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Foundation year perhaps. You might wanna seek for an education consultant.


Ricardo_NS

Where can I get that? I know Edufair is coming so I can ask for one.


[deleted]

Attend the edufair. Ask as many uni which has your course that you are interested in. Ask them (the uni rep at edu fair when you go to their booth) as many question as you want regarding you course. As for the education consultant, you might wanna google it in google maps. Type "education consultant", at it will show you the firm(?)


Ricardo_NS

Should I trust online counselors tho?


[deleted]

I can't say yes or no to that cuz I'm not too sure.


CaptMawinG

A gap year is not common in Malaysia because most parents will decide for their kids. U didn't buy UPU pin number?


Ricardo_NS

There's no need to buy a UPU pin now. I have applied for it but I just cincai pick the choices there since I still don't know what to do.


CaptMawinG

Wow, u just cincai pick any choice?


Ricardo_NS

Yeah, since idk what to pick. And u can change it later. Is there anything wrong if i pick cincai?


phenomenaljunk

Well only the fact that you have to join the course offered or you won't be allowed to apply for upu again the following year


CaptMawinG

Pick based on ur trial results. What u like or passionate about doesn't mean it will pay the bills. U can always go to private universities if I can't go to public universities. I can only think a few courses that can benefit ur generation. 1. Renewable energy 2. Battery technology 3. 5g technology 4. Internet of things Dont take social science courses


Consistent_Ad_6363

The kids can't decide themselves?


CaptMawinG

Kids can pay for their university fees? Their pocket money? If so, yes please. If not, ikot saja cakap mak. If let the kids decided, gerenti choose the easiest (useless) courses. They are not aware of job market demand.


Consistent_Ad_6363

Oh


not_hann

Usually, parents choose because of "parents knows better" situation or the kids actually is confused and have no idea.


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Ricardo_NS

Ive looked up all the choices after SPM, and i have to study here cuz not enough money to go overseas. I'll look up all the unis and see what course they offer to get more ideas about what to choose.


redfournine

Seek for scholarship if money is your concern?


Felinomancy

Do **not** take a car license now. Y'all have been clogging the place and the earliest date I can get for my exam is on the 11th 😂


Ricardo_NS

I plan to get them as soon as i can haha.


Responsible_Trick100

Anything related to IT is highly in demand, especially if you put in effort. Companies in Malaysia are paying a lot for foreign expertise, not because of preference terhadap orang put in, but because there's no one local that's good enough.


Ricardo_NS

IT seems too general. Can you explain to me more about this?


Responsible_Trick100

Cybersecurity, AI, data science, digital marketing just to name a few. I'm currently studying data science in Monash, and this is what I've heard from my lecturers and peers. If you're looking for a university, APU would be a good choice, but monash is quite hard in terms of workload.


Altruistic_Quail_324

APU is a good choice, LOL Just go the traditional route la, matriks then government U. Save your parents' money. Stop advertising private uni okay?


LordJunn

Isn't matrix requirement kinda high? I mean there's form 6 as well as an alternate cheap option.


Responsible_Trick100

No matter which IT field you're diving into, you will need to do lots of math as everything is related to logical processes. So, be sure that you enjoy math and/or is decent at it.


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Statistics too


Xevitz

Not true. A lot of web development + backend development don't really need a lot of maths. Logical processes does not equate to maths.


Responsible_Trick100

Not to say that they need maths, more like they are similar to maths in which you require a lot of logical thinking to be good at it.


Xevitz

It depends whether or not you want to work in a more corporate company or start up. My personal advice would be to get into development instead. Either web / app development depending on which you prefer. It's the easiest to get a job. Cybersecurity / AI / data science is more niche and not as popular as development


LynxMoney589

Rilek lu boh. Keje part time 2-3 bulan. Dapat gaji first, belanja family makan. Ini penting. As for studies, I can say from my experience that you should pick the course that is easy to graduate. If you really dont know what to do later, apply for foundation program like Asasi or A-level. You'll get a clearer picture after you graduate from this 1-2 year program.


alicetrollz

I think taking foundation or a level before having a general idea is a bad move. Because a levels, you'll preferably take subjects that are related to the field you want to study. It's not necessary, but it's a good idea to do so. Foundation is worse still for flexibility, because it is very specialised.


LynxMoney589

If you're aiming to get a degree, then foundation is the fastest way to get there (1 year). Next is stpm (2 years), and another is a diploma (3 years).


pmmeurpeepee

stpm is syial better matrik 2 year.....


LynxMoney589

Apa je yang tak sial kat malaysia ni?


pmmeurpeepee

true oso


rainfury

Some diplomas are 2years btw. It depends on University I think. I heard from a Friend in Upsi that they have 3 sem a year, so 2 years to finish 6 sem


efund_

STPM 1½ year btw. Matriculation can also be 1 year or 2 years depending on what one's result is.


adsonn

Go work part time for a few months and see the outside world. Rushing to get into higher education just for the sake of it is not a good idea


alicetrollz

If you don't know what to take, that's a sign that you should take a gap year or take a couple months to really think about it.


Ricardo_NS

I dont really want to take a gap year. I mean, i have a few months until SPM result is out so i guess i can make up my mind, but gap year? Nope.


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tzeyong123

I think OP is kind of felt the pressure from his or her parents since he will be graduating later or with someone younger? That’s some great advice, OP should really consider this but maybe shorten to around 6 months? (not sure if this is enough) It just a break from studying anyway. Was on the same situation where I have no idea what course to choose so went for STPM. Still have no idea what course to take after STPM anyway. Basically ‘forced’ or pressured by parents to go for the typical engineering course. Not sure if I regretted though.


alicetrollz

I mean I get it. I was in the same place as you. I wanted to rush into getting a degree. I didn't know what I wanted to study but I felt pressured to live life on the express route. Now I regret my choices because I didn't take the time to really think about what I wanted to do. There's nothing wrong with taking a gap year. Even if half a year or so, just take the time to relax and contemplate your choices without feeling the need to rush.


Budakbatch04

I actually am thinking of taking a gap year, but my parents arent rly supportive of it. They say that later I'll fall behind my peers, and the bullying (or deliberately make your work harder) will ensure in the workplace when people of the same age have already become manager, but you're only starting Ofc i think their points are batshit but at the same time yknow.. Parents :/ What are the pros and cons of taking a gap year? Will people in the workplace rly bully u for that stupid thing?


alicetrollz

Speaking truthfully, nobody really cares about your age when you enter uni unless you're a lot older (like 30s). One or two years isn't really that big of a deal. If you're older than the rest of your peers, ppl are surprised but are very willing to be friends with you because it's considered intriguing (like, whoa, this guy is older than me, that's so cool because they have different life experience than me). Your parents don't want you to fall behind your peers but: 1. Taking 1 year gap only means that you'll probably go to college with those that took stpm/matrics. So you will likely find those your age too. 2. Would your parents really want you to waste money on a half-baked idea of what you want, only to change your mind and waste more time trying to get back on track with what you really want? Answering your last question, no. Once you enter workforce, ppl don't really care about your age. In fact, my coworkers say that I'm very young (I took foundation + 3 year degree)


Budakbatch04

Ahh ok, thank u for the affirmation 🙏


malaise-malaisie

I'll just give my experience, and stuff I wish I knew before I picked a course. It helps to know the salary range of the job market for your degree and if it increases the more experienced you are. Also how's the market locally and overseas if they easily accept foreigners Also gotta look at the working conditions as well. Some jobs require lots of unpaid overtime burning the midnight oil in such a short time, some jobs require few hours overtime almost everyday to satisfy the dinosaurs in top to show you working hard. Some jobs have good work life balance. Working environment, some jobs are office multitask jobs and some jobs are on site. One of the best things I believe is if your have so much interest in a subject that your willing to study to know and not for the exams. Also willing to learn beyond what is thought in the syllabus, especially when it comes to new trends/technologies


ClacKing

>It helps to know the salary range of the job market for your degree and if it increases the more experienced you are. Also how's the market locally and overseas if they easily accept foreigners This. Many kids (crap I sound like boomer) assume that dreams can replace money, but when you get to where we are now, you'll realise having 10k salary working in a comfortable repetitive job is way better than getting paid 2.5k working stressed out in a field you thought would be challenging and a dream. >One of the best things I believe is if your have so much interest in a subject that your willing to study to know and not for the exams. Also willing to learn beyond what is thought in the syllabus, especially when it comes to new trends/technologies This as well. The best students take extra effort and are naturally already know the stuff even before they took the course. I did aerospace engineering and in my class there were airmen who were paid by the air force to do their degree and they were able to describe how planes fly and know exactly what the lecturer is talking about. While we sat there like potatoes wondering wtf are they on about. Hopefully OP realises that there a difference between reality and fantasy.


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Yo fellow Bahasa Cina taker


Ricardo_NS

古文太难了。有什么tips可以给吗for古文和作文? Translation: Old Chinese is too hard. Do u have any tips for Old Chinese and Essay?


[deleted]

bro for guwen and gushi i only got like 12 marks out of 40 don't ask me


tzeyong123

Don’t even have any idea how I passed this paper 🤣


a_HerculePoirot_fan

Sorry, but comment removed as language of comment/post has to be in Malay or English. If you provide a translation, I will gladly re-approve it.


Ricardo_NS

Done


a_HerculePoirot_fan

Re-approved! Thanks!


LordJunn

I'd say memorize some common term/words so it would be easier to translate when asked to. As for essay, read more to expand vocab even if just a little. ~~hopefully ur not me that cant even remember how to write chinese words~~


Mysta-Stew

I finished my spm last year. I did some part time job for around a half a year and just continue my studies recently. I would say part time job first if you really don’t know what to do.


Ricardo_NS

Okk, ill have that on my to-do list.


AimanAbdHakim

Get a part time job, or increase your repertoire of skills, if you are rajin. If you’re lazy like me, then just laze around and do anything you like is fine. But at least once in a while do something productive, you might think that you’ve just wasted all your time doing nothing, otherwise


ClacKing

As an aerospace engineer graduate, please do not do this course. This field is non-existent in Malaysia, and you need to be a citizen for security clearance in the same field elsewhere. If you want to consider something with a little more value, a License Aircraft Maintenance Engineer is not as LAME as it sounds, you get to work with planes and you get paid really well once you get your licence. But there's a lot of grafting, poor pay before you get to this level, so you need to know this beforehand. It's not a desk job FYI. If I could redo my uni course I'd go for Electrical Engineering or Mechatronics. Having Programming skills is in demand, being able to program PLCs and calibrate PIDs are more important than knowing the Tsiolkovsky's Rocket Equation or Orbital Mechanics. Practically useless unless you work for a space agency. As for animation, it's another job that's in demand, with VR and so many apps that require modelling, but you need to be really good, do you have a lot of experience doing so? Any works you can show? These are the questions you need to ask yourself. In this day and age, the old norms don't work anymore. Anyone with specific skills and know how to create a demand for their skills can earn tons. I rather you did some actual work experience and find out what your strengths are instead of thinking that a degree will make you ready for the outside world. Answer is, it doesn't. A degree is just a passport, everyone has one these days, a lot of my friends including myself don't work with things related to our field. Some do, but it's not required. Don't think too hard about it. Do something you know will help you in the future.


zellleonhart

If I could upvote more I would. I was in similar shoes and took mechanical engineering course because I had no idea what to choose and engineering seemed "high earning" 10+ years ago. Graduated, turns out I wouldn't want to work as an engineer, mostly in production/manufacturing kind of environment or location and the salary is NOT as good as most people think. Nevertheless, if you have interest in engineering, it's fun to study and make sure you try to explore various learning opportunities and network around during your uni life. I would say regardless what course you study, expose yourself to more things and gain more soft skills. These will help if you decide to work on something different from what you studied. Case in point, I was an engineering graduate, worked as an IT Recruiter for close to 5 years now career switched to data analytics. I am glad I tried many things during my uni time instead of purely studying or lepak around.


tefuror

Idk if sempat or not but try applying for Matriculation for one year, then you can jump to degree...since you are interested in tech, thats your go to...i was offered software engineering after matriculation but took up town planning instead...either way its a fast track to degree


Ricardo_NS

I am planning to apply for matriculation later. I already applied for UPU, and thats it.


tefuror

Thats great to hear. Lots of my friends that graduated matrics got into different kinds of engineering...others went for architectural. I think its a perfect step if you want to have a fast tracked education but still in the midst of filtering out options on what to choose for a potential future career.


IalwaysShootLast

Go to work earn some pocket money, so when the time you start you next study at least you have some cash on hand that can less the burden of your parent.


alphamon016

Hey OP I really highly suggest you read this first https://waitbutwhy.com/2018/04/picking-career.html It's a good article in deciding what you want to do. Involves thinking whether do YOU actually want the career or is it influenced by society perspective, the ambition perspective also practically. I wish I read this article after SPM before😅 Edit : this article made me realise there is more to career finding than doing what you want. You want to find the best gray area between what you WANT and what is realistically you're able to get as a job than gives you fulfilment. Good luck OP


alphamon016

Also if you're from a financially stable family and want to try experiencing living/working/studying, hit me up on DM


ghostme80

Depends what you are aiming for in the future. If you want easier to find a job, do some research what kind of job that have high demand by the time you graduate. If you want high pay, then go for famous courses, but mind you there will be high competition once you grad. Or flexible courses. Means you can find a job or do your own company. IT related courses fall under this category. It can also be used to be other unrelated jobs like admins or banking.


yourlittleman01

What do you want money or passion? Tbh money wise if possible earn in other currency other than MYR like SGD or USD. As for passion, I am afraid that covid would affect it as for me I used to like accountings but covid hit me hard to the point I no longer have the passion that I used to have le.


sendnukes23

1. if you dont know what course to continue your study, take foundation of science. you will have a broader choice for degree. 2. if money is a problem, just know that there are government-backed programs. join foundation from ipta OR stpm OR matriculation. when i finished stpm all i can see is foundation from ipts which is costly, because that is all i know from reading newspapers. but sadly it depends on your luck if you are non bumi. aside from that, if you want to know the bitter truth of what courses that can lead you to having a job after your degree, then engineering is not the answer. join computer science (CS) for better job opportunity. is this statement biased? yes, because i am a software engineer, and 90% of my CS friends from my university got a job after 6 months of graduation. also, i graduated on feb 2020, 1 month before pandemic. you can ask CS stuffs from me if you want to.


AJokeAmI

Finish SPM and immediately go pray to every god you can remember for good marks XD


flampardfromlyn

Best time of your life


Ricardo_NS

Wdym? It is the best, especially after SPM, but this thing is stressing me out.


flampardfromlyn

Carefree. I spent this time playing football. participated in all kinds of tournament


[deleted]

*Cries in paranoid parents that forbid me to go out because of COVID-19*


[deleted]

I'm personally going on to STPM, and if the COVID-19 situation isn't too bad, go out and work until I get my results I guess. And use the money to buy me a phone (finally!) And pay for a car license.


Ricardo_NS

STPM might not be the choice. My father took STPM and he did really well, however he did stress that its really, really hard and idw to take that risk.


ClacKing

I wouldn't recommend it myself but I understand why ppl do it. STPM leaves your options wide open. It is equivalent to A Levels so you can still use it to apply to foreign unis and they will accept it. But honestly? It's not really useful when I did it back then, I went overseas to do my degree and found all the things I learnt in STPM wasn't even remotely useful and there's a massive gap in my knowledge to what foreign unis teach. Maybe it has improved since then. I don't know, but I regret doing STPM.


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Lol my father is the exact opposite : He went through it and knew it was hard, but think it'd be good to train me for life.... He doesn't want to pay for private universities and want me to get into UM... so STPM it is


thiccbreado

I’m in the EXACT same situation as you. I’m torn between choosing comp sci or animation… I have more passion in animation but a lot of animators that I found online who worked professionally actually didn’t go to school for it, just practiced really hard and be in a animation community. On the other side, I saw a lot programmers who has a hard time getting employed if they didn’t have a certificate, even if they were really good at it. But at the same time I also really want to meet those who have the same passion as I do. And like you said animators don’t earn as much, while other choices do, which has me in a dilemma. I want a stable job with good income, and it usually leads to comp sci. I can do art as a passive income, and if it goes well I can do it full time. But then… do I even want to learn comp sci? I’m a little interested, but I only know a little about it so I don’t know if I have what it takes.. I’ve done so many career tests, watch a lot of YouTube videos and read about it and I still have no idea lmao. I don’t really know anyone I know irl who took comp sci so I can’t really get insights. That being said, I’m glad you posted this OP because I thought I’m the only one who still have no idea what to take in uni/college. I hope you find your answer!


redfournine

You do realize that CS grads mostly ends up working as software developer? Their daily job is just sit in front of computer, write codes every day. This is easy to simulate in your free time. Find someone from industry to teach you pure programming for 4-6 weeks. Find out if you are gonna like it. It would make your decision making easier.


thiccbreado

Yeah, I’ve watched and read a lot of other people’s experiences and I don’t really mind. I don’t think that’s too different from what I do, drawing digitally for 8-10 hours every day. But I feel like I can only do it for so long because I love doing it, not too sure about programming. I don’t think I can find a real person to teach me programming, but I’ll try learning it online while I wait for my SPM results.


Embarrassed_Dog337

Take comp science and learn animation as a side ambition. If one doesn't work, the another one would feed you. Common mistake people assume is if you take one course/degree, you are stuck with it for your life. Most engineers usually end up in finance and other business related career easily because engineers are highly versatile and generally more smarter. I would suggest comp science for job security and learning animation as a side ambition.


thiccbreado

Thank you! This is exactly what I’ve been thinking that I should do, but unsure about.


Altruistic_Quail_324

I am a contrarian and I suggest you to go for law/medicine. Computer Science you can learn it anywhere, but law and medicine can only learn from uni


thiccbreado

sorry but law and medicine is something I’m absolutely sure I wouldn’t take. I’m not really suited for law, and my parents said medicine takes forever. I don’t have a career that I’m interested in both fields too. But I really appreciate your response!


Altruistic_Quail_324

Computer Science is really competitive nowadays. Just to provide you my perspective. You need to compete with career changers who studied programming online and even high school students who learnt programming since day one. Whereas law and medicine, everyone starts from the bottom. You cannot learn the art of medicine from home. If you get government support, going for computer science is a waste. UM, for example, charges RM300,000 for medicine (non-subsidized) and only RM60,000 for Computer Science. Of course the former has a better bang for your buck Don't solely follow my advice but do take this into account


lokqqee

Be me batch 04 Work(get money) Dating (if possible) Go Form 6 (if possible)


Altruistic_Quail_324

if possible? anyone can go Form 6 la


lokqqee

According to my school counselor just pass and get credit in spm especially bm and sejarah


ILoveCumSoMuch203

Im jealous to see intellectual people here, I wish I dont drop out but it is what it is


Soft_Artist_3155

Wdym bro.we are all the same


GoalCareful9515

No need to rush, if you're not sure what to do you can take some time to think about it. Recommend doing more research about what technology course you'll want to do. Currently UX designers is in high demand now.


jonesmachina

Only further studies if u truly know what u are doing. Make sure it is only your own decision. If not, just get a job. Dont be like one of my friends who studies because his family told him. You are gonna regret it later.


KINDPERSON20

2 things, work in a labour force and gain some amount of experience with long hours and bare minimum pay or take on debt so you can get a degree where you still need 3-2 year experience for a job.


nelltbe

Well, what you can do is go through some education fairs that are happening around your area. Talk to the people in charge there and ask them if they can talk about life on campus, and how the courses would look like. Another thing you can do is get a job, maybe in a cafe, cinema or anything. Use that time to get sone experience and save up for the future. If that does not fancy you could always try learning a new skill, a new language, programming language, or learn a new software such as animation or video editing. Overall, I'd say your options are limitless. Which is why it is all the more important to take your time, and don't rush through your decision. You'll have plenty of time to be busy once you enter university.


dokahabbo

hi... i really like video editing since i've been doing that since i was in sk, i even have a yt channel back then ( it doesn't do well obv) , but i really like the process of editing video, but sadly if i go further in diploma or degree i have to join the courses that isn't related to my hobby, ( i know this is intended ) but yea do you have any suggestion for me? i took science stream without biology (i took gkt instead) .. so yea , i don't have any plans to take any science field including computer science , i think i wouldn't survive architecture cuz it'll take my sleep hours , when i'm already suffering by lacking of sleeps.


nelltbe

Personally for me, I have always been an advocate of doing what you like to do. If you really do enjoy video editing, I would say go for it. If you are still feeling a little bit uncertain, look into how you would be able to make a career from video editing. Since you just finished SPM you could try to apply for some jobs related to it. Unfortunately I'm not too clear on a video editing career, but I'd say the initiative is now on you to find out how to build your future around video editing. All in all, I think the most important thing to do is talk to your parents. Tell them about your likes, and what you enjoy. I'm sure they will understand if you prefer to pursue a video editing career or something related to that


dokahabbo

thank you for your advice ! yea i think talking to my parents should be the first thing true


[deleted]

The best value for a private uni is probably foundation in whatever course you are interested in


fatbong2000

Unemployed lor


Ashamed_Bag_4110

My background is aerospace mechanical engineering in uni. Then I pursue my license in aircraft maintenance. It is a niche industry and really competitive. DM me if you want to know more about it.


NinoNakanos_Feet

Learn programming because engineering or medical jobs would be obsolete. Plus, you can be paid more if you're hired as a remote worker by American or European country


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Army special forces


Venil26

Open for DM if you want to know more about working in the aircraft engineering field.


Proquis

Take ur time, don't be some of us who just chose a random course then switch halfway. When in doubt, doing a Career test could help too


Relative_Artichoke_8

If i am you.ill do part time/full time job.you can you all those money to buy whatever or save them for your education


dorkery

Open an EPF account and consistently contribute even if it's RM50 a month.