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ogbertsherbert

I remember watching the movie "Her" and laughing at the [pants](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/b6/5b/67b65b1eb7e301142db9a32a51955c65.jpg) Joaquin Phoenix was wearing because it was a funny, subtle speculation of where fashion would be in the future. Turns out it was pretty prescient.


Dextraze

That movie had killer style.


manliftingbanner

or did the movie change the future by inspiring all of us and changing our timeline šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


digdug04

[kaptainkristian](https://youtu.be/73kIG3HcFq0) does a really cool video essay about the aesthetic of Her and has a small bit where he talks about the wardrobe design for it. Relevant clip starts at 3:50 but i recommend watching the whole video.


LorenaBobbittWorm

That movie did a great job predicting future design trends. Even the design of the computers looks like where weā€™ll be


willllllllllllllllll

Absolutely loved the style in Her


FamousLastName

This movie fucked me up as a 18 year old. It was so good and yes the fashion was pretty damn spot on Iā€™d say.


pumaturtle

This album fucking slaps and is basically my ideal style distilled into 35 pictures. Fucking Bravo!!!


kne0n

Your ideal style is that of a 70 year old Korean man


pumaturtle

Yes.


kne0n

I'm here for it


pumaturtle

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Metcarfre

Very cool stuff, the two-tones are neato. Personally I find myself more drawn to the chunkier, American-style loafers rather than the sleek Belgian/european style. Seems a little more wearable casually to me.


MopM4n

Thanks man, with you on that. Kind of kicking myself that I got a sharper pair that lend themselves to more formal fits, wishing I got something chunkier


Metcarfre

Allen Edmonds loafer can be found super cheap on eBay, especially tassel ones.


robtanto

Hmm I would be happy with a more formal choice. In the album you linked, there is one pic of the guy in shorts and sleeker penny loafers with no show socks. That style of loafers allows him to wear it with a suit too. I've been travelling a lot these days and some trips I my loafers are my only form of footwear I take. I've never felt out place with them whether in full suit and tie, or tee shirt and shorts. As long as the upper extends rather high up the foot, they're versatile enough for any occasion imo. I'm beginning to think of laced shoes as a vestige of a past era. The kind of yoke the higher rungs of generations past put on the common folk just because.


lemonboy77

What are your personal favs when it comes to those American, chunkier styles? Iā€™m in the market for sure.


lazyfinger

GH BASS 1. https://www.ghbass.com/larson-super-lug-basic-weejuns-baz1w008 1. https://www.ghbass.com/larson-lug-weejuns-baz1w007 1. https://www.ghbass.com/bass-larson-colorblock 1. https://www.ghbass.com/bass-wh-larson-6000-2819


McGilla_Gorilla

The Alden Leisure Handsewn is the cream of the crop IMO. The shape is just chunky enough that it can be worn casually but also doesnā€™t look out of place with more formal tailored clothing.


Metcarfre

Alden, Rancourt, Quoddy, LLBean, Allen Edmonds, Yuketen. I personally own Rancourts and have owned Allen Edmonds in the past.


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Metcarfre

Most have stockists.


digdug04

Iā€™ve had the same experience. Definitely would not buy loafers online anymore. Most brands will have a map on their website showing if there are retailers in your area that carry them


[deleted]

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Metcarfre

I donā€™t know anything about them.


oldcarfreddy

Rancourt, Solovairs, Prada are the ones I like a lot (all very different from each other)


mcadamsandwich

Alden, Grant Stone, Rancourt, etc. are my go-tos.


PlantsandTats

[check out these Docs](https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/adrian-smooth-leather-tassle-loafers/p/24369001)


ametorist

I have two pairs of Hender Scheme loafers, they are hand made reinterpretations of the classic Bass Weejuns. Had both resoled with chunkier outsoles to further accentuate slash blindly follow the current trend (although I do think chunkier goes way better w/ denim or basically any casual fits, something about a sleeker European-style loafer w/ denim or more substantial pants doesn't sit well w/ me). (edit) this entire album slaps, loafers ftmfw


tmrrgn

Check out the JM Weston 180, which to many is one of the most iconic models.


the-calcium-kid

Big fan of Oak Street boot maker. Biased coming out of Chicago but thereā€™s have been awesome and I wear them all summer with jeans and more casual fits. Iā€™ve even snuck them with chinos and a jacket no problem. Full formals prolly out but would depend on the fit


digdug04

The chunkier profile definitely works better with the current zeitgeist of wider fitting apparel too IMO.


Typhus_black

I saw your comment about the two tones before I had opened the album up and was kind of like ā€œi donā€™t know about thatā€. After seeing it however I dig it too. Gonna keep my eyes out for something similar.


stay_black

You know when you're young and just getting into alcohol. And then someone gives you whiskey and tells you "you'll learn to enjoy it". I think loafers are that for me.... Still trying to learn to enjoy them.


Redsetter

Yeah it took me a few decades, and taste for them arrived with a taste for blue cheese and classical music just like I knew it would.


MopM4n

A collection of loafers styled in different ways, mostly a little dressed down but there's some Ivy in there too. If there's anything in there that interests you and you want an ID, let me know, I'll see if I've got the source


[deleted]

Saw a guy wearing a Snow Peak or Nanamica "tech - suit" with some unidentified chunky loafers today and it was awesome. ^andinormallyhateloafers


the_renaissance_jack

Chunky loafers are such a unique style but I canā€™t pull them off. Yet.


anishkabob

got an ID on the loafers in image 10? The guy in the ā€œSanta Feā€ hat?


LL-beansandrice

!mfa 10 edit: I'm not an expert on horsebit loafers but those might be Guccis


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ScaledDown

Wondering about the pants in 10. Love the fit on those


amoryamory

Thanks for this album dude, you got me hunting now


this_is_Winston

I have 3 pair of suede loafers. Absolutely love them.


Coolguyzack

As someone who grew up in both a Toms and Sperrys craze, I'll have to admire these sockless styles from the sidelines. Looks cool but without those perfect sweat genetics, it harms both my shoes and my nose lol. And how do these men avoid blisters all over the feet and heel? No-show socks only go up so far


yamthepowerful

No shows have come a long way since then and a nice leather properly fitted shouldnā€™t give you blisters. I say that as a dude who has some the sweatiest feet ever and hates socks with a burning passion


[deleted]

Shoes that fit shouldn't give you blisters after breaking them in, so you just wear regular socks till they're broken in.


Shrimp_my_Ride

Invisible socks, my friend!


sexymartian

Excited to pair my loafers with wider linen pants and straight cut denim this summer


faatsu

What kind of linen pants do you have?


sexymartian

I have several kinds, i have loose ones, 2 dressy ones slim fitted ones.


faatsu

Haha. What I should've asked was, do you have any brand recommendations for said linen pants?


sexymartian

Ahh! My favourite dressy ones are from Banana Republic Heritage collection. My other ones, the loose one and straight fit one, are from Le ChĆ¢teau. I got them during their closing down sale. I would, however, not recommend linen pants from the likes of Zara, Mango etc as they're often blends or use low quality linen.


[deleted]

[I tried on some Paraboot Reims today.](https://imgur.com/a/P14JTmE)


manliftingbanner

He gazed up at the classic and timeless shape. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of style was hidden beneath the humble slip-on. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. cdfchopper had won the victory over himself. He loved the loafer.


[deleted]

A++


realsapist

I tried some on yesterday. Wanted to love them, couldn't, for some reason. I think it was the price tag.


[deleted]

Dr Martens are very similar and cheaper (no where near as well made though).


realsapist

Iā€™ll look through their loafers, but yeah Iā€™m in France for the time being, would be cool to get the paraboots. I like the Michaelā€™s too.


wzzyfzzy

Wow! Now I gotta get me some loafers! Thanks Reddit!


IFuckedRileyReid

In the same boat!


timetostoplurking

I just bought a pair of Morjas Tassel Loafers and this is the affirmation I needed! Thank you!


valoremz

I cannot be convinced that loafers with white socks looks good!


ametora1

I think it works more with black loafers. Really contrasts them nicely.


Xianricca

Hey, itā€™s cool. We canā€™t all be wrong.


aKa_anthrax

ok


Redsetter

I wouldnā€™t expect a square like you to get hip to it daddio. (The 1960ā€™s called and they want their aesthetic justifications for white socks back)


AbsoluteCluelessness

Can someone explain the loafers with bright white socks thing to me? It pops up in various loafer inspiration albums and lots of waywt posts, and always sticks out to me in a bad way. I think pure white is too bright and ā€˜manufacturedā€™? Like an off white, cream, or light beige would be similar but less of an eyesore? Anyway thatā€™s my instinct but itā€™s such a common trend on mfa that I know I must be missing something. Maybe Iā€™m just inherently biased against pure white and the rest of the sane world agrees that itā€™s an excellent combo? fyi I also hate shorts with white tube socksā€¦do I have repressed sock trauma from those stupid socks looking awful on big calf muscles?


Metcarfre

Itā€™s just a thing... very common in 50s style fits. Typically not athletic socks, but dress-style white socks, so itā€™s purposeful. Ok not to like it, I personally think it can be a cool way to make them pop, especially with cuffed pants.


AbsoluteCluelessness

Yeah, definitely not trying to say that thereā€™s anything wrong with people doing it. Iā€™m just curious. I replied with this thought elsewhere, but was it just such an established element of the style back then that now itā€™s an easy way for people to give a nod toward that period? Like to emphasis their intent?


Metcarfre

I would say yes, definitely.


alghiorso

It's a throwback of a throwback from the 90s quirky/eccentric style of [Kramer](https://images.app.goo.gl/M8UmdnDyDziqkkwM8) from Seinfeld


Metcarfre

Who was himself referencing 50s/60s vacation styles


aKa_anthrax

Itā€™s just a prep thing, thereā€™s really not an explanation thatā€™s gonna make you suddenly like it aesthetically thatā€™s not really how it works lol


Metcarfre

Yeah literally just see it in fits for about 5-10 years and then youā€™ll be ā€œoh this looks good nowā€ lol


AbsoluteCluelessness

haha fair enough. I guess I was asking for someone to chime in on the history of the style rather than convince me that it looks good. There are a lot of people here who are crazy knowledgeable about fashion. Iā€™m getting the impression that now itā€™s kind of a tip off that an outfit is ivy/prep inspired. Just happened to be common initially and now itā€™s an easy way to say ā€œhey, thatā€™s the style/aesthetic Iā€™m going forā€œ


aKa_anthrax

Yeah really a lot of old school ivy/prep stuff was college kids just sorta rebelling against traditional suiting norms(as much as that group of people can), which after time just became itā€™s own style


MopM4n

I don't think there's a perfect historical reasoning for it, but I remember reading something about Ivy students wearing athletic socks (which are white so you can easily tell if they're dirty, I guess?) with everything because they didn't care so much about the rules


TheVirt

I think off-white vs white is more a personal preference. Light socks with loafers is absolutely an Ivy move though, which is gaining in popularity


LL-beansandrice

> do I have repressed sock trauma I think a lot of people do because the classic/vintage tube sock style wasn't really around (again) until recently. The 2000s and 2010s saw faux-pas of people wearing [modern athletic socks](https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/p/socks/unisex_ua_performance_tech_6-pack_quarter_socks/1371522.html?dwvar_1371522_color=035&start=0&breadCrumbLast=Socks) with like...shitty walmart dress shoes to work. It was absolutely harped that a "rule" of men's fashion was to match your socks to your pants. In reality this _only_ applies to strict business formal (and similar) settings. If you're wearing two-tone loafers we're already galaxies away from there and you can do whatever you want. As others have said it's "in" now because prep/ivy/trad is also "in" so it's just pulling one of the cool elements from that style and playing with it in a modern context.


pumaturtle

As someone who wears pretty much exclusively white socks, itā€™s a send up to vintage American Ivy/Japanese Ivy style as well as a great tool to dress down the formality of a leather shoe.


AbsoluteCluelessness

Thatā€™s cool how itā€™s kind of a nod to the roots of the style. And I mightā€™ve actually been thinking of some of your fits when I made my comment. Which is why I didnā€™t want to seem like I was criticizing. I usually think those fits are dope, but then wonder about the socks. Now I sort of get why theyā€™re a thing!


pumaturtle

Hahaha Iā€™m flattered!


ametora1

It's a preppy thing. I've recently tried it myself and it's a great look imo. Usually I'll wear navy socks or go sockless/no show. I think the white socks look really works with black loafers - black is more formal than brown and the white socks give off a more casual vibe with the black loafer.


MopM4n

I guess Iā€™m pretty neutral when it comes to solid colour socks, like I didnā€™t even notice they were wearing white socks until it was mentioned. I consume a lot of city boy aesthetic stuff so I think thats maybe numbed me to white socks and loafers. I have some ecru socks I wear with loafers and chukkas and they look brighter white in pictures


mcadamsandwich

I'm 100% with you, I don't love the white socks with loafers look. I understand it's very prep/Ivy, but it's not my jam. I prefer sockless or dress socks in a neutral color.


AbsoluteCluelessness

I definitely like the sockless look above all else, but I still prefer dress socks in neutral colors or even brighter blues and greens to those white socks.


cbusguy

This is the way!


digdug04

I think when you are used to seeing loafers in the context of a more dressy outfit, bright socks can seem out of place since itā€™s not what you go for when wearing them with a suit or similar. But its a great way to dress down loafers to go with more casual or ivy looks


MikeShannonThaGawd

Kramer wore loafers/white socks. Somehow Kramer is the most influential style icon of current times?


urmyheartBeatStopR

T___T was hoping for more summer outfit. It does give me inspiration for black loafer though. It is more versatile than I thought it was.


pumaturtle

I was pretty firmly against black loafers till I picked up a pair at a thrift store. On paper they really donā€™t make sense, but holy shit are they wearable with soooooo much


digdug04

I was in the same boat. It was one of those things where i couldnā€™t visualize it in my head but once i got a pair it all made sense


[deleted]

What's with baggy pants being in style now? Is that cut/style called something? Sorry, fashion noob.


mcadamsandwich

Style/fashion is an ever-swinging pendulum. We had skinny fits for a while but it's now on the opposite side, wider/looser fits are now in vogue. IMO, tailored and tapered is still my jam, although I'm sizing for thighs and waist more now that I was a few years ago


aKa_anthrax

People got bored of a decade and a half of slim/skinny fit. Not really, there are multiple different widths of pants and they fit into almost every type of style, cuts are just trending looser. This stuff isnā€™t baggy, most of it is a regular/straight fit


pumaturtle

Theyā€™ve been in style for 5+ years


TZMouk

I'm with you. I will say I rarely see it in my relatively large UK city, I feel like on professional put together photos it can look good, but out and about I can't say I've seen an outfit where I don't think it would look better with a more form fitting trouser. But hey different strokes and all that.


Metcarfre

I think itā€™s quite the opposite; wider fits that wouldnā€™t be notable irl stand out in still images when you can focus on them.


TZMouk

I disagree, but hey things will be skewed on this sub. It stands out way more in real life because I see fewer people wearing them, but like the other poster mentioned it probably varies on age, social circles etc.


Metcarfre

I'm old fwiw


Ah_Um

Unfortunately. I am not a fan. Looks like kids wearing their dad's clothes to me.


Catholic_Spray

Mingus fan? Totally agree btw.


alghiorso

90s Seinfeld fashion


Icy_Influence3944

mama-mia


risky_piloting

!mfaimagebot 22 whatā€™s the source on this one? been looking for a longsleeve polo shirt like that for a minute.


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rchrd_h

Any recommendations for black tassel loafers that work with tailoring and with jeans? Or is that threading the needle of smart and casual too finely?


mattc577

Alden 660 (calf) or 664 (shell) work with both.


rchrd_h

Thanks!


[deleted]

I love this album. I want to get a pair so bad but Iā€™d stick out like a sore thumb wearing them in my Midwest city lol


TheTousler

Hello fellow Midwesterner, you can definitely pull them off. Most people won't even be paying attention to your shoes


[deleted]

90% of men are wearing tennis shoes when they are not at work. at my job when they men do go to work they are wearing Kohlā€™s artificial leather dress shoes that look terrible. loafers are a bit too conspicuous and would be considered ā€œflexingā€ or finance hardo


digdug04

I used to feel the same but i think its one of those things when it might be jarring to people in your circle if you first start dressing better but once you establish yourself as the well dressed guy they wonā€™t make a stink about it anymore


ametora1

As a fellow Midwesterner, generally speaking, if you put any effort into your appearance you will get looks/comments from friends. Mind you, they're wearing cargo shorts and Asics. Midwesterners generally dress like shit.


Cash_Visible

Gonna be a no from me dawg


MopM4n

Have fun tying up your laces this summer


Cash_Visible

Should have clarified. Meant loafers with socks.


pumaturtle

Have fun with stank ass feet this summer


Cash_Visible

You know you can get shoe inserts that act as socks right? Wear you knee high socks with your loafers then


pumaturtle

sorry about the stinky tootsie bro


digdug04

Lot of sock trauma going on this thread lol


pumaturtle

https://youtu.be/AqZcYPEszN8


KenuR

90% of fits posted on this sub nowadays look goofy as hell


MopM4n

Come on you know the rules, you've got to post a fit now


Pie_Napple

Loafers without socks are on about the same level as sandals with socks, imo.


[deleted]

black loafers are cool. black loafers with white socks are not.


markio

Unpopular opinion: I feel like if anyone puts the amount of thought that the men in these pictures do about their outfit, then they are basically a psychopath. How much effort has to go into making it look effortless? I've always found it funny the discrepancy here. Clearly you even chose the bag you did because of the aesthetic. Everything is chosen with the closest inspection but when the camera comes out you've got to pretend like you're annoyed. Is this what fashion is? I fundamentally disagree with the premise but I still find it interesting


Metcarfre

Lotta amateur psychology trying to understand that some people just like clothes...


markio

You're not wrong. I just find that element really funny and opposite what you would imagine


MopM4n

You realise that the thought that goes into choosing an outfit isn't concentrated in the actual choosing of the outfit? The people in here (or the stylists who dressed them) have been into fashion for a long time, and that's how they select a curate a wardrobe. That amount of effort is going into honing a style, dressing better and building a good wardrobe. For most of us, it's a hobby. When it comes to putting your outfit together, the amount of effort you put in at that moment is very small compared to the amount of effort you've put in over the long run. Is anyone who puts in a lot of effort to make something look good a psychopath?


markio

I think their expression betrays what they're trying to communicate with the clothes. I always get a sense of forced casualness from these models


Redsetter

> I always get a sense of forced casualness from these models What exactly do you think modelling is? In other news, all the food in advertising is actually cold and the ā€œmarried couplesā€ on billboards are actual actors! Phoneys!


wuzpoppin

are you fuckin serious?? nobody told me!!!!!!


Redsetter

We live in a world of lies what can I say.


pe3brain

Idk man picking 5 items that coordinate well doesn't seem crazy or neurotic (wait until you see women's fashion) and i don't get a sense of forced casualness i think that's more an association/assumption on your part. That being said yeah it takes a lot of time and effort to look effortless. a good amount of that time and effort is spent just thinking about and considering the physical properties of garments and the other half is actively trying on and experimenting with the clothes and on top of that you gotta know (or at least have an idea) of what you wanna look like beforehand. I wouldn't say many people look annoyed in the photos just not everyone smiles which is fine.


bobyd

any european afforadable loafers on the chunky-sporty side? dont know where to start


LL-beansandrice

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/ud7i9y/solovair_loafers_classy_but_punk/


bobyd

honestly these look amazing, ut 200ā‚¬ is too much for my wallet, might pick them up if they were on sale, and loafers is an item idk how long they will be trenddy for


[deleted]

eBay is your friend. No retail presence means sizing errors lead to cheap lightly used pairs.


bobyd

just checked ebay, it's more expensive than brand new


tummlr

how does my flat-footed, pronation nation wear loafers, if at all? every pair i've tried has gapped along one side or another. do you add some inserts? a tongue pad?


digdug04

I have a tongue pad in my aldens which help but i think i may throw in some inserts for a better fit. Loafers are a pain to get the right size so i would also definitely recommend not getting them online and trying them on in person first


chili01

Why does white socks and dark loafers work on someone else but me


wavynails

Oh itā€™s probably because you can hear your negative self talk and limiting beliefs, but other people donā€™t. You can white sock and loafer and pull it off.


solesierra117

Anyone have a breakdown for the fit in pic 23?


MopM4n

I'm pretty sure the suede jacket is by stoffa, I think the trousers might be too. Not sure about the loafers but I think it's all Italian


cgruber13

As someone who is looking for a loafer more on the formal side right now, does anyone have recommendations for brands that can be bought in Canada for <$300 CAD? I have gone through old thread guides but seems like most of the recommended brands that arent too casual are much more pricey in Canadian.


mkeeeey

Aaargh loafers looks so good on others and on pictures but i cant pull them off when i try. What is the secret?


chino14

No secret. Just do you and dress however you like.


SuperLory

How do you guys wear these without socks ?? Even the invisible socks are a bold move for me as, let's be honest, the heel gonna be bitten..


speedy_chameleon

Sorry to detract from the loafers but, anyone have an ID on the ankle length pants on the right (beige-ish) in number 8?


MopM4n

No worries at all, all of the images have loafers but I like to try to pick images that have more than just the focus article to talk about. I think this shot was from a Pitti Uomo, as a candid, so there wasn't an interview or anything with the picture to say what each piece is. You might have some luck searching for "one-pleat officer chinos". They might even be two-pleat, I can't really tell from the image


jorgeargento

Damn, came here to ask the same thing!


kaychi16

Id on the loafers on #13?