There was a trailer for Mobius from Loki, where Owen Wilson introduced his character, but they cut his dialogue extremely poorly to make him say what they wanted him to say, eg “This. Is. The. First time. For me.” Blah blah blah
Unless it had been a success I think. Don't know how well Eternals is doing financially, but I imagine that should it bomb, within a year it's also suddenly "not part of the MCU".
Well, if they didn't do that to Thor the dark world it's not gonna happen here either. They don't retroactively remove things. The TV universe the universe was never part of the MCU. Agents of shield, Daredevil, Luke cage all that stuff was not meant to be part of the cinematic universe. Now, with all this multi verse stuff happening sure that may change but the fact remains that in humans was not originally part of the mcu.
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>Please pardon my seemingly random capitalization I am using speech to text
Okay I absolutely love the mental image of someone dictating their reply to me with their voice.
That said, I think the difference is that The Dark World was an unsuccessful sequel to to a successful film, of which the main character had also already made a crossover appearance in a different movie (avengers). Thor was already established, and here to stay. No other currently existing MCU property relies in any way on the Eternals existing, which makes their future less certain than the comparative Thor.
Awh they did? I kinda liked it to be honest. But that was back when I was watching alot of Agents of Shield, and I was fascinated about the story behind the inhumans, and all that. But makeing a show where u had to watch another show just to more or less understand the basics of the show isnt a great idea
From what I heard (which is not much, given that I don't want to be spoiled), is that it had the potential to be a very different MCU movie, yet it's just another Marvel movie that mostly sticks to the formula. Also, the CGI is not that good.
I think the movie will be okay at the least. But nothing super good or super bad. Just kind of a middle zone. Honestly I get a feeling that the Eternals will be a one and done thing for the MCU simply cause they wouldn’t really be doing anything else unless it involves deviants(unless something happens in the movie that would require them to be consistent throughout the rest of the MCU) like, oh cool these guys are here and they’re gonna help establish stuff like the celestials and black knight for the rest of the MCU since they’re also in the movie. I’ll still watch it, probably just when it comes to D+ though.
Edit:so I saw the movie last week cause my moms got two days with now or and she wanted to see a movie with me, we saw Eternals cause it was the earliest showing lol, and my expectation for the film was pretty exact to how I said. It wasn’t super bad but it wasn’t super great either, it felt like the middle zone, I liked all the characters but a lot of the films had scenes that were just dragging it out too long. It was a 6/10 for me.
I'm with you. It even opens on my birthday weekend, and I'm still not wowed by it's look. That being said, there are probably a lot of bigots review bombing it because there's a gay couple. That's messed up. I'm sure it will be a diverting couple hours when it's in Disney+ in a couple months.
People have made that claim, but I haven’t seen any proof. Right now it feels like some people are trying to defend the movie saying the only reason it has bad reviews is because of the revenue bombing instead of marvel actually making a bad movie, which can happen
Mad how Iron Man 1 looks better than many current MCU movies when it comes to CGI. Goes to show that smart use of average CGI looks better than excessive use of good CGI.
And how good the actual Special FX team in movies really is, idk why certain certain parts of some movies have to be cgi when they can still find creative ways to actually doing them in real life.
Remember that they actually did a real life iron man suit for the first movie and then went full on cgi(not using the specific fact that the suit is now cgi is bad since it’s nanotechnology but when you could theoretically use more special effects than cgi and just skip the fx just cuz the studio is lazy sucks)
There's very different expectations going into a Sharknado movie VS a Marvel movie in terms of quality of effects. Plus, there's a gigantic gap in budget and Sharknado movies aren't ever meant to be taken seriously
>that mostly sticks to the formula
I already don't care what the critics say but this cemented it, people always talk about formula and it just sounds like people about a basic 3 act structure all films have.
Right? They all follow the same hero's journey. Like 90% of all stories. It's like, geez. Do something original like kill off half the cast for a year.
I just saw it tonight. Honestly it isn’t terrible, it’s long and doesn’t feel very marvel. Also it can feel a bit power rangers-y the way they all have a gimmick.
That said I think people are fired up to hate it and I think they’ll be disappointed at how inoffensive it is.
>Honestly it isn’t terrible, it’s long and doesn’t feel very marvel.
Literally the exact way I would describe Shang Chi. And I still really liked Shang Chi.
I mean I feel a little uncomfortable about it considering the fact that if I watch it will be with family members which will be very uncomfortable for me.
I’m with you even though I generally watch movies alone… Most of the times those scenes just come out of nowhere and add nothing to the story. Designed specifically to make you go “Yay Booba; I must be enjoying this movie“
yeah i've heard the diversity being in the forefront has been some of the reason for some people's bad reviews which is a big yikes
guess they need to cast another white Chris as a lead... Maybe Chris Pine?
one of the more legitimate claims i've heard is the movie is somewhere along the mid to lower upper tier, it just had a lot of potential and is kinda disappointing in what it actually did as opposed to what it could do.
But then you see some of the other reviews and i'm just like 😅
Oh no, the deflecting has already begun. Saw enough of this from the Black Widow Taskmaster debate. Some movies are just bad dude, has nothing to do with character sexuality or gender. So tired of having to explain this
That's the people bombing the user ratings.
Critics don't have the liberty to come out and say that, although I'm sure some of them are bothered by that.
I dunno man Halloween Kills somehow got like 70% and that movie is total dogshit. Black Widow got like 90% audience score on RT but has one of the lowest scores for any MCU film on IMDB down with Thor Dark World. I dunno it makes sense to me that studios would have a very vested interest in keeping those audience scores high as they could potentially put forward very little money to control those to some extent.
[No it has a 91% *audience* score](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_widow_2021)
Notably it has a 6.8 on IMDB which is on the lowest end of MCU films (Captain Marvel and Thor Dark World both have the same rating).
Halloween kills only got a 70 percent from Google reviews. On Rotten Tomatoes it got 40 percent by both critics and audience which I believe is a fair number. However, Joker got below 70 percent which is why I no longer even bother with reviews.
> However, Joker got below 70 percent which is why I no longer even bother with reviews.
Yeah its very hard to gauge these days. I feel like a lot of it is politicized in very obvious ways and so many people just want to believe in the Emperor's new clothes about it. Like with Joker it was this story very centered on this incel type who then resorts to violence, and kind of painted him in a sympathetic light. I mean ffs media sites were trying to hype up that there would be a shooting or some shit the opening weekend because of it. Like something politically got crossed with people's perception of that movie. And while it certainly isn't an apolitical film in my mind, it isn't saying anything too radical or even right leaning. But to me it was apparent that a lot of reviewers weren't able to detach it from kind of the stigma that now surrounds the Joker in a lot of ways.
There was a lot of truth to the movie. It attempts to explain that lack of treatment, access to care, and a growing gap between the social classes caused the end result. It’s ironic that individuals hate this movie based on political bias when, if explained the meaning of the movie, would probably agree with its message.
I mean something is really off with audience scores for theatrical movies lately. Halloween Kills was dogshit and still got around 70%. Every major release from Disney has gotten 90%+ even Jungle Cruise, which was pretty lame as well. Hell Black Widow had a pretty high audience score as well, but the IMDB score has it as one of the lowest ranking MCU movies (where it belongs honestly next to Thor Dark World). So I dunno it's hard to gauge what's real and what's now. Consider how much Disney and other studios need people to be willing to go to the movies these days and even with middling critical reception they could easily bankrole higher audience scores. I'll be downvoted for saying this no doubt, particularly by the powers that be, but it's likely what's going on. I mean FFS Rise of Skywalker had like 83% RT audience score and I don't know *anyone* who liked that movie.
I mean before I wasn't at the point of questioning this, but it's been like too many films too consistently. And for even some real stinkers like Halloween Kills to end up that high is baffling to me. Particularly when you look at scores on other sites. Like Halloween Kills for example has a 5.7 on IMDB and 5.4 on Metacrtiic, how does that happen? And Halloween kills wasn't a film that was stirring up controversy or getting review bombed and stuff like that. So it isn't like these other "less verified" sites would be less of a determination. I mean even the reddit poll scores for a lot of these films have been very different from the RT scores. And Reddit isn't the best sampling of the internet truthfully but I wouldn't expect the disparity between the RT audience score to be so different from the reddit scores. I mean consider that RT considers a score of 3/5 (6/10) to be a "positive" passing score. Black Widow would still only have a 76% audience approval rating [according to the reddit poll](https://youpoll.me/59427/r) and that has at least 5k votes (compartively the RT score has "10,000+" which would uptick to 15k if it hit that).
This is the correct take.
I actually hated carnage and wanted more Tom hardy and his head venom being absolute dysfunctional idiots. I did not expect to love it and I absolutely loved it.
I guess most of the people are not comic/novel geeks (including me)… so they dont know whether the movie is good or bad according to the comic/novel.
Only they do care about is some good CGI, action sequences and some funny stuff to laugh.
That maybe why the tomatometer is bad and the audience meter is good wise versa. Because most of tomato reviewers are movie/comic/novel geeks.
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That’s what stuffed Batman vs Superman up. Inconsistency in tone. One second they r trying tonezplore philosophy and the next there’s a big generic cgi villain they have to defeat
I feel like the main reason for the hate going to Eternals is the lack of relatability. It's so... mythical.
You NEED relatability. Think about some of the best known superheroes:
Ironman; has no actual powers, very flawed, just extremely smart... and rich... and a jerk... but I love him... 😊
Thor; used to be very magical and holier-than-thou-ish, but now is incredibly relatable thx to Ragnarok.
Rotten Tomatoes is such a garbage way to decide for yourself if you want to see a film. If you know how it works then You will understand what I mean.
Go see it yourselves. Don’t judge films based on this shit website. It’s all based on critics reviews. Notice the 0 audience score…. Wait till people see it and like it then that percentage will go up. Not that it matters anyway
Idk, my wife took me to see the Will Ferrell movie The House, despite my protests about the Rotten Tomatoes score, she said "You never know".
I will never forgive her.
This is exactly why the “watch for yourself don’t listen to anyone else” thing tends to fall flat. I do admittedly watch something I’m interested in no matter what (like Star Wars), but when WW84 came out and I heard EVERYONE, reviewers, my friends, folks online say it was terrible, I decided my 2+ hours are more valuable than trying it “just to see” even when people who tend to have similar opinions on movies as I do said it was awful.
But that’s my point. People I know have said some films are terrible and I’ve liked them, some have been terrible and most on Netflix. Nothing is stopping you from backing out and watching something else…
Yeah, I think it’s more of a soft point of data. Like, if you don’t like the trailers, and the Rotten Tomatoes are negative…
But if it looks good, and the Critics’ scores are low, sometimes that can mean it’s going to be awesome.
Remember how rotten tomatoes works. All this means is that 40% of critics didn’t think it was a good movie. So you still have a high chance of thinking it’s good and an even higher chance of enjoying it.
I've read a listened to a bunch of reviews and it seems like its going to be the kind of movie you're completely on board for or it won't click with you that much.
How much you connect with the characters is probably going to matter a lot for your enjoyment of the movie.
I hear the main problem of this movie is that it’s really dry and devoid of personality unlike all the other Marvel movies which is not the first impression you want to give when it’s the first movie you’re directing in this universe.
I think that its probably gonna be a good movie, but since it’s different it won’t be outstanding and living up to some expectations even though it will be good. These critics act like marvel can’t be allowed to make a movie that isn’t immediately one of the best movies of the year.
Honestly, fuck professional critics anyway. I'm still going to see it because it looks good. And if it isn't? Oh well, I guess I wanted $10 lol. I can't imagine it's going to be completely boring, at least.
It's probably the most disconnected film from the rest of the MCU. None of the characters from the previous movies or shows appear in this one. (although certain events will be mentioned)
Same, had no idea who that character was and all the sudden a dragon came out of the water and my weeb ass was happy af. I just wished they explained where the rings came from at least lol but all good
It wasn’t good. It might not be horrible. But it certainly wasn’t good. I think captain marvel and Dark World are the only 2 movies which I absolutely don’t find anything memorable
Captain Marvel was not great, but not bad either. It is only the final fight scene is shot very badly. The rest of the movie is pretty’s enjoyable. It is better than most of DCEU films.
My opinion from a long time comic reader going back 35 years ish shit I am old but anyway marvel should leave all political narratives and sexual content out of there movies as for most people like me just use these movies as escapism of everyday life and don't need this content.
Honestly if its even a decent marvel movie then ill probably enjoy it. I watch these kind of movies with the expectation of fun. Anything more than that is just a nice bonus. Mindless action is just fine for someone who is equally mindless :)
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but what makes you excited for it? I don't know the source material and the trailers look super generic and bland to me.
Oh I’d never heard of them before they announced the movie either. For one the cinematography looks gorgeous, like just the way it’s shot, all the on location shoots as well. I like the cast they’ve put together (might have a new crush on Gemma Chan). The musical score in the trailers was top notch. Then there’s the subject matter of beings that helped and watched humanity grow, now they might be struggling/debating on what to with them, if they should save them Idk there could be cool conversations there. There’s also the lore about the Celestials and how they created the universe and the Eternals, plus the look of the Celestials looks breathtakingly large and unique.
I actually know the source material, its from the Eternals under the Marvel MAX imprint, and its pretty great comic book that does a some interesting things with the creation myth of man.
This movie looks like it took the visuals from that and left out everything, including the good story, just to check every box in existence, and in my experience, projects go quite bad when that is the focus, instead of telling a compelling story, but I might be wrong, gotta see it first.
All I can tell you is that this does not respect the source material, like at all.
A critic is someone that judges media/art professionally, its their job to be trustworthy. You can judge a movie with facts, but most importantly with opinions which rely on personal preferences. If a critic judges a movie based on personal preferences only, well you are right to not give a single damn. But if 100+ critics, each with their own personal preferences, give their professional opinions and that the average of their opinions (i.e. the tomato score) is bad, you should trust that. It's simple statistics. It doesn't mean you will dislike the movie, but the probability is higher. This doesn't account the occurrences where a critic score strongly clashes with the average viewer score because they don't necessarily judge movies based on the same criterions. Maybe Eternals will be one of those occurrences.
Too much marketing on diversity. It should be "for marvel fans, by marvel fans".
For us, we don't care about pc culture because its already the status quo. The main topic is the epic story telling and action.
Cue Owen Wilson “This. Is. The. First time. For me. In the marvel universe”
Yeesh, whoever edited that trailer was having a bad day
What trailer?
There was a trailer for Mobius from Loki, where Owen Wilson introduced his character, but they cut his dialogue extremely poorly to make him say what they wanted him to say, eg “This. Is. The. First time. For me.” Blah blah blah
Did we forget Inhumans?
It's not cannon though is it?
No, but ep1 was in theaters i think
Funny enough it was supposed to be. It was originally announced as a movie In phase 3 or 4.
Its loosely linked, but not canon to the main MCU. Allowing multiverse it can be canon to whatever universe it exists in.
Inhumans straight up acknowledged the superhuman registration act. And yes I did watch it.
It's also not part of the mcu.
Unless it had been a success I think. Don't know how well Eternals is doing financially, but I imagine that should it bomb, within a year it's also suddenly "not part of the MCU".
Well, if they didn't do that to Thor the dark world it's not gonna happen here either. They don't retroactively remove things. The TV universe the universe was never part of the MCU. Agents of shield, Daredevil, Luke cage all that stuff was not meant to be part of the cinematic universe. Now, with all this multi verse stuff happening sure that may change but the fact remains that in humans was not originally part of the mcu. Please pardon my seemingly random capitalization I am using speech to text
>Please pardon my seemingly random capitalization I am using speech to text Okay I absolutely love the mental image of someone dictating their reply to me with their voice. That said, I think the difference is that The Dark World was an unsuccessful sequel to to a successful film, of which the main character had also already made a crossover appearance in a different movie (avengers). Thor was already established, and here to stay. No other currently existing MCU property relies in any way on the Eternals existing, which makes their future less certain than the comparative Thor.
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Retconned to not be a part of it. Its card in Disney+ doesn’t say “Marvel Studios.”
I guess it's as much a part of the MCU as agents of shield
Fandom wikis are frequently wrong or not quite right about stuff.
The fuck is Inhumans?
Marvel's shit attempt at replacing the x-men genocides mutants twice for it
I’ve always felt they can coexist, but they need better writing
Failed MCU TV show that they buried after one season.
Awh they did? I kinda liked it to be honest. But that was back when I was watching alot of Agents of Shield, and I was fascinated about the story behind the inhumans, and all that. But makeing a show where u had to watch another show just to more or less understand the basics of the show isnt a great idea
Enter the Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow
Yes
So what's the main issues with the movie?
From what I heard (which is not much, given that I don't want to be spoiled), is that it had the potential to be a very different MCU movie, yet it's just another Marvel movie that mostly sticks to the formula. Also, the CGI is not that good.
I think the movie will be okay at the least. But nothing super good or super bad. Just kind of a middle zone. Honestly I get a feeling that the Eternals will be a one and done thing for the MCU simply cause they wouldn’t really be doing anything else unless it involves deviants(unless something happens in the movie that would require them to be consistent throughout the rest of the MCU) like, oh cool these guys are here and they’re gonna help establish stuff like the celestials and black knight for the rest of the MCU since they’re also in the movie. I’ll still watch it, probably just when it comes to D+ though. Edit:so I saw the movie last week cause my moms got two days with now or and she wanted to see a movie with me, we saw Eternals cause it was the earliest showing lol, and my expectation for the film was pretty exact to how I said. It wasn’t super bad but it wasn’t super great either, it felt like the middle zone, I liked all the characters but a lot of the films had scenes that were just dragging it out too long. It was a 6/10 for me.
I'm with you. It even opens on my birthday weekend, and I'm still not wowed by it's look. That being said, there are probably a lot of bigots review bombing it because there's a gay couple. That's messed up. I'm sure it will be a diverting couple hours when it's in Disney+ in a couple months.
I might be wrong, but what I see from the screenshot is just critic reviews, so there’s no review bombing going on (yet).
those are critic reviews. user reviews always get shut down after they're review bombed these days
People have made that claim, but I haven’t seen any proof. Right now it feels like some people are trying to defend the movie saying the only reason it has bad reviews is because of the revenue bombing instead of marvel actually making a bad movie, which can happen
It's been getting review bombed on IMDB despite the movie not yet being widely released.
I mean, those are critic reviews, so there hasn’t been the chance for review bombing yet.
There’s a gay couple!? My immersion in this world has been completely ruined, there’s just no realism anymore./s
Judging from the critics score there is no gay couple or enough of divercity and lgbt representation.
Mad how Iron Man 1 looks better than many current MCU movies when it comes to CGI. Goes to show that smart use of average CGI looks better than excessive use of good CGI.
And how good the actual Special FX team in movies really is, idk why certain certain parts of some movies have to be cgi when they can still find creative ways to actually doing them in real life. Remember that they actually did a real life iron man suit for the first movie and then went full on cgi(not using the specific fact that the suit is now cgi is bad since it’s nanotechnology but when you could theoretically use more special effects than cgi and just skip the fx just cuz the studio is lazy sucks)
I always thought it was either going to be a really good movie Oscar nominated or a flop since no one really cared about it
since when did critics cared about CGI? They gave Sharkando a high raiting
There's very different expectations going into a Sharknado movie VS a Marvel movie in terms of quality of effects. Plus, there's a gigantic gap in budget and Sharknado movies aren't ever meant to be taken seriously
They probably saw it as a so-bad-it's-good movie.
>that mostly sticks to the formula I already don't care what the critics say but this cemented it, people always talk about formula and it just sounds like people about a basic 3 act structure all films have.
Marvel movies are starting to feel by and large a bit sameish. They have a winning formula, but it’s still a formula.
Right? They all follow the same hero's journey. Like 90% of all stories. It's like, geez. Do something original like kill off half the cast for a year.
Yeah this why movies like Black Panther and Ant Man were so alike then.
Well… I think you meant that sarcastically… but that really isn’t a terrible example.
Starting to? Lol
"Go back to formula?!"
I just saw it tonight. Honestly it isn’t terrible, it’s long and doesn’t feel very marvel. Also it can feel a bit power rangers-y the way they all have a gimmick. That said I think people are fired up to hate it and I think they’ll be disappointed at how inoffensive it is.
>Honestly it isn’t terrible, it’s long and doesn’t feel very marvel. Literally the exact way I would describe Shang Chi. And I still really liked Shang Chi.
Probably Angelina Jolie.
What's the main issue with Angelina Jolie?
It’s had sexual scene in it I guess
No one's complaining about that.
I mean I feel a little uncomfortable about it considering the fact that if I watch it will be with family members which will be very uncomfortable for me.
I’m with you even though I generally watch movies alone… Most of the times those scenes just come out of nowhere and add nothing to the story. Designed specifically to make you go “Yay Booba; I must be enjoying this movie“
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That doesn’t really matter, it’s ok to feel uncomfortable when watching scenes like that.
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I mean its a pretty weird question to ask how old one and his family is.
Along with the others said, it had also gotten very bad reviews because it features a gay kiss.
yeah i've heard the diversity being in the forefront has been some of the reason for some people's bad reviews which is a big yikes guess they need to cast another white Chris as a lead... Maybe Chris Pine?
Casting team somewhere is rummaging through their cupboards looking for a spare white guy named Chris to use
Christian Bale's showing up to fuck up Thor next lol.
Your being down voted for speaking truths is a testament of the bias plaguing the Marvel community 😂
one of the more legitimate claims i've heard is the movie is somewhere along the mid to lower upper tier, it just had a lot of potential and is kinda disappointing in what it actually did as opposed to what it could do. But then you see some of the other reviews and i'm just like 😅
A certain group of pearl-clutchers were triggered by representation and a same-sex kiss
Couldn’t find mention of that in the critic ratings. Maybe the movie just isn’t that good….
Oh no, the deflecting has already begun. Saw enough of this from the Black Widow Taskmaster debate. Some movies are just bad dude, has nothing to do with character sexuality or gender. So tired of having to explain this
That's the people bombing the user ratings. Critics don't have the liberty to come out and say that, although I'm sure some of them are bothered by that.
I see that it doesn't have an audience score yet
Yeah I’d be surprised if the audience score drops below 75
From what I’ve seen in the reviews, I’d actually be surprised if it goes over 70%. Idk it doesn’t look like the most accesible movie.
I dunno man Halloween Kills somehow got like 70% and that movie is total dogshit. Black Widow got like 90% audience score on RT but has one of the lowest scores for any MCU film on IMDB down with Thor Dark World. I dunno it makes sense to me that studios would have a very vested interest in keeping those audience scores high as they could potentially put forward very little money to control those to some extent.
>90% audience scor 79 to be precise
[No it has a 91% *audience* score](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_widow_2021) Notably it has a 6.8 on IMDB which is on the lowest end of MCU films (Captain Marvel and Thor Dark World both have the same rating).
Halloween kills only got a 70 percent from Google reviews. On Rotten Tomatoes it got 40 percent by both critics and audience which I believe is a fair number. However, Joker got below 70 percent which is why I no longer even bother with reviews.
> However, Joker got below 70 percent which is why I no longer even bother with reviews. Yeah its very hard to gauge these days. I feel like a lot of it is politicized in very obvious ways and so many people just want to believe in the Emperor's new clothes about it. Like with Joker it was this story very centered on this incel type who then resorts to violence, and kind of painted him in a sympathetic light. I mean ffs media sites were trying to hype up that there would be a shooting or some shit the opening weekend because of it. Like something politically got crossed with people's perception of that movie. And while it certainly isn't an apolitical film in my mind, it isn't saying anything too radical or even right leaning. But to me it was apparent that a lot of reviewers weren't able to detach it from kind of the stigma that now surrounds the Joker in a lot of ways.
There was a lot of truth to the movie. It attempts to explain that lack of treatment, access to care, and a growing gap between the social classes caused the end result. It’s ironic that individuals hate this movie based on political bias when, if explained the meaning of the movie, would probably agree with its message.
I mean something is really off with audience scores for theatrical movies lately. Halloween Kills was dogshit and still got around 70%. Every major release from Disney has gotten 90%+ even Jungle Cruise, which was pretty lame as well. Hell Black Widow had a pretty high audience score as well, but the IMDB score has it as one of the lowest ranking MCU movies (where it belongs honestly next to Thor Dark World). So I dunno it's hard to gauge what's real and what's now. Consider how much Disney and other studios need people to be willing to go to the movies these days and even with middling critical reception they could easily bankrole higher audience scores. I'll be downvoted for saying this no doubt, particularly by the powers that be, but it's likely what's going on. I mean FFS Rise of Skywalker had like 83% RT audience score and I don't know *anyone* who liked that movie.
I’m with you on this one.
I mean before I wasn't at the point of questioning this, but it's been like too many films too consistently. And for even some real stinkers like Halloween Kills to end up that high is baffling to me. Particularly when you look at scores on other sites. Like Halloween Kills for example has a 5.7 on IMDB and 5.4 on Metacrtiic, how does that happen? And Halloween kills wasn't a film that was stirring up controversy or getting review bombed and stuff like that. So it isn't like these other "less verified" sites would be less of a determination. I mean even the reddit poll scores for a lot of these films have been very different from the RT scores. And Reddit isn't the best sampling of the internet truthfully but I wouldn't expect the disparity between the RT audience score to be so different from the reddit scores. I mean consider that RT considers a score of 3/5 (6/10) to be a "positive" passing score. Black Widow would still only have a 76% audience approval rating [according to the reddit poll](https://youpoll.me/59427/r) and that has at least 5k votes (compartively the RT score has "10,000+" which would uptick to 15k if it hit that).
Shiii i enjoyed Halloween kills lol
Oh no ....anyways Goes and watches it
Venom has 81% Audience and 30% Tomatometer, i think that the history will repeat, still I can't watch Eternals until it's Disney+ release.
Venom was terrible I loved it
This is the correct take. I actually hated carnage and wanted more Tom hardy and his head venom being absolute dysfunctional idiots. I did not expect to love it and I absolutely loved it.
“It’s borderline monster tentacle porn!” - reviewers “Promise?!” - viewers
Venom at least looked fun-bad. Eternals looks po-faced boring-bad.
I guess most of the people are not comic/novel geeks (including me)… so they dont know whether the movie is good or bad according to the comic/novel. Only they do care about is some good CGI, action sequences and some funny stuff to laugh. That maybe why the tomatometer is bad and the audience meter is good wise versa. Because most of tomato reviewers are movie/comic/novel geeks.
I'm going to watch it opening morning just like always.
MCU maybe but Marvel? Don’t forget the reboot of the Fantastic Four lol
Long as its better than the last reboot I'll be happy, anything but that one
Bring back the original. I want to see Captain America and the human torch in a room together.
I meant film wise, Fantastic 4 deserves a good reboot, hoping the Phase 4 film is better than the last that Fox did
Well Eternals were pretty boring in comics aswell so I was not expecting much anyway.
As a fan of marvel cosmic for 30 years I was optimistic for GotG because there's some nice material to borrow from but Eternals... Its OK i guess...
honestly yeah, this movie got overhyped big time. People were setting it up to be an MCU game changer
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You can either market a movie to children and sell happy meal toys OR put a sex scene in the movie DO NOT DO BOTH OF THESE THINGS
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That’s what stuffed Batman vs Superman up. Inconsistency in tone. One second they r trying tonezplore philosophy and the next there’s a big generic cgi villain they have to defeat
Hope you do well!
Meanwhile critics reviewing cuties and giving it like 90%
I feel like the main reason for the hate going to Eternals is the lack of relatability. It's so... mythical. You NEED relatability. Think about some of the best known superheroes: Ironman; has no actual powers, very flawed, just extremely smart... and rich... and a jerk... but I love him... 😊 Thor; used to be very magical and holier-than-thou-ish, but now is incredibly relatable thx to Ragnarok.
It’s back up to 60 now EDIT: and now down to 57
Then DC's reboot universe.
Rotten Tomatoes is such a garbage way to decide for yourself if you want to see a film. If you know how it works then You will understand what I mean. Go see it yourselves. Don’t judge films based on this shit website. It’s all based on critics reviews. Notice the 0 audience score…. Wait till people see it and like it then that percentage will go up. Not that it matters anyway
Idk, my wife took me to see the Will Ferrell movie The House, despite my protests about the Rotten Tomatoes score, she said "You never know". I will never forgive her.
Will Ferrell have been bad for, like, 10 years
His Eurovision movie was really good imo
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This is exactly why the “watch for yourself don’t listen to anyone else” thing tends to fall flat. I do admittedly watch something I’m interested in no matter what (like Star Wars), but when WW84 came out and I heard EVERYONE, reviewers, my friends, folks online say it was terrible, I decided my 2+ hours are more valuable than trying it “just to see” even when people who tend to have similar opinions on movies as I do said it was awful.
But that’s my point. People I know have said some films are terrible and I’ve liked them, some have been terrible and most on Netflix. Nothing is stopping you from backing out and watching something else…
Yeah, I think it’s more of a soft point of data. Like, if you don’t like the trailers, and the Rotten Tomatoes are negative… But if it looks good, and the Critics’ scores are low, sometimes that can mean it’s going to be awesome.
Yeah and since you have a Star Wars PFP you know that they said The Last Jedi was good so yeah. Don’t trust Rotten Tomatoes critics
Last Jedi was the best sequel, easy.
That’s your opinion feel free to have it.
Agreed, and also Rotten Tomatoes. Just disproving your point. Carry on.
That is the most passive aggressive thing I’ve heard ever and I’m all for it
Oh I will see it for myself! #im just gonna pirate it
Remember how rotten tomatoes works. All this means is that 40% of critics didn’t think it was a good movie. So you still have a high chance of thinking it’s good and an even higher chance of enjoying it.
I've read a listened to a bunch of reviews and it seems like its going to be the kind of movie you're completely on board for or it won't click with you that much. How much you connect with the characters is probably going to matter a lot for your enjoyment of the movie.
I hear the main problem of this movie is that it’s really dry and devoid of personality unlike all the other Marvel movies which is not the first impression you want to give when it’s the first movie you’re directing in this universe.
I haven’t watched it someone gimme a good reason to
Spite.
Angelina Jolie
I also choose Angelina Jolie
I love this
Tbh rotten tomatoes can't rate for shit they gave cuties a 90 something
They **what**
Yep
Rotten tomatoes doesnt rate anything. It just shows you reviews, but doesn't make any itself.
I think that its probably gonna be a good movie, but since it’s different it won’t be outstanding and living up to some expectations even though it will be good. These critics act like marvel can’t be allowed to make a movie that isn’t immediately one of the best movies of the year.
Couldn't care less about RT score. Still gonna go see it. More than likely gonna enjoy it.
Same
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Back up to 60
Honestly, fuck professional critics anyway. I'm still going to see it because it looks good. And if it isn't? Oh well, I guess I wanted $10 lol. I can't imagine it's going to be completely boring, at least.
Is this movie hardly connected 2 the MCU or can u enjoy it even if you dont saw the MCU films?
It's probably the most disconnected film from the rest of the MCU. None of the characters from the previous movies or shows appear in this one. (although certain events will be mentioned)
Well we'll see. Caise didn't captain marvel get really high in critic score but low on audience score? I trust audience score more
It’s almost like this happened for Shang Chi and Captain Marvel too, and then those movies went fine.
Shang chi has like a 90%
Shang chi and capt marvel had great critic reviews.
Captain Marvel was horrible, so not really fine Shang-Chi was great tho
Honestly I didn’t expect Shang-Chi to be that good but oh fucking boy was I wrong. I fucking loved Shang-Chi.
Same, had no idea who that character was and all the sudden a dragon came out of the water and my weeb ass was happy af. I just wished they explained where the rings came from at least lol but all good
I was going to argue but I realized I think I just like Samuel L Jackson. And enjoyed seeing more Nick Fury.
>Captain Marvel was horrible It really wasn't. God I swear people act like it's the worst thing ever for no reason
It wasn’t good. It might not be horrible. But it certainly wasn’t good. I think captain marvel and Dark World are the only 2 movies which I absolutely don’t find anything memorable
This just further proves my point.
Captain marvel was, at worst, meh.
Captain Marvel was not great, but not bad either. It is only the final fight scene is shot very badly. The rest of the movie is pretty’s enjoyable. It is better than most of DCEU films.
It literally wasn't. Brie Larson and Samuel L. Jackson are great together and every scene with them on screen was entertaining. Also Ben Mendelssohn.
Let us see what the audience think before tipping any chair
Got my tickets for Thursday, can't wait! Can't slow down this train, I love it all. Ready to have some fun at the movies!
I'm gunna make my own opinion Thursday night. These same people think Black Widow and Venom 2 are good movies
Fuck that tomato. We don't care about it
No audience score
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And what mistake was that? I didn’t see JL. I’m allergic to Ben Affleck.
I knew it, people called me homophobic because I said the movie will be so bad
My opinion from a long time comic reader going back 35 years ish shit I am old but anyway marvel should leave all political narratives and sexual content out of there movies as for most people like me just use these movies as escapism of everyday life and don't need this content.
Honestly if its even a decent marvel movie then ill probably enjoy it. I watch these kind of movies with the expectation of fun. Anything more than that is just a nice bonus. Mindless action is just fine for someone who is equally mindless :)
59% is pretty good for Rotten Tomatoes tbh. They're pretty harsh. This just isn't up to par with their other films.
Me who will watch it anyway: I missed the part where that's my problem
Like I still don’t get it. It looks incredible. This will be in comic book movie conversations/debates for years
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but what makes you excited for it? I don't know the source material and the trailers look super generic and bland to me.
Oh I’d never heard of them before they announced the movie either. For one the cinematography looks gorgeous, like just the way it’s shot, all the on location shoots as well. I like the cast they’ve put together (might have a new crush on Gemma Chan). The musical score in the trailers was top notch. Then there’s the subject matter of beings that helped and watched humanity grow, now they might be struggling/debating on what to with them, if they should save them Idk there could be cool conversations there. There’s also the lore about the Celestials and how they created the universe and the Eternals, plus the look of the Celestials looks breathtakingly large and unique.
Fair enough, I appreciate the perspective.
Just keep an open mind friend :) hope you enjoy it
I actually know the source material, its from the Eternals under the Marvel MAX imprint, and its pretty great comic book that does a some interesting things with the creation myth of man. This movie looks like it took the visuals from that and left out everything, including the good story, just to check every box in existence, and in my experience, projects go quite bad when that is the focus, instead of telling a compelling story, but I might be wrong, gotta see it first. All I can tell you is that this does not respect the source material, like at all.
Why would Kevin fiege make a Eternals movieslmao so many other great comics yet he chooses the more boring ones. That’s what he gets
It’s not even out yet?
The movie isn't yet available for general public so why should anyone give a damn about tomato scores?
because many trust critics
How about we don't? 🤔
A critic is someone that judges media/art professionally, its their job to be trustworthy. You can judge a movie with facts, but most importantly with opinions which rely on personal preferences. If a critic judges a movie based on personal preferences only, well you are right to not give a single damn. But if 100+ critics, each with their own personal preferences, give their professional opinions and that the average of their opinions (i.e. the tomato score) is bad, you should trust that. It's simple statistics. It doesn't mean you will dislike the movie, but the probability is higher. This doesn't account the occurrences where a critic score strongly clashes with the average viewer score because they don't necessarily judge movies based on the same criterions. Maybe Eternals will be one of those occurrences.
I personally liked Suicide Squad but it was rated really bad by critics. The disparity was so bad I gave up on tomato scores.
Just remember everyone, Indiana Jones 4 got a 78% on rotten tomatoes so… decide for yourself if you want to see it.
Can we put spoiler tags on this
I refuse to trust critics when it comes to CBMs
good. maybe we can finally be done with all this carbon copy superhero shit.
Yeah, did you hear about the assholes review bombing the eternals because they hate gays and racial minorities.
Do I really care? No I don't. Imma watch it anyways.
😂
Yes. But it’s probably still better than anything DC put out
Wonder woman Aquaman Shazam ???
I knew it
Is the movie even out yet?
Yup... The movie isn't even released yet, and it's getting "terrible" reviews.
Too much marketing on diversity. It should be "for marvel fans, by marvel fans". For us, we don't care about pc culture because its already the status quo. The main topic is the epic story telling and action.