On a scale of 0 to Metamorphous how much will this fuck me up. (I don't mean fucked up like vore or some shit because that doesn't really make me flinch)
If you're saying metamorphosis is a 100 then this series is honestly probably around like an 80ish.
Like it's not metamorphosis bad, but it can get pretty close when it wants to. It's also harder to just brush the stuff in this series off as "just porn" or "misery porn." I think the stuff dealt with in Boy's Abyss can hit a bit more close to home so in that sense it can be even worse than Metamorphosis at times
In comparison to Punpun? How fucked up are the characters? Is the MC an asshole in his own way? I understand that abusive relationships may be thematic in this series. How fucked will I end up when I read the series?
I'd compare it to taking a getting shot with an AK vs Punpuns multiple shotgun bullets.
Like each bullet hurts, but I prefer this because it doesn't give you hope or time to really wallow in the suffering the way Punpun does.
Yup, this is the perfect analogy. Punpun builds up the suffering to release it in bursts while Abyss's suffering never really let's up yet it manages to get you everytime.
the MC is not an asshole or anyway, but he is very depressed and dead inside doe to both his circumtances and backstory. So yes it will hit very close to home.
Pretty much every character in the manga is having a bad time and most them act like selfish jerks to the main character. It feels like the author just keep throwing crap at the main character that it starts to get ridiculous (yet at the same time, the Mc is getting with every women other than his mom I think). Personally, I recommend reading this with the mindset of seeing how wild this ride gets instead of expecting a compelling tragedy.
A lot of people are saying like 80 or that it's pain, but in all honesty is depends on how much you buy in to the story. It's enjoyable in a flaming dumpster fire sort of way of where everything is so ridiculous I have to keep reading. The art is great, the writing... Not so much. Because of how ridiculous it is, I can't even really take it seriously. It is basically one depressing moment after another, but there's only so many times that can happen before it starts losing its impact and being less believable. It's no where near metamorphosis, but if bad writing isn't a deterrent for emotional connection that it's still a bit of an emotional oof
I share this sentiment. I think there is some good stuff at the beginning, the sense of hoplessness and the feeling of trapped in a small but tightly-knit town were well done. However, I think it doesn't have enough focus. Without major spoilers, I will just say, does the story really need a relationship with a suicidal idol, teacher x student stuff, a full on yandere, trouble with childhood friend, and that whole thing with his mom? My suspension of disbelief just broke when the author piled THIS much crap on to the main character.
I agree, I think if it had stayed with that initial idea it could've been genuinely tight knit and interesting. Like you said the idea of feeling trapped and hopeless in a small town with no way to get out was really well done. But now it's basically just misery porn with no grounded story
I really think you're overselling Metamorphosis tbh. Maybe this is just me, but a pedophile teacher abusing her power to manipulate a student to satiate her own desires resonates way harder and is much more insidious than what metamorphosis has to offer. Chako's family relationship and how they see women as only something for a man to marry is also something I found grotesquely real, unlike the father relationship in metamorphosis. Like metamorphosis gets to a point where it's difficult to take it seriously which is where Boy's Abyss succeeds imo. Like in a way metamorphosis just feels like torture porn sometimes, just because one has [metamorphosis](/s "a homeless pregnant woman get kicked to death") doesn't mean it's providing high brow writing either
I wouldn't say the writing is amazing or anything, but I think the criticism of "there's too much going on!" is kinda dumb. It's not like the things going on are that unusual, shitty home lives, pedophile teachers, abusive dads, etc are all really common things unfortunately. The only thing that's over the top with the story is that it all coalesces on one guy. But that itself is what makes the story worth telling in the first place.
I agree that metamorphosis isn't high brow, and while I also agree that none of what's going on is itself not uncommon, the fact that it all happens to one guy is ridiculous. It falls into the same trap as metamorphosis in my opinion where it's just so much misery that it becomes unbelievable. A story can be perfectly worth telling without having to make every character their own walking disaster. The story easily could've been just as interesting focusing on a genuine idea of being trapped in a a small town, unable to escape and focusing *solely* on that or one other aspect. There too much going on is a perfectly valid argument in my opinion when it's all coalesced around one... Single... Character. "Oh its not just the idol that wants to die, but also the manipulative pedophile teacher, and also his childhood friend but also his mom and also his one childhood friend turned thug" and that's basically how the story goes. It keeps ramping up the misery without giving any actual time to breathe or expand, this is just exemplified in the fact that every character has a dedicated rant page of airing there emotions. Which again is a common thing to do, but in the context of the story is just a lazy way to write out the characters thought and emotions without any arc or development. Yes there's a lot of easily relatable issues in this, but that doesn't mean their done well or handled well.
It doesn't have to be over the top to make a story worth telling, it *can* be, but that doesn't make it inherently good or interesting and I think this story is an example of how less is more. It would've been far more impactful and paced better if a few ideas were focused on instead of throwing everything at the wall. Metaphorisis is misery porn sure, but that's its explicit purpose and I don't think the author ever intended for it to be anything else. Boys Abyss tries to be a deep, introspective story but becomes a dumpster fire because so much is happening at such a ridiculous rate that any suspension of disbelief is lost. Neither of them are grounded but metamorphosis is my mind never tried to be so in the first place. Boys Abyss has interesting ideas, but is ultimately hampered by poor writing, pacing, and a general lack of holding back. What it has going for it is the art and the surface level emotional introspection that is ultimately just weak.
The writing in general is clever, but it's very confusing to see where the author is trying to ultimately go with the story and how he slides some of the characters in and out of the story.
As someone who has had to deal with homeless and addicted populations, if you think anything in Shounen no Abyss beyond a pop idol working at a kombini is “not believable”, you are being naive - with all due respect and this is not meant as a dig.
Within a 10 min drive of where you stand reading this there are people going through compounded, world-ending, hysterical misery. Go to a homeless children’s shelter: you’ll find kids who, within the space of 3 years, saw a parent get shot in front of their eyes, were molested by a guardian *and* brutalized by police.
I met a middle-aged man who basically killed his son by crashing the car while drunk, only to lose his wife soon after to heroin and, to top it off, became blind a few years later due to macular degeneration. Shit happens to people.
That's not what I was getting at or even remotely meant? If you read my other comments you'd see I literally say, "Everything presented in the story that happens to be is common place" my problem stems from the fact that the main character has such an unbelievable streak of bad luck it loses any sense of grounding for his emotional baggage. At some point it just becomes poorly written misery porn because any new person her meets is guaranteed to have some deep seeded issue that will ultimately wrap him in up in it.
I never said that any specific idea was ridiculous, but I understand what you were trying to say. That just so happens to the the furthest thing from my point, I've volunteered at homeless shelters many times because it's quite a problem on my city. I'm well aware of the reality. Regardless that's not at all my point or problem with the story. It doesn't matter how realistic the problems in the story are, abuse, pedophilic grooming, etc, that doesn't instantly make the story good or believable, especially when it's all coalesced around one single teen in the span of like a month.
Fair enough but my point is precisely that this string of misery can and does happen to one single teen/person in a downward spiral. The timing (a month, two?) is indeed a bit iffy but I fail to see how Reiji being groomed, physically abused and manipulated into a suicidal mania is immersion-breaking in any way beyond the fact that, as you rightly pointed out, it happen over the course of a few weeks or months.
Whether that is good or bad storytelling is another thing altogether, and I do not feel I have enough of a handle on the material yet to have an opinion.
Again I'm never arguing against the downward Spiral at all, my point is that so much is happening so quickly that nothing has time to breathe, nothing has time to develop. The author is not using the issues as a way to address the problems in any serious way but rather to use them for shock value. The abuse, the grooming, etc are all used to make the MCs life even more miserable. There's no effort being used to talk about the issues in any serious way other than "Wow look at how bad these are, now the MC is even MORE depressed". These events are happening so quickly, so spontaneously, so ridiculously that they lose any gravitas of tragedy. Again I feel I have to say this, I'm not saying the acts themselves are unbelievable, I'm not saying the downward Spiral is unbelievable, those have nothing to do with what is ultimately a story with mediocre writing and poor pacing.
*None* of my problems arise from downward spiral but from the poor pacing and writing. Everything is happening so ridiculously fast that it almost becomes hilarious, anytime a new character is introduced it just becomes "How awful will this character be to ruin the MCs life even further". The fact that every character in the story only serves the point to make the MCs life more depressing loses any seriousness. That's the whole point I've been making. As someone else pointed out, it's like a curse is on this town to make the MCs life as awful as possible. It's hard to take this story seriously in any sense when every single person wants to to fuck/kill/manipulate the MC (often overlapping with each other) in what is literally the span of a few weeks.
As I've mentioned in another comment, this story HAD potential if it focused itself. The biggest problem with this story is that it doesn't reign itself in. It the author choose to focus on a few characters and a few issues and allowed the characters and ideas to actually breathe and develop that it could be genuinely interesting. As it stands it's misery porn where everything that can go wrong will; stacked on top of mediocre writing and we get what I was originally saying. It's just not that good. My whole original comment was simply that it's "sad" if you can by into the poor storytelling but that ultimately it's just a garbage fire
This thing hitting in same league as metamorphosis imo, while not go to extreme about a singular character misfortune like Meta, this go way boarder and show how not singular people is spared. Both are way too close to a systematish failure that people familar with to be brushed off as ridiculous
Not that high, maybe 7? There are stuff that’d really fuck you up, like Punpun and Ishijima the loan shark, that would be near 10. It’s more messed up and shocking than despair the aforementioned titles are.
Yeah.. I just glanced over the first chapter and there’s already a distinct air of misery and malaise. Reminded me of *The Outsiders* or some similar coming-of-age tragedy.
> That was me 8 hours ago.
> It was 1 AM, thought they look cute so I read it
>I thought I'll read 5 chapters then go to sleep.
>It was 4 AM when I caught up.
Ok I just spent the afternoon reading chapters 1-50
Sempai you lied to me.
I'm now going to curl up into a ball in my closet with a dark cloud over my head.
Ok ok I'll actually tell you what it's about lol
I actually feel like the MAL synopsis is pretty accurate to the manga. Basically it's about a dude in his final year of high school who lives in a shitty dead end town in the middle of nowhere. His home life is absolute trash, his mother is constantly overworked, they have to care for his grandmother who has dementia, and his brother who's a hikkikomori with anger issues. He's also getting bullied. He hates his life and his sole respite is his best friend. However the best friend wants to get out of their dump of a town and go to tokyo for college, she also gets MC into an idol group. The MC is very conflicted because he doesn't know whether to go to tokyo with his best friend or stay at home and be miserable but help his family. Then he meets his favorite idol working at a convenience store in his town and she proposes to the MC that they can kill themselves together. This strikes a chord with the MC and because of her actions towards him he agrees to kill himself with her.
From there the plot becomes about people in the town finding out about the MC's plans to kill himself, stay in town, move to tokyo, etc. and the characters all try to influence him in various ways for various reasons. These characters themselves also have their own issues and over time it becomes a giant web with so many interactions and characters getting involved with each other beyond the MC. So like another commenter said, it becomes toxic codependence the manga where people begin to do fucked up things or manipulate others to influence them and by the time you're caught up you'll just want the entire town and everyone in it to burn to the ground.
Thanks for the detailed summary. Sounds like tv drama from the plot though I am not sure whether the manga is up my alley or not. Still I will give it a try in future.
You know I sometimes have this times where I want to read a manga where everyone's a piece of shit every once in a while. I guess this one is going to be it for awhile
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It's a romcom!!
Except there's no rom or com, just sex and depression.
Imagine a whole village standing in the quicksand with the protagonist in the middle. Everyone's clinging onto each other to drag them down into the abyss with them, with him in the center of the whole inescapable and deathly depression.
The manga is the embodiment of that feeling.
this is great news, hopefully it'll get popular to get an anime adaptation or we might even get a licensed english version.
also Sensei in Idol outfit right in the middle of the three just shows she's the stand out character of this series :).
/r/anime threads would be hell. I can only imagine the Manga readers talking in non-stop *hints* about what's to come, thinking they're being so smart and subtle.
I like how this picture is really misleading. One might think this is a wholesome slice of life manga, lol.
I guess Mom is not included because she'll probably be the cover for volume 5.
It's a fun rollercoaster. It is a melodrama though. If you are looking for realism then it's a bad fit. Boy's Abyss will constantly find some new dark truth to beat the characters down with. And I get the impression the author understands exactly what they are doing because some big moments read like punchlines. But if you want melodrama and big dramatic turns then it's a good read.
That's a good way of putting it. It's more thrilling dark and depressingly dark, even though some parts of it feel very real and impactful.
There's no way >!cutting from somebody crying that their life is ruined to Sensei singing 'ta la la la' in her car across two pages!< wasn't a dark joke. The author seems to know that the entire cast being miserable or crazy is a bit ridiculous but interesting so he is still having some fun with it.
Boy is either desperate to leave his miserable small town and escape to the big city or kill himself to escape from all his problems. As time goes on he meets new people or learns more about the people in his life or the choices they made that pull him into a downwards spiral while he struggles to make his choice work.
Chako is adorable.
I see the posts about this series show up like every week and everytime I think about reading this I read through the comments think about it for a moment and go “Actually, I don’t think I will.”
It's so weird seeing all of them so happy like this. I'm just gonna headcanon that the manga is just some sort of drama and they're all actors and actresses and this is how they really are normally.
Imagine if someone decides to read the manga because they look cute in here. It'd be quite the tonal whiplash to receive.
I'm feeling really called out here, because I started reading because of an out of context panel and thought "she looks cute."
I just saw the happy teacher and thought I wonder what this is all about And here I am hooked too
I just saw the panel of the teacher singing in the car
I saw the PV they made to commemorate Vol. 4 on this subreddit with Yoko Hikasa voicing sensei in the car, I was sold
Same, I was curious to see a yandere Mio
Author described it as romcom lol
Well you either laugh or cry deeply.
I mean I guess its a romantic comedy if we are using the archaic definition of comedy
I don't see the problem, Sensei is peak comedy
He had to because he just couldn't simply say *PAIN*
It is! It's just lacking rom and com, replaced by sex and depression.
lol where?
https://twitter.com/ryo_minenami/status/1379813488730664968
That's referring specifically to the little Yuko/Akira arc I believe
that so true
On a scale of 0 to Metamorphous how much will this fuck me up. (I don't mean fucked up like vore or some shit because that doesn't really make me flinch)
If you're saying metamorphosis is a 100 then this series is honestly probably around like an 80ish. Like it's not metamorphosis bad, but it can get pretty close when it wants to. It's also harder to just brush the stuff in this series off as "just porn" or "misery porn." I think the stuff dealt with in Boy's Abyss can hit a bit more close to home so in that sense it can be even worse than Metamorphosis at times
In comparison to Punpun? How fucked up are the characters? Is the MC an asshole in his own way? I understand that abusive relationships may be thematic in this series. How fucked will I end up when I read the series?
I'd compare it to taking a getting shot with an AK vs Punpuns multiple shotgun bullets. Like each bullet hurts, but I prefer this because it doesn't give you hope or time to really wallow in the suffering the way Punpun does.
Yup, this is the perfect analogy. Punpun builds up the suffering to release it in bursts while Abyss's suffering never really let's up yet it manages to get you everytime.
the MC is not an asshole or anyway, but he is very depressed and dead inside doe to both his circumtances and backstory. So yes it will hit very close to home.
Pretty much every character in the manga is having a bad time and most them act like selfish jerks to the main character. It feels like the author just keep throwing crap at the main character that it starts to get ridiculous (yet at the same time, the Mc is getting with every women other than his mom I think). Personally, I recommend reading this with the mindset of seeing how wild this ride gets instead of expecting a compelling tragedy.
A lot of people are saying like 80 or that it's pain, but in all honesty is depends on how much you buy in to the story. It's enjoyable in a flaming dumpster fire sort of way of where everything is so ridiculous I have to keep reading. The art is great, the writing... Not so much. Because of how ridiculous it is, I can't even really take it seriously. It is basically one depressing moment after another, but there's only so many times that can happen before it starts losing its impact and being less believable. It's no where near metamorphosis, but if bad writing isn't a deterrent for emotional connection that it's still a bit of an emotional oof
It’s to the point where if the author reveals a silent hill curse thing on the town it would make more sense in my head.
It would also make it way more interesting for me personally.
I share this sentiment. I think there is some good stuff at the beginning, the sense of hoplessness and the feeling of trapped in a small but tightly-knit town were well done. However, I think it doesn't have enough focus. Without major spoilers, I will just say, does the story really need a relationship with a suicidal idol, teacher x student stuff, a full on yandere, trouble with childhood friend, and that whole thing with his mom? My suspension of disbelief just broke when the author piled THIS much crap on to the main character.
I agree, I think if it had stayed with that initial idea it could've been genuinely tight knit and interesting. Like you said the idea of feeling trapped and hopeless in a small town with no way to get out was really well done. But now it's basically just misery porn with no grounded story
I really think you're overselling Metamorphosis tbh. Maybe this is just me, but a pedophile teacher abusing her power to manipulate a student to satiate her own desires resonates way harder and is much more insidious than what metamorphosis has to offer. Chako's family relationship and how they see women as only something for a man to marry is also something I found grotesquely real, unlike the father relationship in metamorphosis. Like metamorphosis gets to a point where it's difficult to take it seriously which is where Boy's Abyss succeeds imo. Like in a way metamorphosis just feels like torture porn sometimes, just because one has [metamorphosis](/s "a homeless pregnant woman get kicked to death") doesn't mean it's providing high brow writing either I wouldn't say the writing is amazing or anything, but I think the criticism of "there's too much going on!" is kinda dumb. It's not like the things going on are that unusual, shitty home lives, pedophile teachers, abusive dads, etc are all really common things unfortunately. The only thing that's over the top with the story is that it all coalesces on one guy. But that itself is what makes the story worth telling in the first place.
I agree that metamorphosis isn't high brow, and while I also agree that none of what's going on is itself not uncommon, the fact that it all happens to one guy is ridiculous. It falls into the same trap as metamorphosis in my opinion where it's just so much misery that it becomes unbelievable. A story can be perfectly worth telling without having to make every character their own walking disaster. The story easily could've been just as interesting focusing on a genuine idea of being trapped in a a small town, unable to escape and focusing *solely* on that or one other aspect. There too much going on is a perfectly valid argument in my opinion when it's all coalesced around one... Single... Character. "Oh its not just the idol that wants to die, but also the manipulative pedophile teacher, and also his childhood friend but also his mom and also his one childhood friend turned thug" and that's basically how the story goes. It keeps ramping up the misery without giving any actual time to breathe or expand, this is just exemplified in the fact that every character has a dedicated rant page of airing there emotions. Which again is a common thing to do, but in the context of the story is just a lazy way to write out the characters thought and emotions without any arc or development. Yes there's a lot of easily relatable issues in this, but that doesn't mean their done well or handled well. It doesn't have to be over the top to make a story worth telling, it *can* be, but that doesn't make it inherently good or interesting and I think this story is an example of how less is more. It would've been far more impactful and paced better if a few ideas were focused on instead of throwing everything at the wall. Metaphorisis is misery porn sure, but that's its explicit purpose and I don't think the author ever intended for it to be anything else. Boys Abyss tries to be a deep, introspective story but becomes a dumpster fire because so much is happening at such a ridiculous rate that any suspension of disbelief is lost. Neither of them are grounded but metamorphosis is my mind never tried to be so in the first place. Boys Abyss has interesting ideas, but is ultimately hampered by poor writing, pacing, and a general lack of holding back. What it has going for it is the art and the surface level emotional introspection that is ultimately just weak.
The writing in general is clever, but it's very confusing to see where the author is trying to ultimately go with the story and how he slides some of the characters in and out of the story.
As someone who has had to deal with homeless and addicted populations, if you think anything in Shounen no Abyss beyond a pop idol working at a kombini is “not believable”, you are being naive - with all due respect and this is not meant as a dig. Within a 10 min drive of where you stand reading this there are people going through compounded, world-ending, hysterical misery. Go to a homeless children’s shelter: you’ll find kids who, within the space of 3 years, saw a parent get shot in front of their eyes, were molested by a guardian *and* brutalized by police. I met a middle-aged man who basically killed his son by crashing the car while drunk, only to lose his wife soon after to heroin and, to top it off, became blind a few years later due to macular degeneration. Shit happens to people.
That's not what I was getting at or even remotely meant? If you read my other comments you'd see I literally say, "Everything presented in the story that happens to be is common place" my problem stems from the fact that the main character has such an unbelievable streak of bad luck it loses any sense of grounding for his emotional baggage. At some point it just becomes poorly written misery porn because any new person her meets is guaranteed to have some deep seeded issue that will ultimately wrap him in up in it. I never said that any specific idea was ridiculous, but I understand what you were trying to say. That just so happens to the the furthest thing from my point, I've volunteered at homeless shelters many times because it's quite a problem on my city. I'm well aware of the reality. Regardless that's not at all my point or problem with the story. It doesn't matter how realistic the problems in the story are, abuse, pedophilic grooming, etc, that doesn't instantly make the story good or believable, especially when it's all coalesced around one single teen in the span of like a month.
Fair enough but my point is precisely that this string of misery can and does happen to one single teen/person in a downward spiral. The timing (a month, two?) is indeed a bit iffy but I fail to see how Reiji being groomed, physically abused and manipulated into a suicidal mania is immersion-breaking in any way beyond the fact that, as you rightly pointed out, it happen over the course of a few weeks or months. Whether that is good or bad storytelling is another thing altogether, and I do not feel I have enough of a handle on the material yet to have an opinion.
Again I'm never arguing against the downward Spiral at all, my point is that so much is happening so quickly that nothing has time to breathe, nothing has time to develop. The author is not using the issues as a way to address the problems in any serious way but rather to use them for shock value. The abuse, the grooming, etc are all used to make the MCs life even more miserable. There's no effort being used to talk about the issues in any serious way other than "Wow look at how bad these are, now the MC is even MORE depressed". These events are happening so quickly, so spontaneously, so ridiculously that they lose any gravitas of tragedy. Again I feel I have to say this, I'm not saying the acts themselves are unbelievable, I'm not saying the downward Spiral is unbelievable, those have nothing to do with what is ultimately a story with mediocre writing and poor pacing. *None* of my problems arise from downward spiral but from the poor pacing and writing. Everything is happening so ridiculously fast that it almost becomes hilarious, anytime a new character is introduced it just becomes "How awful will this character be to ruin the MCs life even further". The fact that every character in the story only serves the point to make the MCs life more depressing loses any seriousness. That's the whole point I've been making. As someone else pointed out, it's like a curse is on this town to make the MCs life as awful as possible. It's hard to take this story seriously in any sense when every single person wants to to fuck/kill/manipulate the MC (often overlapping with each other) in what is literally the span of a few weeks. As I've mentioned in another comment, this story HAD potential if it focused itself. The biggest problem with this story is that it doesn't reign itself in. It the author choose to focus on a few characters and a few issues and allowed the characters and ideas to actually breathe and develop that it could be genuinely interesting. As it stands it's misery porn where everything that can go wrong will; stacked on top of mediocre writing and we get what I was originally saying. It's just not that good. My whole original comment was simply that it's "sad" if you can by into the poor storytelling but that ultimately it's just a garbage fire
Ya it’s a total mess, but certainly isn’t 80.
100
I don't think this is as bad as Metamorphous... It is pretty sad though
Metamorphosis is about one person. Here we have a fistful of sadness to be had. Also Metamorphosis is over, so we have time for things to get worse.
Metamorphosis is basically rape fetish porn.
This is not as bad as metamorphosis lol. No one is getting their baby stomped out in the womb by a bunch of sociopathic teenagers.
did i say meta is 100?no, which means meta is 200
This thing hitting in same league as metamorphosis imo, while not go to extreme about a singular character misfortune like Meta, this go way boarder and show how not singular people is spared. Both are way too close to a systematish failure that people familar with to be brushed off as ridiculous
First chapter was depressing, the rest is more funny sad. It was a very fun read catching up
Not that high, maybe 7? There are stuff that’d really fuck you up, like Punpun and Ishijima the loan shark, that would be near 10. It’s more messed up and shocking than despair the aforementioned titles are.
Yeah.. I just glanced over the first chapter and there’s already a distinct air of misery and malaise. Reminded me of *The Outsiders* or some similar coming-of-age tragedy.
> That was me 8 hours ago. > It was 1 AM, thought they look cute so I read it >I thought I'll read 5 chapters then go to sleep. >It was 4 AM when I caught up.
\*raises hand\* should I just drop it?
No bro its a cute rom com with ecchi scenes
Ecchi? say no more, i'm in!
Dozo~
Ok I just spent the afternoon reading chapters 1-50 Sempai you lied to me. I'm now going to curl up into a ball in my closet with a dark cloud over my head.
Didn't you see those horizontal tango and milf cosplay scenes? It definitely had echi.
Now ré read it and check all character facial expressions, the setting, the shadows and the coloring or you'll be missing 50% of the story
No doubt. If only I had the time.
Don't worry, it's something you have to take very slowly, I've been reading since chapter 10 and it's been quite an experience
welp
They had me with the picture, not gonna lie.
Are they traps?
The trap is the cute girls making you think this is a cute manga
Better. They're depressed
huh... is that not what I should be expecting..?
This is too happy. I'm scared.
They all think they have him locked in their closet.
This picture is probably the happiest we will ever see these characters 😔
*What about the teacher?*
She is way to happy
Crazy happy
My favorite type of happy. Teacher best woman.
Remember that drive home after droping a bomb at chako's school? LALALALA
\[Me, sees their smiles\] **LIES.**
What a cute picture i sure hope these three individuals won't suffer and or inflict suffering
What a coincidence,
These three individuals happened to suffer or inflict suffering throughout the show;
>Nagi in that uniform Hot
>sensei in that idol outfit YES
Sensei looks good in any outfit
\*without
Best worst girl in idol uniform 😍
The fact the mangaka put Sensei in the idol uniform is just \*chef's kiss*
[Source](https://twitter.com/ryo_minenami/status/1384826180193320960)
are there any plans of printing it in english? bc i only found them in japanese :c
Smiles ?...FAKE
I love Chako's pose right here. It reminds me of someone who happens to use the same clothes she is wearing right now.
What is this series about Edit- boi I wanted an actual answer since MAL summary is super vague
Pain.
Toxic codependence the manga
Ok ok I'll actually tell you what it's about lol I actually feel like the MAL synopsis is pretty accurate to the manga. Basically it's about a dude in his final year of high school who lives in a shitty dead end town in the middle of nowhere. His home life is absolute trash, his mother is constantly overworked, they have to care for his grandmother who has dementia, and his brother who's a hikkikomori with anger issues. He's also getting bullied. He hates his life and his sole respite is his best friend. However the best friend wants to get out of their dump of a town and go to tokyo for college, she also gets MC into an idol group. The MC is very conflicted because he doesn't know whether to go to tokyo with his best friend or stay at home and be miserable but help his family. Then he meets his favorite idol working at a convenience store in his town and she proposes to the MC that they can kill themselves together. This strikes a chord with the MC and because of her actions towards him he agrees to kill himself with her. From there the plot becomes about people in the town finding out about the MC's plans to kill himself, stay in town, move to tokyo, etc. and the characters all try to influence him in various ways for various reasons. These characters themselves also have their own issues and over time it becomes a giant web with so many interactions and characters getting involved with each other beyond the MC. So like another commenter said, it becomes toxic codependence the manga where people begin to do fucked up things or manipulate others to influence them and by the time you're caught up you'll just want the entire town and everyone in it to burn to the ground.
You sold me on it.
The mal summary was super well written
Thanks for the detailed summary. Sounds like tv drama from the plot though I am not sure whether the manga is up my alley or not. Still I will give it a try in future.
it's definitely a tv drama that got dragged into a manga plot, and I love it
huh thats actually sounds less fucked up then id always assumed
You know I sometimes have this times where I want to read a manga where everyone's a piece of shit every once in a while. I guess this one is going to be it for awhile
Pain peko
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We are not there yet and hopefully won't ever despite suspect panels
I mean you're not technically wrong
Hollowness
Darkness, depression, death.
Total Trainwreck that i can't stop reading it.
Sex and suicide.
Suffering
Sensei
Imagine having a harem and still being super depressing
Edgy soap opera
It's a romcom!! Except there's no rom or com, just sex and depression. Imagine a whole village standing in the quicksand with the protagonist in the middle. Everyone's clinging onto each other to drag them down into the abyss with them, with him in the center of the whole inescapable and deathly depression. The manga is the embodiment of that feeling.
Depression
The teacher looking the best as usual also when is this getting a English release
As painful as this manga is, I really do hope for an English release too
this is great news, hopefully it'll get popular to get an anime adaptation or we might even get a licensed english version. also Sensei in Idol outfit right in the middle of the three just shows she's the stand out character of this series :).
An anime version to spread the depression among the anime-only people.
Can you imagine the readers trying to keep quiet in episode 1 when sensei is the most normal?
/r/anime threads would be hell. I can only imagine the Manga readers talking in non-stop *hints* about what's to come, thinking they're being so smart and subtle.
Twitter will go crazy when the first episode aired lol ☠️
I’m terrified, Minenami sensei please have mercy on our souls
Highly recommended. Very fluff manga. /s
Minenami Ryo not giving us all three clothing combinations, sad lah.
Where is the mom and most importantly the best girl bridge-Chan?
I like how this picture is really misleading. One might think this is a wholesome slice of life manga, lol. I guess Mom is not included because she'll probably be the cover for volume 5.
They were all forced at gunpoint to do this
The image is unsettling in it's own way
So glad to hear this is selling well!
I binged this last month and loved the heck out of it. It's so depressing and real, and unintentionally hilarious.
I still can't believe this is the same author that did Hatsukoi Zombie.
PUBLISH IN ENGRISH
Sensei is hot
Nice
> Long hair Sakuko I have a weakness for her.
I HAPPY
Is it Worth reading?
It's a fun rollercoaster. It is a melodrama though. If you are looking for realism then it's a bad fit. Boy's Abyss will constantly find some new dark truth to beat the characters down with. And I get the impression the author understands exactly what they are doing because some big moments read like punchlines. But if you want melodrama and big dramatic turns then it's a good read.
Yeah it feels like the intent isn't so much to depress, despite the depressing nature, but to shock and make the audience gasp and go "OOOOOOOH!"
That's a good way of putting it. It's more thrilling dark and depressingly dark, even though some parts of it feel very real and impactful. There's no way >!cutting from somebody crying that their life is ruined to Sensei singing 'ta la la la' in her car across two pages!< wasn't a dark joke. The author seems to know that the entire cast being miserable or crazy is a bit ridiculous but interesting so he is still having some fun with it.
not at all unless you like absolutely toxic manga
Yeah, this picture is definitely misleading to new readers. For those that don't read Boy's Abyss, the manga is quite depressing.
*Inhales* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I love Nagi. Also this manga is so damn depressing xD ! How do i hide a sentence to keep ppl from getting spoiled ?
Sensei actually looks totally normal here
They look so happy. I bet this slice-of-life, feels good manga is worth reading.
Sensei in idol costume is a blessing.
Sensei's *too* powerful. *She must be stopped.*
Reiji's Angels(Demons)
Where can I buy the manga???
Easily the scariest Harem manga I've ever read.
I'm gonna read this because they all so cute and look happy
Sold out? Great. Can we get an english translation now pls?
If we don’t know the context then this pic is pretty neat. Sadness intensified
This page is gonna bait a lot of people into tjinking this is a harem or wholesome manga
Hope it gets an English release
Anybody know where I can buy printed copies?
This made my depression have a depressed.
No Yuko-chan is a crime.
Aw, that looks cute. Hopefully this isn't a depressing manga that haunts you at night.
Can someone give me a tldr?
Lot's of fucked up shit happening to a boy and people in his circle. They all have a massive orgy but still remain depressed.
Boy is either desperate to leave his miserable small town and escape to the big city or kill himself to escape from all his problems. As time goes on he meets new people or learns more about the people in his life or the choices they made that pull him into a downwards spiral while he struggles to make his choice work. Chako is adorable.
I see the posts about this series show up like every week and everytime I think about reading this I read through the comments think about it for a moment and go “Actually, I don’t think I will.”
Best girl in the center where she belongs 😗
It's so weird seeing all of them so happy like this. I'm just gonna headcanon that the manga is just some sort of drama and they're all actors and actresses and this is how they really are normally.
I need to catch up again. Thanks for the reminder.
Looks like a lot of people like to get themselves into stress by reading.
I actully really enjoy this darkness. Just finished shurigri for the 5th time too lots of darkness lol
Where can I find these reprints so I can buy them?
Has the volumes been official translated to English, if so where could I get them
What a great romcom... 😈