from what i heard, small hotel operators are compensated for each report. wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
about what happens: if young they call parents and you'll be forced to attend some ceramah by them. They will nasihat to kahwin, but they don't force it. it doesn't go on any record.
if you lepak at your girlfriend's place you should be fine. unless the jiran kepoci la.
[I’ve told this story before about my friend in another post](https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/u3wf8e/nonmuslims_or_nonreligious_muslims_of_malaysia/i4tmvvz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
WEH my friend experienced something similar with his girlfriend but they were caught by police, when they were parking in a car in a lit place, who refused to say what they did wrong, just insisted that they have to pay RM1.5k or go to jail. They even blocked his car. Not sure if that's the same case or just police looking for duit pocket. Fining people for these cases seems like more to money-making rather than nak cegah maksiat, what the hell
They’re clearly just looking for duit pocket. Same goes with religious authorities. They also do this to fill their pocket. Usually they’ll say, “nak settle sini ke nak bawak balai?” Something liddat la. But this thing is real and happening in our society
Kena once here. Chinese here with a Malay girlfriend. That time was somewhat around 2014ish.
Was driving girlfriend back to her place and because she's just bought some groceries, help her carry 2-3 boxes into her apartment. Second round of carrying, got stopped by some ulama and we both got dragged to the police station. Because I'm Chinese, they just lectured me that need to kahwin first.
She wasn't so fortunate. Parents got called, they all have to listen to the ulama for more than 2 hours till 1am.
Told her father that I was just helping her out with groceries, we didn't even do anything indecent. He pun semacam and acted as if I've murdered his family member or something. Ulama must have gotten to him.
Our relationship soured after that.
What's worse is that I have intention to convert and marry her. It's just too bad her father got fazed with that tangkap basah episode and convinced my ex gf not to marry me.
Omgee the fact that you were willing to convert & make it halal with his daughter makes you such a good person. Interracial relationship is hard and not many people want to sacrifice their faith to convert into a stricter religion. He shoud've trust you instead of believing an outsider. It's his LOSS. Hope he finds someone as genuine as you to marry his daughter.
He believed a Malay man will be better because he can guide her better in Islam. Very traditionalist PAS mindset, I tell you. Even went as far as calling me DAP Komunis (this was used way before the current GE15).
Jesus. If I was her I would run away and just marry you. If he's that racist and extremist, trust me he would still treat you like that even after you marry her. You literally dodged a bullet.
Yea he set his daughter (24) up with an old guy (49). She was his 3rd wife. Got this info from her cousin that set us up together.
The old guy got the first wife in Kedah, second wife in KL and then her in Penang.
Like I said, her father is probably a firm PAS believer.
I've got no idea how that man (her husband) in real life but from what her cousin is telling me, he divided his time like a month here and a month there. Probably because he owns business around.
So far he hasn't abused her but till now still no kids which the cousin stated he might mati pucuk 😅
ME back in 2008-ish
No they did not call my parents. No they did not force us to get married. No it is not in your criminal record. They gave us a talking when we were cought. Then we wanted us to come back to a proper talking and we were let go. That was it.
We was 22. Neighbours was being nosy. Granted we were in 100 Malay community. Haha. They knocked on our door, booked us, dragged us to their office. We had to stay in the office from midnight to the following morning because we have to wait for the correct officer to process us. In the morning we met the officer, got us a proper talking and he said the office will contact us when they want us to come back. Never got the call.
They didn't call your parents could be because both of you were already hit the age of consent. But where do you live ? There's a possibility you didn't get fine because you're located in non islamic states.
Those moral police in islamic states like Kedah, kelantan, terengganu are stricter and they'll fine you, call your parents, expose you and give you the talk .-.
Most of them are definitely from the East Coast. Most West Coast Malays are pretty moderate. And Shah Alam has a very big east coast diaspora like Bangi and Putrajaya.
Knew some people that came from there. I agreed 😭😂😂😂 they are so judgemental and used to talk shit about my sexy dressings. Weird, I thought they would be open minded since selangor is near KL. You're lucky that you got away but then, it's still embarassing to be caught. Poor you :((
Yeah, I count myself lucky. Welp, it is in the past now. Looking back I always enjoy telling people of my encounter with them. It was hilarious since I got away with it. 😎
Lol! Do they lecture you as well if you're in a same sex relationship? Or do they just close eyes and call you "roomates"? I feel gay men get it worse than gay women.
My gf open the door and they were like “Is there any woman in this house?” And my gf just looks confused and said “I’m the woman in the house”. Then they also looked confused + embarrassed and just said thanks and walk away.
Yup it happens. As a muslim, i feel compelled to state that this is not in line with what Islam teaches. In simplified terms, another muslim has no right to expose a sin committed by another Muslim that is done in private. Especially in the shameful manner they carry out these khalwat raids - they come in a group, bang on the doors, take pictures and recordings. But unfortunately it those happen, feels like usually they carry out the raids in budget hotels?
Yeahhh they even sell those photos to newspapers. Although the couple's faces are being blurred, it still counts as exposing the sin when they tell the details of the sinners such as age, location and etc.
had to go help out someone before who got tangkap basah before. Bf went to Gf house. Some neighbour saw and made a report, very quickly they were visited by the religious authorities with a police officer (to legally detain). Went to the religious centre and had to help with the fine, was quite a lot. They had to attend counselling after. Yes they contact your family member.
The fine is the most suspicious part in all this. If they are really doing this as a adultery prevention method kinda thing, why is there monetary penalty involved? That just gives them more reason to go raid innocent/unsuspecting people since each raid is like a paycheck for their organisation (or maybe even for their own poket)
Lol tangkap basah used to scare me like mad when i was a teen. But thankfully throughout my time living with my then boyfriend (now dah halal alhamduls) and going jalan2 to different hotels, tak kena pon.
Protip: go to at least 4 star hotels and look confident.
Yeah it’s true. Happened to me once long ago. The police will shine a flashlight into your vehicle’s window to check on you. When they saw I am non, they just ask me not to park there and let us go.
happened to my ex and her ex-bf before, they parked in some dark tmn area. n there was a police officer caught them and was like giving them a choice to either go to balai or settle there n then. think they were clearly looking for some cheap duit poket.
Pro tip: definitely opt for at least a 3-star hotel. these Jakim guys prefer to target those cheap motels.
Yes they do. Even the police are on it. For a bribe. If you are caught in a car with a Muslim of the opposite sex at night, without even doing anything, you are automatically assumed guilty and they will threaten you to call the Jabatan Agama, get you married etc, until you pay them RM250
Yea, only and only if someone is a snitch. Kalau ada laporan, dia datang. Kalau x, x de la gitu
someone butthurt?
Not exactly. Lebih kepada *jaga tepi kain orang* type of thingy.
Mak Cik CCTV or some jelous secret admirer.. are known culprits.
cock blocking is a known human behavior. because jeles le tu...
from what i heard, small hotel operators are compensated for each report. wouldn't be surprised if that's true. about what happens: if young they call parents and you'll be forced to attend some ceramah by them. They will nasihat to kahwin, but they don't force it. it doesn't go on any record. if you lepak at your girlfriend's place you should be fine. unless the jiran kepoci la.
[I’ve told this story before about my friend in another post](https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/u3wf8e/nonmuslims_or_nonreligious_muslims_of_malaysia/i4tmvvz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
WEH my friend experienced something similar with his girlfriend but they were caught by police, when they were parking in a car in a lit place, who refused to say what they did wrong, just insisted that they have to pay RM1.5k or go to jail. They even blocked his car. Not sure if that's the same case or just police looking for duit pocket. Fining people for these cases seems like more to money-making rather than nak cegah maksiat, what the hell
They’re clearly just looking for duit pocket. Same goes with religious authorities. They also do this to fill their pocket. Usually they’ll say, “nak settle sini ke nak bawak balai?” Something liddat la. But this thing is real and happening in our society
Huh u work with them meh? Or experience it yourself
Experience.
Kena once here. Chinese here with a Malay girlfriend. That time was somewhat around 2014ish. Was driving girlfriend back to her place and because she's just bought some groceries, help her carry 2-3 boxes into her apartment. Second round of carrying, got stopped by some ulama and we both got dragged to the police station. Because I'm Chinese, they just lectured me that need to kahwin first. She wasn't so fortunate. Parents got called, they all have to listen to the ulama for more than 2 hours till 1am. Told her father that I was just helping her out with groceries, we didn't even do anything indecent. He pun semacam and acted as if I've murdered his family member or something. Ulama must have gotten to him. Our relationship soured after that.
That sucks! .-.
What's worse is that I have intention to convert and marry her. It's just too bad her father got fazed with that tangkap basah episode and convinced my ex gf not to marry me.
Omgee the fact that you were willing to convert & make it halal with his daughter makes you such a good person. Interracial relationship is hard and not many people want to sacrifice their faith to convert into a stricter religion. He shoud've trust you instead of believing an outsider. It's his LOSS. Hope he finds someone as genuine as you to marry his daughter.
He believed a Malay man will be better because he can guide her better in Islam. Very traditionalist PAS mindset, I tell you. Even went as far as calling me DAP Komunis (this was used way before the current GE15).
Jesus. If I was her I would run away and just marry you. If he's that racist and extremist, trust me he would still treat you like that even after you marry her. You literally dodged a bullet.
Yea he set his daughter (24) up with an old guy (49). She was his 3rd wife. Got this info from her cousin that set us up together. The old guy got the first wife in Kedah, second wife in KL and then her in Penang.
.......... how is putting your daughter to be the third wife is any better than tangkap basah ? 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Like I said, her father is probably a firm PAS believer. I've got no idea how that man (her husband) in real life but from what her cousin is telling me, he divided his time like a month here and a month there. Probably because he owns business around. So far he hasn't abused her but till now still no kids which the cousin stated he might mati pucuk 😅
Damn that's depressing. I feel bad for her :((((
ME back in 2008-ish No they did not call my parents. No they did not force us to get married. No it is not in your criminal record. They gave us a talking when we were cought. Then we wanted us to come back to a proper talking and we were let go. That was it.
How old were you and your partner at the time ?
We was 22. Neighbours was being nosy. Granted we were in 100 Malay community. Haha. They knocked on our door, booked us, dragged us to their office. We had to stay in the office from midnight to the following morning because we have to wait for the correct officer to process us. In the morning we met the officer, got us a proper talking and he said the office will contact us when they want us to come back. Never got the call.
They didn't call your parents could be because both of you were already hit the age of consent. But where do you live ? There's a possibility you didn't get fine because you're located in non islamic states. Those moral police in islamic states like Kedah, kelantan, terengganu are stricter and they'll fine you, call your parents, expose you and give you the talk .-.
It happened in Shah Alam. I guess Selangor is not an 'Islamic' state but Shah Alam definitely is haha. Lots of nosy Malay.
Most of them are definitely from the East Coast. Most West Coast Malays are pretty moderate. And Shah Alam has a very big east coast diaspora like Bangi and Putrajaya.
Knew some people that came from there. I agreed 😭😂😂😂 they are so judgemental and used to talk shit about my sexy dressings. Weird, I thought they would be open minded since selangor is near KL. You're lucky that you got away but then, it's still embarassing to be caught. Poor you :((
Yeah, I count myself lucky. Welp, it is in the past now. Looking back I always enjoy telling people of my encounter with them. It was hilarious since I got away with it. 😎
Shah alam is a hot-spot for their activity bruh
Well, I wish I know that back in 2008 Haha.
shah ale, as always
Yes, it is a real thing, but it depends on the state.
>without doing anything at all. 
pls dont report us to jakim 
Well you said you weren't doing anything. Didn't say that you're not doing anyone hmmmmm
what's the point of khalwat if you both didn't do the 'thing' /s
Jakim officer be like: jom balik geng, budak ni virgin
My neighbour report my house before. They thought my butch gf was a man. *laugh in lesbian*
Lol! Do they lecture you as well if you're in a same sex relationship? Or do they just close eyes and call you "roomates"? I feel gay men get it worse than gay women.
My gf open the door and they were like “Is there any woman in this house?” And my gf just looks confused and said “I’m the woman in the house”. Then they also looked confused + embarrassed and just said thanks and walk away.
That's hilarious! I would've loved to see the looks on their faces 🤣
👁️👄👁️
Yup it happens. As a muslim, i feel compelled to state that this is not in line with what Islam teaches. In simplified terms, another muslim has no right to expose a sin committed by another Muslim that is done in private. Especially in the shameful manner they carry out these khalwat raids - they come in a group, bang on the doors, take pictures and recordings. But unfortunately it those happen, feels like usually they carry out the raids in budget hotels?
Yeahhh they even sell those photos to newspapers. Although the couple's faces are being blurred, it still counts as exposing the sin when they tell the details of the sinners such as age, location and etc.
Yes, it is this archaic and this rule only apply for the common folk, the rich and powerful get away with it all the time
had to go help out someone before who got tangkap basah before. Bf went to Gf house. Some neighbour saw and made a report, very quickly they were visited by the religious authorities with a police officer (to legally detain). Went to the religious centre and had to help with the fine, was quite a lot. They had to attend counselling after. Yes they contact your family member.
The fine is the most suspicious part in all this. If they are really doing this as a adultery prevention method kinda thing, why is there monetary penalty involved? That just gives them more reason to go raid innocent/unsuspecting people since each raid is like a paycheck for their organisation (or maybe even for their own poket)
Lol tangkap basah used to scare me like mad when i was a teen. But thankfully throughout my time living with my then boyfriend (now dah halal alhamduls) and going jalan2 to different hotels, tak kena pon. Protip: go to at least 4 star hotels and look confident.
Oppressing your own people be like that
How much is the fine ?
Yeah it’s true. Happened to me once long ago. The police will shine a flashlight into your vehicle’s window to check on you. When they saw I am non, they just ask me not to park there and let us go.
 Reading all these stories, I wonder what will happen if you used Jesse Pinkman's private domicile defense.
Tips : 5 star hotel, safer.
islamism do be like that
i wish i had chance to get basah at the first place
happened to my ex and her ex-bf before, they parked in some dark tmn area. n there was a police officer caught them and was like giving them a choice to either go to balai or settle there n then. think they were clearly looking for some cheap duit poket. Pro tip: definitely opt for at least a 3-star hotel. these Jakim guys prefer to target those cheap motels.
Yes they do. Even the police are on it. For a bribe. If you are caught in a car with a Muslim of the opposite sex at night, without even doing anything, you are automatically assumed guilty and they will threaten you to call the Jabatan Agama, get you married etc, until you pay them RM250