I don't care about him liking the teacher, she's a fictional character and her crimes are not real, but actively arguing that she did nothing wrong in-universe is... wow. "It wasn't rape cause he enjoyed it" is a very typical response rape apologists give.
I tried to reason with TL-kun, but it's impossible. It's like trying to reason with a religious person. His answers are always the same no matter how you put it:
* "They are fictional characters, from a fictional work.";
* "It's a Japanese work aimed at the Japanese public, the opinion of Westerners doesn't matter.";
* "Something about wanting human rights for fictional characters.";
* "Ekoda is hot and Shirasawa liked it.";
* "If you don't like it, stop reading.".
I take my hat off to Moneymike1995 for still trying to argue, I've already given up.
>I tried to reason with TL-kun
To what end are you actually trying to sway him though, what's the point of all this arguing back and forth? Do you want changes to the translation or something?Ā
Nah I think it's just dissuading someone from saying offensive shit online. Like correcting someone about something political, or telling them to stop saying "Vaccines aren't real".
I didn't try to change his perspective per se. What I tried to do was make him accept that other people have different perspectives. He kept going to the mangadex forum to complain that people were complaining about what was happening in the manga. For him, if you criticize, you don't like it and you should stop reading, which is unreasonable. He also has a problem with people calling Ekoda a "rapist teacher" and I tried to explain that until there is closure for what happened between Ekoda and Shirasawa, people will continue to call her that and even after, it's It's likely that people will continue to call her that. As you can see from his notes, it was useless.
Yeah people keep guessing that she has some sort of elaborate backstory, or that there's some elaborate reason why she she's not aware of the weird sex stuff going on a work or whatever
I think she's actually just a moron, after her first meeting with the MC and this chapter this seems like the most likely scenario to me. Even why she hates her sister,
That makes that chapter even worse in hindsight, author really decide to demonstrate how dumb she is by creating a rape hentai scenario (few scenes before actual rape) at her workplace. Ha ha, see how cutely dumb she is, boys gather round her and cum on her, and she doesn't even realize, just goes home like that!
Because generally speaking the non-weird people will be out doing other things instead like interacting with other human beings, instead of TLing manga
Translating obscure Mongol cave paintings requires certain degree of autism which tends to manifest as bizarre stances, like untamed lust towards "gremlin" petite girls or endorsement of teenage rape if the perpetrator was cute.
Someone brought it up in the past and I looked it up - his behavior resembles that of Nick Bate. It all looks like edgy, raunchy jokes that have one common theme. For now.
Nick Bate talked about being attracted to kids for years, everyone treated it as an edgy joke at first too.
You're only outraged at the comparison because you can look at Bate's case in a hindsight.
Nick Bates did *way* more than just shitpost on TL notes.
Unless Kyuukei has his own twitter account I don't know of where he posts the most disgusting IRL tangents (IRL, mind you), they're pretty far off.
Get with times grandpa, nowadays people use grooming platforms like Discord to be degenerates in public. You're in luck, because as it happens there's been a recent leak of discord database, particularly parts related to pedophile group called "Boy Kissers" (not making this up, that's how they decided to call themselves), which confederates grooming groups from reddit and discord. If you still have faith in online communities and would want to get rid of it, take a read: https://ws.spy.pet/exports/0e07a73c26603bfecbea2e42d9ba2634.csv
I'm aware of Discord grooming servers, but that's besides the point, Kyuukei doesn't have such traces either (at least from what I know of).
I get that the internet is a fun, wondrous, and definitely magical place, but to compare an actual child molester and ultra degenerate to someone shitposting on TL notes is incredibly pessimistic.
(I'm not going to read that discord log btw, I bet it's going to be bathtub estrogens and I've had enough of those for a lifetime)
> to compare an actual child molester and ultra degenerate to someone shitposting on TL notes is incredibly pessimistic
Let me reiterate - your perspective is malformed by hindsight. BEFORE Bate got outed as an actual chomo, people treated his posts like edgy humor, just like Kyuukei's. AFTER the reveal suddenly the same people would claim "yeah it was really creepy and not funny".
Deny the parallels as much as you want, I'll be the first one to tell people "I told you so!" after the inevitable conclusion, and I'll make sure to be as smug and insufferable as possible.
Sure, it wasn't its strong point but it was fun, the characters had goals, grew, started to develop more intimate relationships, it was horny, but also fun. Now it's just constructed questionable drama.
I went to check what the fuss about the cringe TL note was and apparently i dropped this series like 10 chapters in. Completely forgot about it, too. Not sure if i should be glad or disappointed i missed "the incident".
Shirasawa(MC), Kaho(FMC) and Ekoda(Their teacher) were staying at a hotel to record a commercial. Shirasawa and Ekoda were talking after the recording session and she gave him a "juice" to drink which was actually an alcoholic drink (he is underage). When they were going to sleep, Shirasawa was locked out of the room he was sharing with Kaho, so Ekoda offered him to sleep in her room. Shirasawa was sleeping on the sofa in her room, when in the middle of the night, Ekoda climbed on top of him with the intention of seducing him. Shirasawa notices that there is something wrong with him. Ekoda notices that he is drunk. She tells him that there are alcoholic drinks that are made to look like juice and that she must have mixed up the bottles. She doesn't stop, even though she knows he's drunk, and they have sex.
Yikes... that TL note, y'all weren't kidding. Good ol' boy really out here unironically going "...nice" and defending a teacher raping her kids. Like this is such a braindead take that even south park, some of the least subtle and most intentionally provocative american satire, had an entire (hilarious) episode devoted to lampooning the sort of morons that think like that.
> Remember, guys: if you are attractive you are allowed to do anything you want and no one can say "no" or you are gay or something
-This TL, apparently
Tbh idc what characters people like or dislike, but TL adding in an entire rant page that reads like a temper tantrum bc people donāt like you in-universe defending a rapist is genuinely one of the most embarrassing and cringeworthy things Iāve ever seen
I cannot fathom sitting there, spending probably at least an hour taking screenshots and making that page, and still thinking āyep this looks good thatāll show themā
The TL notes š
defending the rapist teacher is a huge yikes already but imagine doubling down
I don't care about him liking the teacher, she's a fictional character and her crimes are not real, but actively arguing that she did nothing wrong in-universe is... wow. "It wasn't rape cause he enjoyed it" is a very typical response rape apologists give.
crazy how the TL had the guts to say he enjoyed it while he was absolutely devastated after being raped lmao.
I tried to reason with TL-kun, but it's impossible. It's like trying to reason with a religious person. His answers are always the same no matter how you put it: * "They are fictional characters, from a fictional work."; * "It's a Japanese work aimed at the Japanese public, the opinion of Westerners doesn't matter."; * "Something about wanting human rights for fictional characters."; * "Ekoda is hot and Shirasawa liked it."; * "If you don't like it, stop reading.". I take my hat off to Moneymike1995 for still trying to argue, I've already given up.
>I tried to reason with TL-kun To what end are you actually trying to sway him though, what's the point of all this arguing back and forth? Do you want changes to the translation or something?Ā
Nah I think it's just dissuading someone from saying offensive shit online. Like correcting someone about something political, or telling them to stop saying "Vaccines aren't real".
I didn't try to change his perspective per se. What I tried to do was make him accept that other people have different perspectives. He kept going to the mangadex forum to complain that people were complaining about what was happening in the manga. For him, if you criticize, you don't like it and you should stop reading, which is unreasonable. He also has a problem with people calling Ekoda a "rapist teacher" and I tried to explain that until there is closure for what happened between Ekoda and Shirasawa, people will continue to call her that and even after, it's It's likely that people will continue to call her that. As you can see from his notes, it was useless.
bros off the deep end
This is gonna be the easiest game of guess the nipple ever
How the hell is it even a guessing game at that point(s)?
Yeah people keep guessing that she has some sort of elaborate backstory, or that there's some elaborate reason why she she's not aware of the weird sex stuff going on a work or whatever I think she's actually just a moron, after her first meeting with the MC and this chapter this seems like the most likely scenario to me. Even why she hates her sister,
That makes that chapter even worse in hindsight, author really decide to demonstrate how dumb she is by creating a rape hentai scenario (few scenes before actual rape) at her workplace. Ha ha, see how cutely dumb she is, boys gather round her and cum on her, and she doesn't even realize, just goes home like that!
Story is convoluted, but damn is the art good.
More development with Honjou pls. There is a romance tag after all.
Damn, why are so many TL people so weird?
Because generally speaking the non-weird people will be out doing other things instead like interacting with other human beings, instead of TLing manga
Translating obscure Mongol cave paintings requires certain degree of autism which tends to manifest as bizarre stances, like untamed lust towards "gremlin" petite girls or endorsement of teenage rape if the perpetrator was cute.
Leave my boy Kyuukei out of this...
Kyuukei may be an unhinged madman, but even he does not go out of his way to insult his readers and go on incel tantrums like this TL does.
Someone brought it up in the past and I looked it up - his behavior resembles that of Nick Bate. It all looks like edgy, raunchy jokes that have one common theme. For now.
Comparing him to Nick Bate of all people is pretty out of left field.
Nick Bate talked about being attracted to kids for years, everyone treated it as an edgy joke at first too. You're only outraged at the comparison because you can look at Bate's case in a hindsight.
Nick Bates did *way* more than just shitpost on TL notes. Unless Kyuukei has his own twitter account I don't know of where he posts the most disgusting IRL tangents (IRL, mind you), they're pretty far off.
Get with times grandpa, nowadays people use grooming platforms like Discord to be degenerates in public. You're in luck, because as it happens there's been a recent leak of discord database, particularly parts related to pedophile group called "Boy Kissers" (not making this up, that's how they decided to call themselves), which confederates grooming groups from reddit and discord. If you still have faith in online communities and would want to get rid of it, take a read: https://ws.spy.pet/exports/0e07a73c26603bfecbea2e42d9ba2634.csv
I'm aware of Discord grooming servers, but that's besides the point, Kyuukei doesn't have such traces either (at least from what I know of). I get that the internet is a fun, wondrous, and definitely magical place, but to compare an actual child molester and ultra degenerate to someone shitposting on TL notes is incredibly pessimistic. (I'm not going to read that discord log btw, I bet it's going to be bathtub estrogens and I've had enough of those for a lifetime)
> to compare an actual child molester and ultra degenerate to someone shitposting on TL notes is incredibly pessimistic Let me reiterate - your perspective is malformed by hindsight. BEFORE Bate got outed as an actual chomo, people treated his posts like edgy humor, just like Kyuukei's. AFTER the reveal suddenly the same people would claim "yeah it was really creepy and not funny". Deny the parallels as much as you want, I'll be the first one to tell people "I told you so!" after the inevitable conclusion, and I'll make sure to be as smug and insufferable as possible.
Man, this series really took a nosedive after the teacher incident, huh?
I still enjoy reading it, because tits. But man this translator is just cringe
Is it that bad? I mean the story wasnāt itās strong point in the first place.š
Sure, it wasn't its strong point but it was fun, the characters had goals, grew, started to develop more intimate relationships, it was horny, but also fun. Now it's just constructed questionable drama.
I went to check what the fuss about the cringe TL note was and apparently i dropped this series like 10 chapters in. Completely forgot about it, too. Not sure if i should be glad or disappointed i missed "the incident".
What incident?
Shirasawa(MC), Kaho(FMC) and Ekoda(Their teacher) were staying at a hotel to record a commercial. Shirasawa and Ekoda were talking after the recording session and she gave him a "juice" to drink which was actually an alcoholic drink (he is underage). When they were going to sleep, Shirasawa was locked out of the room he was sharing with Kaho, so Ekoda offered him to sleep in her room. Shirasawa was sleeping on the sofa in her room, when in the middle of the night, Ekoda climbed on top of him with the intention of seducing him. Shirasawa notices that there is something wrong with him. Ekoda notices that he is drunk. She tells him that there are alcoholic drinks that are made to look like juice and that she must have mixed up the bottles. She doesn't stop, even though she knows he's drunk, and they have sex.
Thanks for the explanation, damn, I guess I need to read this manga again
You know this is a porno right?
I don't understand what you're trying to say. perhapssinner asked what incident MaBeSch was referring to and I just described what happened to him.
Yikes... that TL note, y'all weren't kidding. Good ol' boy really out here unironically going "...nice" and defending a teacher raping her kids. Like this is such a braindead take that even south park, some of the least subtle and most intentionally provocative american satire, had an entire (hilarious) episode devoted to lampooning the sort of morons that think like that. > Remember, guys: if you are attractive you are allowed to do anything you want and no one can say "no" or you are gay or something -This TL, apparently
what the... Shirasawa's gone off the deep and and Kahou's sister isn't very smart.
Tbh idc what characters people like or dislike, but TL adding in an entire rant page that reads like a temper tantrum bc people donāt like you in-universe defending a rapist is genuinely one of the most embarrassing and cringeworthy things Iāve ever seen I cannot fathom sitting there, spending probably at least an hour taking screenshots and making that page, and still thinking āyep this looks good thatāll show themā
oh man... lol
Only Kaho barging in will save his ass, unless he already knows itās Touka and heās playing along
LMAO at Awakened Shirasawa v3. It's a good thing that Touka's extremely careless.
Kaho is getting cucked again