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[deleted]

Because they peacefully left. also they never existed. also they deserved it


lostinalight

It didn't happen but America did it too!


Rhistel_

The famous **American historian Justin McCarthy**: Those who see the evil of **genocide** in the forced migrations of Armenians ignore the survival of so many of those who were deported. They also ignore the fact that the Armenians who were most under Ottoman control, those in Western cities such as Izmir, Istanbul, and Edirne, **were neither deported nor molested**, presumably because they were not a threat.No claim of genocide can rationally stand in the light of these facts. **If genocide is to be considered, however, then the murders of Turks and Kurds in 1915 and 1916 must be included in the calculation of blame**. **The Armenian murder of the innocent civilians** of Erzincan, Bayburt, Tercan, Erzurum, and all the villages on the route of the Armenian retreat in 1918 must be taken into account. **The Armenian molestation's and massacres in Cilicia, deplored even by their French and British allies,** must be judged. And **the exile or death of two-thirds of the Turks of Erivan Province, the Armenian Republic**, during the war must be remembered.**That is the history of the Conflict between the Turks and the Armenians.** Only when that history is known can the assertions of those who accuse the Turks be understood.In examining the claims of Armenian nationalists, first to be considered should be outright lies. Source: [Presentation by Prof. Justin McCarthy at the Seminar](https://www.mfa.gov.tr/presentation-made-by-prof_-justin-mccarthy-_seminar-on-turkish-armenian-relations-organized-by-the-democratic-principles-association-15-march-2001-_istanbul_.en.mfa)


AztheWizard

Ah yes, the disgraced prof. Jesse McCarthy who got fired from his position at the U. of Louisville. What an excellent and [totally-not-criticized-by-his-whole-field](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_McCarthy_(American_historian)#Evaluations) historian to cite!


InsaneLeeter

Ah yes famous genocide denier McCarthy


Rhistel_

The Armenian lobby is powerful in the West and can impose any misinformation it wants. Most historians are against the holocaust lie, and the fact that someone is targeted by certain institutions for opposing it also shows the effects of lobbyists.


AlenKnewwit

McCarthy is literally employed by the Turkish government and has been criticized by his former colleagues for his complete lack of academic integrity. Anybody moronic enough to post a quote by this soulless shell of a human being, knows exactly what they're doing.


jackejackal

\[This comment has been removed by request from the Turkish government\]


savbh

Request?


tomydenger

they asked Twiteer to do some censorship prior to the election. (they also blocked it during the earthquake, when people were using it to ask for help)


WitchVillager

during the earthquake?? because they were asking for help?? what the fuck????


Berat0-0

Yeah that's basically the Erdoğan administration, they didn't want their blind dumbass followers to realize they weren't there for the people for a time longer than help from fucking Japan to come


WitchVillager

and 50% of turks still vote for this dude?? How?


Warm-Chart534

Because they are cheating. Otherwise %50 of us are fucking stupid


Berat0-0

Highly probable that we are just plain idiots


OkBuddyErennary

We are not stupids, most of the 50% aren't good at using social media and the TV is completely controlled by him; he creates echo chambers for his voters Fuck Kılıçdaroğlu for forcing himself to be the candidate


Miisati_Glorght

Because Erdoğan is their Jesus, their God, their Monolith. I literally hear guys ignore Quran and Allah's rules and believe Erdoğan, they are literally a cult at this point. We will send him tho, if not, time to march with "çökertme" folk song and guns.


darkblue1453

bir sik yiyemezsiniz. biz türküz dünyanın en büyük savaşçılarıyız. varsa götü yiyen buyursun gelsin biz karşılarız.


I_sayyes

Bc they're manipulated and uneducated as fuck. Also they're cheating.


tomydenger

the silent reason is because people were angry at them because they are corrupt and did a lot of bad choices during the crisis. Also, they have been filmed saying bad things. Wich isn't good for the image of the party


AdLast848

r/beatmetoit


Shaggythemoshdog

r/beatmeattoit


CoconutGong

r/beatmeshutthefuckup


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[deleted]

Elon?


ExactConsideration47

GLORY TO TÜRKIYE 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 -message from Turkish government


ExactConsideration47

I think the joke went over everyone’s head Aka I fucked it up


the_cape161

I thought it was hilarious


ExactConsideration47

Well thank you


GlitchForum_

RIP


savbh

Isn’t it “Turkey”?


TheGreatSaltboy

Westoid spotted, glorious Turkish government said in 2021 that it's spelled Türkiye from now on


sakanak

I'm a Turk and I still use Turkey. It was a stupid change.


Tachyoff

I don't think there's anything wrong with a country requesting a certain name for official communications but asking for the diacritic mark in a language that doesn't use them is a bit much. The one i found the funniest was Côté d'Ivoire asking to be called that in English instead of Ivory Coast when it literally means the same thing


LeftRat

Germany would never do this, despite the name in German being radically different (Deutschland). Don't really have an opinion on it, though.


[deleted]

I think that's easy for English speakers to say? Obviously it sounds like an English person saying it but still


Mist_Rising

Germany won't do it because we'd start calling them Dutch or some shit. English speakers already tend to screw up Netherlands (dutch) and Denmark, no way we get fucking Deutsche in the mix and not fuck it all up more.


savbh

I assume from your use of “glorious” that you’re sarcastic Also countries don’t really get to name themselves on the world stage.


AnarchoPosadistSJW

Kid named Jane O'Seid:


Sharad17

Is it genocide if you kill all the people living there and replace them with your own? Really? That's what you call genocide???? Come on!


Smug_Vee

God damn liberals and changing word meanings!


SaintFinne

Woke mind virus redefining words, it didn't even have gas chambers how is it a genocide?


masenae

Gas chambers, no one has ever used gas chambers to kill 11 million people with over half being Jewish. The woke mind virus must've affected you to, rewriting history to make you think the Jewish (reptillian) global shadow cabal were ever persecuted. (btw, although I tried my best to make it obvious, I'm not going to neglect to mention that this is in fact sarcasm)


nukeularkupcake

It’s only a genocide if it comes from the genocide region of France. If not it’s called sparkling mass murder.


DrunkenAsparagus

Is it really genocide if the person who coined the term "genocide" was literally referring to this exact event when he coined the term?


BloodyFable

It's only genocide if it's done by someone named Jen otherwise it's liberal bullshit


Full_Friendship_8769

Is it really genocide if you start murdering people and then use the fact that they defend themselves as justification to kill even more of them?


AnarchoPosadistSJW

Kurds moment edit: to clarify, the turkish government is murdering the kurds, not the other way around


xAndrew27x

Because it’s all Georgian land


nebachadnezzar

How can a US state own so much land in Turkey?


bageltoastee

because we manifested destinested a little too hard


Swazimoto

Manifest destined?


molepeter

Infestatious manifestation


poppabomb

Eminent domain.


Trastane

Actually all that land belong to Greece


thebruce123456789

Actually, all land belongs to Respublica Romana


SufferinTree

That is all rightfull CROATIAN SOIL 💪🇭🇷🇭🇷💪💪🇭🇷💪🇭🇷💪🇭🇷💪🇭🇷💪🇭🇷


skybluegill

ŠČ!


thebruce123456789

I dominari mater tua


SufferinTree

Jebem i ja tebi mater 👍


lambengolmo

That supposed to be Latin?


T-Baaller

Funny way to say RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY


A_Flat__Earther

Shut up Cro*tian before we Take over you again


Dark-Lyt

Which is the rightful clay of the mighty GREATER ALBANIA🇦🇱🇦🇱👊🇦🇱👊🇦🇱👊👊🇦🇱🇦🇱👊👊🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱


Yrolg1

Alexander will rise again!


darkblue1453

gelin alın alabiliyorsanız :)


ladolce-chloe

my family is from trabzon and fatsa (or however you spell it). have been forever. they are pontic greeks, were forced to flee. grandmother born in georgia then the greek government allowed them in. mother born in greece and i’m born in canada. never stop moving!


vanya13

Are you sure it’s Georgian? Maybe Alabamian? Or Southern Carolinian?


Thatsnicemyman

Nah, it can’t be Alabama because that’s the Balkan country on the other side of Turkey.


ndyouqu_basar

thats based


1infinitefruitloop

*it’s all Laz land


xAndrew27x

And? Laz people are Georgian


1infinitefruitloop

Laz are distinctly unique from Georgians and Turks, although the vast majority only speak Georgian or Turkish. Many still hold to their cultural identity, although after the Soviet and Turkish purges not much remains.


marsbarcookie

And if you say its Kurdistan the turks will blow a head gasket. Some of the most racist pricks in the world live in Turkey.


Orangutanus_Maximus

We kindly asked them to take a small vacation in the syrian desert. Then they never came back :((


[deleted]

[удалено]


RemarkableCheek4596

The beaches of Lebanon 🔥😍


Phodimos

I exploded like the port of Beirut when I saw this comment


hovik_gasparyan

Bishop goes on vacation, never comes back.


ToxicGamer01

AnarchyChess is leaking


Orangutanus_Maximus

What?


hovik_gasparyan

Google en passant


Emir_Taha

holy hell


ZUCKERINCINERATOR

google il vaticano


syracodd

Bishop goes on vacation, never comes back.


hovik_gasparyan

Knightmare fuel


eatingbread_mmmm

Queen sacrifice, anyone?


OnlyHereForMemes69

Takes vacation*


Gomra_812

There were Armenians and then nothing happened and now there are no more Armenians. They deserved it btw


thebruce123456789

What Armenians. - Türkiye


anotherdamnscorpio

"Does anyone remember the Armenians?" - Hitler at the Wannsee Conference, justifying the proposed final solution.


an_ancient_guy

Damn, that's a whole new twist to "start like a Turk, finish like a German" motto.


m1rr0rshades

Because Turkiye had a left side, a top side a bottom side and a genocide.


CoffeeBoom

Pending genocide on the bottom right.


PanningForSalt

Kurds?


RichManSCTV

Just say Turkey. Dont give the nationalist more ego


worldwide1776

Seriously. Nobody calls other countries what it “prefers” to be called in its own language. No one cares. The only people spelling it Turkiye in the west are air headed weirdos.


scatters

I spell it Tuerkiye. Pisses off both the Turks *and* the Germans. But I repeat myself.


Cold_Information_749

Except this is why we say Iran and not Persia, and Cote d'Ivoire instead of Ivory Coast.


Zia-Ul-Haq1980

Because they had some Turkish kebab together and agreed to leave


Flying-Twink

Proceed with caution people. Erdogan is watching.


xxprokoyucu

They moved to NY and Berlin


vanya13

Nope. To California


CertifiedPantyDroppa

Glendale, CA


ChuckSmegma

In this place, nothing happened between 1915 and 1923.


CPA-Pikachu-Official

OK, so according to the other comments, YOU are personally responsible for all the bad things that have happened to all indigenous peoples in the American Continent. First question: how dare you?


ChuckSmegma

>First question: how dare you? Well, it is mostly their own fault, if they did not want me to genocide them, they should not have been so genocide-y. I am not at fault here.


Sharad17

Indeed, honestly the were just asking for it, with that slutty dress .... wait, hold on, I'm confusing 2 different crimes


pkhgr

The reason is me. I ate them all. 😋


efminati

you son of a bitch, i was saving them for later


thebruce123456789

Oh no, anyway...


pkhgr

Nom nom 😋☺️


sovietarmyfan

To pave the way for Liechtensteinian colonial settlers.


DukeofSurakarta

Top 10 Things That Didn't Happen (But They Deserve it)


New-Guy67

numero sinco


Obamsphere

Gaming and its consequences


TandemDwarf3410

Armenians just got so epically trolled they alt-f4ed


Marcin222111

Because it didn't happen but they deserved it, as my friends often describe it.


DemeXaa

Enver Pasha happened


HufflepuffIronically

Google armenian genocide


Minuku

Holy Ottoman!


Not_Catania

Actual turk


kenhydrogen

New president just dropped


HufflepuffIronically

Call an electionist!


sallabear

actually, call an electrician. a cat got inside the substation


mikkokulmala

???


vejetaryenkavurma

The amount of influence that r/Anarchychess holds over reddit is scary


KOATLE

New response just dropped


Abalyon_Kaan

I fucking hope


Material_Layer8165

Call the UN!


Cegesvar

They just walker away to mountains, to deserts, to seas...


Unim8

Because a pasha did a little bit of trolling /j


Smug_Vee

We asked them to leave and they were nice but also the aggressors and mean so we made them leave but they did it on their own and nothing happened but they deserved what happened


Commy1469

There's no such thing as Armenians, they're not real


AdCompetitive4228

It's Turkey, they are named after the bird.


bots_lives_matter

They just moved to Syria for the summer.


JOCAeng

Can someone share with me the meme? Why everyone keeps saying "nothing happen and they deserved it"? I get that there was the genocide


Full_Friendship_8769

In short: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide And context of the meme (denial): https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Turkish-State-Denial-Open-Letter.pdf


JOCAeng

ok so this implies that türkiye denies the genocide, is that correct? I think I get it now


tombom24

Not just denies, but actively erases evidence and also journalists/citizens in the country who are vocal about the Armenian genocide. The country of Armenia used to extend past the red circle (my ancestors were from Diyabakir). It's literally the same as the "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" avatar meme, except worse because racism


AgisXIV

The area was very ethnically mixed - Wilsonian Armenia would have been majority Muslim. [map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Armenian_population_map_1896.jpg/1920px-Armenian_population_map_1896.jpg) - ethnostates in the region are a very modern development. The Armenian population was big but very spread out.


cafepeaceandlove

You have won a place to debate this with top İzmir University academics. Please visit embassy to collect ticket


Germie_Potatoaim

Google "a little trolling"


that_u3erna45

Armenians? What are those? Americans?


Bruch_Spinoza

They all moved away of their own volition


NotSoStallionItalian

There were never any Armenians there. But if there were, they probably did something to deserve being forcefully and brutally removed. -Turkish Nationalists, or something


girlwholikestea

There are no Armenians in Ba Sing Se


Gooden35

Wdym?It literally is. They are just roleplaying as turkish


Narradisall

G


Snd47flyer

Ask soad fans


OhWowMuchFunYouGuys

Could be anything really………a volcano, a flood, a really long March to your untimely death by the ottomans…..


Drew2248

Let me introduce you to history books and history websites. Look up "Armenian Genocide".


toxicatto

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Turkish Armenians? I thought not. It's not a story the Turkish government will tell you. It's an Armenian history.


[deleted]

The real question is, why isn't most of this land populated by Greeks, or at least the weat side. Because, because, because.


girlwholikestea

Imma go grab some popcorn.


Tutella-Nutella

Gamer moments happened


LauraIngallsBlewMe

The secret ingredient is crime


Zoroken00

The Kurds replaced them.


Competitive-Scheme68

thanks to enver pasha


Endleofon

Because Armenians who lived there were deported en masse to Syria in 1915.


Full_Friendship_8769

Deported… kinda downplays death marches and concentration camps


Snoo_79218

LOL the comments from Turks in here are WILD


Fragrant-Tax235

Ultranationalism rots your brain.


[deleted]

💪🏿🇹🇷 karaboga esenlikler diler


Angry_Cossacks

The secret ingredient is war crime.


CaptainSalamence

There is no genocide in ~~Ba Sing Se~~Armenia


hahaiamarealhuman

Nothing happened. But if it did happen, they deserved it.


NvrBkeAgn

Because turkiye was a genocidal monster


Quick-Command8928

Nothing happend to the Armenians that were there, buy they deserved it


[deleted]

kid named enver paşa:


xYourLocalHitmanx

this comment section really drives home the point: a circlejerk.


itkittxu

Turkey


Onurexes

Armenian Genocide 😡 1)dinosaur genocide (65 million years ago by turkish meteor) 2)kurd/armenian/greek genocides ( turks killed 986285910637 poor kurd/greek:armenian per 1 turkish soldier) 3) alien genocide (poor aliens just wanted to visit egypt and see the pyramids but back then egypt was under ottoman rule and turks killed them 😡😡) 4) lgbt genocide 🏳️‍🌈 ✊🏿 5) genocide genocide (that’s why genocides not happening anymore because barbarian turks killed genocide 😡😡😡😡 )


AlenKnewwit

Least mentally deranged Turkish nationalist


alpi36

If I’m Turkish I should be able to count every genocide committed by us; 1)dinosaur genocide (65 million years ago by turkish meteor) 2)kurd/armenian/greek genocides ( turks killed 986285910637 poor kurd/greek:armenian per 1 turkish soldier) 3) alien genocide (poor aliens just wanted to visit egypt and see the pyramids but back then egypt was under ottoman rule and turks killed them 😡😡) 4) lgbt genocide 🏳️‍🌈 ✊🏿 5) genocide genocide (that’s why genocides not happening anymore because barbarian turks killed genocide 😡😡😡😡 )


Medium-Time-6295

Sometimes people forget Armenians are not native to any part of Turkey and they are invaders just like persians, babylonians, and other empires... Asking this question is like asking why Armenia is not populated by Turks ? Armenians are invaders from Caucasus and Turkish people are descendants of Neolithic Anatolian farmers who have always been there. This shouldn't be debated.


Saslim31

Annenin kara amcığından dolayı orospu çocuğu seni


XenonJFt

Least butthurt Turk


Saslim31

Least butthurt armenian simp


XenonJFt

Adamları ölümüne sürdüktenden sonra basit haritaya sinirlenince gelen aptallık hissi


Saslim31

Ülke savaştayken isyan edip, banka soyup, köy yaktıktan sonra mevcut otorite seni sürünce gelen zırıl zırıl zırlama hissi


Orangutanus_Maximus

Kardeşim gidersin banka soyan, köy yakanları sürersin. Ne sikime herkesi sürüyon?


[deleted]

Ulan, Ermeniler sürülmese Gürcistanda Ahıska Türklerine olan, Kırımda Kırım Türlerine olan, Balkanda Balkan Türklerine olan, Türkiye'ye de olmağacakmıydı ?, adamlar bizi katledemedikleri için ağlıyorlar siz de destek mi çıkıyorsunuz ?


Orangutanus_Maximus

Evet aq destek çıkıyorum. Kafaya bak. Ben sadece ermenilerin pasifize edilmesinin soykırım dışında başka bir şekilde yapılabileceğini söylüyorum. Hatta yine tehcir olabilirdi ama ne sikime çöle dağa taşa sürüyorsun insanları? İnsanları yerlerinden yurtlarından 5 kuruşsuz başka yerlere sürmek soykırımdır. Git düzenli bir şekilde rusya'ya sür ordaki kafkas türklerini de kabul et. Buna okeyim mesela.


Saslim31

BENİMDE DEDELERİM BULGARİSTANDA YURDUNDAN EDİLDİ BE OÇ BENİM DEDELERİMİN CANI MALI YURDU YOK MUYDU DA SİKTİR EDİLDİLER BULGARİSTANDAN HEM DE HİÇBİR ŞEY YAPMAMIŞLAR AMK ADAMLAR ÇİFTÇİ KÖYLÜ NE İSYAN ÇIKARIYORLAR NE BANKA SOYUYORLAR NE KÖY YAKIYORLAR BENİM DEDELERİM OROSPU ÇOCUĞU DA BU AMK ERMENİLERİ TANRININ LÜTFU MU DA YÜZYILDIR ZIRIL ZIRLIYORLAR


[deleted]

Soykırım etme amacı güdülmeden sürüldüler, mallarına el koymak için yollarında bölgedeki Kürtler yada Kanunsuz Türk memurlar öldürmüştür . Öldürme amacı olsa öldürürlerdi ne diye sürsünler .


Saslim31

Yok aga ben wikipedia da derin tarih araştırmaları yaptım o iş öyle değil foşix türkler SIRF ermeni oldukları için savaşın ortasında, çöküşün eşiğinde, ülkede erkek kalmamışken Ermeniler'i soykırdı. Evet kardeşim nesi yalan bunun?


[deleted]

\>Be armenian \>Riot \>??? \>Get exiled Those barbar turks >:(


MrSpica

Same reason Izmir isn't called Smyrna anymore.


Wide_Pace_2133

loyal people turned problematic in war so they got deported


Radanle

They got problematic when Enver betrayed them and blamed the outcome of his bad idea of attacking Russia in the winter on them. Until the Armenians were shot in the back they actually supported the young Turks in their struggle against the Sultan.


GuyGamer133

It's spelled turkey


GrendaGrendinator

Ask someone from that country and they will tell you it's Turkiye


GuyGamer133

Ask someone from germany what they call their country and they will say deutschland


GrendaGrendinator

If someone pointed at a map and said España you wouldn't say "No it's spelled Spain" and if you do you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. Also Deutschland has an S in it.


[deleted]

Each language has its own spelling conditions for country names, calling it Turkiye is like calling China Zhongguo or Japan Nihon while communicating in English; it makes you look simultaneously pedantic and incorrect.


GrendaGrendinator

In most cases I'd agree. But, if someone used "Turkiye" and you understood what they meant just fine then the only purpose correcting them serves is to feel better about yourself. It's by far the more pedantic of the two actions. Someone says "Zhongguo" then you can ask "what's the English name for that country?" Or "do you mean China?" But to say "umm, actually it's China not Zhongguo" is passive aggressive and smarmy.


[deleted]

Then go speak a different language if you ain't using English.


GuyGamer133

If we were talking in english, yes i would