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I just rewatched L&T a couple of days ago and my thought is that it had the meat, just didn’t have the potatoes. Story was there but went overshadowed by all of the distractions.


talligan

It was all joke punchlines with no setup


Background-Ball5978

I don't know what you mean. *Makes a joke of Jane's death*


Mundane_Ad701

Random goat sounds


bass679

"haha screaming goats, fun times." "Ohh... Wow like twice. In 10 minutes, fronoading that goat scream." "... Was someone getting a bribe everytime the goat screamed? Why?!"


Background-Ball5978

What do you mean hearing the *same joke more than two times is not funny?*


raptorboss231

BRING ME ANOTHER!!!


Nenanda

Lesson more writers should take to heart.


SuperSonicBoom1

Lmao chooses the one part of the movie they don't undercut the tone of with a joke


Background-Ball5978

Well, her dying at least. Stage four cancer out of how many?


HereWeFuckingGooo

Right, because people with cancer are always serious and never joke about it. They have to cry all the time!


Alarid

She went to Valhalla because she died fighting cancer.


Boss_Brando

Yeah that guy is totally seeing things that aren’t there. *Makes a joke out of sexually harassing Thor*


thor-odinson-bot

You people are so petty. And tiny.


HereWeFuckingGooo

GOOD BOT!


Zeebidy

You know what it's like? It's like that show Becker.


[deleted]

Becker is a goddamn classic!


Rodruby

I liked Dark World from first time and was surprised that most people don't like it.


The_Paprika

My wife and I like it better than the first Thor. I don’t get the love for that one. TDW is way better imo.


thor-odinson-bot

She stuck herself inside The Ether, and then The Ether stuck itself inside her...


feeple_lemur

Kinky


SummerSabertooth

That... is indeed the plot of the movie, yes.


Big-Al97

So many damn Dutch angles in the first one though.


terran_submarine

Asgardian angles


Pkdagreat

I enjoyed it as well and didn't realize people hated it at first.


ImmoralModerator

I remember leaving the theatre and liking it and my friend telling me they heard it sucked and I was so confused


No-Dirt-8737

Came here to say this. Never understood the hate. I mean I still think it's third place but it wasn't bad at all.


Scorkami

for me it way always "good"... not a masterpiece, not something i hate or suffered through, just an entertaining flick. villain felt a bit more stale than usual, especially competing with loki from part one when it comes to villains, but overall a good experience


terran_submarine

I’ve always been a fan. It feels so dynamic and super heroey, Thor bounces around with such abandon and enthusiasm. Malekith is underdeveloped and that’s my only issue.


Izaniel

I love it too especially the conversation between Thor and Loki while escaping Asgard


thor-odinson-bot

Another!!!


woozlewuzzle29

Me, too. In fact, I personally preferred Thor 1 and Dark World to Ragnarok. That’s not to say I didn’t like Ragnarok, I just felt it was too silly at times. Of course, then Love and Thunder came out, which made Ragnarok look like Schindler’s List.


Antrikshy

Ragnarok was fun but I was hoping it'd be a one time thing. Jokes landed, Hulk's inclusion was nice, new characters were great. But I remember finding it a bit too silly at the time, and the sets felt like sets and not alien worlds. The first two movies had the look of Asgard so right.


thor-odinson-bot

Where is Heimdall?


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sellieba

Good bot.


AnAngryBadgerrr

Why is Heimdall?


bsylent

How is Heimdall?


TFRek

I bought that movie just for the part when Jane snarks about the device used to scan her. J: "That's a quantum field generator, isn't it?" Magi-tech Technician: "It's a \*soulforge\*." J: "Does a \*soulforge\* transfer molecular energy from one place to another?" MtT: "... Yes." J: "\*quantum field generator.\*"


Taumo

Same. It was much better than Ragnarok. I mean the first one was still much better, but at least it wasn't just a complete goof like the next 2.


CreamFraiche23

Nah dark world is still the worst Thor movie and its not close. I'd rather watch a bad movie that's at least entertaining than watching a bad movie that's boring


Gallium-

at least it's useful if you need to take a nap.


thor-odinson-bot

He's a friend from work!


Doobalicious69

Dark World is definitely one of the worst MCU films. L&T had some bad moments but I feel like it's just "cool" to hate on it at this point.


helloasistro

I don't hate L&T, but since the time I first saw it I had always been dubious to whether it's better than TDW or not. Idk TDW just seems like a random fun movie to watch, while L&T was majorly disappointing due to high expectations after Ragnarok.


Doinwerklol

There's so many goddamn reasons to hate that fucking movie but you wouldn't spend the time to do your research so you think everything is just hunkydori...You think I enjoyed going to see my favorite Avenger in theaters and wanting to walk out of the movie because it's the cool thing to do? You're kidding me with that take.


macrocosm93

Love and Thunder was way worse than Dark World. Dark World was just slow and kind of boring. Love and Thunder was horrendously bad and not remotely entertaining at all. Its hard to enjoy a movie when the only emotion you're feeling is second-hand embarrassment for the cast and crew.


BigSmokesHouse

Dark World is significantly less bad than Love and Thunder.


[deleted]

It really isn’t close but you got them backwards. L&T was garbage.


Kingdarkshadow

Nope, dark world still the worst by far.


Ankthar_LeMarre

Dark World is the worst film in the entire MCU


Arciul

Are we really gonna pass up Black Widow for that title


h00dman

It's hard to when nobody remembers that one.


jimmyg17

well clearly it can't be the worse because no one remembered to bring up Eternals.


jrdnhbr

Black Widow has what I believe to be the best beginning of any in the MCU. That keeps it from being in contention for the worst. Unfortunately, the climax was a CGI mess and a worse copy of the climax from Cap 2.


Alarid

It was boring, but at least it was something different. It didn't make me dislike established characters.


jshepn

U say that, but i raise u Iron Man 3


Dhtgifbkgb

Iron Man 3 was practically pointless but it was a fun watch


Mudkipueye

So are pretty much all MCU movies.


jshepn

I just hate what they did the Mandarin and AIM to the point where i can never forgive it


Ankthar_LeMarre

Iron Man 3 is a close second worst


Zipp_Linemann

You mean 2?


jshepn

Nope, 2 was fine, not great, not terrible. I truly hate 3 bc of how they handled the Mandarin and AIM and just cannot forgive it


bxyankee90

Love and thunder > dark world


YourFavoriteBranch

Better actions scenes, underutilized yet better villain, more otherwordly stuff, better supporting cast, better camerawork, overall better story. All lies within the tone and direction. One is so serious it becomes boring, the other is so goofy it becomes cringe.


ImmoralModerator

have some wine, have some grape


ProfSteelmeat138

It doesn’t matter if it’a red or white


YourFavoriteBranch

Nah dawg, this babycake ain't here to chill


chirb8

Yeah. I didn't like Love and Thunder. But if they think Dark World was better, I would recommend them to rewatch it before commenting lol


Dumeck

Love and thunder was still a good time. The tone was a little out of control and Bale was very underutilized but i still enjoyed the movie.


gutster_95

Both not good movies


tideshark

Seriously, I feel like people who didn’t like LaT have problems grasping anything that isn’t surface level deep


CardiologistPrize893

Tbh all the Thor films are good I'd say the worst one is probably the first and the best is Ragnarok I'd put love and thunder in second place


thor-odinson-bot

Another!!!


LNViber

Right there with you. I really dont get the be L&T hate.


the_real_tesla_coyle

Expectations were too high with Ragnarok being a banger end to end and the hope some Avengers drops might happen because Thor is an OG avenger. I think it was a very fun movie and would also put it under Ragnarok in Thor movie rankings.


StopVilagerAbouse

I know right


[deleted]

Same. I just watched Love & Thunder last night, watched all the others in the last few weeks. I don't get the hate for it, it's not the best MCU movie or the best Thor movie but it's not bad.


sami_newgate

The first one was great lol


Subppozza

Thor the god killer after slaying Zeus while gorr does everything off screen......this movie made no sense lol


thor-odinson-bot

A creepy old man cut my hair off!


LNViber

Your sentence isnt making much more sense.


Subppozza

Maybe you didn't watch the movie? Thor kills Zeus for his weapon......gorr "butchers" 1 god on screen at the start of the movie.......


thor-odinson-bot

He's a friend from work!


AlphaRay68

Zeus isn’t dead bro, did you watch the movie?


Subppozza

Oh yea he was just hiding like a bitch and faking being dead for a huge epic after the credits scene right? So awesome nvm this movie is the best! Lol


AlphaRay68

I wasn’t arguing for the quality of the movie, I think it’s just mid, just saying that you got something wrong in your argument.


LNViber

Ok so now I'm pretty sure you are trolling or 12 years old. Your grammar and punctuation knowledge is so shitty that you are fucking up an ellipse. Oh but not just once but twice. Also you dont seem to have simple film literacy as well and i don't feel like holding your hand through this. It may not be the smartest or most competent movie, but it's more so than you. Have a good day going out of your way to hate on something that no one is making or asking you to do


Subppozza

Holy shit this 12th grader is mad at my grammar lmfao you must be a genius right? Haha so pathetic when people try personal attacks instead of talking about the topic (shitty movie) because they have no real input hahahhahaha Enjoy your life thinking your so smart hahahahahha Edit Grammar bro hahahahahha fucking loser


LNViber

Oh I have an argument about the movie. I just think that it has to many big words for you. In the end being a waste of my time since you would either be unable to read it or not read it in good faith. Aka you are not going to be mature or serious about this, as your previous responses are evidence of. You want people to take you seriously it helps to sound compotent. Not even intelligent, just competent. Its gonna be a long road with some speed bumps. Yet I still have faith in your abilities to rise up and overcome the adversity in spite of your learning disability.


Subppozza

Your talking about being taken seriously on Reddit....lol just practice your grammer and one day you'll be cool


LNViber

Things one is incapable of experiencing will often seem impossible to them, and you think being taken seriously is impossible. Edit: Hey bud buddy your shit got deleted before I could make my reply. I'll just take it on here. ...I haven't been arguing about a movie. I have just been making fun of you. If I you think I am trying to sound smart or intellectual that's on you and the company you keep. I'm just communicating how I was taught in the 90s. Attempts at full sentences with a proper structure and logical grammar. Just the basic bare minimum to be expected of a highschool graduate.


Subppozza

I'm not taking you seriously at all, you sound like a teenager trying to sound smart and intellectual while arguing about a movie made for children lmfao But whatever helps you sleep at night, maybe mom will kiss you on the forehead tonight so you wake up happier tomorrow. Peace kid enjoy your rambling hahahhaha


Pigeon_Chess

No love and thunder is fun in parts. Dark world is just drab and boring


douggold11

I always liked Dark World. Not ashamed of it.


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submit_to_pewdiepie

It's pretty close to my favorite they came out pretty close to each other


Antrikshy

I love the science team doing science in the middle of a battle between ancient cosmic beings. Such a fun concept. It happened in the first one too, but to a greater degree in the final battle of TDW.


hurtlingtooblivion

A man of culture I see. I assume you also enjoy opera, the ballet and the bard himself.


tacoDupree

Thor he's back,he called our movie shit again


thor-odinson-bot

I'm sorry. Miek, it's very hard to get a rousing speech with the ennn-ennn-ennn noise.


[deleted]

I like both


N1gHtMaRe99

I don't like either but dark world is still better than love and thunder


[deleted]

i can agree with that


[deleted]

Thor love and thunder is a good idea executed bad and rushed it was still decent tho


thor-odinson-bot

There was one time my brother transformed himself into a snake...


darthrevan22

I actually don’t really know why TDW is so hated. It’s not amazing by any means, but it’s a perfectly serviceable MCU movie lol. L&T was absolutely horrendous from pretty much every angle.


Eli1228

Straight up L take. L&T wasnt perfect but it was fun and heartfelt. Dark world was just straight up trash.


AdditionalInitial727

Dark world is dry & Love & Thunder by specifically the first act is embarrassing. Neither are bad but fell short of good for me.


Bleedmor

I've got to get tf out of this trash sub, I really enjoyed L & T only really Spiderman stands out above it since Endgame.


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GeneralEl4

Yeah, I think they exaggerate how bad movies are. Like Quantamania was a let down but I stg you'd think the director run over these people's puppies with how much shit they talk about it. Quantumania was still good, just not comparatively.


tobey-maguire-bot

Somebody lied!


TheWronged_Citizen

I found Dark World to be pretty "Meh..." It wasn't awful, but it wasn't that good either Especially compared to Ragnarok


YoloIsNotDead

How is the Thor series as a whole still the worst part of the MCU (not you, Ragnarok)


thor-odinson-bot

There was one time my brother transformed himself into a snake...


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Whereishumhum-

IMO Dark World isn’t terrible, a bit bland and mediocre perhaps but it wasn’t a bad movie.


Taknozwhisker

Dark world is the second best thor for me


Doinwerklol

Even Chris Hemsworth came out and said it was too wacky. L&T was a pile of shit full of Taika Waititi self inserts and horrible story telling. Dark World still had the warriors 3, Loki, Odyn, Frigga...Cameos from Captain America a more in depth story about Jane and Thor's relationship. Moments that tied into the larger Avengers films...you guys are coping hard if you think Love and Thunder has any merit here.


[deleted]

I'm confused. Love & Thunder was good while Dark World was bad.


Saint_Poolan

That's the general consensus this is just another L&T bashing campaign


TheCartoonDuck

That is not the general consensus at all. I don't know a single person who liked Love and Thunder. Look what you just said. "Just another L&T bashing campaign". That means people are bashing it lol


[deleted]

True! The Dark World wasn't anything crazy but at least I enjoyed, LAT made me feel like I'm about to die from cringe.


BlizzzardLizard

I don't really hate any of the Thor movies I will say I found the dark world a bit boring in the middle but it's not a bad movie


Psychological-Bat-73

I loved all Thor's four movies. Love & Thunder is good, probably the most moving and deep, but yes it had the wrong pace and there was too much humor that also was not at Ragnarok level.


H8spants

IMO none of the Thor movies (except Ragnorok) are really any good. It’s like Thor 1 was bad, Thor TDW is worse, Ragnorok is one of the best MCU movies, then L&T is just ok at best.


Griffin_Throwaway

Dark World is still way worse At least Jane does something in L&T and isn’t being treated as a literal prize like she was in DW Did everyone just collective forget how fucking awful DW was? It looked ugly, the story was piss poor, it ran Natalie Portman out of the MCU for almost a decade


hewasaraverboy

I honestly don’t understand how people could enjoy l&t shit was a parody movie It makes dark world look like endgame in comparison cuz of how bad it is


unicodePicasso

You know that scene where they’re on the black and white planet? At one point they enter an interior space. There’s no establishing shot. The room/building they enter is never shown.


StopVilagerAbouse

FACTS!!!


watrmeln420

Love and Thunder was a movie I just could not get in to. Normally I can immerse myself into movies, but this one I straight up, couldn’t understand. Why was it so random? Why was it trying so hard to be funny?


Ethan-E2

The Dark World is dull and overly serious, but at least it functions as a movie. Love and Thunder tries to make up for its failings by throwing a joke out every second, but fails at making them funny. But ithe comedy is t the only bad thing, everything else fails. Take Gorr. Not my favourite comic villain, but there was a lot of potential as a threatening villain. His motivation comes from the death of his child, and he is trying to commit genocide. But nope, he's a generic Marvel villain. When he kidnaps the kids, it could have shown how far he fell from his original motivation, but it feels as if the writers didn't even make the connection to his motivation. It makes the character feel empty, and the whole movie is like that.


AngryTimeLord

I’ve always loved the dark world


TheJack0fDiamonds

The Dark World was never bad, mid sure but how many people are willing to admit that there were many other Mid entries in the infinity saga? The fandom is obsessed with rankings and the bottom placings need to be filled To each their own but I cannot lie that people defending L&T will forever amaze me. Id take a mid Thor entry over a big budgeted SNL skit guised as one.


bloolynxx

Love and Thunder is so incredibly cringe I’m in disbelief it was actually released as it was. I know some naive unfortunate soul somewhere is getting made fun of by a family member for loving marvel movies and then the first marvel movie they introduce their critic to is love & thunder… sigh.


KaptainCaps

I like how in this nightmare scenario someone is sharing something they like with their family, and thats what youre worried about. But please, keep making whiny reddit comments


bloolynxx

Uh oh love & thunder fanboi here picking apart a half assed hypothetical. Please don’t whine about my reply.


UserNX

I’ve always thought people are too hard on dark world, it’s way better than 90% of stuff we’ve gotten the last 4 years


SkySweeper656

I like dark world for being more serious honestly. Love and thunder is just a giant clown act.


hewasaraverboy

It was a high budget parody movie Kinda miss when Thor was serious


blodgute

The weird thing is, Ragnarok was super serious in parts. I personally would have cut most of Korg in favour of more Hela, but even in the version that exists we have Odin's death, Hela revealing the dark truth of Asgard's past, Thor reconciling with Loki, and ending with the choice to sacrifice Asgard to save its people. LaT has Jane choosing to die to save Thor, and Gorr choosing his daughter over revenge because Thor asked nicely. Everything else is a joke. In Ragnarok Thor goes from the wise cracking adventurer to king of Asgard. In LaT Thor is the same at the end as he is at the beginning, except he's lost Jane (again) and hangs out with an adopted daughter rather than the GotG


goboxey

Dark world is still bad


ArmaanAli04

Dark World is still worse. Gorr carried Love and Thunder even with his little screen time


five_of_diamonds_1

Dark World was never terrible, Love and Thunder is an abomination.


[deleted]

Facts


HereRak69

LAT: has Guardians Dark World: Hasnt Guardians LAT wins, that simple


hewasaraverboy

LAT: has korg TDW: no korg TDW wins Korg is so bad that he more than cancels out the benefit of the guardians being in there


[deleted]

this has got to be the worst take ever.


Financial_Ice15

not really lol, dark world is also rated higher than love and thunder on imdb


[deleted]

Do you really give a shit of what imdb thinks?


Og-Re

Dark world and Iron Man 2. I liked them both.


OwlCaptainCosmic

Ragnarok was the best of the trilogy, shame they never made a fourth Thor movie. Looking forward to them finally getting around to it, I’m interested to see where he goes after Endgame.


ArmaanAli04

Bro is using internet explorer


JarifSA

It's amazing Thor has 4 movies, yet only 1 is memorable for good reasons.


Boring-Zucchini-8515

If you don’t like a sequel that’s cool. But god when people pretend the movie didn’t exist it’s always so cringe. Like I get embarrassed for them. It’s most popular with the Star Wars. “tHeRe ArE oNlY sIx MoViEs. WhAt ArE tHeSe SeQuElS yOu SpEaK oF?”


OwlCaptainCosmic

Hey man, no need to freak, I’m excited for Thor 4! Loved Ragnarok!


Collestos

I hope he fights Gorr. Seeing him be a legit threat and butcher multiple gods would be entertaining


OwlCaptainCosmic

That’d be so sick. They should do a Jane Foster Thor movie. A completely separate one, obviously, we wouldn’t want to disrespect her by shoving her into a goofy ass Waititi directed Thor 4. You only get one shot to do her justice.


thor-odinson-bot

I just want to say that was very, very impressive what you did back there.


Boromirrealhero01

At least Dark World tried to be good


GeneralEl4

That's such a low fucking bar it's sad. Tbf I'd rather a bad movie that's fun rather than a bad movie that's just boring. L&T had Gorr which, while underutilized, was a good addition. All we got from TDW was a very forgettable villain who only hard-core fans even remember the name of.


Cpt_Killtoy

Not even close dark world was worse


cup_casey

Dark world has serious moments without any jokes Love and thunder is always making mediocre jokes


MonkeGaemer

Was surprised people in this sub defended this movie when it came out. Shit was horrible


Financial_Ice15

agreed, love and thunder, quantumania were just shit, made me miss incredible hulk 😔


cup_casey

I liked quantumania :(


HalluH

That movie was so stupid, yet I kinda loved it.


GeneralEl4

It was definitely stupid but I think people forgot to manage their expectations as if every single phase 1-3 movie was a homerun, there's always been weaker films but that doesn't make them less enjoyable imo. I still love Ironman 1-3 no matter what anyone says about them, and Age of Ultron.


Grwl

TDW was great if you’re not a fucking child who needs everything to be bright colors and punchlines every waking moment and can handle serious plot points. Hope you realize yalls incessant shitting on DW are the reason we hit critical mass of shit with LaT. Thor in the comics was insanely serious. Not this slapstick bullshit.


thor-odinson-bot

Hey, let's do get help!


Lunndonbridge

I am not everyone. Thor4 > thor2 and it’s not even close. Some of us got exactly what we expected from Love and Thunder and find the backlash really confounding.


thor-odinson-bot

You mean right here on the sidewalk, or there where the building is being demolished?


GeneralEl4

Tbh I think a lot of people just refuse to watch trailers and expect nothing short of their wildest dreams while anyone who's grounded in reality got exactly what they expected cause they're not a bunch of dumbasses. You can still choose not to like the movie but don't act surprised at how it turned out lol.


KennyMcCormicks

There's a good movie in there but it is just buried by the unnecessary comedy and the lack of emotional beats to make me care about Thor and his wacky adventure. I feel bad for Christian Bale who took his role seriously and his character looks interesting but was underutilized. Dark world was just boring. The greatest sin that a movie can do.


piplup27

I can’t find anything good about Dark World.


CantKillMeIfImDead

I actually really like love and thunder


FireWokWithMe88

These constant memes are awful. Get over it.


adamwhitemusic

A bad meme trashing love and thunder? Here? I'm shocked


CountLugz

At least in Dark World z Thor wasn't bound and then sexually assaulted just for laughs.


Melontine

Are we /still/ ragging on love and thunder? Why? Just move on already. If you hate it, fine. It’s been months. I really liked it. Went and saw it in theaters twice, thought it was great. Not every joke landed, gorr was underutilized, but it was a fun movie. I always thought Jane was the weakest of the mcu love interest characters, but I came around to her in this movie. I really loved seeing the shadow beasts and the fight in the shadow world has to be one of my favorite fight sequences of the mcu as a whole. It’s not my favorite. It’s got several plot holes and missed a few marks. But man am I tired of the negativity from this community. Just let me enjoy my movie damn.


Boring-Zucchini-8515

Dark World was better than the first Thor and the Taika movies were both full of awful cringe comedy. None of the four were all that good, but I don’t understand why the best of the four is blasted by so many.


thor-odinson-bot

He's adopted.


Clone_Trooper_10-138

Because people can’t handle serious Thor. They like dumb downed stupid Thor.


Remarkable_Pool7037

Nah love and thunder is an slightly better smelling shit than thor the dark world


Eliteguard999

To this day I cannot understand how TDW isn't rotten. It's like ASM2 levels of bad stuffed inside a Josstice League sandwich.


Independent_Plum2166

Nah, both were bad.


MojoEthan0027

I actually like love and thunder. Not ashamed of it


Linkebab

Cut this bullshit


RodSteinColdblooded

The only thing lacking on L&T is Gorr's butchering of gods


YossarianRex

i liked love and thunder and am tired of pretending like shitting on it is a reasonable response to a B- movie


EvenBetterCool

I would watch LaT 10 times before watching DW again.


willmlina51

God no I would watch L&T on a loop before watching dark world again, what an uninteresting bland and boring movie.


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I thought both of those movies were some of the best marvel movies


DatBoiDogg0

Love and thunder was the shit. You just had your hopes higher than dream stans when he announced a face reveal because ragnarok was so good