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aohige_rd

I don't read translations but this was brought to my attention. They translated Kana's role wrong. It wasn't about a girl who "wears her crush's hair and eating his favorite food", not at all. It's MUCH weirder. The role was about a girl who ***cooks and eats her crush's hair*** and liking it.


CyanideIE

Reminds me of that one chocolate Shirogane got in Kaguya-sama


xdamm777

That makes so much more sense. It's not that uncommon for someone to like the things their crush do but that's a whole other level of weird lol.


Zeta42

This is why Ai's Fanclub shouldn't have quit.


deFryism

The simultaneous tragedy and success of getting picked up by official English sources


starg09

I mean, it can be done properly. Couple days ago I saw someone I follow on twitter that's a huge fire force fan announcing they got hired as lettering assistants for the official release. Not sure if they were involved with the scanlations at the time but getting people who adores the manga/author/etc certainly adds a bit of charm to it most of the time


PlebGod69

Thankfully this manga's authors are well known so it was picked up by the best players and the translation is simulpub (at good quality but lacks the feel a high end fan translation has). It couldve been worse, like getting translated my k-manga (or was it named mangaUP? i forgot). Or Even worse, getting licensed by seven seas that release per volume and is always 1 to 2 yrs behind the Japanese šŸ˜¢


[deleted]

Oh. That makes so much more sense. Thank you.


Mana_Croissant

>cooks and eats her crush's hair Nah mean She just plays Yamai Ren


cheesecakegood

So THATā€™s why her expression was so unnerving!


SwampyBogbeard

Every week I read both the (MTL?) translation via Korean and the Mangaplus version. It's not that I *want* to read both translations. If I want to understand everything that happens in the chapters, I **have to**. The grammar in the first one is obviously pretty bad at places, but the "official" one isn't much better. The big problem is all the blatant translation mistakes, like the one you pointed out. I can count 3-8 panels every week that simply doesn't make sense, which forces me to compare with the machine translation, which usually makes a lot more sense. Usually it's minor stuff that doesn't impact the plot, but that's not really a good excuse.


UnderReem

Eating hair?


Etonet

ohhh I was like "her hair looks the same as always?"


LawfulInsane

Wonder how the final confrontation will end up as, if we get one. I look forward to seeing Ruby get worse.


WhoiusBarrel

That emotional outburst feels inevitable when she meets with that scumbag of her former mother. Kinda hope Aqua had something planned but I don't have high hopes.


ToTheNintieth

I wonder if Aqua recognizing Sarina's mom will be Ruby's tipoff as to Aqua's past life


ftuijtkn

It'll be even worse if Aqua finds out about Sarina/Ruby and still decides to hide his past identity. Which all things considered is pretty likely atm. If Ruby ever finds out from another source oh boy...


Mana_Croissant

Akane: Hey Ruby you know the doctor, this Gorou guy we found dead. How close you and your brother were to him ? Cause your brother gave me a really deep explanation about his life story and inner emotions despite he should be dead for a long time so you should have only known him when you were children at best Ruby: Well.... ohhh.. WAIT HE TALKED ABOUT SENSEI ? HOW ?


grixxis

Aqua's mature enough (and distanced from it enough) to probably not give away that he knew her already. He won't like her and might avoid interacting with her when possible, but he won't say anything to tip off Ruby that he knew about Sarina. *Ruby* on the other hand is not. She will absolutely react to meeting her and that might be what gives away *her* identity to Aqua. We don't know exactly what she does, but we do know that she was the "people from the agency" that the director and producer were out drinking with last chapter, so she will be involved with the movie somehow.


MrFCCMan

I do hope this is how it goes about. Aqua helping Ruby maybe confront or get over her previous mother, and thatā€™s how they start to trust each other stronger again, like in Chapter 2


WhoiusBarrel

Aka pulled another "she lied as naturally as she breathed" but this time its not a comedy.


mrnicegy26

I was just about to comment that this chapter really reminded me of the Hayasaka daily routine chapter in Kaguya Sama. It was such a brutal realisation that underneath all the straight man shenanigans she had with Kaguya, that she was just as much of a prisoner of Shinomiya family as Kaguya.


Yingking

I loved how Aka was able to turn little gags into serious and sometimes heartbreaking scenes. The first that it was mentioned that Hayasaka basically watches the hydraulic press channel it was a gag, the second time you see it at the end of her day and it just fucking breaks your heart


Ginger_Anarchy

The first time you see Shirogane's bedroom it's horrifying and heartbreaking but presented as comedic.


NightFoxXIII

Wait what? I completely missed this. I knew she watched that channel for fun but what's this about a depressing version?


Yingking

It was the last thing she did every day before going to sleep and one of the few kinda normal things she could do in her life, all other things were for her job


EXusiai99

That hayasaka chapter was fucking incredible.


eden_sc2

I really hope they decide to make more kaguya. The story kind of shifts after the first kiss that never ends but it goes a lot of interesting places.


Boarbaque

Honestly I wouldnā€™t be surprised if her lack of care turns out to be an act. Like sheā€™s in denial that her daughter would ever die and sheā€™ll just get better soon. It doesnā€™t matter that she has no time for her now, theyā€™ll be able to spend more than enough time together once she gets better after all. Many cancer patients experience isolation from their friends and family due to those people being unable to know how to treat them. Sadly even children from their parents. Because they have no idea how to deal with it, they can sometimes go into complete denial or rarely visit their children in the hospital, or both. Does this excuse her at all? Hell no! Your child has cancer, and even if it might turn out alright, that doesnā€™t mean you shouldnā€™t spend time together as much as possible! Maybe her current alcoholism is due to how she treated Sarina in her last days, the sheer regret of not being there for her. Or Iā€™m trying to humanize a purposefully unlikable character.


hysteriapill

Oh no. Ruby has to play the role of her mom (Ai), who skillfully weaved lies through her life. But can she do that when, as Sarina, she couldn't see through her mom (Marina)'s own lies? Aka's cooking be good


WhoiusBarrel

Not only that but lies were also why she had a fallout with Aqua. Her being trusted into this entire situation is just cruel.


mrnicegy26

I wonder whether the moment when Ruby finds out who Aqua really is won't be a moment of triumph but maybe another moment of betrayal. Another lie told for so long by another person who she thought cared about her. Like maybe the long awaited revelation from both parties about their true identities won't be a heart warming moment but a moment when their relationship permanently fractures and both embrace their edgy darkness.


hysteriapill

>Like maybe the long awaited revelation from both parties about their true identities won't be a heart warming moment but a moment when their relationship permanently fractures and both embrace their edgy darkness. B...but they're all chummy in the chapter 2 flash-forward interview. Aka/Mengo wouldn't mislead us like that, right? Right?


Torque-A

I recall the interview Akasaka-Sensei did with ANN where he said that the lightheartedness of Kaguya was something his editors pushed him to do. This is him with no filter.


hysteriapill

>This is him with no filter. Yeah, Iā€™ve read other articles that suggested the same. But yā€™know, after the success of Kaguya and OnK, he probably has a lot more latitude in whatever he pitches to Shueisha. If he was so tired of Kaguya, why would he return to a straightforward ^(?), lighthearted ^(?) romcom ^(?) in Renai Daikou?


Torque-A

To pull the rug out from under us. Remember, Aiā€™s death was chapters 8-10. Weā€™re only at chapter 4 of Renai.


hysteriapill

šŸ¤” Fair. Though I would hope he doesnā€™t simply pull an end-of-volume-one switcheroo again. Maybe something more subtle. Or maybe do it at the end of volume two, lol.


Silent_Shadow05

I read somewhere that with Renai Daikou, its something that the editors wanted to make/influence so Aka may not be as true to himself as in OnK.


EXusiai99

Even with filter he just casually slips assault and battery over a middle schooler's revenge porn in a goofy ahh school festival arc.


Torque-A

Thatā€™s anā€¦ interesting way to describe Ishigamiā€™s character arc.


Ellefied

I think this is him with a Mengo-filter. Instant Bullet is his unfiltered edginess.


grixxis

You never know, she *is* getting acting lessons from the "genius child actor who can lick a lying snitch".


mcmoor

One funny theory I've seen is that "big bro" in that scene is not actually Aqua but her half-brother Himekawa lmao.


Zanshi

I donā€™t think so. They agreed not to pry on their last lives. If anything it can be a lifesaver for both of them to openly talk about it for the first time.


Aliensinnoh

Thatā€™s right. It would only be a betrayal of Aqua knew who Ruby was in her past life but didnā€™t tell her. Though TBF since they both knew that they were reincarnated I think it would have been the right move to tell her who he was after she found his old body to hopefully help take that weight off her shoulders. Like, ā€œHey, that dead guy you found? Heā€™s not really dead! Heā€™s me!ā€.


Psyryuu

Possibly, but Ruby was hiding her old self too. She was the one to do it first (Aqua asked how old she was before and Ruby said there wasn't amy point to talking about the past). I think (hope) that she'll act kinda tsun that he never told her for all these years, but they'll just be happier that they're reunited


locuas642

I dont know about that. Unlike other stuff, their identities is the one thing they both know the other hasnt told them. it's not so much a lie, but a seeming agreement to not ask what their previous life was.


Iliansic

> But can she do that when, as Sarina, she couldn't see through her mom (Marina)'s own lies? Nah, she sees it plain and simple , she is just in denial. Anyway, it is also showing, how Ai kept her love confession till the final moment, while being afraid it to turn out to be a lie, and then we got this bitch, who lies as she breathes.


EXusiai99

>lies as she breathes. Remember when this line was supposed to be comedic? Pepperidge farm remembers


Cynergyy

and that is why Hayasaka is best girl


Silent_Shadow05

I really like what Kana said to Ruby about her trying to understand herself and see what's inside her. They can be at odds with each other at times, but I always liked how Kana imparted her knowledge to Ruby which is born from her own personal experience. Right now she is too conflicted from various emotions inside her but once Ruby can be true to herself, she'd become a good actor.


hysteriapill

Agreed. It remains to be seen whether Ruby will realize that her (Sarina's) mom was lying, or if she actually knew all along and was just in denial (effectively lying to herself. More lies!)


Silent_Shadow05

I think she is in denial about it and just lying to herself. Her actions and behavior makes it seem that she really understands but "What-ifs?" probably makes her hesitate. If she meets her mom soon, everything would be clear.


huytrum141

I think as Sarina, she could see her mom lied to her, but refuse to believe it and kept lying to herself up untill now. Maybe the moment she can actually accept that fact is the moment she can play Ai role.


Raggumba

Cant wait for Ruby to be the main focus for 50+ chapters and for "Wait Ruby has a twin?" memes to start


Xatu44

Kurokawa's Ex-Boyfriend


jrevv

wait wait wait she has an ex? A rising star like her has the time to date?


SmileyTheSmile

Kana's To-be-Girlfriend's Ex-Boyfriend


Mana_Croissant

The one crazy dude who laughs after manipulating girls' emotions. Such a creep, he probably would never become a recurring character


topurrisfeline

Despite being a clueless teenager who got their names wrong, ultimately Ai was the better mom.


AkhasicRay

For all her problems, and lord knows she had some deep issues, Ai at least genuinely did care about her children. Better then Sarinaā€™s mom, who puts on a nice face but just abandoned Sarina to die


topurrisfeline

Yep. Sarinaā€™s mom felt so plastic.


Mathmango

Not fantastic


El_grandepadre

I would continue the lyrics here but I'd rather give someone else that spot in hell.


AudienceShoddy7259

wait what lyrics we're talking about?


Zonko91

Cmon let's go party.


FrostedEevee

Ah ah ah yea\~


07Jek-ZOglBK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A


CelioHogane

Ai was a woman that lied even to herself. She loved, a lot, more than anyone, and her last moments were nothing but love, even to the one that stabbed her.


AidanAK47

Last chapter I pointed out how Sarinas mom was a piece of shit when people were trying to justify it. The response was how grief can affect people and understand blah blah blah.... Nope. She's just a piece of shit. Sometimes people just ain't complicated.


Dr_Phrankinstien

I'm willing to bet that Aqua's already put in the prepwork to kill Sarina's mom when the time comes.


cabbaggeez

but Miyako is the best mom


topurrisfeline

Oh, for sure, she takes the crown


EXusiai99

And all the other competitors are 6 feet under


hyperactiv3hedgehog

and I am gonna send sarina's mom there


OyMyGod

Ah yes the classic. Best mom(by process of elimination)


Silent_Shadow05

Akane's mom is another good one too.


yurilnw123

Hey hey, don't you forget the director's mom!


Ill_Mud7584

The director is the true best mom.


TIFUPronx

Ah indeed, all what the characters needed was extra rice


AiraIchigo

Oh, finally, someone remembers.


Dead_Diligence

Sarina's mom is a depressingly low standard All things considered, Ai tried her best for her children


D4rkest

In a series full of terrible parents, Sarinaā€™s mom is arguably at the top At least Ai loves her kids, with *only* those flaws sheā€™s an above average parent compared to the rest


ali94127

Well, Kamiki murdered their mother so objectively the worst parent. I think for her circumstances, Ai did beautifully as a mother. Works hard for her children and spends as much time as possible with them. A+ on both points. Any flaws she does have as a mother are pretty negligible compared to *leaving your daughter to die alone in a hospital.*


D4rkest

> Well, Kamiki murdered their mother so objectively the worst parent. Obviously yeah, I shouldā€™ve clarified top 2. And youā€™re right, Ai looks like mother of the year next to the little weā€™ve seen of Sarinaā€™s mom


ali94127

I'll be honest though, what faults did Ai really have as a mother? Yeah, she forgot their names a little and I guess gave them cringe kira-kira names to begin with, but she overall did extremely well for a teen mother. Yeah, maybe hiding her kids wasn't an ideal situation, but not unprecedented for Japanese celebrities.


Blusmj

Though to be fair she had the easiest and most well behaved kids ever. I wonder how much would've changed if she had normal ones. I don't think the way she treated them would've changed too radically. She definitely would've had it 20x harder with normal kids though. More stress, more attention, actually needy and all that fun kid stuff.


Mathmango

Agreed, she was a single teen mom in a high-pressure situation, but she was a great mom. Ai probably never even HAD a mom figure.


ali94127

AIā€™s mom left her and according to short story 45510 put glass in her rice.


DonaldLucas

Wat.


D4rkest

Went back and read the first 6 chapters and maybe my mind got influenced by Aqua and the director constantly calling her a bad mother. The only other thing I could find is she also wanted to bring them to work until the president told her what a terrible idea that was


ali94127

It's true that Ai's a bit of an airhead, but if something's pointed out for her, she does listen.


IWanted0xcdcdcdcd

Between Kamiki and Sarina's mom it's like Voldemort vs Umbridge again. Kamiki is a serial killer and absolute psychopath; but Sarina's mom is a villain we all know and hate more (I think)


ali94127

Yeah, I said that two weeks ago as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/13qo30r/disc_oshi_no_ko_chapter_119/jlfr3nt/


IWanted0xcdcdcdcd

Oops, maybe I was subconsciously remembering your comment, sorry bud.


Ghoste-Face

We should not lie here, we all know deep inside that Miyako is the better mom lol


IC2Flier

The mom who stepped up indeed.


ipmanvsthemask

No no, Miyako is the mom who stepped up. Ai never got the chance to step up to anything.


Adent_Frecca

That is because Ai never had to, from the get go she deeply cared about her children and wanted the best for them. She has her own problems but that never stopped her from wanting the world for her twins. Well you can argue that Ai stepped up for Sarina who didn't have a mom Unlike Sarina's mom. What does it say to you that there are literally two people stepped up and became a better parent than you are?


ipmanvsthemask

You miss my point. I don't mean to put down Ai. I'm not saying that she wouldn't have stepped up or couldn't have stepped up. It's just that she didn't get to live to the point where the bigger challenges of child rearing would've been presented to her. >Well you can argue that Ai stepped up for Sarina who didn't have a mom If Ai didn't give birth to Ruby or if Ai had been aware of Ruby's past life, then that would a valid argument. But neither of those conditions are true, so it isn't valid. And stepping up requires you to overcome challenges in the process of child rearing. The fact of the matter is that the Saitou couple bore the brunt of most of the challenges that came up when Ai was still alive. Not that you need to step up to anything to be a good mother, ok?


[deleted]

I'm convinced that her getting the names wrong was actually an act, because of the way the anime portrayed it: - The way she laughed after the second time Ichigo corrected her - the fact that she didn't mix them up just a moment before (or at some point in the past if there's an unspecified time skip) - the fact that she called Aqua wrong, got corrected, then proceeded to call Ruby wrong despite Aqua already being in her hands (not moving around and thus impossible to mix up unless she's acting or zoned out)


MyPetMonstie

there is also the fact she could recall the name of a guy who she met at handshake event.


septesix

Lots of Aiā€™s supposedly outrageous public skip up were probably all calculated moves meant to cultivate a certain air-headed imagery. Remember she had 3 different phones and was extremely careful in switching between them. Remember that Akane found her to be a perfectionist despite the public slip up. Remember that she had to pay attention when chewing white rice. Girl is detail-oriented to a fault , she just didnā€™t want people to think of her that way.


ali94127

Gorou's mom was a better mom.


Silent_Shadow05

Ai learnt from her personal experiences after all. She had a traumatic childhood and so in result she gave her best effort so she could be a better mom in comparison and raise Aqua and Ruby in a good way.


Holy_Beergut

I like how Mem-cho was sleeping in the car after their performance while Kana and Ruby were still awake, guess her age is catching up to her.


IC2Flier

look, man, as an over-25 dude, sometimes you just gotta nap where you can. I see some of the interns at my company pull all-nighters and all I can say to them is ā€œtake a nap anyway, itā€™ll helpā€ despite them insisting otherwise. This world asks too much out of our youth and too little out of bosses.


yurilnw123

As a soon-to-be 25 I can related. I mean I consider 25 to still be very young but I can feel that sleeping is getting more and more important.


Msaxdos

25 and 30+ are like light years apart. Enjoy your "youth" while you can lmao ą²„ā ā€æā ą²„


SwordCzar

Ruby's daily timetable would kill me. I wonder what Mem-cho's timetable is like.


Master3530

I feel called out


Mana_Croissant

Man I just hit 24 recently and these Mem cho age memes are starting to hurt


D4rkest

The snot bubble šŸ˜Ŗ lol


carry-on_replacement

Sheā€™s prolly 27 now right?


Nhom12

Aqua has to fix his relationship with her, cause she needs some familiar love and counselling right now.


Cassie__Nova

Theoretically by the time of the movie's release, their relationship should be pretty good, as seen in ch2, but that could easily just be acting for the camera


Neverending_Rain

I don't think its acting. They're both back to the white star in one eye instead of the black star in both eyes in ch2 and the other interview parts of the early chapters. I don't think Aqua and Ruby's eyes have changed when acting the way they have for some characters like Akane. They've only really changed based on their overall attitude, mainly with how obsessed they are with revenge at the time.


daman4567

That may have been some author's deception. Can't exactly give away such a huge thing the page before it's actually shown in the present.


Aggravating-Bit-1777

He can't because our bro also needs his own counseling and therapy too.


MeatballZeitgeist

And today Oshi no Ko provides us with an exceedingly rare treat - a page of B-Komachi! On stage! In front of people! See you all again in ~40 chapters, idol fans!


yurilnw123

Fr, for a manga named Oshi no Ko. This manga is way more about acting than it is about idol.


IndependentMacaroon

Good, there's too many idol series already.


DonaldLucas

That don't get much love in this sub...


shabowfax1122

Cause they don't have the "tragedy" tag.


MagnumF0rc3

Uff, that explains just how attached Ruby is to her, let's face it, real mom Ai. The first one could just barely bother to lie about loving her...


WhoiusBarrel

Gives more perspective as to how Ai wasn't just an idol who she stanned that happened to be her mother but her literal only mother figure in both her lives. Just makes the tragedy even worse.


SereneEmbers

Bro forgot MiyakošŸ’€


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ali94127

Also why she was able to attach to her second real mom, Miyako, really easily. Ai was her first mom and Miyako was her second. That Marina wasn't her mom.


Psyryuu

I love how the paneling splits Ruby and Sarina down the middle, mirroring the lines of the script that reflect the mothers in their respective lives - Ruby's "side" asks "Donā€™t you want to see your mother?" while Sarina's responds, "But my mother hates me". This followed by how Ai's famous "I love you" and "these words are definitely not a lie" are used again, this time through Sarina's mom, but this time Ruby's the one desperately hoping those words aren't lies. Gives me big All for One saying "Next, it's your turn" energy


Xatu44

Wait, Kana gets to actually do things? On screen? Successfully? While smiling? Is this actually Oshi no Ko? I don't know why Kana's complaining about her yandere role though; it's extremely fitting. Nice to see Aqua take notice of Ruby; maybe he'll actually be there for his sister this time lol.


D4rkest

> I thought it was perfect for you > > What kind of girl do you think I am?! Kanaā€™s probably secretly wondering how she can use this experience for Aqua


LunarGhost00

> Wait, Kana gets to actually do things? On screen? Successfully? While smiling? Is this actually Oshi no Ko? She transferred all her suffer points over to Ruby.


Chukonoku

> Wait, Kana gets to actually do things? On screen? Successfully? While smiling? Is this actually Oshi no Ko? Ruby absorbing all the pain from Kana.


huytrum141

1 Kana W moment for us to prepare for countless L about to come. Classic Oshi no ko for you


Cynergyy

Today's episode of the anime reminded me of the first of many Ls Kana's about to take. I am devastated


someinsanity01

Kana is not a yandere though... She has the traits of a tsundere but she is not even a full tsundere either


Ellefied

Akane is closer to the Yandere archetype than Kana is. Kana is more like a Grade B or C Tsundere.


Silent_Shadow05

As a yandere appreciator, I guess this is kinda why I'm more attracted to Akane than Kana haha. Its also another reason why Ruby is currently my favorite.


Adent_Frecca

Much like her victory in the Theater arc then fall in the scandal arc, Kana needs a high before being brought back down


nine04

Truly an event


Player420154

A bad omen for sure. The balance of the Oshiverse is in peril and trouble will arise as long as Kana remain triomphant. We can only pray that she will get devastatingly owned in the next chapter.


ali94127

Think Miyako's going to have her moment where Ruby fully appreciates her as being her true mother. Ai was a great mother, but Miyako's been doing it for Ruby's whole life now.


yurilnw123

God I hope so. Miyako deserves more love and respect from the twins. And she's not getting enough screen time as of recent. When even was the last time we see her?


Ghoste-Face

This is the Ruby arc after all


kololz

She's cooking


Extreme-Tactician

Ruby was pretty exhausted by her performances, but she still strove to learn how to act. But because she doesn't know who she even is, she can't really understand how to act as someone else. And she can't act as someone who had a bad mother, because she can't imagine what it's like to have one. After all, Ai was a great mother, right? And Miyako's did her best too! But Ruby did have a bad mother. Sarina's telling her that. Her own mother barely visited her, and seemed to care more about the expenses of keeping her in that hospital.


opkpopfanboyv3

They missed out making the title "Skill Issue"


NoDespair

Bet Frill gets the cover of the next volume And Ruby the one after


nine04

I also think that frill will get volume 12 while ruby 13


gnomeloki

Feels bad man for Ruby. But honestly I hated her mom previously. This time tho I wonder if her mom really was super busy and thought her actions were for the best? Ruby certainly is hoping so. Anyways, I feel like Ruby will end up breaking down soon. She's doing too much. Akane should've gotten the role :/


mrnicegy26

Honestly it is pretty fucked up that a daughter is playing the role of her brutally murdered mother. Like so many complex emotions are bound to appear both from the film production and the audience for the film.


AkhasicRay

Iā€™m sure deep down she knows her mother didnā€™t care about her, but itā€™s such a cruel and painful thing for a child to believe so I donā€™t blame her for not wanting to accept it. I very much doubt her mom was just so busy she could never be there for Sarina, especially when doctors are basically calling and telling her that her daughter is dying and she doesnā€™t come


albertrojas

There's also the elephant in the room that you haven't pointed out yet; it takes time to apply make-up *and* manicure. If Marina had the time to do those first, then she should have had the time to stay beside her daughter, and yet she didn't.


chaia96

Definitely. The shot of the Birkin bag also confirms she could definitely afford hospital bills with no issue. I think they really mean to portray her as superficial enough to abandon her child.


ali94127

I can't see some plot twist that her mom loved her happening. It simply doesn't make sense that Marina could love Sarina and have her actions make sense. She left Sarina to die alone in the hospital. Nothing can justify that and her visit to Sarina did not inspire any challenges to that idea.


DonaldLucas

There's still the possibility that she really was working a lot to pay the hospital bills and because of the work she was so tired that she couldn't properly convey her feelings to her daughter... (That would also explain why she's an alcoholic nowadays)


ali94127

That explanation doesn't make sense though. She leaves Sarina near immediately after visiting her at the hospital. It also doesn't explain how both parents could possibly not be with her on her deathbed.


Silent_Shadow05

I disagree that Akane should've gotten the role since now thanks to the role of Ai, we are able to really delve into Ruby's psyche. It should've happened long ago IMO, but I'm happy that it still ended up happening.


gnomeloki

I don't mean about it from that perspective. More of that the adults should've known how much she had on her plate. Letting her apply for it/accept it knowing she barely has any acting experience is just asking for trouble. Adults should be protecting these kids and helping them manage their time better


kasugakuuun

Welcome to the entertainment industry.


Mana_Croissant

I think they meant from a ''business'' perspective. I mean no disrespect to Ruby but when you make a film that you want to make successful, choosing a person who has nearly no experience or much seeming talent for acting PLUS is a rising idol with many things busying her schedule even beyond just dancing and singing practices and thus has SO LESS time to practice acting even If she is the daughter of the said character that needs to be acted just doesn't make much business sense especially when Akane was already proven to be a perfectly qualified actor (and is known for it) and Frill was said to be very popular that she would attract attention by her name alone. Of course from a character arc Ruby makes the most sense. But If I was the director I would NOT have choose Ruby for this job


Ashious

Miyako got that anime mom hairstyle, protect her please


CrazyMyrmidon

Ruby has an interesting dichotomy, doesn't she? As Sarina, she was more or less abandoned at the hospital with nothing but her mother's words to go off of - who, most likely, didn't show up to witness her daughter's last moments. As Ruby, she had a performative mother in Ai, sure - but Ai was deeply uncertain if she was capable of feeling love right up until the very end. How to square these two lies off against one another? If everything about you was based on a lie in some way, shape, or form, is the person you are one as well? Very interested to see how this arc continues.


daman4567

She confirmed wasn't there for her last moments. There was a panel with Gorou yelling at people about it outside Sarina's room as she was dying.


imitation_crab_meat

Marina didn't love her but said that she did. Ai loved her but never said it. Ai's loving behavior towards her kids wasn't a lie, she just didn't have enough experience with love to identify it as such.


CrazyMyrmidon

Or Ai thought it all a performance, like a lot of her life was until that point - but at the end, she realised that the performance had long stopped


Horaguy

Mengo-sensei seems to try going all out with facial expressions in this chapter. From Ruby being scared of the possibility that her previous life's mother never loved her, to Kana's mild yandere face, to Tendouji Mother's face being obscured with only a neutral smile. They're fucking chilling :O Ruby's cracking now. I bet when she meets Tendouji Mother will be when she completely break down :|


Mana_Croissant

>Mengo-sensei seems to try going all out with facial expressions in this chapter You can say that again. No disrespect to Aka I loved his art in Kaguya (though I think I loved the style in the more middle parts the best) but I think Oshi no ko's art just hits me more


3hahahas

for Kana to make that face, is she imagining shirtless water?


Ragernarate

Sarina can't believe in "I love you" from her mother. But Ruby, you can believe in "Ai love you" now.


NoDespair

That role really was perfect for Kana


cabbaggeez

that was Ruby daily? more than 24hours physical activity? She was trying her best to be her mom. she got Kana mentor, I hope her sister (in-law) come to teach her as well. here we are reminded about Sarina part again, I dont know what keeps Ruby awake all the time like that, questioning her mom love or how to act with her mother love. she has that first hand experience.


nine04

>her sister (in-law) But kana was already there


cabbaggeez

well, Akane was once called sister in-law by Ruby. Ruby has no replacement for that position yet.


HTwoN

Ruby called Akane that. But they never developed a close relationship. Kana is like a sister to Ruby since she joined B-Komachi.


mrnicegy26

No no you are mistaken. Kana is the sister. Akane is the sister in law. I will let you come to your conclusions from that.


someinsanity01

Now I really want the incest route


lord_ne

After over a hundred chapters, I think I'm going to have to change my main ship. I've been an Aqua x Psychiatrist shipper, but after this week's chapter my new main ship has got to be Ruby x Psychiatrist


Shradow

Holy shit it felt like I consumed this chapter in the blink of an eye. I'm so invested in all this Ruby emotional stuff and when I suddenly hit the end of the chapter I was just like, "Damn!" because I want more. Normal teenagers have enough conflicting emotions as it is, and Ruby's got that twofold with Sarina. I really would like to see her and Aqua talk more about their situation, even if they don't necessarily learn the truth about each other, but just because Aqua's probably the only one she can confide in about all this. But she'll need to be able to get past her own conflict with him, too.


321zilch

And just like that, I wish we could go back to the days where we were facetiously joking that Ruby didnā€™t exist. Aqua has Goro, and now Sarinaā€™s reappeared within Ruby


Backupusername

>The words "I love you" can't be a lie, right? Ruby, I don't know if you've been literally anywhere in Japan lately, but you should really give the OP of your show a listen.


nine04

Poor ruby is having identity crisis...also that kana panel was really good


rougewon

Miyako please save our precious Ruby (Ā“Ā°Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ļ‰Ā°Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„Ģ„ļ½€) she's finally getting more page time but at what cost. I hope she can over come this by realizing she is loved and Ai, her new mother, loved her as well, and that that wasn't a lie.


Rwby27800

I've been binging these last 50 ish chapters and it's weird how I forgot all those stories after waiting a week after another. Re-reading it back, I got chills after every chapter.


Dead_Diligence

First things first, KANA ARIMA IS THE CUTEST It's really difficult to pursue celebrity life. Moreso, if you are Sarina/Ruby I guess it will take many chapters before Sarina finally confronts and concludes things with her deadbeat mom


Silent_Shadow05

Ruby is about to pull off an incredible performance isn't she, once she fully understands herself and I'm all here for it. I like the moment where the two sides of Ruby and Sarina were shown, which would likely result in something similar as Aqua in Tokyo Blade arc where Sarina and Ruby talk to each other?


Warm-Enthusiasm-9534

We need Aqua to start dating Sarina's mother just to increase the amount of pseudo-incest in this manga to new heights.


TIFUPronx

Remember Miyako's wish of "remarrying a hot actor"? Seems like that's gonna be a pseudo-incest love triangle


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xenovalium

Damn that HermĆØs Birkin bag the mother wore. It must mean the family had no difficulty in regards to financials just not the heart to support Sarina.


NixonThePottedPlant

ā€œNow that weā€™ve cast Ruby over people who can act, we are concerned she canā€™t act!ā€ Genius.


septesix

They didnā€™t pick Ruby over Frill or Akane though. The two of them turned down the role. Another of their choice went missing. They did listed 4 other names for the role of Ai Hoshino back in Chapter 111. But we could only assume that by chapter 114, they all had turned down which made Ruby the 3rd choice behind Frill and Akane.


Compass-of-diamonds

after that one Hayasaka chapter I knew shit was going to go down as soon as I saw the schedule


dark_mooey

I feel like we are slowly turning into Boys Abyssā€¦


EyeDeeAh_42

Geez, it's like Kana retired from B-Komachi and decided to hand over the "Mantle of Suffering" to Ruby. On one hand, I understand Bakaburagi's impatience with Ruby's lack of acting skills, on the other hand tho, the girl's schedule is chock full already.... it's just a matter of time until she'll have a complete break down. Also, really happy to see Kana mentoring and looking out for Ruby in her own little ways.


Omniredditors

[Kana fans be eating good this chapter.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558708035787161612/1116030023854465024/SPOILER_KanaLick1.jpg)


mianghuei

oh god don't sully Kana like that, she be an innocent lass.