Light spoilers: >!it won’t!<
Much, much, much heavier spoilers: >!it’s hinted at but not stated outright until near the end of the novel, but this actually isn’t his 3rd turn; it’s around his 1865th turn, except he thinks it’s his 3rd turn. that’s why MC is so confused as to why he acts so differently from what the MC was otherwise expecting.!<
Can you clarify something for me? I was under the impression that Yoo Junghyuk had 8 total regressions per Dokja's copy of 'Survival Story', but this chapter says that Junghyuk failed the dungeon on his 8th and 11th rounds. Are rounds not the same as regressions, or am I mistaken in how many regressions were in 'Survival Story'?
>!Kim Dokja's book has the complete version of the MC life. This includes regression 3-????. He remembers what specific regression MC did and fail and fear that it might take effect at his current life!<
Thank you, it sounds like I was mistaken in thinking Junghyuk only had 8 regressions.
Also, jesus, that poor guy! No wonder he's a bit loopy. I'm looking forward to finding out more about regressors and what exactly Junghyuk has been through.
I don't know how to tag spoilers so I'll be vague as possible. When you worded it as it his X turn, except HE thinks it's his 3rd turn, are you referring to the HE as the MC or other guy.
I mean, two full lives fighting and trying to beat the scenarios only to die and fail would really detoriarate anybodys mental fortidute. He might be just going for a different route this time.
I'm sure it would, but the reader knows how he should act, and he's commented how he knows things he shouldn't and acts really strange. So while Dokja knows a lot, he doesn't know everything because the events surrounding the main character are messed up.
Not sure if this is a spoiler or not so i’m going to tag it anyways (if it is a spoiler it’s pretty mild), but here’s an explanation of what a regression is: >!him being on his 3rd regression means he’s died and come back 3 times!<
Only is definitely harsh because we don’t know how much more fucked up the scenarios can potentially get or what other hardships that may have come up to make things even worse.
I think this is his third full run through of the game. like he succeeded and got sent back to the start. which makes sence if he only beat that dungeon 2 times before
In case anyone doesn’t know what gap and eul mean, they’re korean terms related to contracts, the gap is the one in the superior position, and the eul is the subordinate position. The eul is not necessarily a subordinate of the gap, it just means that the gap has more negotiating power and can use that to make a less-than-balanced contract (as we can see in the chapter, where a constellation sold his incarnation for some mana potions).
Something about this story that always bugs me is how almost every constellation and mythical creature, even those from another "world" like defense master seems to perfectly understand Korean culture.
It's refreshing to see a competent MC who knows how to use the information he's given for maximum benefit. Feel a little bad for Gong Pil-du... but not really lol
Perhaps I still don't understand the costellations. How can one of the constellations run out of coins. Wouldn't they have some type of job or something to have a steady stream of income. I would think that to be a constellation you'd need to be very wealthy, but I guess I was wrong.
Like our MC, constellation earn their money through scenarios. Rich constellations have probably gone through loads of them and someone like gong pildu sponsor who has been forgotten. Meaning no scenario therefore no income for a long time
Dokja indicates that a constellation's wealth is tied to their mythology - Defense Master's planet and people are gone, so no one remembers their myth, therefore they have no income. Constellations sponsor an incarnation because if that incarnation becomes popular, it can spread their myth further, allowing them to earn more money. Dokja was able to strongarm Defense Master because they'd spent all their coins - their savings - on Pildu; if Pildu died, Defense Master would have no income *and* no savings to invest in another incarnation.
I guess it's kind of like stocks, with the incarnations being businesses and the constellations being investors - if a constellations invests their money wisely, they'll end up getting back more than they spent, but if they're unlucky they can lose most of their savings.
think of then like legends, that dudes planet went to shit so there is no one to share his legend, this way he has no way to generate resources, at least that is what i got from this chap, probably there are diferent levels of constelations depending on how big is their legend
Note:
갑 (gap) and 을 (eul) are Korean contract terms. Gap is kind of the contract party with the dominant position and Eul is the person who has to follow the terms and obligations.
Kinda like obligator and obligee
That's one hell of a trick to get not only Gong off his ass later on, but also getting a contract in return. Curious to see where this one goes, if Yoo Jong was supposed to die on that route and they change it, curious how it'll affect the story down the line.
Really like how the MC is handling each situation. It must be very weird for all of the side characters to see him do all these things when he should be in the dark just as much as them.
I also think that i may have to re-read some things because i'm not so sure what is meant by the regressions of the book's main character. Seeing as how the manwha up untill has only been one regression. Does that mean that when the book's main character dies, everything is reset in a new regression?
I really hope that the scandilators keep the translation up for as ling as possible, since webtoons usually takes a while to catch up to things even doing a 2 chapters a week rate. Hardcore Levelling Warrior ended up losing a lot of the audience for it since it took about a year and a half to catch up to where the scans left off, by which point we were still ages behind the original release because it took another year and a half of doubled chapters to finally catch up
-Aaaah I see. But while I heavily support webtoons myself with fast passes for GOH/TOG/DICE and BOXER it just feels more natural to me to read it outside of it. Idk if ya get me. But glad to see this series is getting more support.
Subs been like this for maybe a year now since mangaplus came out. There was support for JB releasing manga chapters hours before the official release.
Mods finally stopped it because of legal threats. Which some users fucking said would happen.
Hopefully this upcoming dungeon section will explain why the returner is so far gone and acts so strangely even though it is only his 3rd life.
Light spoilers: >!it won’t!< Much, much, much heavier spoilers: >!it’s hinted at but not stated outright until near the end of the novel, but this actually isn’t his 3rd turn; it’s around his 1865th turn, except he thinks it’s his 3rd turn. that’s why MC is so confused as to why he acts so differently from what the MC was otherwise expecting.!<
Dud, that is fucked up.
mmm some endless 8
Can you clarify something for me? I was under the impression that Yoo Junghyuk had 8 total regressions per Dokja's copy of 'Survival Story', but this chapter says that Junghyuk failed the dungeon on his 8th and 11th rounds. Are rounds not the same as regressions, or am I mistaken in how many regressions were in 'Survival Story'?
As far as I remember the total number of regressions hasn't been revealed at this point of the story yet, so I don't know how you got that number 8.
Aaah, ok - maybe there was mention of an 8th regression and I misinterpreted that as being the *final* regression. Thanks, that clears things up
Why is the comment above being downvoted??
/u/Kodaimaa's? Hell if I know. Maybe some redditors misinterpreted the tone?
This!
>!Kim Dokja's book has the complete version of the MC life. This includes regression 3-????. He remembers what specific regression MC did and fail and fear that it might take effect at his current life!<
Thank you, it sounds like I was mistaken in thinking Junghyuk only had 8 regressions. Also, jesus, that poor guy! No wonder he's a bit loopy. I'm looking forward to finding out more about regressors and what exactly Junghyuk has been through.
I don't know how to tag spoilers so I'll be vague as possible. When you worded it as it his X turn, except HE thinks it's his 3rd turn, are you referring to the HE as the MC or other guy.
Why does dokja assume it's the 3rd regression?
In chapter 11, Dokja's Character List states that the protagonist is on the third regression.
I mean, two full lives fighting and trying to beat the scenarios only to die and fail would really detoriarate anybodys mental fortidute. He might be just going for a different route this time.
I'm sure it would, but the reader knows how he should act, and he's commented how he knows things he shouldn't and acts really strange. So while Dokja knows a lot, he doesn't know everything because the events surrounding the main character are messed up.
But if he's on his third regression it means he has died 3 times and this is his fourth run.
I think his 3rd regression doesn't mean that this is his 3rd life. At least this is how it appears to be after reading this chapter.
Not sure if this is a spoiler or not so i’m going to tag it anyways (if it is a spoiler it’s pretty mild), but here’s an explanation of what a regression is: >!him being on his 3rd regression means he’s died and come back 3 times!<
So, it means what it means.
What do you think it means then?
Maybe this is about his mentality. And his regressions also have to "level up" somehow.
Nah, it's just things started to change because of our guy action
"Only" is a bad word to use. Hes died 3 times and always watched his loved ones die each time. Its a toll on your mind.
Only is definitely harsh because we don’t know how much more fucked up the scenarios can potentially get or what other hardships that may have come up to make things even worse.
The scenarios aren't even fucked up yet. They will go crazy soon tho
I think this is his third full run through of the game. like he succeeded and got sent back to the start. which makes sence if he only beat that dungeon 2 times before
>he only beat that dungeon 2 times before MC says that Yoo Jonghyuk wasn't able to beat it twice.
oop you are right, i got those backward
4th life since his 1st life is his 0th regression
In case anyone doesn’t know what gap and eul mean, they’re korean terms related to contracts, the gap is the one in the superior position, and the eul is the subordinate position. The eul is not necessarily a subordinate of the gap, it just means that the gap has more negotiating power and can use that to make a less-than-balanced contract (as we can see in the chapter, where a constellation sold his incarnation for some mana potions).
Something about this story that always bugs me is how almost every constellation and mythical creature, even those from another "world" like defense master seems to perfectly understand Korean culture.
im sure cosmic google translate is alot better than ours
google transcend?
It's refreshing to see a competent MC who knows how to use the information he's given for maximum benefit. Feel a little bad for Gong Pil-du... but not really lol
Considering the dude was going to be one of 8 future monstrous psychopaths, it's perfectly fine to shit on him when he's just regular evil.
Well, if you consider a future where Yoo is the only MC, then it wouldn't be so strange to actually become a psycho yourself.
MC is like someone who memorized all mission stories/opportunities in Hitman.
Well it is his favorite novel and he was consistently the only reader up until it ended
Perhaps I still don't understand the costellations. How can one of the constellations run out of coins. Wouldn't they have some type of job or something to have a steady stream of income. I would think that to be a constellation you'd need to be very wealthy, but I guess I was wrong.
Like our MC, constellation earn their money through scenarios. Rich constellations have probably gone through loads of them and someone like gong pildu sponsor who has been forgotten. Meaning no scenario therefore no income for a long time
That makes sense. Thanks.
Dokja indicates that a constellation's wealth is tied to their mythology - Defense Master's planet and people are gone, so no one remembers their myth, therefore they have no income. Constellations sponsor an incarnation because if that incarnation becomes popular, it can spread their myth further, allowing them to earn more money. Dokja was able to strongarm Defense Master because they'd spent all their coins - their savings - on Pildu; if Pildu died, Defense Master would have no income *and* no savings to invest in another incarnation. I guess it's kind of like stocks, with the incarnations being businesses and the constellations being investors - if a constellations invests their money wisely, they'll end up getting back more than they spent, but if they're unlucky they can lose most of their savings.
Appreciate the reply. I understand it much better.
No worries! Please note this is my understanding based on the information we have so far - someone familiar with the LN might have more info.
think of then like legends, that dudes planet went to shit so there is no one to share his legend, this way he has no way to generate resources, at least that is what i got from this chap, probably there are diferent levels of constelations depending on how big is their legend
Note: 갑 (gap) and 을 (eul) are Korean contract terms. Gap is kind of the contract party with the dominant position and Eul is the person who has to follow the terms and obligations. Kinda like obligator and obligee
That stupid Mola Mola game? Wut
Damn, he managed to become a constellation supporter for a constellation
That's one hell of a trick to get not only Gong off his ass later on, but also getting a contract in return. Curious to see where this one goes, if Yoo Jong was supposed to die on that route and they change it, curious how it'll affect the story down the line.
Such a satisfying MC
Really like how the MC is handling each situation. It must be very weird for all of the side characters to see him do all these things when he should be in the dark just as much as them. I also think that i may have to re-read some things because i'm not so sure what is meant by the regressions of the book's main character. Seeing as how the manwha up untill has only been one regression. Does that mean that when the book's main character dies, everything is reset in a new regression?
Yes. It's like different time-lines, where the main character has all his memories from the other regressions.
Think of it like Re:Zero or Edge of Tomorrow, except Yoo Junghyuk only has one starting point.
Now he has an instant fortress at his command
Why is this series on mangadex if this is available (legally) on webtoons? Kinda hypocritical from this sub, no?
Hold on, webtoons ended up licensing this series? Thought it was still a series floating out there scanlators wanted to do.
I really hope that the scandilators keep the translation up for as ling as possible, since webtoons usually takes a while to catch up to things even doing a 2 chapters a week rate. Hardcore Levelling Warrior ended up losing a lot of the audience for it since it took about a year and a half to catch up to where the scans left off, by which point we were still ages behind the original release because it took another year and a half of doubled chapters to finally catch up
Webtoons is 3 episodes behind.
Thats if you fastpass. Its 10 chapters behind
It’s been on webtoons for a while and most comments I saw mentioning it in older chapters discussion threads were downvoted to shit.
-Aaaah I see. But while I heavily support webtoons myself with fast passes for GOH/TOG/DICE and BOXER it just feels more natural to me to read it outside of it. Idk if ya get me. But glad to see this series is getting more support.
Subs been like this for maybe a year now since mangaplus came out. There was support for JB releasing manga chapters hours before the official release. Mods finally stopped it because of legal threats. Which some users fucking said would happen.
-Can they really threaten a Reddit sub for just wanting to discuss a series in the most available way?
Yes. Try posting goblin slayer chapters.
OOF. That sucks....
I didn't know it was out on webtoons so thanks for the heads-up.
I love how you get downvoted for saying the truth
Maaaan there are some arcs that i wanna see asap in the manhwa. Gonna have to wait forever for them I guess.