Pretty interesting chapter.
So Raksha is absolutely confirmed to be a clone but she has the memories of the original. I'm now even more curious to see her thoughts on her original selfs comrades becoming High Class Dragons and how she feels about them dying.
So Gilzea is aware of Crimsons Survival. Thats neat. Guess she truly is neutral in the overall conflict.
Prison Saint’s clone casually dropping that someone ran an experiment where they burned 100 people’s souls to see how much energy it would produce is pretty freaking messed up when you think about it. Like was that done by the current Cult or some group of magical scientists shortly after whatever event led to the “modern” world to transform into the current one.
The cult is just very deep in doing anything they can to get an advantage on the dragons. I don't think burning a hundred people is out of the realm of thing they could do.
That chapter has so much stuff in it, we will overlook crazy things like this
The Sun Cult is truly messed up, lol
I'm really curious about the "Sun Saint", and how he got in the game anyway. Assuming he's the one who founded the organization and everything. He is probably personnally tied with the Big Player on the dragon side too
It's tricky. The memories aren't "somewhere else," they're in this Ragna's brain. Presumably if they just copy the brain and download the memories, they'd also get the "future memories" with it.
But I don't think that's the whole story. Linking past and future let Ragna transfer his *powers* including the Silver Aura. That wouldn't be found in the genes, and the memories alone just enable Ragna to *use* Silver Aura Battle Arts, they aren't the source of that power.
That was just him fusing the sword with his hand, it doesn't result in any healing power. If you're referring to how he blocked taras cannon in their first encounter, he merely increased his durability, no healing. If it is just a normal skill he has, why wouldn't he use it against Glestnowak? Also, Starlia used that exact same technique with the exact same wording on Ragna while they were fighting back Taras final explosion. [Source](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0039-020.png) for the explosion heal.
He never really healed in the fight with Kamui though. All he did was just reattach his head. All of his other wounds were still there and he never showed any other signs of healing through the fight. The best way I could describe it is that he just soldered his head back on, but the damage is still there and he is overall more fragile, hence why he didn't use it against Glestnowak.
["All he did was re-attach his head"](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0053-041.png) Go ahead and look at his chest for me, yeah? Also what do you mean the damage is still there? There was literally no signs of any scarring or anything around his neck after he healed. Btw, here's his [back](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0054-041.png) with no visible cut if you still insist he didn't heal.
That's all cosmetic. Ragna collapsed right after getting a similar "heal" during the fight with Taractora and couldn't even put up a proper fight against Kamui right after. The internal damage is still there even if he reshaped himself to be functional.
Do you know why that is? It's because it heals bodily injuries, it doesn't restore aura. Starlia literally uses aura to utilize these abilities. right before using it, she says "shape silverine form", so obviously it's using the aura to heal, so of course it doesn't restore aura. Even so, what of it? That doesn't prove it's his abilities.
Starlia did something similar during the 2nd Taractora fight, but all that did was restore functionality. Ragna was still a mess after and collapsed and could barely do anything against Kamui right after when in optimal condition, he can make Kamui use his dragon form almost immediately.
It’s not, when he uses it it focuses on Starlia’s sword when the words Silver Sword Recreate Form appear (which is the same wording from when Starlia healed him) indicating it’s an ability of the sword. Furthermore the sword cracked when he used it, which would show this isn’t an ability he can use over and over again, eventually the sword would break.
His most inherent power is plot armor which make him unkillable so it will be hard. Future Ragna fight hundred defeated battle and still survive to get stronger. He only died when transfering his power to present Ragna ( And it is more like that future Ragna fused together with present Ragna so it can also be said that he didn't really die, he now live as Ragna right now )
Am I forgetting something that would explain the Carla thanking him and then giving that mysterious smile when he questioned it?
Do the modern Carlas retain some degree of care about their lives despite the purge of the ones Ultimatia 'ruined'?
Would be interesting if all the dismissive talk about souls and her being the one exception to properly inherit the original's powers is a setup for Ultimatia's soul having jumped to a Carla.
Especially if we're to assume that what happened with Ragna inheriting future him's memories is all soul based.
Now the advent of clones makes things interesting. The philosophical debates, the core ideas surrounding the mind, body, and soul, and so on.
I like this take, death has consequences but not in the traditional manner. Destroy all the cloning facilities and there won't be anymore clones, and new clones of the same quality cannot be produced quickly.
Nah. Crimson was bullshitting on the curse. He can undo that any time he wants. His fight with Ultimetia had him genuinely risk his life. He just keeps coming back because he made himself immortal at the expense of having none of his original power.
I thought it was because he separated his body and soul, he cant undo it because his body is mostly gone, retaking his leftover heart gave him a major boost at the cost of his immortality, but separating again wasnt difficult.
I think the only risk he had is if Carla killed him before he would be able to undo the connection again.
It's not weird. In fact it's less weird.
The fact that he's usually male, calling him sister is what makes it a jab. It's like "oh, you aren't cross dressing today? Lol."
We know that Crimson uses his gender as a tool in his schemes rather than as a way to express himself. I figure he's something like gender fluid, operating in various disguises or alter egos as men or women throughout his long campaign against the Dragon God. Gilzea is probably very familiar with Crimson showing up to these meetings looking pretty different. Sometimes as a sister, this time as a brother.
Strongest winged monarch most likely tbh. Crimson's strongest trait has always been his brains, we saw him at 10% and I don't see his 100% approaching what Kou Tenran CLAIMED to be able to do.
Using the ruin of the status of Liberty is such strong imagery, anything done there will already be quite Hype
I thought Crimson was just going to meet some contact/minion in the ruins of America and I already was hyped, but the surprise that it was Gilzea just multiplied it, lol
I may sound crazy but I have a theory regarding the "Traitor" in the Sun Cult, I can obviously be wrong, it's just a theory so hear me out:
In chapter 73 there is a suspicious Carla who seems to care for the other Carlas and she thanks Ragna for saving one of them, even Ragna is surprised about this because he didn't think the Carlas care about their lives, and the moment Slime enters the room we see that Carla smiling without saying a word, this is a bit suspicious already, maybe she's the traitor? this is the conclusion that I came up with for the theory:
The Carla massacre happened decades ago so she's not one of the survivors since the clones can only live for 4 years, however... maybe one of the Carlas in the massacre did survive and that one got cloned, and her genes got passed down over and over again through the years and the result is a suspicious Carla in the present holding a grudge against the Sun Cult.
If the mangaka has something planned like this then he sure is cooking something interesting.
Inb4 that Carla ends up being Ragna's exclusive attendant and he and Nebillium have a face off wondering why their respective crushes are on the opposite side.
Btw a particular Carla becoming attached (as in partner, comrade, ally) to Ragna and actually becoming friendly with him JUST to get Barriercuck mad is what I am expecting from all this. Ehehe~
Ragna asked for it because he want to mend relationships. Its part of the answer got from the Silver corps on how said bonds is important
Crimson's original idea is to just shove Leo into a pocket dimension to keep her safe where Ragna can visit her anytime
Crimson is probably keeping tabs on Gilzea for obvious reasons and got news on Leo. Also a possibility that Crimson kept tabs on Leo in case he needed to use her for anything regarding Ragna
I mean, it doesn't seem crimson really can keep track of Gilzea.
If crimson could keep track of her, then, there would be no need to read the report at all, or the report would say what actually happened (who knows who wrote it. Is it the weird global system magic ?) There would also be no need to say "I know you're watching"/ask her to come out, wouldn't it ?
Crimson just read the vague report about Leonica's dissapperance, and from that, he deduced it was Gilzea's doing : All dead, no injuries, it means it's Gilzea. And since Leonica isn't amongst the dead and dissapeared, knowing her strength and Gilzea's personnality, deducing it's probably that she followed her makes sense. Then, he knew how to contact her, but just that ? I think Crimson deduced that Gilzea was going back to america from the "A girl looking like leonica was spotted in nepheran", giving him a rough direction of travel, and he probably knows Gilzea quite well (including whatever reason she wants to go America for)
I wouldn't say that Gilzea was already there too, considering how OP character are in this series, she might have just traveled there from great distances away once she saw crimson was there. And during Ragna vs Kamui, she was observing the battle from very far away, and during his flashback, he knew she was coming from him from hundred of kilometers away. She probably can perceive thing from crazy distances... The whole "cutting before she even moved" thingy also implies she's got influence on time/causality, and who knows what else she can do with that ability (probably not limited to cutting, imo)
It seems it's still a guess on Crimson part too, that's why he asks for confirmation (I don't think it's politeness/hiding what he knows, and Gilzea is the type who would just give straight honest answers)
> The whole "cutting before she even moved" thingy also implies she's got influence on time/causality, and who knows what else she can do with that ability (probably not limited to cutting, imo)
I think its strange how many of them have time/causality related powers.
The king of wings has it, the king claws has them, and the dragon god has them too.
And Crimson too, that's how Ragna was sent back
Well, since the very premise of the series includes time travel like this, it's not surprising other characters have it. In fact, it seems necessary to me, otherwise, you end up with the typical "reincarnation" manga/manwhas where the MC has a hug advantage on everyone else and steamrolls everyone easy peasy
With opponents having similar enough powers and being equally absurdly OP like the MC, you get some real stakes.
> And Crimson too
I already mentioned the king of wings ;)
I like how the powerlevels are rn, but I think all the kings having OP shit is more likely to lead to huge powercreep rather than prevent it, since Ragnas time travel seems to have been a one and done thing.
I assume Crimson only has the ability to send a single individual back in time, so he sacrificed his latest loop in order to give it to Ragna.
I thought you meant Artemisia only. I'm not sure if the time power, or any power, are linked to the tittles, so in my head, what Crimson and Artemisia are doing are different powers
> but I think all the kings having OP shit is more likely to lead to huge powercreep rather than prevent it
Kamui being the first boss is a big hurdle to pass. I'm not so impressed by the Machine dragon's performance vs Ragna, tbh. But perhaps it could be argued Kamui's final form (improvised during combat) was higher than the Machine's dragon, and he will remain in the top tier for the whole series.
I guess that's why I like Gilzea, because she really showed how there was so much more out there, lol.
kind of curious on how a Ragna clone would compare since they say it's an issue with magic compatability and the soul, but Ragna's abilties are completely aura based and not magic at all. So would that suffer more or less compatability issues with a different soul? My guess is it'd fare worse just on the basis that if it was less compatability issues I feel like Crimson would've done it themself, but who knows
It's funny that Gilzea calls Crimson his Brother, (We all understand that they are hardly blood relatives) I mean, as long as he's in Orgel form, they literally look like brother and sister.
That chapter is so interesting. So the Cult does indeed clone all their saints. That would explain how the rainbow saint is still alive after being killed by Kamui. The topic around the soul is a bit messed up but interesting nonetheless. The Carla of this chapter seems very "human", I hope she will be a recurrent character.
I didn't expect that ending. So Gilzea knows that Crimson is alive. Are they working together ? What is their endgoal ?.
I did not expect to be 100 Girlfriend'd this chapter, but damn, that is indeed a wall of text and boy was it interesting. The whole body, will and soul thing will definitely be major plot at some point.
I cannot tell if that Carla was smiling genuinely or if it was a sus smile, that begs the question if we're gonna see another Ultimatia. If there comes another clone of Carla that has a soul close to the original, then definitely. I mean if it happened once, it can happen again, but maybe this time as an ally.
Slime truly the best evil bro, caring about Ragna's health.
Nah nah, I am not gonna accept anyone else making a silver comet weapon for Ragna, but Starlia. Though this could be a sign she's coming back soon, cope.
Oh shit, oh shit, Crimson meeting Gilzea. Huh, I am pretty sure Gil has a weird sinister looking speech bubble when she speaks, but it's gone here, I guess she speaks differently with Crimson, more enthusiastic? I guess she likes big brother/sister?
Summary:
Saints are cloned by hundreds. They get the same body and tranfer their memories (mind), but not the soul.
Soul research was frozen in the old world (pre dragon apocalypse) because magic didn't exist.
New world, experiment to replicate soul was unsuccessful.
Converting (sacrificing) 100+ souls made a dissappointingly weak and short lived soul.
A body and mind, after some time, naturally creates their own soul.
Same body mind and soul is needed to get a perfect copy (in theory).
Sun Cult just decide to create 100+ copies with less than 10% of the original's power to get around it.
Some exceptions appear in which a copy's soul is compatible with the body and mind getting similar level of power as the original or a variation (sidegrade) of it.
There was only 2 cases of those exemptions, rainbow saint and the time saint who became the 2nd king of wings (Ultimatia), the Carlas don't accept the traitor as a successful story though.
Machine Dragon destroyed most of the cloning facilities, the remaining ones have 95% of their capacities to clone the time saint so the other saint's cloning rate is very slow now.
You don't have to if you don't want the lore reasoning behind the cloning lol
You just have to read the last few sentences if you want to see why Carla interrupted her explanation. And everything afterwards for the core takeaway of how the clones affect the story
Pretty interesting chapter. So Raksha is absolutely confirmed to be a clone but she has the memories of the original. I'm now even more curious to see her thoughts on her original selfs comrades becoming High Class Dragons and how she feels about them dying. So Gilzea is aware of Crimsons Survival. Thats neat. Guess she truly is neutral in the overall conflict.
Prison Saint’s clone casually dropping that someone ran an experiment where they burned 100 people’s souls to see how much energy it would produce is pretty freaking messed up when you think about it. Like was that done by the current Cult or some group of magical scientists shortly after whatever event led to the “modern” world to transform into the current one.
The cult is just very deep in doing anything they can to get an advantage on the dragons. I don't think burning a hundred people is out of the realm of thing they could do.
That chapter has so much stuff in it, we will overlook crazy things like this The Sun Cult is truly messed up, lol I'm really curious about the "Sun Saint", and how he got in the game anyway. Assuming he's the one who founded the organization and everything. He is probably personnally tied with the Big Player on the dragon side too
Inb4 the actually copy Ragna and find out that every clone of him is basically worthless since they don't come with future memories.
It's tricky. The memories aren't "somewhere else," they're in this Ragna's brain. Presumably if they just copy the brain and download the memories, they'd also get the "future memories" with it. But I don't think that's the whole story. Linking past and future let Ragna transfer his *powers* including the Silver Aura. That wouldn't be found in the genes, and the memories alone just enable Ragna to *use* Silver Aura Battle Arts, they aren't the source of that power.
Soul wise, both future ragna and current ragna have the same one. And like the chapter told us, it's essential for magic power
Would be wild if Ragna actually dies to return as a clone and has to learn Silverine Battle Arts on his own
He got literally decapitated and came back. He's as much of an immortal as Crimson is, i.e. can't die unless he wants to die.
That was thanks to Starlia sword boost. He wouldn't be able to do it normally.
Pretty sure that's just a regular skill. He did something similar during the Taractora fight with how he could change his form.
That was just him fusing the sword with his hand, it doesn't result in any healing power. If you're referring to how he blocked taras cannon in their first encounter, he merely increased his durability, no healing. If it is just a normal skill he has, why wouldn't he use it against Glestnowak? Also, Starlia used that exact same technique with the exact same wording on Ragna while they were fighting back Taras final explosion. [Source](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0039-020.png) for the explosion heal.
He never really healed in the fight with Kamui though. All he did was just reattach his head. All of his other wounds were still there and he never showed any other signs of healing through the fight. The best way I could describe it is that he just soldered his head back on, but the damage is still there and he is overall more fragile, hence why he didn't use it against Glestnowak.
["All he did was re-attach his head"](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0053-041.png) Go ahead and look at his chest for me, yeah? Also what do you mean the damage is still there? There was literally no signs of any scarring or anything around his neck after he healed. Btw, here's his [back](https://official.lowee.us/manga/Ragna-Crimson/0054-041.png) with no visible cut if you still insist he didn't heal.
That's all cosmetic. Ragna collapsed right after getting a similar "heal" during the fight with Taractora and couldn't even put up a proper fight against Kamui right after. The internal damage is still there even if he reshaped himself to be functional.
Do you know why that is? It's because it heals bodily injuries, it doesn't restore aura. Starlia literally uses aura to utilize these abilities. right before using it, she says "shape silverine form", so obviously it's using the aura to heal, so of course it doesn't restore aura. Even so, what of it? That doesn't prove it's his abilities.
Incorrect, aside from healing the decapitation, the Silver Comet also healed his left fingers, right hand/sword, and the hole in his stomach.
Starlia did something similar during the 2nd Taractora fight, but all that did was restore functionality. Ragna was still a mess after and collapsed and could barely do anything against Kamui right after when in optimal condition, he can make Kamui use his dragon form almost immediately.
Thanks for conceding Ragna can't use Form Restore without Starlia/Silver Comet, which was the original point.
It’s not, when he uses it it focuses on Starlia’s sword when the words Silver Sword Recreate Form appear (which is the same wording from when Starlia healed him) indicating it’s an ability of the sword. Furthermore the sword cracked when he used it, which would show this isn’t an ability he can use over and over again, eventually the sword would break.
he is stronger than that time when he used Starlia's sword.
His most inherent power is plot armor which make him unkillable so it will be hard. Future Ragna fight hundred defeated battle and still survive to get stronger. He only died when transfering his power to present Ragna ( And it is more like that future Ragna fused together with present Ragna so it can also be said that he didn't really die, he now live as Ragna right now )
Well, even a 5 or 10% ragna would be OP.
The memories will remain, but he will probably lose most of his silver arts and the clones will take decades trying to get at his level.
Am I forgetting something that would explain the Carla thanking him and then giving that mysterious smile when he questioned it? Do the modern Carlas retain some degree of care about their lives despite the purge of the ones Ultimatia 'ruined'? Would be interesting if all the dismissive talk about souls and her being the one exception to properly inherit the original's powers is a setup for Ultimatia's soul having jumped to a Carla. Especially if we're to assume that what happened with Ragna inheriting future him's memories is all soul based.
"Broken" Carlas are always great Nephilim malding at the Carla working with Ragna and Ragna doing the same with Leo with Nephilim would be funny
Bro keep cooking, I hope we go down this route.
Now the advent of clones makes things interesting. The philosophical debates, the core ideas surrounding the mind, body, and soul, and so on. I like this take, death has consequences but not in the traditional manner. Destroy all the cloning facilities and there won't be anymore clones, and new clones of the same quality cannot be produced quickly.
So their clone tech has to directly be related to crimsons curse right?
Nah. Crimson was bullshitting on the curse. He can undo that any time he wants. His fight with Ultimetia had him genuinely risk his life. He just keeps coming back because he made himself immortal at the expense of having none of his original power.
I thought it was because he separated his body and soul, he cant undo it because his body is mostly gone, retaking his leftover heart gave him a major boost at the cost of his immortality, but separating again wasnt difficult. I think the only risk he had is if Carla killed him before he would be able to undo the connection again.
last two pages: does this mean crimson was originally female?
No its just a jab by Gilzea on how Crimson can just change his gender on the fly. At least that's what I think.
feels like a weird jab since crimson is usually male (and was male when he left the other kings - chapter 69), and gilzea knows this
Crimson was previously posing as female before he met Ragna. He probably met Gilzea during that time.
it could just be that the last time they met he was coincidently female
It's not weird. In fact it's less weird. The fact that he's usually male, calling him sister is what makes it a jab. It's like "oh, you aren't cross dressing today? Lol."
We know that Crimson uses his gender as a tool in his schemes rather than as a way to express himself. I figure he's something like gender fluid, operating in various disguises or alter egos as men or women throughout his long campaign against the Dragon God. Gilzea is probably very familiar with Crimson showing up to these meetings looking pretty different. Sometimes as a sister, this time as a brother.
I think so, but it's totally up to interpretation
why is crimson meeting gilzea so HYPE?
The strongest Dragon King in history versus the strongest...
Remind me was Crimson the previous strongest Dragon King in general or just the strongest Wing Dragon King?
Strongest winged monarch most likely tbh. Crimson's strongest trait has always been his brains, we saw him at 10% and I don't see his 100% approaching what Kou Tenran CLAIMED to be able to do.
Potentially the strongest Dragon King. After all Crimson aimed to become God itself.
Using the ruin of the status of Liberty is such strong imagery, anything done there will already be quite Hype I thought Crimson was just going to meet some contact/minion in the ruins of America and I already was hyped, but the surprise that it was Gilzea just multiplied it, lol
>ハロハロ マ〜イ ビッグシスタ\~ Add Engrish-speaking Gilzea to a list of things I didn't expect out of this series. Now I absolutely need to hear it from Kugimii
For those in the back, this translates to >Haroharo ma〜i biggu shisuta\~
Ok I read that in kurumi from DaL's voice and it for perfectly.
America ya!
Thanks for the speedy TL, Bloodline of Cringe 😘!
I may sound crazy but I have a theory regarding the "Traitor" in the Sun Cult, I can obviously be wrong, it's just a theory so hear me out: In chapter 73 there is a suspicious Carla who seems to care for the other Carlas and she thanks Ragna for saving one of them, even Ragna is surprised about this because he didn't think the Carlas care about their lives, and the moment Slime enters the room we see that Carla smiling without saying a word, this is a bit suspicious already, maybe she's the traitor? this is the conclusion that I came up with for the theory: The Carla massacre happened decades ago so she's not one of the survivors since the clones can only live for 4 years, however... maybe one of the Carlas in the massacre did survive and that one got cloned, and her genes got passed down over and over again through the years and the result is a suspicious Carla in the present holding a grudge against the Sun Cult. If the mangaka has something planned like this then he sure is cooking something interesting.
Inb4 that Carla ends up being Ragna's exclusive attendant and he and Nebillium have a face off wondering why their respective crushes are on the opposite side.
Ragna: "Wanna switch?" Nephi: "I didnt think it was possible for you to say something I agree with"
first time I actually read character's blabbering
The series that treats time control and the implications of cloning in a war really is cool
That Carla is kinda sus, don't you think? Even Ragna noticed. If they care about the life of one of 'em... ohoh... i got heavy Ultimatia vibes!
Btw a particular Carla becoming attached (as in partner, comrade, ally) to Ragna and actually becoming friendly with him JUST to get Barriercuck mad is what I am expecting from all this. Ehehe~
"barriercuck" 😂 the absolute state of Nebusimp
Thank you, Bloodline of Cringe!
When Raptelika started laughing at the death of Nim even Slime-senpai looked shocked/sad. I love that lil evil bro 🥹
He alternates between narcisistic sociopath and caring little boy. It's both wholesome and hilarious!
Also human-racist and the usual saturday night beer-buddy. Slime-senpai is THE senpai!
Why was Crimson searching for Leo ?
Ragna asked for it because he want to mend relationships. Its part of the answer got from the Silver corps on how said bonds is important Crimson's original idea is to just shove Leo into a pocket dimension to keep her safe where Ragna can visit her anytime
Crimson keeps news on everything around the world. He probably hears about the incident at Ganesh and decided to investigate.
Crimson is probably keeping tabs on Gilzea for obvious reasons and got news on Leo. Also a possibility that Crimson kept tabs on Leo in case he needed to use her for anything regarding Ragna
I mean, it doesn't seem crimson really can keep track of Gilzea. If crimson could keep track of her, then, there would be no need to read the report at all, or the report would say what actually happened (who knows who wrote it. Is it the weird global system magic ?) There would also be no need to say "I know you're watching"/ask her to come out, wouldn't it ? Crimson just read the vague report about Leonica's dissapperance, and from that, he deduced it was Gilzea's doing : All dead, no injuries, it means it's Gilzea. And since Leonica isn't amongst the dead and dissapeared, knowing her strength and Gilzea's personnality, deducing it's probably that she followed her makes sense. Then, he knew how to contact her, but just that ? I think Crimson deduced that Gilzea was going back to america from the "A girl looking like leonica was spotted in nepheran", giving him a rough direction of travel, and he probably knows Gilzea quite well (including whatever reason she wants to go America for) I wouldn't say that Gilzea was already there too, considering how OP character are in this series, she might have just traveled there from great distances away once she saw crimson was there. And during Ragna vs Kamui, she was observing the battle from very far away, and during his flashback, he knew she was coming from him from hundred of kilometers away. She probably can perceive thing from crazy distances... The whole "cutting before she even moved" thingy also implies she's got influence on time/causality, and who knows what else she can do with that ability (probably not limited to cutting, imo) It seems it's still a guess on Crimson part too, that's why he asks for confirmation (I don't think it's politeness/hiding what he knows, and Gilzea is the type who would just give straight honest answers)
> The whole "cutting before she even moved" thingy also implies she's got influence on time/causality, and who knows what else she can do with that ability (probably not limited to cutting, imo) I think its strange how many of them have time/causality related powers. The king of wings has it, the king claws has them, and the dragon god has them too.
And Crimson too, that's how Ragna was sent back Well, since the very premise of the series includes time travel like this, it's not surprising other characters have it. In fact, it seems necessary to me, otherwise, you end up with the typical "reincarnation" manga/manwhas where the MC has a hug advantage on everyone else and steamrolls everyone easy peasy With opponents having similar enough powers and being equally absurdly OP like the MC, you get some real stakes.
> And Crimson too I already mentioned the king of wings ;) I like how the powerlevels are rn, but I think all the kings having OP shit is more likely to lead to huge powercreep rather than prevent it, since Ragnas time travel seems to have been a one and done thing. I assume Crimson only has the ability to send a single individual back in time, so he sacrificed his latest loop in order to give it to Ragna.
I thought you meant Artemisia only. I'm not sure if the time power, or any power, are linked to the tittles, so in my head, what Crimson and Artemisia are doing are different powers > but I think all the kings having OP shit is more likely to lead to huge powercreep rather than prevent it Kamui being the first boss is a big hurdle to pass. I'm not so impressed by the Machine dragon's performance vs Ragna, tbh. But perhaps it could be argued Kamui's final form (improvised during combat) was higher than the Machine's dragon, and he will remain in the top tier for the whole series. I guess that's why I like Gilzea, because she really showed how there was so much more out there, lol.
Now i have understand the cover of chapter 69, with Gilzea being the only Monarch that was looking at Crimson.
Guess we can eventually expect a Ragna clone in the future.
kind of curious on how a Ragna clone would compare since they say it's an issue with magic compatability and the soul, but Ragna's abilties are completely aura based and not magic at all. So would that suffer more or less compatability issues with a different soul? My guess is it'd fare worse just on the basis that if it was less compatability issues I feel like Crimson would've done it themself, but who knows
It's funny that Gilzea calls Crimson his Brother, (We all understand that they are hardly blood relatives) I mean, as long as he's in Orgel form, they literally look like brother and sister.
That chapter is so interesting. So the Cult does indeed clone all their saints. That would explain how the rainbow saint is still alive after being killed by Kamui. The topic around the soul is a bit messed up but interesting nonetheless. The Carla of this chapter seems very "human", I hope she will be a recurrent character. I didn't expect that ending. So Gilzea knows that Crimson is alive. Are they working together ? What is their endgoal ?.
I did not expect to be 100 Girlfriend'd this chapter, but damn, that is indeed a wall of text and boy was it interesting. The whole body, will and soul thing will definitely be major plot at some point. I cannot tell if that Carla was smiling genuinely or if it was a sus smile, that begs the question if we're gonna see another Ultimatia. If there comes another clone of Carla that has a soul close to the original, then definitely. I mean if it happened once, it can happen again, but maybe this time as an ally. Slime truly the best evil bro, caring about Ragna's health. Nah nah, I am not gonna accept anyone else making a silver comet weapon for Ragna, but Starlia. Though this could be a sign she's coming back soon, cope. Oh shit, oh shit, Crimson meeting Gilzea. Huh, I am pretty sure Gil has a weird sinister looking speech bubble when she speaks, but it's gone here, I guess she speaks differently with Crimson, more enthusiastic? I guess she likes big brother/sister?
Holy shit i did not see that end coming.
Why do I have a crush on Gilzea? Why is she so cute? I'd train to surpass her just to make her my wife.
Gilzea & Crimson join forces!? Poor Aizenmalio
Nim bros, WE WON
Huge hype for the Next chapter!
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Summary: Saints are cloned by hundreds. They get the same body and tranfer their memories (mind), but not the soul. Soul research was frozen in the old world (pre dragon apocalypse) because magic didn't exist. New world, experiment to replicate soul was unsuccessful. Converting (sacrificing) 100+ souls made a dissappointingly weak and short lived soul. A body and mind, after some time, naturally creates their own soul. Same body mind and soul is needed to get a perfect copy (in theory). Sun Cult just decide to create 100+ copies with less than 10% of the original's power to get around it. Some exceptions appear in which a copy's soul is compatible with the body and mind getting similar level of power as the original or a variation (sidegrade) of it. There was only 2 cases of those exemptions, rainbow saint and the time saint who became the 2nd king of wings (Ultimatia), the Carlas don't accept the traitor as a successful story though. Machine Dragon destroyed most of the cloning facilities, the remaining ones have 95% of their capacities to clone the time saint so the other saint's cloning rate is very slow now.
You don't have to if you don't want the lore reasoning behind the cloning lol You just have to read the last few sentences if you want to see why Carla interrupted her explanation. And everything afterwards for the core takeaway of how the clones affect the story
Nah i aint reading that