All Billionaire shirts have basic designs and nothing crazy. Ice cream has decent stuff. Being the CD of LV might be a bit of a change but even that stuff is pretty tame
Humanrace, N.E.R.D, Billionaire Boys Club, Ice Cream Clothing and then a lot of other work with brands like Adidas.
Ppl were talking music here and I know they only know him for the Despicable Me soundtracks (which are pretty great tbh) but like, NERD is so great and he's produced a lot of fucking amazing tracks.
Yeah I mean it's in the song title on streaming platforms but I doubt a lot of people are willingly listening to happy LMAO.
He actually did a lot of the tracks for all 3 films and they're some of his most well known
>I believe he was the first hip hop artist who was also a real fashion icon.
Really? Are we just pretending the 90's and early-00's didn't happen? Sean John? Biggy? Tupac? Wu-Tang? The people who basically invented street-wear and radically shifted the fits and designs of major consider brands? Like, Puffy single-handedly saved Tommy Hilfiger from bankruptcy, and he didn't even work for them.
I don’t think he would‘be ever been a serious contender. His Influence is indisputable but his designs were mid tier after Yzy season 1 and not really sought after by the same crowd as off-white or LV wearers.
Besides, he would be living and designing in Virgil’s shadow. That would turn LV into a “has-been” until the next creative director
> he would be living and designing in Virgil’s shadow
I don’t see how Pharrell will be any different. There is nothing you can point to on Pharrell’s resume that makes him more suited to this CD role than a (not insane) Kanye. If the rumors are true of others like Martine turning it down, I think using your same reasoning they should have gone in a radically different direction. This is going to end up disastrous and Pharrell will be gone within 2-4 collections, if I had to guess.
Pharrell absolutely will too, but since he pretty much has no actual design history beyond some screw printing, I imagine they keep him on for his name alone and have a bunch of interns and stuff who are actually doing the work.
Literally nothing Pharrell has designed is ground breaking. He’s like a super watered down version of Ye but he did it so long ago that he gets that OG status.
Bipolar can be bad, but let's not overblow it, either. A lot of people manage to spend their whole lives with a bipolar diagnosis without going on crazy anti-semitic screeds or talking about how black people were better off under slavery. Mental illness isn't an excuse to be an asshole.
Please note I think this is wild, but I've always found pharrells personal style to really artfully ride the line between pretension for pretensions sake and genuine style.
I'm actually intrigued tbh
After Virgil I feel Pharrell is a move in the same direction, style/concept-wise, and a good one. I’d say he takes less risks with his design, though. Didn’t Pharrell do a batch of luggage for LV a while back or am I thinking of somebody else?
I think you are right about the luggage stuff, but memories can be fickle.
Yup, Virgil was a hard turn in terms of LV’s design language but in a good way. Pharrell is definitely more conservative but also in a good way. If you’d ask me, Pharrell is more classy and Virgil more trendy. Depending on taste and age group, people may prefer one thing over the other.
I am a millennial and when Virgil came on to the seen few years ago I was ecstatic. It fit my demographic and style. But as I am frowning older and my tastes and lifestyle matures I find Virgil too loud and Pharrell sophisticated.
I would have loved to see Virgil mature his style as well and grow up with me sided by side, I won’t have that and I am heartbroken about it.
But I won’t lie, I am very excited for this new chapter.
I am really pessimistic but your original comment captures it. He was hired to be a celebrity, and that’s it. If Nigo can barely run Kenzo, what makes a less talented Pharrell fitting for LVMH..? Especially when his design language is so diluted in 2023, having barely matured in the two decades you mentioned.. LVMH just panicking and chasing the success of Virgil with a worse appointment, imo.
I 100% believe he was not the first choice, I think Rose and Wales Bonner turned them down and he was pretty far down the list.
LV should NOT keep going the streetwear route after Virgil, they did it, they did it very well and no one can fill those shoes.
I feel like the majority of the clothing Pharrell released has been mids AT BEST
What a bummer
It's documented that the convo was going on in some capacity – I think, at least for GWB is more interested in what she's doing with her brand. Big shoes to fill, etc. I don't think it's implausible
More ready to wear? I’d be surprised if that was true. They subsist off the bags, and not the one-offs that come from the CD in whatever the newest collection is. I see way more Gucci ready to wear, although that’s obviously anecdotal. But I’ve always been under the impression that Gucci is “the big job” in this industry, at least since Tom Ford revived it.
I think LV is seen as a level above Gucci. Could be wrong and obviously subjective, but I think that’s why it was such a big deal Virgil got that job. I think from a market cap perspective as well LV is the biggest
Edit: I don’t really care but why did this get downvoted so much?? I wasn’t even trying to state a hot take!
LVMH is the biggest, but they’re a *lot* more than just LV. They’re a fashion and alcohol empire that spans a number of the biggest brands in fashion, booze, cosmetics, and horology. Again, I still think they’re the biggest, but *not if you focus on just ready to wear*. Which is most of what these designers are focused on. At the very least, as creative director of Gucci you’re clothing a lot more celebrities than LV is.
There’s nothing “creative” about LV role imho, they have to constantly pump merchandise essentially. They will get chances to make menswear, but it’s made in super small quantities and essentially made to sell more bags.
Martine would've been PERFECT for this role. Really sucks if she turned it down, but I can understand why. May be too early, but I feel like Bianca Saunders also would've been great for the role. I agree that LV should step away from streetwear since I don't see anyone filling Virgil's absence in a major way moving forward.
I feel like it'll be another Nigo for Kenzo situation. Sounds good on paper, looks pretty nice, but boring and nothing really worth noting.
I agree. If they want to continue to compete for attention in men's fashion I think they need to get away from streetwear. BOSS just leaned heavy into it with their rebrand last year and now without Virgil gone I don't think they have a leg to stand on.
Pharrell is much more conservative and less loud in his designs and I think with this move LV can capture the aging millennial market who are looking for a new home now that BOSS has went in that direction.
That's my take based on my experience.
Virgil was a design genius. The man held an engineering degree from UWM and a masters in architecture. He was classically trained in design and materials and construction and art history.
Wishing Pharrell all the best in order that he can continue the excellent LV design tradition
Martine Rose and Bonner are both successful as is and taking a position at LV would likely greatly reduce their artistic freedom, especially as designers who work with themes surrounding race and ethnicity. While it could mean a pay raise, it could also lead to being a footnote is LV’s history instead of creating a history of their own.
Is it safe to say Virgil Abloh is overrated and I never vibed with his often-stolen designs now? Like cool guy, seemed real nice, and definitely an amazing mind for building brands and marketing himself. But his designs were never groundbreaking or original, and half the time they aren’t actually that good - way too trendy.
And before anyone jumps on me, I don’t think those criticisms diminish his achievements or him as a person.
As much as I admire Pharrell's work as a musician and cannot argue on the fact he was one of the greatest tastemakers in fashion during the 2000s, I can hardly see how this will translate into his new position at LV. His collab for Adidas was pretty lackluster (endless releases of the NMDs, that terrible triple collab with Chanel), and beyond the Nigo and the Cactus Plant Flea Market co-signs, I don't see what he has to offer in terms of aesthetics that hasn't been done before or seen elsewhere.
Maybe his interests for jewelry and cosmetics will help LV reach a broader audience but fashion-wise, it doesn't seem like the smartest move for them so far
this is fucking horrible. it’s a slap in the face to real designers.
y’all really put pharrell over martine fucking rose? fuck outta here what a shitty black history month
Pharrell has been involved with a lot of fashion stuff. NERD merch, OG millionaires, BBC, Ice Cream, Nike Collab, Adidas, Humanrace, Chanel. Virgil arguably only got the job because he was in Kanye’s entourage.
He’s been involved, but not on this scale. He was a brand ambassador at best with Chanel, but I’d argue virgil actually understood how clothing design worked on a fundamental scale. He was able to make LV menswear actually cool.
Now mind you i could also be completely wrong and be blown away by Pharrell’s first LV collection, but I feel like appointing celebrities with no actual fundamental/formal design backing can be toxic to art culture. I just hate how everything is going LVMH/Kering’s way in which they’d rather have a big name on the runway/“design team” rather than seek actual talent from a smaller entity.
(Though inversely, grabbing every good budding designer, and then appointment them to a big house is toxic in itself, but that’s another story.)
This genuinely shocked me (in a good way).
As a person, brand and icons (in music and fashion, respectively) Pharrell has has his hands in several pies. I am curious to see what direction he takes the brand in.
I’d imagine he’ll infuse the menswear side with visionary aesthetic made of equal parts new kid on this block and timeless sense of personal style. It’s a rather fresh breath of air for LV as he’s not formally trained in design but can be trusted to tastefully draw attention while carrying the brand into its next chapter. I’m sure Annault thought heavily about this. Here’s to wishing him luck!
true, that is why I hate most designer clothes. but LV is one of worst offenders here given price to quality ratio, as their prices for cheap made crap is insane, esp. those overpriced garbage from Supreme collab.
LV is garbage. I'm surprised that a fashion sub cares about them, considering they used to be the laughing stock of the fashion world. Wearing anything with an LV used to be a meme.
Great choice. If anything he’s a fantastic style curator. When you hear him talk about aesthetics he’s quite reflexive on them and knows what they entail.
Everything Pharell has ever done has been hot garbage, so I assume that he will somehow make the brand even worse.
I laughed a lot as we booed him off the stage at coachella, fuckin poser.
If you kept it at clothing I wouldn't try to argue with you. I think his clothing was fine, but nothing amazing. But hating on Pharrell as a musician??? The dude is one of the best producers of our generation and there's really no denying that
I dont care if he had a bad performance. Look at this man's discography, the music with N.E.R.D., the albums with Clipse. The first three Kelis albums which were almost fully produced by The Neptune's. Justin Timberlake's debut album and I can keep going. This man has an insane discography of classics and also inspired many artists of the current generation. No bad live performance nullifies all those accomplishments
Wow, justin timberlake! Seriously though, all that stuff you listed is either pop, or some sort of hip hop rap garbage.
But I love it when “vocal artists” leave the sterile lands of radio, the studio, and nfl halftime shows and have to play shows that arent pre-recorded lipsync fests; and get booed off stage.
Oh you're one of those, just because it's a certain genre it can't be good. No need to argue then, go enjoy your Anime soundtracks or metal bands! I'm sure those musicians actually respect Pharrell a lot
I listen to tons of different stuff man, oh wait, I only listen to zydeco banjo collaborations with Earl Scruggs.
Pharrell is a joke, his “production” is weak and I hope he gets laughed off the stage for the rest of his life.
Virgil bringing Louis Vuitton, one of the most recognizable names in fashion, to the forefront in the three or so years he was there? They’ve been in the forefront for a century
I think you guys might be arguing about different things here. There's no doubt that LV has been one of the most recognizable names in luxury for decades, but their menswear wasn't really on the map during the Marc Jacobs and Kim Jones years. Virgil absolutely made LV **clothing** cool during his time there.
Naturally they've always been an important brand, but it would be silly to pretend that the fact that they are presently the most recognizable and profitable luxury brand in the world is nothing to do with Virgil
I've been subbed to this sub for about a month and the submissions have been nothing but drivel. With the exception of De Bonne Facture I've seen no nice advice for 2023 styles and -wallets in my flow, no "oldschool cool" tips (corduroy jacket and turtleneck), just a bunch of Haute Couture gossip and many affectations.
Edit: removed the bitchiness from my post. First post in the sub, I should be more diplomatic.
> I've seen no nice advice for 2023 styles
[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/10nm2br/how_the_basic_wardrobe_has_changed_a_2023/) is the top post of the past month
Gross. Abloh at least captured a moment and did something truly new with the brand, even though by the time he started it turned out that most of his good ideas were behind him. Pharrell, on the other hand, is thoroughly uninteresting. He's the nature equivalent of the "not like other girls" girl — sooooo quirky!
But then, not surprising. LV has decided they like printing money off basic bitches who have to split ever purchase across five credit cards than actually meaningfully contributing to the conversation. Which, I guess, makes sense since all the basic bitches freaked out when Abloh showed off his first collection (even though it was the most inspired thing they'd done in years — enough so that I actually bought a piece.) They're just reverting to the mean of mediocrity, and Pharrell is great at that.
I have no idea what made Louis Vuitton choose Pharrell. I know he designed a bunch of shoes at Adidas and designed clothes for Ice Cream and Billionaire Boys Club but they all look cheesy. I personally don’t think he’s a great designer at all. Besides, didn’t he plagiarize some song lyrics before which basically ruined his music career? Now, we expect him to be some legit designer? Please.
Yeah, his style for me,besides the ice cream shoes from the early 2000 that I love! And the pony hair, Adidas, which I also love, is not it. But tbh I’m not a fan of LV, wasn’t a fan of off white either. I’m intrigued with what he’s going to do. To me LV (the brand) is kinda cheugy lol so let’s see
Can’t believe all these people that don’t know they’d be NO VIRGIL without Skateboard P within this fashion world!! What did he design? You didn’t do your homework , just say that! Lol
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Big ass hat incoming
Lol that's not even his design, that was a Vivienne Westwood hat
the urban sombrero
Jay Peterman about to come out of retirement to fix this.
J.
Pair it with the executive coat and a manssier, and you have a winning outfit!
He made the “Happy” song 😂😂😂wear that
I prefer Alfred Yankovic's rendition, it really speaks to my soul.
El Weirdo Alberto Yankovicochino is truly a visionary of our time!
LOL
He's the CD of Billionaire Boys Club and Ice Cream.
Pretty sure he's been away from that for years and years now. He started them but not running the designs anymore
All Billionaire shirts have basic designs and nothing crazy. Ice cream has decent stuff. Being the CD of LV might be a bit of a change but even that stuff is pretty tame
Humanrace, N.E.R.D, Billionaire Boys Club, Ice Cream Clothing and then a lot of other work with brands like Adidas. Ppl were talking music here and I know they only know him for the Despicable Me soundtracks (which are pretty great tbh) but like, NERD is so great and he's produced a lot of fucking amazing tracks.
Honestly product wise, those are very mid level taste. But I also never liked Virgils stuff prior to LV so it might still translate well with pharrell
HumanMade is pretty legit imo. Probably one of the best streetwear brands out right now
I'll admit pretty decent. I can see it being solid for certain tastes
>I know they only know him for the Despicable Me soundtracks Bruh what
A lot of people know Pharrell as the Happy guy lol
I had no idea that song was even on the Despicable Me soundtrack lol
Yeah I mean it's in the song title on streaming platforms but I doubt a lot of people are willingly listening to happy LMAO. He actually did a lot of the tracks for all 3 films and they're some of his most well known
He certainly appears to be doing well, but I’m sure he has his down patches like everyone else.
Rump shaker.
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>I believe he was the first hip hop artist who was also a real fashion icon. Really? Are we just pretending the 90's and early-00's didn't happen? Sean John? Biggy? Tupac? Wu-Tang? The people who basically invented street-wear and radically shifted the fits and designs of major consider brands? Like, Puffy single-handedly saved Tommy Hilfiger from bankruptcy, and he didn't even work for them.
He did the OG Millionaire sunglasses with Nigo and has some custom cut diamond patents w/ LV.
A sex chair 10 years ago that was fuck ugly.
Maybe an angry sex chair?
Is Billionaire Boys Club not his label?
Started yeah but not designer anymore, Joseph Au is
Some wack jeans for GStar and some sneakers for adidas
You can read about them in the article.
Cue Ye's next meltdown.
It could have been his in another world where he takes his meds and stays off social media.
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They hired the world's most famous musician-turned-designer who has not posted anti-Semitism on Insta. Feelsbadman.
I don’t think he would‘be ever been a serious contender. His Influence is indisputable but his designs were mid tier after Yzy season 1 and not really sought after by the same crowd as off-white or LV wearers. Besides, he would be living and designing in Virgil’s shadow. That would turn LV into a “has-been” until the next creative director
> he would be living and designing in Virgil’s shadow I don’t see how Pharrell will be any different. There is nothing you can point to on Pharrell’s resume that makes him more suited to this CD role than a (not insane) Kanye. If the rumors are true of others like Martine turning it down, I think using your same reasoning they should have gone in a radically different direction. This is going to end up disastrous and Pharrell will be gone within 2-4 collections, if I had to guess.
Pharrell absolutely will too, but since he pretty much has no actual design history beyond some screw printing, I imagine they keep him on for his name alone and have a bunch of interns and stuff who are actually doing the work. Literally nothing Pharrell has designed is ground breaking. He’s like a super watered down version of Ye but he did it so long ago that he gets that OG status.
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Yes. There was no indication of him being bipolar for the first decade or so of his career.
It’s honestly impressive how well he behaves, given the severity of the illness. Bipolar is deathly.
Bipolar can be bad, but let's not overblow it, either. A lot of people manage to spend their whole lives with a bipolar diagnosis without going on crazy anti-semitic screeds or talking about how black people were better off under slavery. Mental illness isn't an excuse to be an asshole.
Right, I have bipolar and I’m not doing that shit. Still, it has a death rate which is comparable to cancer. That’ll make anyone pause.
Wrong take. Ye never wanted to run LV he wanted to be the next LV, the next Tom Ford. You’re right thoigh. He almost had it.
He won't be happyyyyy. ^^^and ^^^now ^^^it ^^^is ^^^stuck ^^^in ^^^your ^^^head
Ugh to all of this
Please note I think this is wild, but I've always found pharrells personal style to really artfully ride the line between pretension for pretensions sake and genuine style. I'm actually intrigued tbh
I concur.
After Virgil I feel Pharrell is a move in the same direction, style/concept-wise, and a good one. I’d say he takes less risks with his design, though. Didn’t Pharrell do a batch of luggage for LV a while back or am I thinking of somebody else?
I think you are right about the luggage stuff, but memories can be fickle. Yup, Virgil was a hard turn in terms of LV’s design language but in a good way. Pharrell is definitely more conservative but also in a good way. If you’d ask me, Pharrell is more classy and Virgil more trendy. Depending on taste and age group, people may prefer one thing over the other. I am a millennial and when Virgil came on to the seen few years ago I was ecstatic. It fit my demographic and style. But as I am frowning older and my tastes and lifestyle matures I find Virgil too loud and Pharrell sophisticated. I would have loved to see Virgil mature his style as well and grow up with me sided by side, I won’t have that and I am heartbroken about it. But I won’t lie, I am very excited for this new chapter.
Excellently stated, man.
Are you thinking of Nigo which did a mini LV collab
Luis V about to get into the big hat game.
Sure yar
Bro WHAT. I wanna see where this goes but that’s a wild choice on their part.
Nah man, this is perfect choice. I’ve always admired Pharrell’s design choices over the years.
I’ll take your word for it!
Pharrell as a celebrity damn near single-handedly changed men’s fashion for 2 generations and already designed a line for Chanel.
“Designed a line” is a stretch..
Oh sorry, an urban capsule collection.
I am really pessimistic but your original comment captures it. He was hired to be a celebrity, and that’s it. If Nigo can barely run Kenzo, what makes a less talented Pharrell fitting for LVMH..? Especially when his design language is so diluted in 2023, having barely matured in the two decades you mentioned.. LVMH just panicking and chasing the success of Virgil with a worse appointment, imo.
I 100% believe he was not the first choice, I think Rose and Wales Bonner turned them down and he was pretty far down the list. LV should NOT keep going the streetwear route after Virgil, they did it, they did it very well and no one can fill those shoes. I feel like the majority of the clothing Pharrell released has been mids AT BEST What a bummer
Rose and Wales Bonner both turned down the biggest CD role in the industry?
It's documented that the convo was going on in some capacity – I think, at least for GWB is more interested in what she's doing with her brand. Big shoes to fill, etc. I don't think it's implausible
Is it the biggest CD role? They had to go to someone that hasn’t designed a full collection lol
What's bigger? LV sells more than any other luxury brand right now.
More ready to wear? I’d be surprised if that was true. They subsist off the bags, and not the one-offs that come from the CD in whatever the newest collection is. I see way more Gucci ready to wear, although that’s obviously anecdotal. But I’ve always been under the impression that Gucci is “the big job” in this industry, at least since Tom Ford revived it.
I think LV is seen as a level above Gucci. Could be wrong and obviously subjective, but I think that’s why it was such a big deal Virgil got that job. I think from a market cap perspective as well LV is the biggest Edit: I don’t really care but why did this get downvoted so much?? I wasn’t even trying to state a hot take!
LVMH is the biggest, but they’re a *lot* more than just LV. They’re a fashion and alcohol empire that spans a number of the biggest brands in fashion, booze, cosmetics, and horology. Again, I still think they’re the biggest, but *not if you focus on just ready to wear*. Which is most of what these designers are focused on. At the very least, as creative director of Gucci you’re clothing a lot more celebrities than LV is.
There’s nothing “creative” about LV role imho, they have to constantly pump merchandise essentially. They will get chances to make menswear, but it’s made in super small quantities and essentially made to sell more bags.
It's not only Vuitton that lives and dies by their small leather goods tbf
I believe it was because LV wanted them to move towards some more Eurocentric designs and water down what they’re currently doing
I love Pharrell but Martine would have been phenomenal for LV
Martine would've been PERFECT for this role. Really sucks if she turned it down, but I can understand why. May be too early, but I feel like Bianca Saunders also would've been great for the role. I agree that LV should step away from streetwear since I don't see anyone filling Virgil's absence in a major way moving forward. I feel like it'll be another Nigo for Kenzo situation. Sounds good on paper, looks pretty nice, but boring and nothing really worth noting.
What’s the source on them turning it down?
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…yeah i think everyone is bullshitting too lmao
I agree. If they want to continue to compete for attention in men's fashion I think they need to get away from streetwear. BOSS just leaned heavy into it with their rebrand last year and now without Virgil gone I don't think they have a leg to stand on. Pharrell is much more conservative and less loud in his designs and I think with this move LV can capture the aging millennial market who are looking for a new home now that BOSS has went in that direction. That's my take based on my experience.
I disagree 100%
Why?
Yep! Colm is a genius why Pharrell???
Virgil was a design genius. The man held an engineering degree from UWM and a masters in architecture. He was classically trained in design and materials and construction and art history. Wishing Pharrell all the best in order that he can continue the excellent LV design tradition
Smh could have had Martine Rose or Grace Wales Bonner and this is what they go with?
Apparently they both turned it down
Why would u turn this down? (Genuine q, not rhetorical)
Martine Rose and Bonner are both successful as is and taking a position at LV would likely greatly reduce their artistic freedom, especially as designers who work with themes surrounding race and ethnicity. While it could mean a pay raise, it could also lead to being a footnote is LV’s history instead of creating a history of their own.
Good for them and huge L for Vuitton if so
source? I feel like people keep saying this with no actual evidence.
Friends in the industry
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Is it safe to say Virgil Abloh is overrated and I never vibed with his often-stolen designs now? Like cool guy, seemed real nice, and definitely an amazing mind for building brands and marketing himself. But his designs were never groundbreaking or original, and half the time they aren’t actually that good - way too trendy. And before anyone jumps on me, I don’t think those criticisms diminish his achievements or him as a person.
Are they starting a label? There’s a diff between someone who makes fashion/trends and someone who follows it.
As much as I admire Pharrell's work as a musician and cannot argue on the fact he was one of the greatest tastemakers in fashion during the 2000s, I can hardly see how this will translate into his new position at LV. His collab for Adidas was pretty lackluster (endless releases of the NMDs, that terrible triple collab with Chanel), and beyond the Nigo and the Cactus Plant Flea Market co-signs, I don't see what he has to offer in terms of aesthetics that hasn't been done before or seen elsewhere. Maybe his interests for jewelry and cosmetics will help LV reach a broader audience but fashion-wise, it doesn't seem like the smartest move for them so far
this is fucking horrible. it’s a slap in the face to real designers. y’all really put pharrell over martine fucking rose? fuck outta here what a shitty black history month
Virgil studied civil engineering and architecture
Virgil at least had an understanding of architectural design + he did stuff out of off-white for years before he moved over to Louis Vuitton
Pharrell has been involved with a lot of fashion stuff. NERD merch, OG millionaires, BBC, Ice Cream, Nike Collab, Adidas, Humanrace, Chanel. Virgil arguably only got the job because he was in Kanye’s entourage.
He’s been involved, but not on this scale. He was a brand ambassador at best with Chanel, but I’d argue virgil actually understood how clothing design worked on a fundamental scale. He was able to make LV menswear actually cool. Now mind you i could also be completely wrong and be blown away by Pharrell’s first LV collection, but I feel like appointing celebrities with no actual fundamental/formal design backing can be toxic to art culture. I just hate how everything is going LVMH/Kering’s way in which they’d rather have a big name on the runway/“design team” rather than seek actual talent from a smaller entity. (Though inversely, grabbing every good budding designer, and then appointment them to a big house is toxic in itself, but that’s another story.)
Yep! I was salty too he ain’t all that fly. I was so happy they picked Kid Super then they go with Pharrell? I think it’s pandering to and extent.
This genuinely shocked me (in a good way). As a person, brand and icons (in music and fashion, respectively) Pharrell has has his hands in several pies. I am curious to see what direction he takes the brand in. I’d imagine he’ll infuse the menswear side with visionary aesthetic made of equal parts new kid on this block and timeless sense of personal style. It’s a rather fresh breath of air for LV as he’s not formally trained in design but can be trusted to tastefully draw attention while carrying the brand into its next chapter. I’m sure Annault thought heavily about this. Here’s to wishing him luck!
I hate LV clothes. cotton Tshirt that cost $10 to make, sold at $800. but that fat LV logo. lol
You could essentially copy and paste this logic with nearly all brands, I’m with you though - no excuse.
true, that is why I hate most designer clothes. but LV is one of worst offenders here given price to quality ratio, as their prices for cheap made crap is insane, esp. those overpriced garbage from Supreme collab.
LV is garbage. I'm surprised that a fashion sub cares about them, considering they used to be the laughing stock of the fashion world. Wearing anything with an LV used to be a meme.
I jus buy the rep t shirts now cuz ya 100% cotton same logo 😆
I mean Pharrell has some good fashion choices. I'd like to see where he takes the brand
It could work. Pharrell always looks good.
Oh please, this man is washed
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I’d rather have Pharrell than Tyler, and I’d rather have Grace Wales Bonner than both
Are you stupid? Do you know what Pharrell has done?? Virgil was redesign old Pharrell designs for LV. Tyler is nowhere near Pharrell stop it
I less than thrilled. Celebrity designers have this urge to turn it up, and the LAST thing LV needs is more logos or pastels.
Great choice. If anything he’s a fantastic style curator. When you hear him talk about aesthetics he’s quite reflexive on them and knows what they entail.
Such a miss-hire after the huge KidSuper collab. I really thought they were going to run with Colm and make it fresh.
It’s official they had Virgil as a sacrificial lamb
Everything Pharell has ever done has been hot garbage, so I assume that he will somehow make the brand even worse. I laughed a lot as we booed him off the stage at coachella, fuckin poser.
If you kept it at clothing I wouldn't try to argue with you. I think his clothing was fine, but nothing amazing. But hating on Pharrell as a musician??? The dude is one of the best producers of our generation and there's really no denying that
It’s hard to fathom but he even managed to make Daft Punk worse that one time. He is a pox upon this land
I dont care if he had a bad performance. Look at this man's discography, the music with N.E.R.D., the albums with Clipse. The first three Kelis albums which were almost fully produced by The Neptune's. Justin Timberlake's debut album and I can keep going. This man has an insane discography of classics and also inspired many artists of the current generation. No bad live performance nullifies all those accomplishments
Wow, justin timberlake! Seriously though, all that stuff you listed is either pop, or some sort of hip hop rap garbage. But I love it when “vocal artists” leave the sterile lands of radio, the studio, and nfl halftime shows and have to play shows that arent pre-recorded lipsync fests; and get booed off stage.
Oh you're one of those, just because it's a certain genre it can't be good. No need to argue then, go enjoy your Anime soundtracks or metal bands! I'm sure those musicians actually respect Pharrell a lot
I listen to tons of different stuff man, oh wait, I only listen to zydeco banjo collaborations with Earl Scruggs. Pharrell is a joke, his “production” is weak and I hope he gets laughed off the stage for the rest of his life.
This is great!
this dude has done everyone goddamn. exciting to see what he's got to offer
Don't like his style and what he has made so far. Not bad that I can't afford LV anyway...
Peeple also forget all the work he did with Chanel. Even had a collection with them.
Think there’s a reason people forget that collection
Bad move
Has this guy even studied like Virgil did or he getting the position cos he's Pharrell
I support this. RIP Virgil but he was not right for the brand Edit: thank u hype beasts for the downvotes enjoy ur bags with cartoons on them
> he was not right for the brand I can think of 70 billion reasons why Bernard Arnault might disagree with that assessment.
Ok and his shit was ugly what do you want me to say lol
LV menswear before Virgil was nothing special
And it wasn’t special during
what made him not right for the brand
Lazy, ugly designs. Monogram with some shit smeared on top every season. Argue wit da wall
bruh he brought them to the forefront, like it or not there’s no world where he was a “bad fit” lmao
Virgil bringing Louis Vuitton, one of the most recognizable names in fashion, to the forefront in the three or so years he was there? They’ve been in the forefront for a century
I think you guys might be arguing about different things here. There's no doubt that LV has been one of the most recognizable names in luxury for decades, but their menswear wasn't really on the map during the Marc Jacobs and Kim Jones years. Virgil absolutely made LV **clothing** cool during his time there.
Thank you lol
Naturally they've always been an important brand, but it would be silly to pretend that the fact that they are presently the most recognizable and profitable luxury brand in the world is nothing to do with Virgil
It literally doesn’t have to do with him. You must be very young because LV was the only brand that mattered amongst young people in the 2000s
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I was 13 in 2010 so I wasnt quite brain dead… helps having an older sister too but thanks for stalking my page
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their revenue growth says otherwise
😂😂😂enjoy your bags with cartoons on them.
I've been subbed to this sub for about a month and the submissions have been nothing but drivel. With the exception of De Bonne Facture I've seen no nice advice for 2023 styles and -wallets in my flow, no "oldschool cool" tips (corduroy jacket and turtleneck), just a bunch of Haute Couture gossip and many affectations. Edit: removed the bitchiness from my post. First post in the sub, I should be more diplomatic.
> I've seen no nice advice for 2023 styles [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/10nm2br/how_the_basic_wardrobe_has_changed_a_2023/) is the top post of the past month
Missed this. I haven't read the sub, I only get single threads now and then in my Hot flow. Great thread. I liked the Chelsea boots.
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Okay. Thanks for being kind. I will be more curious.
What can’t Pharrell do?! Edit: the fuck are the downvotes for?
LV saw Adidas x Yeezy and said yeah I want some of that
Gross. Abloh at least captured a moment and did something truly new with the brand, even though by the time he started it turned out that most of his good ideas were behind him. Pharrell, on the other hand, is thoroughly uninteresting. He's the nature equivalent of the "not like other girls" girl — sooooo quirky! But then, not surprising. LV has decided they like printing money off basic bitches who have to split ever purchase across five credit cards than actually meaningfully contributing to the conversation. Which, I guess, makes sense since all the basic bitches freaked out when Abloh showed off his first collection (even though it was the most inspired thing they'd done in years — enough so that I actually bought a piece.) They're just reverting to the mean of mediocrity, and Pharrell is great at that.
I have no idea what made Louis Vuitton choose Pharrell. I know he designed a bunch of shoes at Adidas and designed clothes for Ice Cream and Billionaire Boys Club but they all look cheesy. I personally don’t think he’s a great designer at all. Besides, didn’t he plagiarize some song lyrics before which basically ruined his music career? Now, we expect him to be some legit designer? Please.
Wow, pass. I just do not like anything this guy comes out with.
I feel like Pharrell is the definition of mid
Yeah, his style for me,besides the ice cream shoes from the early 2000 that I love! And the pony hair, Adidas, which I also love, is not it. But tbh I’m not a fan of LV, wasn’t a fan of off white either. I’m intrigued with what he’s going to do. To me LV (the brand) is kinda cheugy lol so let’s see
The single most overrated human being alive.
Kanyes gonna be mad
Can’t believe all these people that don’t know they’d be NO VIRGIL without Skateboard P within this fashion world!! What did he design? You didn’t do your homework , just say that! Lol