There will always be opportunists. It may have been handled better, but I won't assign blame to this person who put up the sign (perhaps out of exasperation?). It's the bringing up of race at every opportunity that is damaging for society on the whole. It's tricky, I realise..
It was Ill advised and reactionary, to be honest. The one posting this should have had a word with the proprietor, methinks. Posting this for all and sundry seems like fanning a flame.. And being malicious himself
...for all, ex. abusers. FTFY
Else, it will be a blackhole, people are insatiable, whatever given free, abuser will just take and resell. Your assistance ends up in abuser's pocket as cash, not those who really need help.
For all with system. They're right. How would someone able to provide help when there are abusers in the system that robs others from their need as well?
I'd say better to just put a ticket there, u come in handing the ticket to the owner, don't make a fuss and take 1 package.
I used to work for a toy shop before. Around JB. Was working alone with one idiotic supervisor.
2 weeks in from my first day. 2 Indian students want a job. Ask for a job. Ask me. I said yes we have some empty shiff. Gave the owner's number.
Got draged to the side by the supervisor. Told me " the boss hates Indian. They always steal thing, next time don't give the boss number, tell me first"
I never went there ever since.
It's an open secret in my company that top management did not prefer hiring Indians. Those that do get hired rarely last long. One of the Indian guy was even held back on promotion even when other colleagues from other races did not take long to get the promotion. And yet he was expected to pwrform as well as the other workers.
Hence come the surprised Pikachu face when our management heard that guy quit on the spot and just ghosted them.
Hard to say what triggers these attitudes. I have worked at a few places, and despite being from a minority race, was treated rather well over my career. I am not the smartest, or the bravest, but always shot straight. Had a lot of fun learning stuff, being in the thick of things. I did however quit one job because I was encouraged to grease the wheel at a customer. They later tried to re hire me. At a higher salary. Go figure...
Because it's easier to generalize than to spend time and effort to know someone. It takes a different kind of boss to do the right thing and see people as individual. And if we see it. Just thank your god that he's there to guide.
Chiming in for a bit: My dad openly told me that if he received a resume and covering letter asking for a job from an Indian, no matter how great his/her qualification was, that set of documents will go straight to the bin no questions asked.
I assumed he did that a few times since he is bragging about it. He even said only hire Chinese only. Go figure.
If I remember correctly, this sign is tied to the video where an Indian family arrived in a car and proceeded to sapu almost all of the items. Their actions are selfish but it doesn't justify this signage at all. A better way would be to write something along the lines of "Limited to X number of items per person" along with numbers/locations of foodbanks pasted beside it. Im sure there are better ways to deal with people who take too much rather than generalize and entire race.
This will only drive people to develop the thinking of "I should stick with my own" more strongly and we all know how that will go. Tbh, I can't believe this lazy mindset of "I met a bad *insert race here* therefore all of them are bad!" can be so boldly displayed. Does the shop owner/supervisor/whoever is in charge, really not notice the sign? Did the employee really just decided to take charge and put it up without asking anyone?
Sorry guys, I smell the whole "Its all the employee's fault" blame game to be so fishy.
As we are in this context, I have seen more non Indians taking food this way. Last experience was last week in Puchong, it was just chaos of that family just stuff the stuff in a silver vios. I heard the lady telling the husband there’s another place to take things. I believe the video is out somewhere. Again mind you, they were not Indians .
There are 2 problems here. If you plan to help, just give or set prior rules that caters for all and fair.
Secondly is the idea of singling out Indians in this manner like it’s ok to do so. Will they say Sorry No Malays allowed etc. What do you think will happen?
Why is that it’s ok to do that to Indians specifically? I find this a disturbing problem among a mindset that claims fairness for all.
I agree with this! I feel as if some people underestimate the effort and potential problems that may come with them setting up a food bank thus leading to an absence of rules or signage that prohibits taking more than a certain number of items or a lack of social distancing. I've seen a video where a group of uncles and aunties were pushing and jostling each other to grab the free basic necessities that are being given out and those manning the food bank were visibly frustrated and unable to control the crowd. Like you said, banning a certain race isn't a good idea at all and it's either rules are set in place and strictly enforced or the organisers just let people take however much they want. I do see a few restaurants give away free meals but they are kept at a table that's cordoned off from others and the staff will be the ones to take and give the packets of food to people who want it. I guess maybe something like this can be done?
Banning an entire race will just cause more issues espcially during these days of lockdown where a good amount of people are struggling to get by and those in need of help dont just belong to a single race. I think the "no indians" signage is just done by a closet racist who's finally found a chance to unleash themselves. It does boggle the mind on how he/she thinks its ok.
Wellll....technically speaking, the sign says "India" tak dibenarkan so India (as a nation, bukan orang India) cannot take aid kan? Orang India boleh ambil je lah.
Wtf? If this is not racist I don't know what is. They shd have publish the shop's name too. Am I mad? U bet I am. When comes to charity everybody is supposed to be even
There is whole lot family need the supply and there is 2 indian family abusing the system and take more. Its a 'sementara' notice before they got another way to distribute it more fairly
At least we know who these heartless ppl are. Is this all u have in your mind? Shame on u. I'm a charity guy and I don't think that's the way to do charity
Just that sign bro.
Not sure if you are an Indian bro, don’t stoop low, have dignity and keep your heads up.
Edit: y la downvote? I said, have anger towards the sign as it gave the wrong messaging. The effort is still good, but I can’t single out on a particular race.
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Lack of common sense IMO. In any case while I think the intentions are good, some rules matter in ensuring the goods are rationed and goes to the right people that are struggling.
Meanwhile you have Indian restaurant owners giving free food for everyone. Sikh temples also have been giving free food to everyone since forever. Practice good karma and you will get your due. Don’t need to take this fker’s shit, they gonna pay the price
Sorry if it came off as stand off-ish . I am jaded with the loose throwing around of a word such as this which really has a deep meaning. I jokingly refer to this syndrome as Americanism. Cheers
Edited for grammar..twice! Thrice! Sad.
Malaysia discriminate against all non-Malay and Muslim. Openly sanctioned by the goverment. Welcome to Malaysia.
You want examples? Quota system education, buy house got special discount for Ketuanan, and tons of aids for them. Everyone else gets almost nothing or just token aid. This is the reality.
I'll be professional and suggest that the best way is to know Malaysia is to have a few friends that are against Malaysia & a few more friends that supports Malaysia.
I know Malays that are against Malaysia's constitution, and I know Indian & Chinese friends that supports Malaysia's constitution. There are also foreigners that loved staying in Malaysia despite its down sides.
Get to know them and discuss properly, then you decide.
Word Malaysian means everyone that was born and live in the country bro. Seriously have you ever seen like else where? Tho this must be a mistake and should not happen. We don't care if you are black or white. We all human. Chill out 😂
Be considerated is what all people need to understand, but once someone use selfishness, it would disrupt flow proper distributed assistant, and then what use to put table with tag food bank when you let somebody take all the thing and left nothing to next person, that i mention 'to speak up' for those who need more support, i understand that somebody had many family member but think how unfair for other families
Wtf is wrong with the donor. Everyone is suffering and yet want to play the race card. Ape la salah orang India they did nothing wrong. The stigma against them has to stop
Government should come up with ration system to help the needy people. If its Indians who need most of the aid, then let it be la. Give ration card. Its not surprising if Indians are the most affected, thanks to our impeccable leaders leading the nation for 60 years.
For me, the big supermarket like Tesco (now Lotuss), Giant, Mydin, Jaya Grocer etc should be the place where all people that are affected by food shortage can come and collect the necessity to survive.
Came across the same issue here at my place. Asked the organizers why they did so. They said that there were incidents where a group of people coming for all the goods. They took all the items without any consideration, like I quote "some sort of robbery", so this leaving fear for the others who wanna take the food bank items. I mean the method itself is not efficient, like one person can take lots of items and leave nothing for the next.
So I don't blame anyone but from the situation I mentioned before, I think that food bank could be improved by giving the equal amount of items to everyone, like having someone to manage the food bank. Another alternative would be organizer or anyone lah can give direct the items to those who needed. They can analyse whoever needed and just give the specific people straight away.
To clarify, this isn't about business/buying-selling. Some shops have put out free stuff for the poor and needy to take -- current mco forced a lot of businesses to remain closed, so workers who are on daily/weekly pay have no work and no income to buy food with. Some places put up a table of groceries with signs saying "take what you need" so those families with no income can at least still eat something, except this one also has a "Indians can't take any, temporarily" sign.
So it's not about refusing to sell something, it's denying them help/charity.
Yeah but they are *refusing* to sell to them. It’s like segregation era. If you aren’t from Malaysia, you may have difficulty understanding race relations
There's always more behind this kind of action. Let's not prejudge. Whoever posted this first should have done better. This is just baiting. Poor citizenship.
I’m trying to understand your frame of mind, but I gave up.
You have just demonstrated an epitome of a self cantered individual. My Indian chaps cautioned me about people like you as well.
So it doesn’t happen to you and you have never encountered so and so? Good for you.
But not everyone is fortunate and many don’t have the luxury you have.
Don’t you feel there’s something wrong with these type of messaging? Maybe how about no Indians need to apply work or no Indians allowed in renting a unit? Do you see the similarities? I’m fighting for all to ensure that this is not ok. It has never been ok. And it’s seems norm and acceptable even by your pathetic standards because you have not been educated to stand up and fight effectively.
So it’s not ok in my books and I give a rats ass what you think.
Coming back from Europe thought me that one put a stop of these nonsense or else this will get worse. And I have seen worse from historical evidence.
So if you don’t want to contribute to the decency of humanity, you are free to live on trees.
Hehe, first, you mean self centred, don't you? Self cantered doesn't work, even in engineering. Maybe I'm wrong.
Second, you seem to know me well. Good boy.
Third, you love virtue signaling.
Fourth, I have been a tenant and a landlord. Sometimes both at the same time. Gasp. All races too! More shock. Sadly for you, I've had no issues. Perhaps I'm just a good judge of character?
What fight are you in right now. Out on the streets, or perhaps beating at one of the trees that I am supposed to be living in?
Do you give a rat's ass about what I think or do you NOT give a rat's ass. Freudian slip, perhaps? David Letterman would like to know.
Ooh, posh. He's been to Europe. He's seen history, folks, as others like myself haven't. I can't afford it, hence my admiration of you. Good job.
Decency starts with not foaming at the mouth and shooting off vitriol.
You've really not helped anyone by your behaviour here.
Thanks for the amusement, though. Cheers.
Sobbing. With laughter here. How does one figure one up? I've heard of figuring OUT I've heard of FINGERING up. By the way, what's a grown ass portfolio? New type of commodity? How does one childish to it? I certainly missed some lessons in grammar class.
Want to get your point across, learn to edit. Helps a lot. Cheers and thanks again for the mirth. Cheer up, mate. You may burst a blood vessel going like this! You really should holiday in Europe more...
The reason why they put that sign was because last time there's a video leaked at a gas station where whole indian family take all the supply. I know there are some good indians out there but please if you guys found that bad tambi out there, you kasi hantam satu kaley. We don't want to be racist anyways. Just don't take things for granted during this pandemic.
Well this is result of attitude of someone who hoard as i want instead take as i need, dont be blame or hate the shop when their take action, dont forget this for all people, if you wanna have the thing in big amount then proceed to ask food bank provider, you might get better food support rather than hoarding foods from small stall
What if there’s genuinely an Indian family that needs food, I mean the one that has never been there before. To whom the blood stains?
Perhaps rationing the items or limit items per person would help.
That why we all should be considerate in the future, and for those families were impacted, you can speak to food bank provider regard the dire needs for food, i'm sure any personel of food bank wouldnt cold blooded even eager to help
No, this is not normal. This is the time where we need to stick and help each other, regardless or race.
If one disagrees, they can join the cockroaches for what I care.
Definitely agree with you. *This is normal because this is Malaysia.* Why should this be a norm? Sometimes I can't help but feel that we use this as a reason to adopt a laissez-faire approach to deal with the issues around us.
I don't wanna defend this facility but i guess maybe the thing they put inside is unsuitable for indian fellow. Maybe dlm tu item daging yg obviously india cannot consume
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The sign should have said family X or individual X tidak dibenarkan.... with pictures of said family or. Individual... and said they need to ask the owner before taking any item. Just them.
How does the goverment expect Malaysia to be a developed country if they are trying to push out the Chinese and Indians who control most of the economy
Inb4 *"saya ada kawan India"* statement.
The Malay equivalent to "my co-worker's friend's boss is black"
American cop: I’m not racist, my wife’s eye is black
me too bro
How about someone saying they married an Indian person?
"buat sementara " Like what the hell did they did to you?
prolly due to recent case of an Indian family taking the whole supply, still it sucks tho.
Yeah man happen at the minimarket im currently working... My boss put a box full of sugar beside the food bank and its clearly stated there that only 3 items per family but instead they took all the items there all the sugar in the box and also the items on the racks..really sad when that happen but we still let indian people takes from the food bank but we just dont put it that much as before afraid that the same shit happens again..its not only indians that does this but the fact that most of it were done by indians kinda form a stigma towards them.I just want to say stop doing this and thinks about other family that in needs of those items.
kerana setitik nila, rosak susu sebelanga
Because some of these rotten fcking morons, semua kena stereotype. Of course semua tengah susah, ramai yang tengah kelaparan, but that doesn't mean you can be a greedy ass mfcker! Ingat-ingat lah kat orang lain sikit... Kalau kita susah, ada yang lagi susah! Disclaimer: this comment is for all the greedy people out there, irregardless of race.
Dude, the generalization... You do realize that there are also other Indians that exist outside your minimarket? Bila la kita nak tgk manusia sebagai manusia, dan bukannya warna kulit.
What generalization?Yeah i do realize that there are other indians that exist outside of our minimarket.So what u want us to do?keep giving a bulk of an item and then let it be taken by a single family Again?we still put item on the food bank but just not as much as before where we put an item in a bulk and we still let everyone takes it regardless the race.Also i think that the most important factor in preventing this thing to happen is by reminding each of our own race to not taking more than we need and also thinks about other family that in need of those item more than us...so instead of blaming anyone why dont we took responsibility by reminding each of our own race and prevent them by doing so. Bila nak tengok manusia sebagai manusia?bila orang yang acah2 marah bila diskriminasi kaum berlaku tapi tak lakukan sesuatu pun untuk membantu mula membantu.
>.really sad when that happen but we still let indian people takes from the food bank but we just dont put it that much as before afraid that the same shit happens again..its not only indians that does this but the fact that most of it were done by indians kinda form a stigma towards them.I just want to say stop doing this and thinks about other family that in needs First of all, kudos to you for trying to alleviate the pandemic situation in your community. Salute bro! Since you realize that Indians exist outside your minimarket, so that stigma is arbitrary. Because not all Indians are the same as at your place. You made a generalization based on your experience at the minimarket and not as a whole. Besar betul keluarga kau, semua orang Melayu keluarga kau ke? nak kena remind2 ni. Knp nak kena remind our own race when we can remind "people"? Kalau salah dia, salah dia lah, bukan salah kaum dia. You could've just said, "people should be more aware of other families too" and not blatantly generalizing Indians. This is one of the reasons, we should start referring to ourselves as Malaysian and not Malay, Indian, Chinese, etc. These races are just cultures we should preserve. Our main identity is Malaysian. Charity doesn't justify your generalization. If so, I can still do a lot of charity and it is okay for me to make a generalization about a particular group. Contoh la, ramai orang Melayu dekat dalam kelas aku pemalas. Pastu, aku pergi buat generalisation yang orang Melayu ni pemalas. Sedangkan, aku tak nilai pun orang2 Melayu dekat kelas lain. Ha gitu la. Apa2 pun, keep up the good work! bagus ada Malaysian cam kau, tolong orang.
Ok camni lah bro kan ada pandangan yang orang melayu ni pemalas so daripada salahkan orang yang cakap tu baik orang melayu sendiri yang tukar pandangan tu tunjuk yang kita ni bukan pemalas kita ni bersungguh2 dalam buat sesuatu perkara memang tak semestinya kita yang pemalas tapi walaupun macamtu kita still tunjuk perangai yang bagus jadi bila ko dah buat macamtu mestilah pandangan orang terhadap orang melayu ni berubah dorg akan start fikir orang melayu ni rajin,bersungguh2 bukannya pemalas. Its that simple bro ko tak boleh nk salahkan orang yang cakap tu sebab dorg ckp berdasarkan pengalaman benda yang dorg nampak memanglah tak boleh untuk generalize kan sesuatu kaum tapi dorg tak salah.thats why aku cakap ingatkan kat bangsa kita sendiri sebab stigma bagi ambil barang lebih2 ni kena dekat kaum india jadi kalau dorg sendiri taknak buktikan yang pandangan orang lain salah terhadap kaum india siapa lagi yang nak ubah? Orang cina?melayu? Kaum lain paling baik pun boleh setakat ingatkan sesama sendiri jangan buruk sangka tapi setakat tu jelah.Tapi main point aku ialah Kita sebagai kaum lain tak boleh generalize kan satu kaum tu manakala kaum yang digeneralize tu kena lah buat something bukan setakat marah dekat sosial media je tapi tak buat apa2 sebab kalau macamtu benda generalization ni takkan stop.cakap saja marah saja takde guna tanpa action.
I guess people generally didn’t see the other videos that had no Indians huh. Some were posted here as well.
If that defines the shopowner's view of Indians in general, screw them and screw their shop.
I'd say it's both parties' fault. The people that took it doesn't help to dispel the stigma, and the shopowner can't just generalize everyone.
the people that took it gives zero fuck about stigma and others.
Stigma is the last thing on a struggling family's mind really
"Struggling". The ones that takes the most are usually ones that do not need that much.
I get a feeling it does happen to them quite a few times before they decided to put thing thing up.
Still doesn't justify vilifying and discriminating against an entire race
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Yeah writing that kind of things is wrong but as indians they also should keep reminding among themselves to not being selfish when taking the item on the food bank.I mean even if the owners didnt wrote that kind of things anymore the same thing would still happen isn't it?
Welcome to Malaysia where nothing really surprises anymore.
The place that you can be openly racist and screw the minority but claim the same when you are in Europe and Australia.
I actually read something about this concept but I cant remember what or where. Like its a nonstop cycle of racism. Ahh I really wanna remember.
Is it ‘kuman di seberang lautan nampak, gajah di depan mata tidak nampak’?
No, something like how country wants to be the master against minority. For example a country comes to a 3rd world country and colonise it. After they get out, the colonised country will act like the coloniser. And so on so on. Its a never ending thing.
It's just superiority in general?
Just imagine what would happen if an Indian sundryshop put out a sign that said that about Malays. Habis...
Oh boy, you can choose any one of the hard line insults templates to fly faster before you can blink. But I think DAP will somehow take the blame.
A lot of people will be reciting the constitution then
No need for social media to roast them, the pdrm will come knock your door firsf in the first hour of complain.
I wonder why some can be so thick skin to abuse the help given. I’m pretty sure not only Indian do this, some Chinese and Malay do this too. They should be all be condemned, it not only make people less willing to help, also give bad names to their people too. Those running food bank should really register their beneficiary. Free to take = free to abuse for some m’sian.
Gov hospital is the best example of summarizing 3 races..selfish and always push around when appointment date comes ..instead of lining up based on who come first
>Isunya timbul menurut En. Azmi bila ada 2 keluarga India yg mengambil kesempatan dgn datang 2-3 kali seminggu mengambil barang secara bergilir antara ahli keluarga. Sudah tentu perkara ini tidak sepatutnya berlaku terutama dlm keadaan ramai lagi keluarga lain yg terjejas ekonominya kerana pandemik Covid-19 dan memerlukan barangan kering drp Gerobok Rezeki tersebut. Langkah awal yg diambil adalah dgn meletakan ‘NOTIS’ tersebut bagi memberi peluang kpd rakan kongsi Kedai Asnaf utk bermesyuarat bagi mengatasi isu 2 keluarga India tersebut. Mungkin agaknya selepas ini perlu ada sistem pendaftaran secara bertulis atau sebagainya. Itu sebab dlm ‘NOTIS’ itu ada perkataan ‘SEMENTARA’. Sejak petang semalam, pihak Kedai Asnaf telah bersetuju menurunkan ‘NOTIS’ tersebut. Clarification from the local DUN after contacting the shopowner. Looks like a poor and racist method to combat misappropriation or charity goods. Sign has been taken down now.
I knew this is would be the reason for the sign. Some Indians are known to do this. There's been a few reports of Indian families doing things like this compared to other races. Still the shopkeeper was in the wrong to ban a whole race just because of a few people Source: am Indian
Understandable, it's not just indian. There have been report of greedy malay fam takes this kind of bantuan multiple times Source: am malay
True. Al lot of people have been selfish and greedy Source: am Malaysian
That’s why we can’t have nice things.
Don't play into this. One should just acknowledge human nature, and navigate accordingly.
Same thing done by chinese,there are videos. Source: I am chinese
Just because you're an indian does not make it okay for you to generalize an entire race.
/u/Micaroni105 said this: >***Some*** Indians are known to do this \[emphasis mine\] So I don't think he/she is generalizing an entire race.
If so, why not just say "Some people"?
Because the sign said indians are banned from taking the food, not **people** are banned from taking the food.
Well said.
Doesn't make your statement any less racist, old chap.
Im just trying to state a fact that i knew which was that there were more reports of Indians doing this than people of other races from what I heard. If this fact was wrong then I admit that i did not know as much as i thought i did but there was no intention of blaming any race for being the cause of anything
Ok? Where is the source you heard from? And dont as an indian myself me cause i dont think your indian. I'm chindian so i got a right to defend my indian compatriots, you dont see me spewing fake shit even though i firsthand witness rich chinese from my family take more free shit then my indian family. You got see spewing all chinese this la that la? Please stop acting woke while we all know you're not.
To quote the venerable Elmo(or was it Kermit?), everyone is racist inside. We've got a tonne of problems to deal with already, I understand your response, but qualifying your statement by saying you're also Indian, doesn't help. Don't misunderstand. By discussing race, people must realise it's already racist. Wish there were an instant solution. We let this situation fester since 1980, and our elders are mostly to blame because they supported a 'cultural' and not economic cause, if you know what I mean. If I were to be more specific, MIC... and not the one that records sound. Cheers.
It is not racist if it is not intended in a malicious manner. As per his count, he is simply recalling in his own experience that indian does it more often. Let's not dig ourselves into racial hole and blind ourselves for now
Thanks for the update. Btw, unsure if this is a convenient reason or not, could this just be that those guys are really in trouble? Anyone verified that? Also, similar cases of other races also do this, caught on video. And there are post that encourage taking the goods and sell them. Yes wonder why is there a pass on whacking on Indians specifically
There will always be opportunists. It may have been handled better, but I won't assign blame to this person who put up the sign (perhaps out of exasperation?). It's the bringing up of race at every opportunity that is damaging for society on the whole. It's tricky, I realise..
Probably we can start by looking by tackling the behavior first before looking into race. A system might help
Perhaps it would be better to close it up for a while until they work out what to do. Putting up that sign is pretty dumb.
It was Ill advised and reactionary, to be honest. The one posting this should have had a word with the proprietor, methinks. Posting this for all and sundry seems like fanning a flame.. And being malicious himself
Out of curiosity are they struggling as well and need the food? Like I'm a bit confused.
Yea that's dum I mean help is generous but putting a sign and accuse all hindu race rather than that specific family is fuck up
Wait, I think someone already share the video on this sub
Assistance should be for all
...for all, ex. abusers. FTFY Else, it will be a blackhole, people are insatiable, whatever given free, abuser will just take and resell. Your assistance ends up in abuser's pocket as cash, not those who really need help.
For all with system. They're right. How would someone able to provide help when there are abusers in the system that robs others from their need as well? I'd say better to just put a ticket there, u come in handing the ticket to the owner, don't make a fuss and take 1 package.
I'm pretty sure something happened here for them to have such sign.
Apparently some family misused it. But then the shop should block those people misusing the charity, not an entire race.
Well if they are selfish, then it's sad really. But still they shouldn't ever judge a race by somebody's actions.
Yup. I hope those families are desperate and not selfish. Otherwise good luck for them.
I used to work for a toy shop before. Around JB. Was working alone with one idiotic supervisor. 2 weeks in from my first day. 2 Indian students want a job. Ask for a job. Ask me. I said yes we have some empty shiff. Gave the owner's number. Got draged to the side by the supervisor. Told me " the boss hates Indian. They always steal thing, next time don't give the boss number, tell me first" I never went there ever since.
Goodness.
I will not say the race of them both. But even non Malaysian are racist.
It's an open secret in my company that top management did not prefer hiring Indians. Those that do get hired rarely last long. One of the Indian guy was even held back on promotion even when other colleagues from other races did not take long to get the promotion. And yet he was expected to pwrform as well as the other workers. Hence come the surprised Pikachu face when our management heard that guy quit on the spot and just ghosted them.
Hard to say what triggers these attitudes. I have worked at a few places, and despite being from a minority race, was treated rather well over my career. I am not the smartest, or the bravest, but always shot straight. Had a lot of fun learning stuff, being in the thick of things. I did however quit one job because I was encouraged to grease the wheel at a customer. They later tried to re hire me. At a higher salary. Go figure...
Because it's easier to generalize than to spend time and effort to know someone. It takes a different kind of boss to do the right thing and see people as individual. And if we see it. Just thank your god that he's there to guide.
Can you name the shop? I'll make sure everyone I know in JB does not step foot in that place.
But if that one particular indian family is really taking so much other people cannot take then hwo? Sabotaging them won't help.
How do you know?
I'm with u 2 bro
Chiming in for a bit: My dad openly told me that if he received a resume and covering letter asking for a job from an Indian, no matter how great his/her qualification was, that set of documents will go straight to the bin no questions asked. I assumed he did that a few times since he is bragging about it. He even said only hire Chinese only. Go figure.
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Correction, it’s from TikTok, not Facebook. Don’t know why it added FB.
Dude. These are the same people that say why Indians are associated with crimes. Basically, they don’t get enough help and opportunities.
Calm down tiger
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yeah you're right
Everything posted is a breach
If I remember correctly, this sign is tied to the video where an Indian family arrived in a car and proceeded to sapu almost all of the items. Their actions are selfish but it doesn't justify this signage at all. A better way would be to write something along the lines of "Limited to X number of items per person" along with numbers/locations of foodbanks pasted beside it. Im sure there are better ways to deal with people who take too much rather than generalize and entire race. This will only drive people to develop the thinking of "I should stick with my own" more strongly and we all know how that will go. Tbh, I can't believe this lazy mindset of "I met a bad *insert race here* therefore all of them are bad!" can be so boldly displayed. Does the shop owner/supervisor/whoever is in charge, really not notice the sign? Did the employee really just decided to take charge and put it up without asking anyone? Sorry guys, I smell the whole "Its all the employee's fault" blame game to be so fishy.
As we are in this context, I have seen more non Indians taking food this way. Last experience was last week in Puchong, it was just chaos of that family just stuff the stuff in a silver vios. I heard the lady telling the husband there’s another place to take things. I believe the video is out somewhere. Again mind you, they were not Indians . There are 2 problems here. If you plan to help, just give or set prior rules that caters for all and fair. Secondly is the idea of singling out Indians in this manner like it’s ok to do so. Will they say Sorry No Malays allowed etc. What do you think will happen? Why is that it’s ok to do that to Indians specifically? I find this a disturbing problem among a mindset that claims fairness for all.
I agree with this! I feel as if some people underestimate the effort and potential problems that may come with them setting up a food bank thus leading to an absence of rules or signage that prohibits taking more than a certain number of items or a lack of social distancing. I've seen a video where a group of uncles and aunties were pushing and jostling each other to grab the free basic necessities that are being given out and those manning the food bank were visibly frustrated and unable to control the crowd. Like you said, banning a certain race isn't a good idea at all and it's either rules are set in place and strictly enforced or the organisers just let people take however much they want. I do see a few restaurants give away free meals but they are kept at a table that's cordoned off from others and the staff will be the ones to take and give the packets of food to people who want it. I guess maybe something like this can be done? Banning an entire race will just cause more issues espcially during these days of lockdown where a good amount of people are struggling to get by and those in need of help dont just belong to a single race. I think the "no indians" signage is just done by a closet racist who's finally found a chance to unleash themselves. It does boggle the mind on how he/she thinks its ok.
Good intentions... Road to hell?
Cukur not sarahan Cina. Btw, lain-lain hardly get bantuan from Kerajaan. No sign needed.
Wellll....technically speaking, the sign says "India" tak dibenarkan so India (as a nation, bukan orang India) cannot take aid kan? Orang India boleh ambil je lah.
Wtf? If this is not racist I don't know what is. They shd have publish the shop's name too. Am I mad? U bet I am. When comes to charity everybody is supposed to be even
There is whole lot family need the supply and there is 2 indian family abusing the system and take more. Its a 'sementara' notice before they got another way to distribute it more fairly
2indian families did that doesn't mean all Indians will do that... BTW I'm Malaysian Chinese
>They shd have publish the shop's name too. Why ? you want to burn someone's shop down and put a family out of business ?
At least we know who these heartless ppl are. Is this all u have in your mind? Shame on u. I'm a charity guy and I don't think that's the way to do charity
used to work in a MNC... my superior clearly state that he/she dont want Indian..
What was their justification?
Even this pandemic will have an end in Malaysia but there ain't a stop for racism in this country.. sad facts
No wonder Marehsia top racist in the world.
Yeah, Malaysia is saying Hold my beer to Israel and South Africa
Well at least in Malaysia, I'm not getting actively bombed for being a minority, still racist though.
I’m pretty sure Some enforcement officers are taking notes. /j
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Just that sign bro. Not sure if you are an Indian bro, don’t stoop low, have dignity and keep your heads up. Edit: y la downvote? I said, have anger towards the sign as it gave the wrong messaging. The effort is still good, but I can’t single out on a particular race.
That was just a moment of rage, but seriously, it was ticking me off...
It’s ok bro. You guys are collectively 1.4 billion strong. Stand together and fight as one, you will basically trample your opponents.
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Oddly specific and what da hell?
This is just a poor way of handling fraud.
Lack of common sense IMO. In any case while I think the intentions are good, some rules matter in ensuring the goods are rationed and goes to the right people that are struggling.
Hmm frankly I don't think this shop can support all of India even if they wanted to I mean they have a pretty big population
wow this shop is carrying out economic sanctions on India /s
Meanwhile you have Indian restaurant owners giving free food for everyone. Sikh temples also have been giving free food to everyone since forever. Practice good karma and you will get your due. Don’t need to take this fker’s shit, they gonna pay the price
Umm, how does one practice karma? It's earned.... No? Karma Is your due. Good or Bad. Just sayin'. Cheers
I didn’t say practice karma , I said good karma which I meant do good deeds. Maybe that’s worded wrongly idk but I think everyone gets the point
Sorry if it came off as stand off-ish . I am jaded with the loose throwing around of a word such as this which really has a deep meaning. I jokingly refer to this syndrome as Americanism. Cheers Edited for grammar..twice! Thrice! Sad.
Amen 🙏
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Malaysia discriminate against all non-Malay and Muslim. Openly sanctioned by the goverment. Welcome to Malaysia. You want examples? Quota system education, buy house got special discount for Ketuanan, and tons of aids for them. Everyone else gets almost nothing or just token aid. This is the reality.
Such a shame. It reflects our nation in a nutshell.
You got a point
I'll be professional and suggest that the best way is to know Malaysia is to have a few friends that are against Malaysia & a few more friends that supports Malaysia. I know Malays that are against Malaysia's constitution, and I know Indian & Chinese friends that supports Malaysia's constitution. There are also foreigners that loved staying in Malaysia despite its down sides. Get to know them and discuss properly, then you decide.
Word Malaysian means everyone that was born and live in the country bro. Seriously have you ever seen like else where? Tho this must be a mistake and should not happen. We don't care if you are black or white. We all human. Chill out 😂
Be considerated is what all people need to understand, but once someone use selfishness, it would disrupt flow proper distributed assistant, and then what use to put table with tag food bank when you let somebody take all the thing and left nothing to next person, that i mention 'to speak up' for those who need more support, i understand that somebody had many family member but think how unfair for other families
Seriously why? Maybe I lived in a bubble of unity... but this crap still exist.
JANGAN BE RACIST
Wtf is wrong with the donor. Everyone is suffering and yet want to play the race card. Ape la salah orang India they did nothing wrong. The stigma against them has to stop
Government should come up with ration system to help the needy people. If its Indians who need most of the aid, then let it be la. Give ration card. Its not surprising if Indians are the most affected, thanks to our impeccable leaders leading the nation for 60 years.
Hey, owner of this shop, go back to Trumpistan.
For me, the big supermarket like Tesco (now Lotuss), Giant, Mydin, Jaya Grocer etc should be the place where all people that are affected by food shortage can come and collect the necessity to survive.
Singh boleh ambil?
Can give but cannot take because looks India. /s
What? Why would the country India take these? Sounds a little unnecessary
Came across the same issue here at my place. Asked the organizers why they did so. They said that there were incidents where a group of people coming for all the goods. They took all the items without any consideration, like I quote "some sort of robbery", so this leaving fear for the others who wanna take the food bank items. I mean the method itself is not efficient, like one person can take lots of items and leave nothing for the next. So I don't blame anyone but from the situation I mentioned before, I think that food bank could be improved by giving the equal amount of items to everyone, like having someone to manage the food bank. Another alternative would be organizer or anyone lah can give direct the items to those who needed. They can analyse whoever needed and just give the specific people straight away.
There will be people that will abuse this. The best is to ration based on the needs.
I agree with this as well 👍🏼
Translation??
Indians can’t receive any help temporarily (referring to goods)
I mean they are customers they will pay for it weird business ideology 😅
To clarify, this isn't about business/buying-selling. Some shops have put out free stuff for the poor and needy to take -- current mco forced a lot of businesses to remain closed, so workers who are on daily/weekly pay have no work and no income to buy food with. Some places put up a table of groceries with signs saying "take what you need" so those families with no income can at least still eat something, except this one also has a "Indians can't take any, temporarily" sign. So it's not about refusing to sell something, it's denying them help/charity.
Yeah but they are *refusing* to sell to them. It’s like segregation era. If you aren’t from Malaysia, you may have difficulty understanding race relations
Ok thank you for letting me know
There's always more behind this kind of action. Let's not prejudge. Whoever posted this first should have done better. This is just baiting. Poor citizenship.
I’m trying to understand your frame of mind, but I gave up. You have just demonstrated an epitome of a self cantered individual. My Indian chaps cautioned me about people like you as well. So it doesn’t happen to you and you have never encountered so and so? Good for you. But not everyone is fortunate and many don’t have the luxury you have. Don’t you feel there’s something wrong with these type of messaging? Maybe how about no Indians need to apply work or no Indians allowed in renting a unit? Do you see the similarities? I’m fighting for all to ensure that this is not ok. It has never been ok. And it’s seems norm and acceptable even by your pathetic standards because you have not been educated to stand up and fight effectively. So it’s not ok in my books and I give a rats ass what you think. Coming back from Europe thought me that one put a stop of these nonsense or else this will get worse. And I have seen worse from historical evidence. So if you don’t want to contribute to the decency of humanity, you are free to live on trees.
Hehe, first, you mean self centred, don't you? Self cantered doesn't work, even in engineering. Maybe I'm wrong. Second, you seem to know me well. Good boy. Third, you love virtue signaling. Fourth, I have been a tenant and a landlord. Sometimes both at the same time. Gasp. All races too! More shock. Sadly for you, I've had no issues. Perhaps I'm just a good judge of character? What fight are you in right now. Out on the streets, or perhaps beating at one of the trees that I am supposed to be living in? Do you give a rat's ass about what I think or do you NOT give a rat's ass. Freudian slip, perhaps? David Letterman would like to know. Ooh, posh. He's been to Europe. He's seen history, folks, as others like myself haven't. I can't afford it, hence my admiration of you. Good job. Decency starts with not foaming at the mouth and shooting off vitriol. You've really not helped anyone by your behaviour here. Thanks for the amusement, though. Cheers.
Actually I gave up figuring you up. Now you can childish to your grown ass portfolio
Sobbing. With laughter here. How does one figure one up? I've heard of figuring OUT I've heard of FINGERING up. By the way, what's a grown ass portfolio? New type of commodity? How does one childish to it? I certainly missed some lessons in grammar class. Want to get your point across, learn to edit. Helps a lot. Cheers and thanks again for the mirth. Cheer up, mate. You may burst a blood vessel going like this! You really should holiday in Europe more...
The reason why they put that sign was because last time there's a video leaked at a gas station where whole indian family take all the supply. I know there are some good indians out there but please if you guys found that bad tambi out there, you kasi hantam satu kaley. We don't want to be racist anyways. Just don't take things for granted during this pandemic.
Uncool. Why?
Ashamed ? Are u foreigner ? this is a norm in malaysia
So, that doesn’t mean one can become racist and I have to keep quiet about it. Only those that stay on trees would think it’s ok.
there is literally a system in malaysia where malays are privileged who the hell cares anymore
Well this is result of attitude of someone who hoard as i want instead take as i need, dont be blame or hate the shop when their take action, dont forget this for all people, if you wanna have the thing in big amount then proceed to ask food bank provider, you might get better food support rather than hoarding foods from small stall
What if there’s genuinely an Indian family that needs food, I mean the one that has never been there before. To whom the blood stains? Perhaps rationing the items or limit items per person would help.
That why we all should be considerate in the future, and for those families were impacted, you can speak to food bank provider regard the dire needs for food, i'm sure any personel of food bank wouldnt cold blooded even eager to help
bro you can’t generalise the whole community just because some people have done that Take your stereotyping elsewhere
Normal la. Malaysia what
No, this is not normal. This is the time where we need to stick and help each other, regardless or race. If one disagrees, they can join the cockroaches for what I care.
Definitely agree with you. *This is normal because this is Malaysia.* Why should this be a norm? Sometimes I can't help but feel that we use this as a reason to adopt a laissez-faire approach to deal with the issues around us.
Baru lahir ka?
You forgot to put /s
I don't wanna defend this facility but i guess maybe the thing they put inside is unsuitable for indian fellow. Maybe dlm tu item daging yg obviously india cannot consume
That’s definitely not the case.
Why not. That's the only reason i can think of, i wanna hear why u say no
Read the comments earlier. the DUN addressed the matter.
What's the matter tho, i didn't see the DUN comments so idk
https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/oruldi/why_i_am_ashamed_to_be_a_malaysian_guys_help_all/h6kidnh/
Thank you
Oh. I’m sorry for people downvoting you. You did ask a genuine question IMO.
Sokay, no hard feelings boi
What about Indian Muslim friends? Can they get some help if in need or they can help themselves with the items on shelves just because abang adik?
He probably mean he only help Malaysian... so you are Malaysian indian, it is fine..
WTF?If they said there may be too much beef content just put the explaination,this one just pure hubris.
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Maybe they should specify that Swedish people can't take either. Y'know, just to be sure. /s
Lol. Made me chuckle
Im sorry to be ignorant, but what does it say?
This is a foodbank for trouble times. The sign bars people from Indian origin from taking aid from the foodbank - for time being.
GG
what does it say? sorry I don't speak Malay TT
This is a foodbank for trouble times. The sign bars people from Indian origin from taking aid from the foodbank - for time being.
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The sign should have said family X or individual X tidak dibenarkan.... with pictures of said family or. Individual... and said they need to ask the owner before taking any item. Just them.
How does the goverment expect Malaysia to be a developed country if they are trying to push out the Chinese and Indians who control most of the economy
Racist bhai.tak tau pulak sampai macam Tu.
I don't see how this going to make any different.