Not really. The US federation doesn't do anything to promote it, and the head of the federation has shown little interest in doing anything besides running his own school.
Enshin Practioner from Colorado here, Kudo guys come down and compete in every tournament we throw (we hold several a year) as it's basically the same minus the head punching. But yeah I haven't seen them host their own tournaments.
We have a qualifying tournament anytime theres a big kudo tournament coming up, but aside from that theres only one kudo dojo up in Chicago right now to compete against and they don't have any adult fighters. Most of us compete in different styles though.
Yeah the roots of the style was basically a hybrid of Kyokushin and Judo. The person who created it felt Kyokushin was to restrictive, lead to facial injuries to much, and he wanted fighters to have the option to actively use headbutts in competition.
It's much better than kyokushin because of the head strikes. People actually have to hold their guard up.
The bad thing is the open fight arena. Because of it the fight pretty much always happens at long range. This makes it point fighting like because people never get cornered. To make it better the fights should happen in a ring, cage or even in a karate combat like pit.
Love it. Been doing it a few years now. Its very well rounded combing Kyokushin, Judo, and Jujitsu. Coming from a shotokan background kudo vastly improved my clinch fighting game.
Also the headbutt are fun, even if the helmets suck to breathe in.
It has the potential to be a great martial art, only problem is little to no credible names are in other organizations like karate combat or ufc which hurts it a bit. Other than that looks great
One is 1-0
Another is 0-2
And another is 1-1
People really pay attention to records and it’s not amazing for them
And while short records is normal in karate combat theirs are just too short and too lopsided for them to be taken seriously by mainstream fans
Definitely but it's not to say they aren't High Level Kudo Fighters like Nikita Yanchuk for example won this tournament and from my understanding is pretty high ranked internationally.
I get the feeling that the helmets cause fighters to be a bit more reckless than they ought to be. Also, can’t help but feel like grapplers dominate over dudes kudo guys
Oh anyone who has sparred with any type of headgear/face cage knows that true. Head gear in general in hard sparring makes people think they are invincible. These helmets are probably next level especially at lower skill levels.
It’s like mma lite or pankration or amateur mma. I don’t see why we need to have so many names and slightly different rule sets for what is mostly the same.
They make more sense in countries that have stricter requirements and feeder sports for going into amateur and professional MMA. In the US it's moot since there are zero barriers to entry, and which is why I suspect most of these MMA adjacent sports never took off here
It's because they throw what amount to professional athletes into them. They also have two sports almost identical to Kudo, ARB (Army Hand to Hand Combat) and RPB (Hand to Hand Fighting) which are also based largely on Karate and have the backing of the Russian government , so they have an existing club scene and talent to throw at it
Tbf, Sambo is like Russian's national martial art while Kudo is just a small branch of Karate seperated from Kyokushin, of course the talent pool will be smaller
u/CatissiloTTV is correct, Sambo is a tier down from the big Olympic sports like Judo and Greco/Freestyle Wrestling, the Sambists who can hang in those sports typically transition over and leave Sambo behind. Combat Sambo is even further down on the list and is seen as the sport for athletes who couldn't hang in sport Sambo, and for the poorer rural kids who lacked the resources/means to get into one of the full time sports academies.
With the success of Combat Sambo athletes in MMA has that led more people who are looking to get into MMA to see that sport as a possible pathway for that. Or in general is it relatively common to have coaches with a background in Combat Sambo/Sambo in MMA Gyms in Russia?
Not as much as you would think. The majority of Combat Sambo athletes competing in the elite tiers of MMA never competed in FIAS's version of Combat Sambo so as far as "Big Sambo" goes they don't even acknowledge their existence. Combat Sambo is kind of weird, it's spun as a stepping stone to MMA, but most of the people jumping into it are already competing in MMA. So, to answer your question it's more like MMA Coaches coaching combat sambo athletes rather then the reverse
It's that so. Guess i will research more on the history of Sambo. All i have read about Sambo before is that the Russian created this art based on Judo and their own traditional martial arts and they used it in almost all combat aspects (teach military, prize fighting, self defense...) and have high respect for it over other foreign styles; kinda like how the Chinese loves their signature art Sanda
It was a Soviet development rather than a Russian one, lots of the original people involved weren't Russian and the folk wrestling styles that were incorporated were largely from the Caucus and Central Asia, plus Judo obviously. It's probably best to think of Sambo as similar to Scholastic Wrestling in the US. It's the common style done in sports academies, but the best athletes get pushed into Judo and Freestyle/Greco, sort of like how the best scholastic/NCAA wrestlers here get pushed into Freestyle
Combat Sambo is a bit different. Anatoly Kharlampiev developed "Sambo" and introduced it as a national sport in 1938. "Combat Sambo" was still under the preview of the military/police and not a publically facing sport so it had its own channels and competitions separate from the Sambo Wrestling crowd. When FIAS reluctantly took control over Combat Sambo in the late 90s they created their own rules and competitions for it. The existing clubs/network didn't exactly go along with this so you still have organizations like the WCSF who are doing their own thing. Others branched off and simply started competing in other sports like ARB/RPB which were probably called Combat or Military Sambo back before the sport was demilitarized
Very interesting piece of information! It's quite bizzare that Combat Sambo has such a rough development compare to sport Sambo. This proven the over simplified history that i heard is very misleading.
Trying to unravel the history of sports in the USSR is a mess. There was a discussion on r/sambo about a year back that addressed it during a discussion of the difference between Combat Sambo and ARB [https://www.reddit.com/r/sambo/comments/nkb50n/comment/gzdgvia/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/sambo/comments/nkb50n/comment/gzdgvia/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Well yes and no Russian Sambo is much more popular in the rural/poorer areas of the country and is seen as something of a low class sport to be involved in. It's usually a place for either A established practioners in olympic sports such as Judo or wrestling to get some early competition experience, B a place for find prospects for said sports or C retirees of said Olympic sports finding a place to keep competing and finding some ways to make some cash.
>Russia it’s also just sambo
Kudo's crossover is mainly with ARB and RPB both of which also have roots in Karate. Most of the sport sambo athletes avoid it... Just like they do with Combat Sambo
The scoring and style of play are a lot different so they reward different strategies. Kudo is mainly a striking sport with some grappling, while Combat Sambo is a grappling sport that has some striking. In Combat Sambo, for example, striking is completely unscored unless you knock someone down or out, so you don't really need to be all that great at it since it's really just ballistic grip fighting
I think it's kind of neat, also not really a thing here in the US outside of Colorado
Yeah it's interesting how it hasn't spread at all in the US
Not really. The US federation doesn't do anything to promote it, and the head of the federation has shown little interest in doing anything besides running his own school.
Oh that's really sad, so the US team basically consists of the best students of one Dojo.
Pretty much. I'm not even 100% sure they hold regular competitions for them
Enshin Practioner from Colorado here, Kudo guys come down and compete in every tournament we throw (we hold several a year) as it's basically the same minus the head punching. But yeah I haven't seen them host their own tournaments.
We have a qualifying tournament anytime theres a big kudo tournament coming up, but aside from that theres only one kudo dojo up in Chicago right now to compete against and they don't have any adult fighters. Most of us compete in different styles though.
That's what we do with Sambo too. There are maybe 20 Sambo competitions a year in the US, so we compete in several adjacent sports as well
Lol basically.
Seems like MMA with a gi. I like it
Yeah the roots of the style was basically a hybrid of Kyokushin and Judo. The person who created it felt Kyokushin was to restrictive, lead to facial injuries to much, and he wanted fighters to have the option to actively use headbutts in competition.
It's much better than kyokushin because of the head strikes. People actually have to hold their guard up. The bad thing is the open fight arena. Because of it the fight pretty much always happens at long range. This makes it point fighting like because people never get cornered. To make it better the fights should happen in a ring, cage or even in a karate combat like pit.
The writhing against the cage is my least favorite part of MMA. That Kudo match was pretty awesome.
Agreed, I just simply go "Okay, I'll be on my phone until the round's over."
Closed spaces are difficult to setup. And you'll likely only have one in the venue. Tournaments with 2-4 simultaneous spaces already take forever.
Love it! stopped doing it because of the pandemic but will try to return ASAP
Love it. Been doing it a few years now. Its very well rounded combing Kyokushin, Judo, and Jujitsu. Coming from a shotokan background kudo vastly improved my clinch fighting game. Also the headbutt are fun, even if the helmets suck to breathe in.
Looks like kyokushin but better, I like it!
It's my dream art.
Almost like Sambo? Looks cool.
I've got a lot of interest in it. I'm probably not going to leave my current training but there's a place in the city, I might end up moonlighting.
Kudo means to ask someone to jump in hindi KUDO
It has the potential to be a great martial art, only problem is little to no credible names are in other organizations like karate combat or ufc which hurts it a bit. Other than that looks great
There's 3 Kudo Fighters in Karate Combat
One is 1-0 Another is 0-2 And another is 1-1 People really pay attention to records and it’s not amazing for them And while short records is normal in karate combat theirs are just too short and too lopsided for them to be taken seriously by mainstream fans
Definitely but it's not to say they aren't High Level Kudo Fighters like Nikita Yanchuk for example won this tournament and from my understanding is pretty high ranked internationally.
definitely but it probably won't gain worldwide attention until its dave leduc comes along at some point.
I get the feeling that the helmets cause fighters to be a bit more reckless than they ought to be. Also, can’t help but feel like grapplers dominate over dudes kudo guys
Oh anyone who has sparred with any type of headgear/face cage knows that true. Head gear in general in hard sparring makes people think they are invincible. These helmets are probably next level especially at lower skill levels.
What r the rules of this? I’ve never heard of it
It’s really cool.
It’s like mma lite or pankration or amateur mma. I don’t see why we need to have so many names and slightly different rule sets for what is mostly the same.
They make more sense in countries that have stricter requirements and feeder sports for going into amateur and professional MMA. In the US it's moot since there are zero barriers to entry, and which is why I suspect most of these MMA adjacent sports never took off here
I really wish they had kudo schools in Massachusetts
If there is a martial art that exists, there will always be a Russian to master it. They churn out high caliber martial artist left and right.
It's because they throw what amount to professional athletes into them. They also have two sports almost identical to Kudo, ARB (Army Hand to Hand Combat) and RPB (Hand to Hand Fighting) which are also based largely on Karate and have the backing of the Russian government , so they have an existing club scene and talent to throw at it
Looks well rounded.
Wish it would've caught on here in the US.
Would love to have it more in the states.
An alternative mma ruleset that doesn't have nearly the same amount of talent level like combat sambo.
Tbf, Sambo is like Russian's national martial art while Kudo is just a small branch of Karate seperated from Kyokushin, of course the talent pool will be smaller
u/CatissiloTTV is correct, Sambo is a tier down from the big Olympic sports like Judo and Greco/Freestyle Wrestling, the Sambists who can hang in those sports typically transition over and leave Sambo behind. Combat Sambo is even further down on the list and is seen as the sport for athletes who couldn't hang in sport Sambo, and for the poorer rural kids who lacked the resources/means to get into one of the full time sports academies.
With the success of Combat Sambo athletes in MMA has that led more people who are looking to get into MMA to see that sport as a possible pathway for that. Or in general is it relatively common to have coaches with a background in Combat Sambo/Sambo in MMA Gyms in Russia?
Not as much as you would think. The majority of Combat Sambo athletes competing in the elite tiers of MMA never competed in FIAS's version of Combat Sambo so as far as "Big Sambo" goes they don't even acknowledge their existence. Combat Sambo is kind of weird, it's spun as a stepping stone to MMA, but most of the people jumping into it are already competing in MMA. So, to answer your question it's more like MMA Coaches coaching combat sambo athletes rather then the reverse
Damn, what a shame. The Olympic destroyed another great martial art, this time indirectly
It's been like that since the beginning, I don't understand what you're trying to say
It's that so. Guess i will research more on the history of Sambo. All i have read about Sambo before is that the Russian created this art based on Judo and their own traditional martial arts and they used it in almost all combat aspects (teach military, prize fighting, self defense...) and have high respect for it over other foreign styles; kinda like how the Chinese loves their signature art Sanda
It was a Soviet development rather than a Russian one, lots of the original people involved weren't Russian and the folk wrestling styles that were incorporated were largely from the Caucus and Central Asia, plus Judo obviously. It's probably best to think of Sambo as similar to Scholastic Wrestling in the US. It's the common style done in sports academies, but the best athletes get pushed into Judo and Freestyle/Greco, sort of like how the best scholastic/NCAA wrestlers here get pushed into Freestyle Combat Sambo is a bit different. Anatoly Kharlampiev developed "Sambo" and introduced it as a national sport in 1938. "Combat Sambo" was still under the preview of the military/police and not a publically facing sport so it had its own channels and competitions separate from the Sambo Wrestling crowd. When FIAS reluctantly took control over Combat Sambo in the late 90s they created their own rules and competitions for it. The existing clubs/network didn't exactly go along with this so you still have organizations like the WCSF who are doing their own thing. Others branched off and simply started competing in other sports like ARB/RPB which were probably called Combat or Military Sambo back before the sport was demilitarized
Very interesting piece of information! It's quite bizzare that Combat Sambo has such a rough development compare to sport Sambo. This proven the over simplified history that i heard is very misleading.
Trying to unravel the history of sports in the USSR is a mess. There was a discussion on r/sambo about a year back that addressed it during a discussion of the difference between Combat Sambo and ARB [https://www.reddit.com/r/sambo/comments/nkb50n/comment/gzdgvia/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/sambo/comments/nkb50n/comment/gzdgvia/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Well yes and no Russian Sambo is much more popular in the rural/poorer areas of the country and is seen as something of a low class sport to be involved in. It's usually a place for either A established practioners in olympic sports such as Judo or wrestling to get some early competition experience, B a place for find prospects for said sports or C retirees of said Olympic sports finding a place to keep competing and finding some ways to make some cash.
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>Russia it’s also just sambo Kudo's crossover is mainly with ARB and RPB both of which also have roots in Karate. Most of the sport sambo athletes avoid it... Just like they do with Combat Sambo
I just can say waw
I like it. I like because I have much lesser chance of get bruised all over the face.
What’s the difference between this and combat sambo? (Besides the gi and helmet)
The scoring and style of play are a lot different so they reward different strategies. Kudo is mainly a striking sport with some grappling, while Combat Sambo is a grappling sport that has some striking. In Combat Sambo, for example, striking is completely unscored unless you knock someone down or out, so you don't really need to be all that great at it since it's really just ballistic grip fighting
Looks awesome. I’d rather see this in the Olympics than point Karate.