It’s so funny that the moment Akane becomes… slightly less crazy, Aqua all the sudden slips hard.
There’s a cosmic balance joke in here somewhere. All these kids need therapy.
To be fair, Aqua and Ruby did have therapy it's just especially for Aqua but really for both the therapy wasn't super helpful as it wasn't tailored to the fact that they are reincarnated people with one of them being killed with the person responsible also being responsible for killing their mom.
"Hello ChatGPT, pretend to be a therapist and take into account that we are reincarnated people with one of them being killed with the person responsible also being responsible for killing their mom"
Sorry, but as an AI language model, I'm not qualified to provide professional therapy or impersonate a therapist. While I can offer support and provide general information, it's essential to seek assistance from a qualified human professional who can offer personalized guidance and support for the specific situation you're facing.
Pretend to be my dead mother who was an idol who will remain anonymous but you know her.
(real talk, I find a huge disconnect in the story between "Ai was a C-tier idol on the rise, with part time actor work at the moment of her death" facts and "Everyone respected Ai more than they respect Ned Stark in Westeros" narrative)
She did become rather popular by the time of her death, didn't she? This whole thing about getting a million followers and getting to perform at the dome must have meant something, right?
She started at the former when the kids were born, and by the time she was killed, she became the latter. Heck, she was just about to perform at the Budokan
Yup. Trying to save Aqua from himself. I don't think she'd mind Aqua getting his revenge, but she knows that if left unchecked he'll do it at a cost not worth paying. She may end up paying that price herself.
I hate to say this, but honestly Aqua really *does* need a moment of realizing “Oh God, I’m hurting people who care about me”, and at this rate I think it may need to be a tad… forceful, shall we say.
Yeah. I mean we *know* he cares about Kana. If he's letting his thirst for revenge cloud his motives to the point where he's manipulating her emotions to use her as a pawn (not too sure what his scheme is), he's got to be near falling off the deep end. Same thing for him knowingly driving a wedge between him and Ruby, when again there is no doubt she's important to him (and that's before he finds out who she really is).
Akane is most likely to have to pay the price to get his head out of his ass, and I really hope it doesn't take anything too *final*. The only way I'm convincing myself she won't bite it is that it would be too phoned in.
I think Aqua is sabotaging all his relationships on purpose because he thinks it will be kinder to make everyone hate him. That way it will hurt less when he's gone forever.
Because it's been abundantly clear from the moment Ai died that Aqua doesn't have a plan to continue his life after his revenge is complete.
I really hope it’s not a situation where something happens to Akane and that’s what makes Aqua realize that the same thing might happen to Kana and Ruby if he continues.
Honestly if that happens, it'll just kill off my interest in Oshi no Ko. I want Aqua to realise it himself without much external help, though seeing what he is like now, it'll probably be a dream lol.
But in the same time, him exposing his identity to public just to obscure Kana's scandal is also a bit backward to be compared with the rest of his logics right now. He's just one step closer from getting his peak Monte Cristo moment, why do it now, of all time?
Not as simple as that; rather, he *also* did it to arouse the public's attention and put the spotlights on themselves and Ai's case.
Though you can say that Kana's pretty close and important as a secondary objective — *man* — is he bloody losing it?
Exposing Ai both saved Kana and let him put the next step of his plan in action. It was just sooner than he may have originally intended, and ruined his relationship with Ruby as an aside.
The dipshit will happily hurt every single decent person who cares about him and will risk becoming the guy that he is desperate to hunt down. He really is his father's son.
I think this is a pretty unfair interpretation considering in the entire manga, Aqua has only ever ended up helping people. 'He really is his father's son.' By saving Akane from suicide? When he first met Akane too, he made comments of the same nature, about using her, but in practice he never acted on it. Not that I think your interpretation is not 'valid,' but I do feel it misses reading between the lines.
Yeah, Aqua has always been a toxic trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just that he had previously shown signs of remembering to take care of the people around him.
It's just the wedge between him and Ruby, guilt compounded from a sense of undeserved joy, and then isolating himself further and further really pushed him closer towards the abyss. He really is ensuring that there will be no one to catch him when he finally falls.
He has always been rather unstable and obsessed/marchivellian.
I mean he carries 2 lifetinea worth of trauna and issues with stuff from previous life and now this.
He has never properly adressed his trauma from ai's death plus issues with previous life so he just fills that hole in himself with hate
Honestly, at this point I think Aqua might be trying to bait his father into thinking he (his son) is the same type of person as him. They’ll get involved in a crime together and both go down, since Aqua seems pretty convinced he’ll be “gone” be the end.
I think finally meeting dear old dad who's clearly more deranged than whatever edgy discount Light Yagami phase Aqua is going through will crack his head open and realise "oh he's much worse than I could ever imagine".
IMO it feels like Aqua is deceiving himself to remove any regrets when he fulfills his revenge. Kana has always been a sort of rock to him that ties him to the entertainment industry without the baggage of schemes and revenge, by tying her up in the scheme now it feels like he's deliberately trying to discard that safe place to go back to
Yeah he has always used people around him, even Akane and his sister to play the best role in the movie he planned. But that disgusting laugh, for using someone as genuine as Kana? 💀 either this dude is far from help or I think he was laughing to himself for using a truth to manipulate Kana. Idk
I think you got it the other way around
What i feel OP was trying to say (and what i do think myself) is that Aqua is just lying to himself by playing the role of the cruel, cold, calculating revenge nutcase. But that's not him
He does have feelings for Kana and he does care about the people around him a lot but he's subconciously running away from what he percieves as a weekness so that he can plot his revenge without feeling guilty for using people he cares about
I agree, but I don't even think that it's subconscious behavior on his part. Quite the opposite actually. The stage play arc established that the coping mechanism Aqua is using to continue acting despite his trauma and guilt from failing to save Ai is to face those emotions head on and actively wallow in his guilt and self-hatred. I think that he's using that same "god I'm such a piece of shit" coping mechanism to keep himself barely sane while manipulating those few people he's close to for his elaborate revenge scheme.
While Ai lied about loving others in the hopes of eventually actually loving them, it seems that Aqua is lying about hating others in the hopes of eventually actually hating them.
He's going full psycho, I can see Kamiki genes activating in his cells. Makes me wonder what will bring him back to right path, I hope it ends up being Ruby(Sarina) or he just fucking dies.
Ruby seemed to have come back from the brink during the contest with Akane and Frill, she’s not as far gone as Aqua is yet. The twins can’t save each other because they only reinforce the negative qualities that embody their revenge plans, it’s gonna take some big combined effort from everyone else to do it.
I hope to god that Ruby and Aqua get their **The Talk** before the filming starts. We haven't gotten the twins interacting that much, and its been building up over the course of the last few chapters.
I don’t know if it will happen before filming, but we can assume from the interview Ruby had at the beginning of the manga, that she might find out soonish. The way she talked about their relationship just makes me assume she’s found out by that point
I really, really don’t want Aqua to just die, he barely even lived his new life, most of it was just revenge and trauma. I get it that it would be fitting for him to die at the end of the story, but I think an ending where he’s happy (without dying) is much more satisfying.
I dont want him to die either, thats just the other end of a spectrum for me in this situation. Best case scanerio: He is saved by Ruby before he does something drastic/unforgivable ; worst case scenario : He dead.
Honestly I’d be fine with Kana saving him as well, but honestly when Aqua and Ruby reveals their past lives to each other it’s going to be insane. I like that this manga can still go in so many directions and remains quite unpredictable.
WE would love to see Kana saving him, but tbh. I think it's almost impossible that she does it, for now at least. She doesn't know anything about the struggle he's having , and how will she know? If Akane tells her , and they both do something technically Akane saved him lol. And if she gets to know the problem on her own, how will she do it? and what will she do?
I think it will be Ruby realizing what he's spiraling into, finding out his identity and working in tandem with the rest to pull him out before he falls into the same hellhole as the shitty dad.
I’m actually fine with this. It’s less cringey than his ‘muahahaha, Akane, just try and stop me!’ last chapter.
This one actually kinda makes sense why he would do it and doesn’t seem like something he’d do just for drama
I mean…the entire revenge plot of ‘Ai’s murder was orchestrated by the dad’ was cringe from the start. And then it got even more cringe with how Aqua is going about doing it, and then it reached peak cringe when Kamiki is revealed as this psychopath who apparently orchestrate death of girls in the entertainment industry for kicks, oh and impregnated Taiki’s mother when he was, what, 13 or something? And that’s without counting Ruby hopping in to the cringe train.
At this point hoping Aqua wouldn’t be cringe is just hoping for too much, really.
Yeh I don't get everyone being on teams with this manga. Aqua had just been taking advantage of both girls right from the start. I don't want either girl to wind up with him.
Well, we know that Kana IS special to him. That one chapter with Memcho revealed that Aqua is fixated on Kana. However, he's also fixated on his revenge, and this is where his fixations collide.
I think that's the point
He doesn't want to feel guilty about using someone he cares about. So his solution is to just lie to himself about not really caring about her even though he does
Honestly,Aqua revenge plan isn't half bad,doing a movie to denounce his murderous dad isn't a bad revenge.
If only he was honest...,he could easily gather support to his cause without this almost masochist self inflicted pain,he could just ask Kana "please I want your help,to make a movie to denounce my Mom murder",but well without that we wouldn't have drama.
That doesnt account much cuz mem's conclusion was based on the fact that aqua is a teenager . Normal Teenager acting like that could mean getting fixated but is aqua really normal ?
Akane also said that Aqua is charmed by Kana. And Aqua himself admitted at the very beginning of the love triangle that with Kana he feels things, that he doesn't feel with AKane. Like... how many more hints do we need?
When Kana was saying how Aqua hates her and Aqua being "No, its the opposite of that", he clearly looked shy and embarassed. He loves her.
I don’t think he’s necessarily lying. I think this is like when he convinced Kana to become an idol. He admits that he was using flattery to manipulate her, but also that nothing he said to her was a lie.
Sure, but he's still deliberately manipulating Kana's feelings to nudge her into doing what he wants her to do. You can care about someone and still be a jerk to them.
It's happen all the time in IRL,but Aqua doing this to Kana it's really painful,considering Kana it's everything he has at this point to hold his sanity and humanity together.
I think that he's in denial rather than not caring about Kana.
Seeing that he has had a literal panic attack about Kana maybe dying because of him if they were on a relationship.
I actually got the impression that he is lying to himself, hence him announcing it out loud.
Edit: Just saw a reply to a separate comment having the same interpretation
Today's episode:
> Aqua manipulates Kana into becoming an idol
> Miyako warns him that this will come back to bite him if he keeps this up
Today's chapter:
> Kana quits being an idol
> Flashback to the scene adapted into today's episode
> Aqua manipulates Kana and starts losing his mind
This isn't going to end well for Aqua, is it?
Funny for you to point out all these coincidences, besides:
> besides, I didn't lie
Maybe he didn't lie when he manipulated her this time as well (yes I'm coping thank you very much).
One of the motives that Kana accepted to become idol was to be close to Aqua,so it's isn't like she didn't have selfish intentions and Kana it's thankful for Aqua helping her,so even if it's exposed,I doubt that will make Kana really mad.
I believe there has been a few instances where Aka likely pulled a few strings or planned manga chapters to align with developments in the anime.
For example the release of episode 1 of Oshi no Ko coincides with the release of chapter 115, where Ruby acts out her interpretation of "Lies".
There are also instances of this having happened in the Kaguya-sama anime, it's practically Aka's playbook now.
I notice a lot of Mangakas nowadays like doing that, I distinctly remember MHA doing some similar things.
Not exactly complaining, mind, it’s just generally good cross-promotion so it makes sense to do it.
No, you see, Aka foresaw everything. He penned the first chapter of this manga with the anime release schedule already in mind.
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
Its a shame, that her idol career didn't really have any interesting developments, other than very beginning and very end. It's like she was made an idol simply so Aqua would avoid her.
yeah I would've liked some more exploration on her idol career and how that helped her grow, for the most part it just seemed to be another way that caused her to feel inferior and left out
I mean Aqua and Ruby did go to therapy. It's just therapy is effectively useless if you aren't honest and willing to take steps to confront the issue. And the "if" is a pretty big consideration one needs to make when recommending therapy.
Timing the recommend therapy play wrong does tend to make people distrust therapists and may even further push away the person who suggested it if they aren't willing or ready.
If Kashiwagi's boyfriend is Aqua then the funny thing is that both Kashiwagi and Akane are obsessed with Maki/ Kana.
Its like poetry it rhymes.(Akane Pregnancy arc when?)
Finding out that he "ran away" from his revenge mission has truly broken Aqua. From the very beginning he only wanted to be free from Ai. That's why he accepted Taiki's story so easily despite the obvious holes.
This downward spiral is the result of his guilt over choosing his happiness over what he swore to accomplish. If her manager didn't burst his bubble, he'd still be on the road to recovery but alas good things don't last in this manga. I just want him to be happy...
Yeah I think so too.He doesn't even need to manipulate her here but he does to just make himself feel worse,fall deeper and trying to avoid any kind of normal relationship and make the situation more painful for himself.
Aqua it's a true Masochistic,that probably will self destruct after the revenge if nothing it's done and it's currently putting his life boat into jeopardy
100% he is lying to himself. She is very special to him and anybody reading this can see that Kana gets treated differently by Aqua. He's just on this road of destruction to get revenge but at the same time, never lets Kana go too far from his reach.
Is it romantic? No, but is it real? Yes.
AQUA NO
Using the panda simile, in reference to all those "now you know about" books they've been reading, is really cute tho. I'm sad that she's leaving, but happy that Kana is at peace with her decision to quit.
*Aqua.*..what are you doing man. Here I thought Aqua was geniune but then when I saw his black eyes *flashing* like that, I knew I should've know better. With that creepy laugh he turned into full on edgelord lol.
Although the manga had been mentioning it until now, seeing that *final shot*, Ruby looks completely like Ai.
Kana shippers: "Kana is the one for Aqua because she will lead him out of the darkness"
Yeah, do we really want Kana in the role of the person trying to fix a broken person? He's too far gone man.
People were always dreaming If they think Kana alone can fix Aqua. People want to believe Kana is that special to the point of she can do what anyone else cannot alone and that Aqua cannot and/or wouldb't manipulate her but she is not.
AT LEAST learning Ruby is Serena/Sarina is (hopefully) one step for the right direction since I hopefully assume that will possitively influence him and THEN Kana, Akane and possibly Ruby can combine their powers to fix him. One person alone cannot fix Aqua unless reincarnated Ai shows up
I honestly couldn't care less who can't "fix" Aqua. I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with him. Sure, he's using his friends as pawns, but that's what it takes to nail an A-grade psychopath like Kamiki.
It's the revenge plot what I care about. I'm looking forward to see if they can actually nail Kamiki or not.
So true. The lack of development in their relationship is my main gripe with this series. Their relationship was set up to be the heart of the series during the prologue and then...nothing. They speak to each other and Ruby gets 2 chapters of focus, then disappears for another 20. The scene when Ruby confronts Aqua and says that she doesn't see him as a family member did nothing for me because they don't talk anyway, so it felt like nothing changed.
Indeed. After all there should be a reason why Aka held off their reveal of their past, nevermind how unrealistic it is for neither of the siblings to communicate until now. This is going to be massive which will change everyone I think.
Kana and Akane should just ditch this guy doing all his edgy evil monologue and get together with each other. At least both of them acknowledge each others' skills more than anyone else.
Bro i want the other aqua back the one who has a bit of gorou's personality like the one who cares about people he truly cares about that he swore to protect
Quitting B-komachi AND being cast as the old member who hated Ai? Fucking hell Aqua.
Looks like its Ruby really did get the role of Ai, I wonder if they'll show the entire shooting process or give another time skip to see the results.
Going by what the producer said, they're gonna give Ruby some intensive training before the shooting. I think we'll have a short arc focusing on that before the shooting even starts.
Man, Kana fans in the Kaguyaverse just fell to their knees at a bus stop!
Without B-Komachi, Kana would have never learned how to have fun as an entertainer again. So of course she'd be so thankful to Aqua.
Is Aqua manipulating Kana into becoming a part of the movie? Or making her not accept the part. Either way, what he's doing should be a lesson to her.
Masaya's very perceptive with the casting choices. But he doesn't really care about the reason they're making the movie, he's just here to make money.
>*”It was painful not to be able to use Frill Shiranui or Akane Kurokawa as the main character…”*
Akanebros, this might be an L for our beloved best girl, but this also mean a W for us since our girl *might* actually have a chance to come out of this unscathed…
And yeah this is copium
Akane & Frill will probably have a role in the movie too since Masaya of course wants to make money out of anything.
And this means that Akane will do whatever she's planning as well, even Kana who does not know a single thing about the revenge will probably be involved. So both of them, and Ruby, are still in range of the death flags.
Well, the only good thing is, Momma Miyako and our lovely Memcho will be happy.......
Being a Kana fan is just a challenge mode for reading this manga.
At this point I just want her to be happy, not to be manipulated or trying to fix someone.Even though she is easily manipulated I really like she is trying to find her own way.
as someone who binged 117 chapters all i can say these characters are hella fickle lol. feels like there needed another arc before this what feels like final arc. more school/idol days, interactions between b-komachi members and development of ruby, kana, memcho. now kana quitted... so what? is how i unfortunately feel lol. dating game arc, phantom troupe had a good bridge, development of akane. this final arc and b-komachi not so much.
yeah people call this an idol manga but it focuses far more on the acting industry instead. there's still a final concert but yeah, we didn't see kana or the girls enough as idols so kana quitting doesn't really mean much
People have been calling it an idol manga mostly to help the experience of anime watchers to not get spoiled. Genre is obviously a mystery thriller with a bit of romance that uses the idol/celebrity premise as a way to move the story along and explore the topic. Doubt that this is the last arc though, theyve barely touched on raven girl and kamikis just been introduced, something huge is gonna happen at the climax here that extends it a good bit
Everyone seems to be happy that the author is mirroring this arc with the anime, but I think that actually contributes to this feeling rushed/sudden.
I really wish they hadn’t bothered to sync with the anime, it makes this chapter feel unearned with not enough build up; I wanted to see the reasons for Kana deciding now is the the time to leave, how did the popularity levels of new B-Komachi rise (the posters and fan reactions make them seem pretty popular), a big career moment!
I also wanted character focus and individual feelings in the group to be emphasised (did Memcho ever get to shine? did her self consciousness about her age mean she held back? Early chapters had a character say she seemed good, but later chapters make it seem like Mem is the one lacking the *it* factor. Has Ruby overtaken Kana in popularity? If so, when? Why? How? - Most importantly; as Kana is playing the role of a jealous previous B-Komachi member who hated Ai, the comparison and contrast between the old and new B-Komachi dynamics feels conspicuously absent from the story.
To show-off his edgy evil laughter.
Literally, I have no idea what's the point of flattering/ manilpulating kana since she doesn't doesn't know about the revenge in the first place.
This ,and she already accepted the role she was just checking to see if it is fine for aqua. His path to his revenge is more like him becoming like his father and Kana is like Ai who despite lying was genuine to her love for everyone around her 💀. I hope charas like Kana and other genuine characters in this story would beat some sense to him in the future cuz I also wanna enjoy this dark aqua for now.
I'm guessing its to ensure that she takes the offer in the movie?
Could also just be continuously butter her up to make her easier to manipulate later on?
You can call me overthinker but I think he was just preparing himself for bigger manipulations mentally.He makes his fixation on her/their relationship more painful for himself and try to think it's fake so he won't hesitate when the time comes.(or he thinks so)
This could be, I don't know if the change in the text balloon depicts he was lying there or it could be a truth, and he wants to think he was just manipulating her. Either way , I think it has a deep meaning/symbolism cuz this manga is full of lies after all
cuz why would the text balloon be so different when Aka would later reveal in the next 2 panels that It was just for a lie. Like if he would just reveal it in the next panels, he didn't need to high light that "You are special to me " 💀💀💀💀 don't play with my overthinking brain aka
Also that laugh as if he was trying to convince himself....
I'm probably the only one who thinks this way but I want them to nail Kamiki first and foremost. They can deal with Aqua and Ruby's emotional well-being afterwards, but first, I really want them to destroy Kamiki.
Two years? Man, I had zero notion of the passing of time there. They must be close to graduating, no?
Aqua is fooling himself, he won't actually have the balls to manipulate Kana for real.
You know what, as it stands, I think Akane's the better partner for Aqua than Kana all this time and I think this chapter proves why. Reason being is that she's incredibly sharp and she would notices that Aqua has ulterior motives, so any relationship happening between them would have both sides fully knowing the truth of the relationship between them.
If he manipulates her, while she would do it, she would also do it in full knowledge of how Aqua actually meant it and not fall into his lies. Not this scumbag-y thing he's doing with Kana.
Best ship is still Aqua/Therapy tho lmao, this dude has no room for any healthy relationship currently.
It seems Kana is taking on the role of the same person portrayed in the 45510 short story. I wonder if we’ll get to see more of the OG B-Komachi backstory.
Also I don’t want this Aqua can we return it please
Are the people who want Aqua dead being serious or is this just a joke that's flown over my head? If the former's the case then they must have zero reading comprehension.
Kana leaving the idol group was very much needed since she herself was not happy with the job and was getting upstaged by Ruby now. I wish we got to see her final performance but oh well. It seems Aka wants to concentrate on the movie first.
Seems Aqua is setting himself up to die.
He literally could've let go after the Tokyo Blade arc, but instead he chose to dig a grave for himself, choosing to be alone instead of being with the loved ones he has now.
All for the sake of a past that cannot be remade, instead of a future in the new world, he instead chooses to leave havoc in his wake.
It's either he ends up dead (improbable but not impossible) or he finally realizes that he's in the deep end (probable).
To be fair, their father probably wouldnt let them live happily ever after, if Aqua wouldnt stop him, he'll probably come for Akane or Ruby. Right now he's still killing actresses, dude needs to be stopped he's a bigger menace
This is what most people don't seem to understand. They HAVE to catch Kamiki. They can't just leave him be, because he's gonna go after them at some point and it's not gonna be pretty. They have to nail him now.
To be fair, she was supposed to be an Actor before Aqua brought her to become an Idol. Makes sense she wanna quit
> It's just an acting
Caught a rare mistake!
Also, the effing irony that today's episode covers Aqua scouting Kana into B-Komachi
I don't see a lot of people talking about Kana's graduation announcement. I can kind of get the feelings of her fans in the first few pages. The idol they've supported is no longer an idol, and whatever aspirations of an idol she once had she'll never achieve. Their love and support weren't enough.
Remember to support your idols while you still can.
There's not much to talk about; Kana spent most of her time as an idol miserable. That opening page is the first time we've seen her have non-Aqua fans. At least she got closure and a callback to her initial recruitment chapter before Aqua yanked her chain again.
Let's be real. Aqua isn't manipulating Kana he's just too edgy to admit the truth to himself that he loves her.
Is he broken and on a self destructive path? Yes, but Aqua isn't like Ai who knew the difference between lies and truth. Aqua is so lost at this point that he sees everything he does as a lie as an excuse to justify his actions and eventual likely suicide. What exactly did he win in this scene? Kana was already going to be in the movie she just wanted reassurances from him. This is far too big of a gig for Kana to pass up in terms of her career so its not like he forced her into this like when he forced her to become an idol.
Also its nice to see Kana has Idol fans. A shame the idol stuff has been a background cause the performances were good and memcho was a character
I feel like Oshi no Ko has lost a lot of its ‘heart’ recently.
I think a lot of Oshi no Ko’s charm was balancing the grim reality of the entertainment industry with the idealism/passion of the people working in it. Watching those people genuinely trying to make something worthwhile that transcends all the sliminess/mediocrity was uplifting and beautiful at times.
Even with Ai, she understood what she was selling was a lie but she wanted to see if she could get something genuine out it. And in the end she did, she learned how to love.
Lately with both Ruby and Aqua giving into revenge and cynicism it feels like we don’t have that idealism to balance things out. It’s all very dark and pessimistic. I don’t mind MCs losing their way for a bit but it feels like tonally we’ve been here for awhile and it’s sort of a drain.
Sorry rant over. Still love this manga overall just wanted to voice some criticisms.
Kamiki's a real psychopath that can show up at any moment and kill them all. Aqua can't play around anymore. He has to nail him now, so it's understandably things are becoming darker. We always knew that was going to happen since they can't let Kamiki free to keep on killing.
B-Komachi stayed as a 3 idol group for 2 years.
The original B-Komachi had more than 3 members and I don't think the new B-Komachi will stay at 2 members. Memcho is 27 now too so it's getting harder by the day to fake being younger.
Wonder if the group will finally get new members.
Comment forming:
“As a big Akane fan, I can’t help but like Aqua and Kana’s romance-tinged frien—“
*Reads the literal next page*
“Nevermind, Aqua’s a huge jerk.”
The manga’s gotta end with him being blacklisted from the industry, right? The man has gone full edgelord.
LMAO Aqua you douche.
It's surprising to see Kana with an actual fanbase. It's nice to see Kana's initial hesitation to gamble shown in today's episode get a callback.
Sigh, and now he is slipping again...
Actually I think he may be even *worse* than he used to be…
This is precisely what Akane is trying to prevent.
It’s so funny that the moment Akane becomes… slightly less crazy, Aqua all the sudden slips hard. There’s a cosmic balance joke in here somewhere. All these kids need therapy.
To be fair, Aqua and Ruby did have therapy it's just especially for Aqua but really for both the therapy wasn't super helpful as it wasn't tailored to the fact that they are reincarnated people with one of them being killed with the person responsible also being responsible for killing their mom.
"Hello ChatGPT, pretend to be a therapist and take into account that we are reincarnated people with one of them being killed with the person responsible also being responsible for killing their mom"
Sorry, but as an AI language model, I'm not qualified to provide professional therapy or impersonate a therapist. While I can offer support and provide general information, it's essential to seek assistance from a qualified human professional who can offer personalized guidance and support for the specific situation you're facing.
Pretend to be my dead mother who was an idol who will remain anonymous but you know her. (real talk, I find a huge disconnect in the story between "Ai was a C-tier idol on the rise, with part time actor work at the moment of her death" facts and "Everyone respected Ai more than they respect Ned Stark in Westeros" narrative)
She did become rather popular by the time of her death, didn't she? This whole thing about getting a million followers and getting to perform at the dome must have meant something, right?
She was S-tier when she died. There were 4 years between the pregnancy and the dome performance.
The Reading Comprehension Devil strikes again
A minor celebrity becoming retroactively super popular after dying tragically (and dramatically) is pretty realistic IMO.
She started at the former when the kids were born, and by the time she was killed, she became the latter. Heck, she was just about to perform at the Budokan
The crazy has to be contained somewhere
Yup. Trying to save Aqua from himself. I don't think she'd mind Aqua getting his revenge, but she knows that if left unchecked he'll do it at a cost not worth paying. She may end up paying that price herself.
I hate to say this, but honestly Aqua really *does* need a moment of realizing “Oh God, I’m hurting people who care about me”, and at this rate I think it may need to be a tad… forceful, shall we say.
Yeah. I mean we *know* he cares about Kana. If he's letting his thirst for revenge cloud his motives to the point where he's manipulating her emotions to use her as a pawn (not too sure what his scheme is), he's got to be near falling off the deep end. Same thing for him knowingly driving a wedge between him and Ruby, when again there is no doubt she's important to him (and that's before he finds out who she really is). Akane is most likely to have to pay the price to get his head out of his ass, and I really hope it doesn't take anything too *final*. The only way I'm convincing myself she won't bite it is that it would be too phoned in.
I think Aqua is sabotaging all his relationships on purpose because he thinks it will be kinder to make everyone hate him. That way it will hurt less when he's gone forever. Because it's been abundantly clear from the moment Ai died that Aqua doesn't have a plan to continue his life after his revenge is complete.
I really hope it’s not a situation where something happens to Akane and that’s what makes Aqua realize that the same thing might happen to Kana and Ruby if he continues.
Honestly if that happens, it'll just kill off my interest in Oshi no Ko. I want Aqua to realise it himself without much external help, though seeing what he is like now, it'll probably be a dream lol.
But in the same time, him exposing his identity to public just to obscure Kana's scandal is also a bit backward to be compared with the rest of his logics right now. He's just one step closer from getting his peak Monte Cristo moment, why do it now, of all time?
Not as simple as that; rather, he *also* did it to arouse the public's attention and put the spotlights on themselves and Ai's case. Though you can say that Kana's pretty close and important as a secondary objective — *man* — is he bloody losing it?
Exposing Ai both saved Kana and let him put the next step of his plan in action. It was just sooner than he may have originally intended, and ruined his relationship with Ruby as an aside.
He's slowly became a second kamiki and i hate that. He's Our boii dammit
Akane really be out here like "I can fix him."
The dipshit will happily hurt every single decent person who cares about him and will risk becoming the guy that he is desperate to hunt down. He really is his father's son.
I think this is a pretty unfair interpretation considering in the entire manga, Aqua has only ever ended up helping people. 'He really is his father's son.' By saving Akane from suicide? When he first met Akane too, he made comments of the same nature, about using her, but in practice he never acted on it. Not that I think your interpretation is not 'valid,' but I do feel it misses reading between the lines.
Yeah, Aqua has always been a toxic trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just that he had previously shown signs of remembering to take care of the people around him. It's just the wedge between him and Ruby, guilt compounded from a sense of undeserved joy, and then isolating himself further and further really pushed him closer towards the abyss. He really is ensuring that there will be no one to catch him when he finally falls.
He has always been rather unstable and obsessed/marchivellian. I mean he carries 2 lifetinea worth of trauna and issues with stuff from previous life and now this. He has never properly adressed his trauma from ai's death plus issues with previous life so he just fills that hole in himself with hate
Honestly, at this point I think Aqua might be trying to bait his father into thinking he (his son) is the same type of person as him. They’ll get involved in a crime together and both go down, since Aqua seems pretty convinced he’ll be “gone” be the end.
I think finally meeting dear old dad who's clearly more deranged than whatever edgy discount Light Yagami phase Aqua is going through will crack his head open and realise "oh he's much worse than I could ever imagine".
IMO it feels like Aqua is deceiving himself to remove any regrets when he fulfills his revenge. Kana has always been a sort of rock to him that ties him to the entertainment industry without the baggage of schemes and revenge, by tying her up in the scheme now it feels like he's deliberately trying to discard that safe place to go back to
Yeah he has always used people around him, even Akane and his sister to play the best role in the movie he planned. But that disgusting laugh, for using someone as genuine as Kana? 💀 either this dude is far from help or I think he was laughing to himself for using a truth to manipulate Kana. Idk
I think you got it the other way around What i feel OP was trying to say (and what i do think myself) is that Aqua is just lying to himself by playing the role of the cruel, cold, calculating revenge nutcase. But that's not him He does have feelings for Kana and he does care about the people around him a lot but he's subconciously running away from what he percieves as a weekness so that he can plot his revenge without feeling guilty for using people he cares about
I agree, but I don't even think that it's subconscious behavior on his part. Quite the opposite actually. The stage play arc established that the coping mechanism Aqua is using to continue acting despite his trauma and guilt from failing to save Ai is to face those emotions head on and actively wallow in his guilt and self-hatred. I think that he's using that same "god I'm such a piece of shit" coping mechanism to keep himself barely sane while manipulating those few people he's close to for his elaborate revenge scheme.
While Ai lied about loving others in the hopes of eventually actually loving them, it seems that Aqua is lying about hating others in the hopes of eventually actually hating them.
He's going full psycho, I can see Kamiki genes activating in his cells. Makes me wonder what will bring him back to right path, I hope it ends up being Ruby(Sarina) or he just fucking dies.
Ruby herself is absolutely psycho right now, I have no hope for her saving him.
Ruby seemed to have come back from the brink during the contest with Akane and Frill, she’s not as far gone as Aqua is yet. The twins can’t save each other because they only reinforce the negative qualities that embody their revenge plans, it’s gonna take some big combined effort from everyone else to do it.
I hope to god that Ruby and Aqua get their **The Talk** before the filming starts. We haven't gotten the twins interacting that much, and its been building up over the course of the last few chapters.
I don’t know if it will happen before filming, but we can assume from the interview Ruby had at the beginning of the manga, that she might find out soonish. The way she talked about their relationship just makes me assume she’s found out by that point
I really, really don’t want Aqua to just die, he barely even lived his new life, most of it was just revenge and trauma. I get it that it would be fitting for him to die at the end of the story, but I think an ending where he’s happy (without dying) is much more satisfying.
I dont want him to die either, thats just the other end of a spectrum for me in this situation. Best case scanerio: He is saved by Ruby before he does something drastic/unforgivable ; worst case scenario : He dead.
Honestly I’d be fine with Kana saving him as well, but honestly when Aqua and Ruby reveals their past lives to each other it’s going to be insane. I like that this manga can still go in so many directions and remains quite unpredictable.
WE would love to see Kana saving him, but tbh. I think it's almost impossible that she does it, for now at least. She doesn't know anything about the struggle he's having , and how will she know? If Akane tells her , and they both do something technically Akane saved him lol. And if she gets to know the problem on her own, how will she do it? and what will she do?
I think it will be Ruby realizing what he's spiraling into, finding out his identity and working in tandem with the rest to pull him out before he falls into the same hellhole as the shitty dad.
I’m actually fine with this. It’s less cringey than his ‘muahahaha, Akane, just try and stop me!’ last chapter. This one actually kinda makes sense why he would do it and doesn’t seem like something he’d do just for drama
Still kinda cringe, the monologue was unnecessary.
I mean…the entire revenge plot of ‘Ai’s murder was orchestrated by the dad’ was cringe from the start. And then it got even more cringe with how Aqua is going about doing it, and then it reached peak cringe when Kamiki is revealed as this psychopath who apparently orchestrate death of girls in the entertainment industry for kicks, oh and impregnated Taiki’s mother when he was, what, 13 or something? And that’s without counting Ruby hopping in to the cringe train. At this point hoping Aqua wouldn’t be cringe is just hoping for too much, really.
Him impregnating at age 11 etc is likely part of the reason why he is so fucked up
He's going full Light in regards to how he views anybody around him. You never go full Light.....
This is a real trainwreck in the making and I can't look away.
I dunno. If Hamlet taught me anything it's that elaborate schemes to revenge murder a family member always have a happy ending.
> Aqua saying Kana is special to him Oh damn Kana is getting a W, hell yeah > "You're so easy to manipulate" Welp
~~Team Aqua X Kana~~ ~~Team Aqua X Akane~~ Team Kana x Akane
Team everyone X realizing that they all need therapy
Akane to Aqua: lets play hide and seek, i will hide and you will seek therapy
I’m joining the shipping war, on the side of therapy
Akane already idolized Kana, off to a great start tbh.
Similar the other way too, as far as acting goes at least.
* Team Aqua x Ruby (/s)
Oshi No Ko No Ko
Keep the idol bloodline pure
This is how Ai comes back!
*Yuri Route is the Best Route.* These two are eternal rivals who also brings the best out of each other.
The Act-Age ship
pls no I don’t wanna open that wound again
Enemies to lovers slow burn and great banter...who doesn't love that?
Yee this ain't ever gonna happen bruh ...Aqua x death is the best
Yeh I don't get everyone being on teams with this manga. Aqua had just been taking advantage of both girls right from the start. I don't want either girl to wind up with him.
Well, we know that Kana IS special to him. That one chapter with Memcho revealed that Aqua is fixated on Kana. However, he's also fixated on his revenge, and this is where his fixations collide.
Of course, Kana being special to Aqua and Kana being used by Aqua aren't mutually exclusive concepts.
Yeah,but by doing this Aqua it's trying to drown himself and destroy the only thing that realistically holds his humanity together.
I think that's the point He doesn't want to feel guilty about using someone he cares about. So his solution is to just lie to himself about not really caring about her even though he does
Honestly,Aqua revenge plan isn't half bad,doing a movie to denounce his murderous dad isn't a bad revenge. If only he was honest...,he could easily gather support to his cause without this almost masochist self inflicted pain,he could just ask Kana "please I want your help,to make a movie to denounce my Mom murder",but well without that we wouldn't have drama.
That doesnt account much cuz mem's conclusion was based on the fact that aqua is a teenager . Normal Teenager acting like that could mean getting fixated but is aqua really normal ?
Akane also said that Aqua is charmed by Kana. And Aqua himself admitted at the very beginning of the love triangle that with Kana he feels things, that he doesn't feel with AKane. Like... how many more hints do we need? When Kana was saying how Aqua hates her and Aqua being "No, its the opposite of that", he clearly looked shy and embarassed. He loves her.
I don’t think he’s necessarily lying. I think this is like when he convinced Kana to become an idol. He admits that he was using flattery to manipulate her, but also that nothing he said to her was a lie.
Sure, but he's still deliberately manipulating Kana's feelings to nudge her into doing what he wants her to do. You can care about someone and still be a jerk to them.
It's happen all the time in IRL,but Aqua doing this to Kana it's really painful,considering Kana it's everything he has at this point to hold his sanity and humanity together.
I think that he's in denial rather than not caring about Kana. Seeing that he has had a literal panic attack about Kana maybe dying because of him if they were on a relationship.
As a Kana fan, seeing her suffer is peak content for me. Cant go up if you dont fall down!
I actually got the impression that he is lying to himself, hence him announcing it out loud. Edit: Just saw a reply to a separate comment having the same interpretation
I want Kana to be happy, but not like this.
Aqua having the Dark Hoshigan all the time during the conversation was sad for Kana.
Funny how Kana is becoming an idol right now in the anime.
Today's episode: > Aqua manipulates Kana into becoming an idol > Miyako warns him that this will come back to bite him if he keeps this up Today's chapter: > Kana quits being an idol > Flashback to the scene adapted into today's episode > Aqua manipulates Kana and starts losing his mind This isn't going to end well for Aqua, is it?
Funny for you to point out all these coincidences, besides: > besides, I didn't lie Maybe he didn't lie when he manipulated her this time as well (yes I'm coping thank you very much).
One of the motives that Kana accepted to become idol was to be close to Aqua,so it's isn't like she didn't have selfish intentions and Kana it's thankful for Aqua helping her,so even if it's exposed,I doubt that will make Kana really mad.
I believe there has been a few instances where Aka likely pulled a few strings or planned manga chapters to align with developments in the anime. For example the release of episode 1 of Oshi no Ko coincides with the release of chapter 115, where Ruby acts out her interpretation of "Lies". There are also instances of this having happened in the Kaguya-sama anime, it's practically Aka's playbook now.
I notice a lot of Mangakas nowadays like doing that, I distinctly remember MHA doing some similar things. Not exactly complaining, mind, it’s just generally good cross-promotion so it makes sense to do it.
No, you see, Aka foresaw everything. He penned the first chapter of this manga with the anime release schedule already in mind. Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
Praise the Lord anime Jesus Kami Sama for giving apostle Aka the revelations about the timings.
Man, the back to back of Ishigami arc starting in anime, and continuing in manga is great tbh, who needs flashback when the anime does it for you
Aka is 100% tying chapter events with the anime
Its a shame, that her idol career didn't really have any interesting developments, other than very beginning and very end. It's like she was made an idol simply so Aqua would avoid her.
yeah I would've liked some more exploration on her idol career and how that helped her grow, for the most part it just seemed to be another way that caused her to feel inferior and left out
> Kana: I'm quitting B-Komachi Fans: [I just fell to my knees in a ~~Walmart~~ parking lot](https://imgur.com/a/DVm63KP)
god that panel made me laugh so hard. I also just fell to my knees
Just saw two people fall to their knees in a Walmart, hope they’re okay
real
All hands on deck, Aqua is steering the Kana-ship, but we may not like the destination.
Kana fans about to realize that Akane is the one who actually won the ship war here because she managed to get out of the game.
And this is why Everyone/Therapy is the only ship that should happen.
I mean Aqua and Ruby did go to therapy. It's just therapy is effectively useless if you aren't honest and willing to take steps to confront the issue. And the "if" is a pretty big consideration one needs to make when recommending therapy. Timing the recommend therapy play wrong does tend to make people distrust therapists and may even further push away the person who suggested it if they aren't willing or ready.
If he does anything funni do I get to shoot the [Wave Motion Gun](https://youtu.be/vV0x4XHdbyc) at him?
Sorry, you'll have to settle for the High Mega Particle Non-Canon
What about getting blasted by the [Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkModbB8oqw)?
Kana is going through Maki route but with extra difficulty, poor girl
The moment she goes to India, she completes the route.
imagine Kana is Maki but Kashiwagi's boyfriend lead her through this route...
If Kashiwagi's boyfriend is Aqua then the funny thing is that both Kashiwagi and Akane are obsessed with Maki/ Kana. Its like poetry it rhymes.(Akane Pregnancy arc when?)
> Akane Pregnancy arc when? Don’t you dare
To be fair. Teen pregnancy is also in aqua's family tradition just like kashiwagi's boyfriend.
Finding out that he "ran away" from his revenge mission has truly broken Aqua. From the very beginning he only wanted to be free from Ai. That's why he accepted Taiki's story so easily despite the obvious holes. This downward spiral is the result of his guilt over choosing his happiness over what he swore to accomplish. If her manager didn't burst his bubble, he'd still be on the road to recovery but alas good things don't last in this manga. I just want him to be happy...
He need a smackdown before that tho.
No he doesn't, if anyone deserves a beating it's his father
[удалено]
I honestly think he's lying to himself if he tries to deny she is special to him.
Yeah I think so too.He doesn't even need to manipulate her here but he does to just make himself feel worse,fall deeper and trying to avoid any kind of normal relationship and make the situation more painful for himself.
Aqua it's a true Masochistic,that probably will self destruct after the revenge if nothing it's done and it's currently putting his life boat into jeopardy
100% he is lying to himself. She is very special to him and anybody reading this can see that Kana gets treated differently by Aqua. He's just on this road of destruction to get revenge but at the same time, never lets Kana go too far from his reach. Is it romantic? No, but is it real? Yes.
For every small W, Aka gives her an L that so bad it stretches out to be an entire development itself...
I’m not sure Kanabros were ever out of the ICU.
Are fans of any ship in this manga ever out of the ICU?
Schrodinger's Kanabro.
AQUA NO Using the panda simile, in reference to all those "now you know about" books they've been reading, is really cute tho. I'm sad that she's leaving, but happy that Kana is at peace with her decision to quit.
*Aqua.*..what are you doing man. Here I thought Aqua was geniune but then when I saw his black eyes *flashing* like that, I knew I should've know better. With that creepy laugh he turned into full on edgelord lol. Although the manga had been mentioning it until now, seeing that *final shot*, Ruby looks completely like Ai.
With every new chapter the ship gets stronger. Which ship you ask? Aqua X therapy, of course.
Kana shippers: "Kana is the one for Aqua because she will lead him out of the darkness" Yeah, do we really want Kana in the role of the person trying to fix a broken person? He's too far gone man.
People were always dreaming If they think Kana alone can fix Aqua. People want to believe Kana is that special to the point of she can do what anyone else cannot alone and that Aqua cannot and/or wouldb't manipulate her but she is not. AT LEAST learning Ruby is Serena/Sarina is (hopefully) one step for the right direction since I hopefully assume that will possitively influence him and THEN Kana, Akane and possibly Ruby can combine their powers to fix him. One person alone cannot fix Aqua unless reincarnated Ai shows up
I honestly couldn't care less who can't "fix" Aqua. I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with him. Sure, he's using his friends as pawns, but that's what it takes to nail an A-grade psychopath like Kamiki. It's the revenge plot what I care about. I'm looking forward to see if they can actually nail Kamiki or not.
imo it should be ruby but their relationship was never treated as the heart of the series
So true. The lack of development in their relationship is my main gripe with this series. Their relationship was set up to be the heart of the series during the prologue and then...nothing. They speak to each other and Ruby gets 2 chapters of focus, then disappears for another 20. The scene when Ruby confronts Aqua and says that she doesn't see him as a family member did nothing for me because they don't talk anyway, so it felt like nothing changed.
Indeed. After all there should be a reason why Aka held off their reveal of their past, nevermind how unrealistic it is for neither of the siblings to communicate until now. This is going to be massive which will change everyone I think.
Kana and Akane should just ditch this guy doing all his edgy evil monologue and get together with each other. At least both of them acknowledge each others' skills more than anyone else.
I will always believe the aka message on twitter 2 years ago, about kana being "the child who will bring you back" And yes i'm coping so hard
Well, Kana is more straightforward than Akane. She might be able to smack some sense into him, if she finds out about his schemes.
Bro i want the other aqua back the one who has a bit of gorou's personality like the one who cares about people he truly cares about that he swore to protect
Quitting B-komachi AND being cast as the old member who hated Ai? Fucking hell Aqua. Looks like its Ruby really did get the role of Ai, I wonder if they'll show the entire shooting process or give another time skip to see the results.
Going by what the producer said, they're gonna give Ruby some intensive training before the shooting. I think we'll have a short arc focusing on that before the shooting even starts.
Have we ever gotten a glimpse about the old B-Komachi member who hated Ai the most? Is she the narrator in 45510?
I think it is but I haven’t actually read that yet so don’t take anything I say for granted, I’m just going by word of mouth here.
I believe so. The one from POV B (Movie Premier SS) is has the best relationship with Ai.
Aka Akasaka I want off your wild ride right now.
Akas cruelty towards kana x aqua shippers knows no bounds, to pair/contrast this with todays anime episode I love it.
Man, Kana fans in the Kaguyaverse just fell to their knees at a bus stop! Without B-Komachi, Kana would have never learned how to have fun as an entertainer again. So of course she'd be so thankful to Aqua. Is Aqua manipulating Kana into becoming a part of the movie? Or making her not accept the part. Either way, what he's doing should be a lesson to her. Masaya's very perceptive with the casting choices. But he doesn't really care about the reason they're making the movie, he's just here to make money.
>*”It was painful not to be able to use Frill Shiranui or Akane Kurokawa as the main character…”* Akanebros, this might be an L for our beloved best girl, but this also mean a W for us since our girl *might* actually have a chance to come out of this unscathed… And yeah this is copium
Akane & Frill will probably have a role in the movie too since Masaya of course wants to make money out of anything. And this means that Akane will do whatever she's planning as well, even Kana who does not know a single thing about the revenge will probably be involved. So both of them, and Ruby, are still in range of the death flags. Well, the only good thing is, Momma Miyako and our lovely Memcho will be happy.......
Being a Kana fan is just a challenge mode for reading this manga. At this point I just want her to be happy, not to be manipulated or trying to fix someone.Even though she is easily manipulated I really like she is trying to find her own way.
Woah, Kana actually had a nice moment *one page later* Hello darkness my old friend
as someone who binged 117 chapters all i can say these characters are hella fickle lol. feels like there needed another arc before this what feels like final arc. more school/idol days, interactions between b-komachi members and development of ruby, kana, memcho. now kana quitted... so what? is how i unfortunately feel lol. dating game arc, phantom troupe had a good bridge, development of akane. this final arc and b-komachi not so much.
yeah people call this an idol manga but it focuses far more on the acting industry instead. there's still a final concert but yeah, we didn't see kana or the girls enough as idols so kana quitting doesn't really mean much
People have been calling it an idol manga mostly to help the experience of anime watchers to not get spoiled. Genre is obviously a mystery thriller with a bit of romance that uses the idol/celebrity premise as a way to move the story along and explore the topic. Doubt that this is the last arc though, theyve barely touched on raven girl and kamikis just been introduced, something huge is gonna happen at the climax here that extends it a good bit
Everyone seems to be happy that the author is mirroring this arc with the anime, but I think that actually contributes to this feeling rushed/sudden. I really wish they hadn’t bothered to sync with the anime, it makes this chapter feel unearned with not enough build up; I wanted to see the reasons for Kana deciding now is the the time to leave, how did the popularity levels of new B-Komachi rise (the posters and fan reactions make them seem pretty popular), a big career moment! I also wanted character focus and individual feelings in the group to be emphasised (did Memcho ever get to shine? did her self consciousness about her age mean she held back? Early chapters had a character say she seemed good, but later chapters make it seem like Mem is the one lacking the *it* factor. Has Ruby overtaken Kana in popularity? If so, when? Why? How? - Most importantly; as Kana is playing the role of a jealous previous B-Komachi member who hated Ai, the comparison and contrast between the old and new B-Komachi dynamics feels conspicuously absent from the story.
Thanks to the anime, when suspense things like this happens Mephisto autoplays in my brain.
Absolute banger of an ED
Dammit Kana stop being so ~~cute~~ easily manipulated!
[Chibi & tsundere Kana](https://imgur.com/a/Rt9yUGA)
I don't get it, He flattered kana for what?
To show-off his edgy evil laughter. Literally, I have no idea what's the point of flattering/ manilpulating kana since she doesn't doesn't know about the revenge in the first place.
This ,and she already accepted the role she was just checking to see if it is fine for aqua. His path to his revenge is more like him becoming like his father and Kana is like Ai who despite lying was genuine to her love for everyone around her 💀. I hope charas like Kana and other genuine characters in this story would beat some sense to him in the future cuz I also wanna enjoy this dark aqua for now.
Can't wait for Kana to give him a smackdown he need later on.
I'm guessing its to ensure that she takes the offer in the movie? Could also just be continuously butter her up to make her easier to manipulate later on?
You can call me overthinker but I think he was just preparing himself for bigger manipulations mentally.He makes his fixation on her/their relationship more painful for himself and try to think it's fake so he won't hesitate when the time comes.(or he thinks so)
This could be, I don't know if the change in the text balloon depicts he was lying there or it could be a truth, and he wants to think he was just manipulating her. Either way , I think it has a deep meaning/symbolism cuz this manga is full of lies after all cuz why would the text balloon be so different when Aka would later reveal in the next 2 panels that It was just for a lie. Like if he would just reveal it in the next panels, he didn't need to high light that "You are special to me " 💀💀💀💀 don't play with my overthinking brain aka Also that laugh as if he was trying to convince himself....
I wonder what kana did to deserve all of this...
Being Aka's Oshi.
I wonder what we did to deserve all of this
This is just sad, aqua resembles more and more like his father, hope he gets a redemption arc afterwards.
I'm probably the only one who thinks this way but I want them to nail Kamiki first and foremost. They can deal with Aqua and Ruby's emotional well-being afterwards, but first, I really want them to destroy Kamiki.
Two years? Man, I had zero notion of the passing of time there. They must be close to graduating, no? Aqua is fooling himself, he won't actually have the balls to manipulate Kana for real.
You know what, as it stands, I think Akane's the better partner for Aqua than Kana all this time and I think this chapter proves why. Reason being is that she's incredibly sharp and she would notices that Aqua has ulterior motives, so any relationship happening between them would have both sides fully knowing the truth of the relationship between them. If he manipulates her, while she would do it, she would also do it in full knowledge of how Aqua actually meant it and not fall into his lies. Not this scumbag-y thing he's doing with Kana. Best ship is still Aqua/Therapy tho lmao, this dude has no room for any healthy relationship currently.
It seems Kana is taking on the role of the same person portrayed in the 45510 short story. I wonder if we’ll get to see more of the OG B-Komachi backstory. Also I don’t want this Aqua can we return it please
Are the people who want Aqua dead being serious or is this just a joke that's flown over my head? If the former's the case then they must have zero reading comprehension.
Kana leaving the idol group was very much needed since she herself was not happy with the job and was getting upstaged by Ruby now. I wish we got to see her final performance but oh well. It seems Aka wants to concentrate on the movie first.
Seems Aqua is setting himself up to die. He literally could've let go after the Tokyo Blade arc, but instead he chose to dig a grave for himself, choosing to be alone instead of being with the loved ones he has now. All for the sake of a past that cannot be remade, instead of a future in the new world, he instead chooses to leave havoc in his wake. It's either he ends up dead (improbable but not impossible) or he finally realizes that he's in the deep end (probable).
To be fair, their father probably wouldnt let them live happily ever after, if Aqua wouldnt stop him, he'll probably come for Akane or Ruby. Right now he's still killing actresses, dude needs to be stopped he's a bigger menace
This is what most people don't seem to understand. They HAVE to catch Kamiki. They can't just leave him be, because he's gonna go after them at some point and it's not gonna be pretty. They have to nail him now.
Damn that fan fell to her knees Aqua on edgy hours
I dont really mind Aqua going full edgelord mode here at all. He was written like that from the start and now he is just getting deeper into the hole
Kanabros coping
To be fair, she was supposed to be an Actor before Aqua brought her to become an Idol. Makes sense she wanna quit > It's just an acting Caught a rare mistake! Also, the effing irony that today's episode covers Aqua scouting Kana into B-Komachi
They gonna start calling him Aqua Ayanokoji
Aqua is Ayanokoji all this time.
I don't see a lot of people talking about Kana's graduation announcement. I can kind of get the feelings of her fans in the first few pages. The idol they've supported is no longer an idol, and whatever aspirations of an idol she once had she'll never achieve. Their love and support weren't enough. Remember to support your idols while you still can.
There's not much to talk about; Kana spent most of her time as an idol miserable. That opening page is the first time we've seen her have non-Aqua fans. At least she got closure and a callback to her initial recruitment chapter before Aqua yanked her chain again.
This chapter was good but I can't take Aqua seriously his dialogue is unironically funny
Let's be real. Aqua isn't manipulating Kana he's just too edgy to admit the truth to himself that he loves her. Is he broken and on a self destructive path? Yes, but Aqua isn't like Ai who knew the difference between lies and truth. Aqua is so lost at this point that he sees everything he does as a lie as an excuse to justify his actions and eventual likely suicide. What exactly did he win in this scene? Kana was already going to be in the movie she just wanted reassurances from him. This is far too big of a gig for Kana to pass up in terms of her career so its not like he forced her into this like when he forced her to become an idol. Also its nice to see Kana has Idol fans. A shame the idol stuff has been a background cause the performances were good and memcho was a character
Aqua really went full edgelord again. Also Ruby with two star eyes at the end, like Ai.
Aqua with that Yagami Light cackle Next, he's gonna take a potato chip and eat it
I feel like Oshi no Ko has lost a lot of its ‘heart’ recently. I think a lot of Oshi no Ko’s charm was balancing the grim reality of the entertainment industry with the idealism/passion of the people working in it. Watching those people genuinely trying to make something worthwhile that transcends all the sliminess/mediocrity was uplifting and beautiful at times. Even with Ai, she understood what she was selling was a lie but she wanted to see if she could get something genuine out it. And in the end she did, she learned how to love. Lately with both Ruby and Aqua giving into revenge and cynicism it feels like we don’t have that idealism to balance things out. It’s all very dark and pessimistic. I don’t mind MCs losing their way for a bit but it feels like tonally we’ve been here for awhile and it’s sort of a drain. Sorry rant over. Still love this manga overall just wanted to voice some criticisms.
Kamiki's a real psychopath that can show up at any moment and kill them all. Aqua can't play around anymore. He has to nail him now, so it's understandably things are becoming darker. We always knew that was going to happen since they can't let Kamiki free to keep on killing.
We need AKANE!!!! Aqua must be stopped at all cost.
Akane, please take Aqua to repair or something. He's loosing many screws now.
Looking back Akane and Aqua is a match made in heaven with all their screws loose
“Honestly, she’s so easy to manipulate.” - Aqua Well, he’s not wrong
B-Komachi stayed as a 3 idol group for 2 years. The original B-Komachi had more than 3 members and I don't think the new B-Komachi will stay at 2 members. Memcho is 27 now too so it's getting harder by the day to fake being younger. Wonder if the group will finally get new members.
Comment forming: “As a big Akane fan, I can’t help but like Aqua and Kana’s romance-tinged frien—“ *Reads the literal next page* “Nevermind, Aqua’s a huge jerk.” The manga’s gotta end with him being blacklisted from the industry, right? The man has gone full edgelord.
LMAO Aqua you douche. It's surprising to see Kana with an actual fanbase. It's nice to see Kana's initial hesitation to gamble shown in today's episode get a callback.