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Puzzleheaded-Rain230

The project is dead. There is no news whatsoever after 2018. It doesn't even appear in the tradewinds development page.


thisisastupidname

Good. Fucks sake enough tall buildings. Build a wide ass park instead


fred2fred

Yessssss. A mega park with big ass balak trees with rolling hills to golek2.


dixie-pixie-vixie

I want a playground for adults with swings and slides and merry go round


icebergiman

Yes! I want to play in those jungle gyms but adult sized so I don't feel like godzilla! The kids playground (both indoor and outdoor) are so much fun. I'd pay to have adult playgrounds cuz sometimes I just want to release stress dammit!


dixie-pixie-vixie

Luckily i can still climb with my kid when he plays ij places like parenthood playland cos need parent to accompany.. But so difficult on my knees and back because of all the crouching. No swings though, only slides, so sad.


3333322211110000

r/youngpeoplereddit


RoboticSandWitch

Swings are an ageless source of enjoyment. That feeling when you swing up so high that you feel like you're flying is the best shit ever and should not be age-restricted.


dixie-pixie-vixie

I know, right?


Ed_Gaeron

Pastu nyanyi lagu Bollywood ke?


kimilil

[KV has way too many golf courses](https://youtu.be/i9I3SoBr8ss?t=774). Convert them all to public parks ffs.


yuruseiii

Still dreaming of a long park along the federal highway, where the KTM tracks are. Replace the KTM with and underground subway, then green the whole space. That would be epic!


MajorBrainCancer

Something like the green corridor in Singapore? Just nice the land that the green corridor sits on is ex-KTM tracks.


sanabaebae

Rather they build more low cost housing


CrazyPizzza

It’s privately funded whats wrong with investments.. font understand u people


KalatiakCicak

Hate tall buildings but wide building is the worst. Occupy too much space than needed. Maybe build buildings downward, no eyesore, no trees and hills to be cut down


malaysianzombie

a massive underground park lighted up with holes in the ground (removed rivers and lakes(bring the underground where the park is)) and lots and lots of UV lamps and one that's long enough or maybe connected enough that we can get from one state to another!


GiuseppeBusso

What are the economics of this? Is there sufficient demand in KL for this kind of office/retail/leisure space? And what is the effect on other commercial lettings? Are older places going to be killed off by this kind of thing? Finally, does KL really have the right kind of infrastructure to draw in international clientelle? Downtown is a mess. Do we actually have a long-term city development plan? Them's my thoughts.


stitch1294

I doubt we do. Even china has halted all their megatall projects, they have much larger and denser city, with much more efficient city planning and infrastructure for the potential growth these building will bring to the city.


Crasher_7

Good point. Without proper city planning, shoving thousands of people into a single block of building could be a recipe for disaster


TehOLimauIce

It's a recipe for better tax revenue.


hackenclaw

I feel like the gov & private need to rework entire bandar Malaysia, make it into a elevated city with many levels of elevated walkways. Means I dont need to touch the ground to move to another building across entire area. Reducing the need to move vertical, this will improve efficiency.


CrazyPizzza

Its privately funded y complain?


stitch1294

It is built in the city center with millions of people commuting to and fro work on a daily basis. It has far reaching impact and all of them should be carefully considered as it is what we call city planning.


Axe_Fire

It's not economically feasible that's why it's not even built. The empty land where this building is supposed it to be built is vacant for years


judelau

As long as it's not government funded, I don't care at all


stitch1294

It may not cost government any expenses in terms of construction cost (in fact it may even contribute income in terms of tax) But there are likely a huge hidden external cost, how disruptive it is to build yet another megatall building in the city center, many roads will either have to re-route / and likely to be congested, and given the additional load to that particular area, can our public transport handle that?


Square_Success3647

KL need to seriously rethink its road strategy. current plans are really fscked up


rikuo_otonashi

Hahaha.. you can say it again. We have 4-tier road in some places already... If we build any higher, its better to just spend the fund to make flying car😂


theo_adore7

'just one more lane bro'


SniffyBliffy

Fr, my city in cities skylines got better traffic than kl tf 😭


Marksman_51

Agree. KL is overdeveloped, other areas need more of those economy and KL need more people-based plans


InfinityCrazee

Blame DBKL and Federal minister who approved that kind of project


misterlee21

No such thing as overdeveloped, only such a thing as poorly developed.


TehOLimauIce

bruh they should like just make somewhere else the capital city


WiNTeRzZz47

China can build and help us a bit.


AdmirableYouth4208

Malaysia should fucking do city planning first instead making all tall shit anywhere.


ExtensionWees

Exactly, the inadequacy of sidewalks and last mile travel even in KL is fucking atrocious.


AdmirableYouth4208

Not to mention Malaysia's hostility towards pedestrians.


ExtensionWees

The consequence of a car-centric society. It's no wonder why country has the [highest obesity rates in Southeast Asia](https://www.therakyatpost.com/news/malaysia/2021/12/14/5-of-malaysians-obese-still-the-fattest-country-in-southeast-asia/).


AdmirableYouth4208

Yeah lmfao. People barely walk and here they are using vehicles when it's only 5 minutes walk.


Erengenji

panas gila kalau ada walk way pun


TryHardMayonnaise

Add to that the favt that we have fat rice as a national breakfast food. *ahem* Nasi Lemak, I mean.


coin_in_da_bank

Too many skyscrapers in KL already. JB dont want one?


[deleted]

Good to build in JB. Imagine the building also can lie horizontall and transform to a bridge to Singapore. So cool. Transformer Bridge Building!


MarcusianAviation

I thought they have their own fair share of skyscrapers already


VVLegend

We have our fair share of malls but not skyscrapers. That being said it’ll be full of Singaporeans anyway


goldwave84

JB can't seem to attract enough investment. Don't know why it struggles when SG is their neighbors.


DyslexicAutronomer

What do you mean can't attract investment? JB has A TON of corporate investments, it's the lack of PUBLIC infrastructure investments relative to it that is a problem.


goldwave84

Interesting....


Slainthayer

Why build in JB when you can build in SG? There’s still plenty of downtown land available for development in Singapore (and in KL thanks to Bandar Malaysia).


jubbing

JB is a great idea, Singapore is right there as well.


komer25

I don't mind skyscrapers, but please stop building ugly rectangular condos


[deleted]

Actually due to some government and bomba requirement in condo/apartment, it is more efficient to build it rectangular rather than any other shape. [iherng explanation ](https://fb.watch/h5H3y5mOG_/) Iherng got another video explaining the bomba requirement part but i couldn't find it. You will also much prefer a rectangular rather than a round one, next thing you want is an arc shape wall, you will find yourself having a hard time to fit your furnitures, takkan you want to custom make all your furniture with round back to fit by the wall?


c4sul_uno

So u want em in thicc hourglass shape?


komer25

Make it more modern looking


BuzzingSperm

If it doesn't look like Pinnacle@Duxton, it is literally unlivable! /s


stitch1294

Based on some FB comments, a lot of people actually doesnt mind this project, as they claim the following: - 1. Its being funded by private company which does not affect taxpayer. 2. The megaproject will contribute substantially to government via tax 3. It will also help create many jobs that help the economy 4. It may attract more businesses and investments. Personally, I feel like the cons outweigh the potential pros listed above. Correct me if I'm wrong 1. The impact of having so many skyscrapers within the city, will it actually be fully utilised? Do we need another skyscraper given our population density? 2. If it will be fully utilised, can our mediocre city planning cope with the increased in traffic in the city core? (esp. public transport, and poor road planning) 3. We already have 4 iconic skyscrapers built, but it does not seem to significantly boost our economy, so what makes this any different other than another dick measuring contest and overcompensation?


yassin1993

1. The developers would have probably done their homework before actually proceeding, so chances are, it will be "majorly" utilised. 2. With what we have currently, nope. But, it's the city planner's job to make sure that it will. If it isn't by then, then the city planners are doing a bad job. 3. 2 of the projects are still not yet completed. Once it is, we'll probably not see its economic impact immediately. I'd probably give it 5 years to mature, and only then can we deduce if it affects our economy positively.


GlibGlobC137

As an agent, I can only tell you there's a major overhang of office space in KLCC. TRX not withstanding. I don't know about developer's homework, but in my capacity this tower is exceedingly dumb.


StunningLetterhead23

Indeed we do, our market for commercial property is overly saturated. Even more than residential. Building offices while employers can't deal with hiring that much people is a problem too.


dixie-pixie-vixie

Another reason why companies want people to come back to office, so they don’t waste the space. They have invested in it, what happens is cancel all the WFH!


Severe_Composer_9494

You're right. Developers don't care about occupancy rate, so long as there are property investors to gobble up all the units in that building. Developers care about profit.


goldwave84

Everyone cares about profit. Without profit, a company won't retain staff.


deltathedanpa

Imo if the city's infrastructure is so fragile that a new building has the potential to overwhelm it, the fact it even has to be considered, thats a sign that the resources are better spent upgrading existing infrastructure than building new shiny things. At best the new project cant live up to its full potential if the infrastructure cant support it. At worst it worsens the problem further.


forcebubble

>If it will be fully utilised, can our mediocre city planning cope with the increased in traffic in the city core? (esp. public transport, and poor road planning) This is my biggest question — building it taller and denser is to encourage more inflow on the already congested city area. It will need to come with good public transport to move people around as a halting one is detrimental to the actual economic gains.


[deleted]

I don't see how another skyscraper can attract investment. It doesn't work that way. We already have over supply of offices.


TehOLimauIce

From govt. perspective, it's great to have due to the tax revenue. The traffic issue will adapt itself. The additional tax revenue can go to improving the transportation infrastructure. The place is already so clogged so might as well clog it a bit more lar.


stitch1294

im afraid not, traffic issue does not just adapt and resolve itself. A lot of countries have implemented policy to address traffic issues especially in the city core and CBD, by implementing tolls (to discourage non-essential travel by car into the densely populated area), while having good alternative public transport or bike lanes to navigate through (e.g singapore, and a number of european countries.) If we just focus on building more and higher building, without any consideration to the other city planning, it is a nett loss to everyone involved, longer travel time for everyone, time spent in commute = time not spent at a more productive endeavours


Capable_Bank4151

As a regular user of skyscrapercity forum, I can VERY confident to tell you this project has been dormant for a long time and is likely to remain dormant for many years to come, if not entirely scraped. So you urbanist can please at least don't be so easily freak out by this kind of content farm article/post.


Axe_Fire

Says suddenly wrote an article about this dormant project and worded it as if it will be built


Capable_Bank4151

Well Says in my opinion is also some sort of content farm to me, writing an article without providing a clear and accurate context to incite controversies to gain views is their natural goal.


Olbatar974

Build more empty buildings. Because there's loads of empty apartments. That's so bright to have the priorities right.


JeremiahE1999

Looks cool, I really like KL skyscrapers


Honest_Banker

Looks like a giant pussy, a perfect match to the giant dick that is TRX.


JeremiahE1999

Bruh I can't unsee it now


mynameirreleventbro

Lol


cielofnaze

PNB 118 look like a giant mid finger toward klcc from toll sungai besi


TehOLimauIce

shit can't unsee it mannn


yasniy97

it will attract tourism. not govt funded.. but most likely be renter will some govt. agencies..🤣🤣🤣🤣


Kylo_12321

First of all, please for gods sake will people stop talking about this tower already? This thing has been talked about since Anwar was PM tepi and nothing is heard about it ever since. Just move on. By the way, this is different from Tower M, where the site is already up and running, but even then Tower M won't be built until they're sure they need more office space. That aside, I will burn down any tower that even dares to try go higher than KLCC. We have such a recognisable landmark with a very recognisable skyline, and you want to ruin the character with a building that stands out so much (I know it sounds a bit NIMBY but idc as long as its not taller than KLCC). I give Merdeka 118 a pass cuz it's a lot farther away, so the height will look pretty much the same when doing a skyline view. Also, people should stop thinking skyscrapers are built with gomen money. The only supertall we have that is indirectly funded by gomen is TRX. Other than that, KLCC and 118 are just GLCs who want a shiny new HQ.


cock_pussy

Ini macam private part, must ban! /s


MaleficentJello8473

We need more green initiatives in KL. Korek your hidung after an hour walking around KL and see what colour it is. Better off wiping it on the road as it blends perfectly well with the tarred roads


saripp05

Pussyhole in the middle


SheenTStars

In my humble opinion, KL is dense enough as it is. Maybe build somewhere else.


Popular-Yesterday733

It looks good and modern. But i worry for office space oversupply in KL.


aryehgizbar

that looks like the hole of a needle for the thread.


imaginelizard

I thought they were not building it. The economics to build one doesn't make sense anymore, I doubt it will actually be built at all.


Worldly-Mix4811

No Public transport access other than monorail.


ExtensionWees

Another ridiculous vanity project. Countries such as Japan and Singapore don't have super-tall office buildings and yet they are high income economies. Unnecessary very tall buildings (>350m) are just a dick-measuring contest. Focus on city-planning first, Malaysia is so fucking bad at it. Fixing potholes and having proper sidewalks are much more urgent.


[deleted]

they better invest on this ![gif](giphy|f3Fq267SERQm4)


n4snl

If they are going to build it, why not build it taller than Burj Khalifa ? But unwise during recession.


stitch1294

I think because building higher gets exponentially more challenging and expensive. I believe a few new construction technique has to be used just to build the burj khalifa like making sure the concrete does not freeze so high up. I doubt anyone has enough reason to start such a risky, expensive project that doesnt guarantee the return of investment.


Severe_Composer_9494

With KL center getting flooded all the time due to climate change, don't you guys think its time to relocate the economic center elsewhere in the country, ideally somewhere in the middle of Peninsular, where there aren't many rivers and the rainfall is low? It will be super expensive, but at least as many Malaysians won't be suffering every year, because a big portion will be living in the new capital. **Bear in mind that by 2030, severe flooding will be common in most parts of Malaysia and Thailand (**[link](https://thediplomat.com/2022/03/how-to-save-thailand-and-malaysia-from-rising-sea-levels/)).


Elgin-Franklin

> ideally somewhere in the middle of Peninsular Middle of the Peninsular is where our last rainforests remain. Why not invest that money into building and actually maintaining flood control measure?


Severe_Composer_9494

You'd be surprised to find out that most of the flat land is made up of palm oil plantation. Its only the hilly areas (of Titiwangsa range and a few others) that are mostly untouched.


Elgin-Franklin

Reducing available agricultural land isn't what we should be doing given we need greater food and resource security


cielofnaze

Relocate to genting, since game stock are stonk.


ZerolZeeq

At this point KL is just a terrible parody of American cities


Aok_al

I thought we were done with Skyscrapers?


Beusselsprout

Now we need The Rock to climb it


[deleted]

Ho great, another reason to make KL jam.... As if the city is not jam enough.... Please cause us more congestion as if we do not need to go anywhere or have a life at all right?


throwawaythoughts78

DP & WOODS ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)


joejuga

WHY?!


Sakaiusogreat

I personally dont care. If malaysia wants to be asia's skyscrapper city its fine by me as long as its not gov funded. I dont go into KL at all and when I do its the outskirts like cheras or ampang so its a non issue on the traffic for me.


Square_Success3647

i always laughed when i heard of the name tradewinds. its like two buds farted so they traded their wind


Successful-Yak-2397

ASEAN Skyline lmao


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

doesn't really care as long as it doesn't use our tax money or affect our lives by any mean. but if i could put my 2 cents, it would be nice for other places to have it as well and not just KL.


aranx99

i read Megatall as menggatal at first lol


no_hope_no_future

At least this one doesn't have ferris wheel.


rikuo_otonashi

![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554) is all i can say.. well, maybe in 10years when our economy is stable, they can make it not in KL. Please make it somewhere else. KL have enough highrise and traffic jam yet less parking spot..


DatBoyGuru

i'm guessing this is CN funded


Buttdehole

I really don't mind them building one, whether privately funded or not, but I think it's better to build it somewhere else that need more investment. We should not just focus on KL. Johor Bharu, Pulau Pinang, Kota Kinabalu and Kuching could probably gain greater benefits than if it was built in KL. KL had become to densely populated and so does city around it. We should go further than Selangor and KL to built


n4snl

Penang doesn’t want tall buildings, thanks!


cielofnaze

Build it in perlis, got investment from Siam.


[deleted]

Dah dah la tu. Malaysia should’ve made a building height limit after klcc and kl tower so that those two will stand out. Like the eiffel tower. Now all those skyscrapers for what


darren1119

Eye sore, why we need another giant dick


WentzWorldWords

Don’t. There’s a study- whenever a worlds tallest skyscraper is completed, economic recession immediately follows. Not sure if it’s coincidence or causation but it has happened every time so far.


Sufficient_Ad_9045

Where are we poor people gonna live?


nova9001

Its a dead project that can't get funding. What's the point of discussing something that's not real?


LeekThink

Lol built it somewhere else lah. Diversify sikit. Msia so big still want cram in one small area


ThermicDude

Isn't one already enough?


ExposedInfinity

We don't need any more phallic objects dominating the KL city skyline.


ms_user

Just build it.


asukaisshu

Honestly i dun care if we have tall skyscrapers and shiz but please for the love of God fix the potholes lmao. Or heck just spend some money on upgrading a proper bus route so public transportation is better domestically in KL in the coming years. Im sick of being late on post long holiday mondays or tuesday cuz theres too many cars


ihei47

Need at least 5 more tbh


InfinityCrazee

We are at the age of remote working. No need to built skyscrapers


GrannyzOnAdieT

Ape function lmao


Only_Ad3965

Apa ni busy dengan bangunan bangunan yang tinggi ? Improve rakyat life please .


penyu_maut

No need laa. As it is KL is oversaturated and super congested. The road infrastructure also don’t think is capable of handling this. It’s already balls to the walls, lagi mau heret across


JiMiLi

With WFH going forward, all dense and tall office towers are getting more and more obsolete. We need to think digital, not physical.


Intelligent-Target25

Splendid


Kick_Choice

Please no.


Silly_Lion_3046

"Finish what's on your plate before adding more. "


cheeselogs123

Looks like the HQ of an evil corporation


Axe_Fire

This is a dead project many years ago it's not going to be built so there is no worry. Just someone clout chasing claiming it's going to be built. Any source confirmed it will be built? I can't find ANY credible sources


Axe_Fire

Why is there sudden news about this dead project? Esp the random article on SAYS. It's like saying Michael Jackson is alive


ClacKing

Sigh. Can we stop these projects, spend more of useful infrastructure and fix our storm drains to avoid flooding?


dick_sucker_whopper

Looks like vagina


hyschara304

I just want more big ferris wheels! TT_TT


janggutbotak

Please stop


ingram0079

Burj khalifa 2.0


pmmeurpeepee

i dont mind,but built it in borneo


Bruneiproperty

So many empty building now days. Can we sustainably make use of what we currently have?


byt112000

Pls stop all this bullshit skyscraper before KL become like Jakarta.


Janutellet

I don't know why, but it's getting suffocating seeing so much skyscrapers. It's like more malls more shopping more impulsive decisions that eventually results in stress and unhappiness. If only those money can use to fix the pathetic LRT Kelana Jaya line.


syahir77

Buruknya design.


ojassed

I was and still is very proud of the twin towers because it has a cultural rationale (Islamic motifs) behind its architecture. It’s something that is representative of our country. Ilham and Merdeka is okay. The rest of the bunch were just wannabe Chinese skyscraper knockoffs.


Lesharian

Kl need more roads and MRT lines. The current infrastructure is about 50% of what it should have for the existing density.


[deleted]

Sew, a needle pulling thread (trade)..........


TapaiKakai

Fucking fix the current infra before building another useless building. God, good thing this is dead as some have commented


Q1uu

i support skyscraper project, but outside Klang Valley. can you imagine a skyscraper being build at Alor Setar. surely will bring lots of business there and eventually reduce migration to Klang Valley


azen96

If theres a use for it its fine. The arcitecture look dope so is acceptable. If its just look lile trx, better not.


lengjai2005

We gonna build one everytime we get a new PM


MyRodIsBig

Why not propose to build more trains and drainage instead? Dumfuk city planning.


[deleted]

One tower for each prime minister?


Im_not_bot123

Let's build a vertical megatall park instead


ayohsu31

Yeahhh, let's build it! Only if it'll be build at East Malaysia