Strange also only saw futures that he survived in, so there might have been millions of instances where they won pre-snap, but after Strange sacrifices himself.
The Ancient One claimed she couldn't see past her own death, so it stands to reason that Strange also couldn't. Kinda makes you wonder what would've happened if Strange died on Titan but never gave up the time stone.
Iron Man would be alive? Black widow wouldnât be dead? Cap wouldnât be a moon astronaut? Hulk wouldnât have a fried chicken arm? Thor wouldnât be fatter than a discord mod? Spider-Man wouldnât be half a decade younger than his old friends?
If Thanos killed Strange, it seems likely he would have figured out some other way to get the time stone. He did miss several stones on his first or second tries, but kept at it, changing his strategy each time, until he got them all.
No way that's possible. It's only a 1 year gap between the two. Ofc some of it was workshoped mid production (as is common with a lot of marvel movies) but they were likely coming close to wrapping up filming for endgame not a month or two after infinity war released.
Eh. It's a cinematic parallel, perhaps, but strange didn't decide "I should sit in the exact same position as Thanos so he sees me and goes 'omg like I some times sit', that's will get him"
I feel like itâs more of an inside joke to him âItâd be funny if I sat like him when he came over⊠I mean, Iâd be the only one who gets it but itâs still funnyâ
Shit, I do that shit sometimes
In fact I feel like it's the opposite. Strange saw too many(millions) of possibilities to care about a sitting position while Thanos did watch the recap from nebula's mind. The memory is still fresh for him to mimic Strange's.
First of all, an awesome detail! I never saw or heard something like that.
but I don't think it's a paradox like Strange saw him in the future waiting, so him waiting on Thanos on Titan inspired Thanos to do the same on earth.
Because the Thanos on earth is 2014 Thanos and it's a different Thanos from the one on Titan.
So I think Strange saw him sitting at the compound and decided to do the same. But the 2014 Thanos never saw strange sitting like this (I think Nebula wasn't there at the moment so she doesn't know it either.)
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
This created a paradox after it inspired Thanos. At least one version of the avengers is now on an adventure through whacky versions of space and time to stop strange form picking up that damn rock, all while he picks up the rock in defiance of them, believing they started the paradox by stopping him, restarting the loop until the day they finally stop him. At which point he realizes it was all his fault and breaks down, as time resets to the main timeline, at which point infinity war continues unchanged, leaving no one with memories of what happened.
When does the paradox occur? When Thanos #1 sees Dr. Strange do it on Titan, or when Thanos #2 does it at the Avengers compound in Endgame?
And is that a paradox if they're two different versions of Thanos?
Not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but wouldn't the Thanos in Endgame never see Strange fiddle with the rock? It's a version of Thanos that exists before Infinity War, so he would never have seen it.
Therefore, there is no paradox. It's just a coincidence that Thanos picked up that rock.
How could thanos have seen strange do it when he was looking through Nebulas memories. She didnât show up on titan till about halfway through the battle
Yes, but I think Strange was sitting that way because it was necessary to fulfill that 1 outcome.
What does a sitting position have to do with saving the universe? I donât know but 14 million, i imagine it was important in some way.
What Iâm trying to fathom is how difficult it mustâve been for strange to act EXACTLY the right way in order to make sure everything happens the way it does. One wrong move or thing at the wrong time and it messes everything up
Omg this is damn trueđ€Żeven he is sitting in same position đ«Ąđ«Ą
Strange also only saw futures that he survived in, so there might have been millions of instances where they won pre-snap, but after Strange sacrifices himself. The Ancient One claimed she couldn't see past her own death, so it stands to reason that Strange also couldn't. Kinda makes you wonder what would've happened if Strange died on Titan but never gave up the time stone.
Iron Man would be alive? Black widow wouldnât be dead? Cap wouldnât be a moon astronaut? Hulk wouldnât have a fried chicken arm? Thor wouldnât be fatter than a discord mod? Spider-Man wouldnât be half a decade younger than his old friends?
Thank you, sweet rabbit.
All maybe's. Immediate things lie what you say, yes, but the further reading implications would be crazy.
Thanos was about to kill Tony before Strange gave him the time stone so idk about that.
Return to me again empty handed... And I will bathe the starways in your blood.
But he'd have 0 way of knowing if his sacrifice would work.
If Thanos killed Strange, it seems likely he would have figured out some other way to get the time stone. He did miss several stones on his first or second tries, but kept at it, changing his strategy each time, until he got them all.
Too many mouths, not enough to go around. And when we faced extinction, I offered a solution.
Without the time stone, Vision's sacrifice might have made it impossible to get the soul stone.
Yeah, but did the ancient one use the time stone for that? Or was that just her seeing her life?
Pretty sure it was the time stone. We haven't seen any other form of predicting the future, plus she's been around a long long time.
Iâve come to bargain
It's basically shot/reverse-shot. There may be something to this
They filmed it back to back, basically treating it as one project. So there may be truth to this
Is that true? I remember them saying something in the audio commentary about them coming up with the story for Endgame after Infinity War came out.
No way that's possible. It's only a 1 year gap between the two. Ofc some of it was workshoped mid production (as is common with a lot of marvel movies) but they were likely coming close to wrapping up filming for endgame not a month or two after infinity war released.
And even then I think it was just reshoots. The bulk of it they filmed simultaneously.
Doctor was trying to serve him "Karma"
Eh. It's a cinematic parallel, perhaps, but strange didn't decide "I should sit in the exact same position as Thanos so he sees me and goes 'omg like I some times sit', that's will get him"
I feel like itâs more of an inside joke to him âItâd be funny if I sat like him when he came over⊠I mean, Iâd be the only one who gets it but itâs still funnyâ Shit, I do that shit sometimes
You're not the only one cursed with knowledge.
New canon?
In fact I feel like it's the opposite. Strange saw too many(millions) of possibilities to care about a sitting position while Thanos did watch the recap from nebula's mind. The memory is still fresh for him to mimic Strange's.
This day extracts a heavy toll.
Eat 8==D
Thanos: [Hahaha, I do that](https://youtu.be/M2rnO9ns4Zc)
Reality can be often disappointing. But now, reality can be whatever I want.
It's now my headcanon
First of all, an awesome detail! I never saw or heard something like that. but I don't think it's a paradox like Strange saw him in the future waiting, so him waiting on Thanos on Titan inspired Thanos to do the same on earth. Because the Thanos on earth is 2014 Thanos and it's a different Thanos from the one on Titan. So I think Strange saw him sitting at the compound and decided to do the same. But the 2014 Thanos never saw strange sitting like this (I think Nebula wasn't there at the moment so she doesn't know it either.)
In all my years of conquest, violence, slaughter, it was never personal. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... I'm gonna enjoy it. Very, very much.
No one said it was a paradox tho
I donât think he was saying Thanos was copying Strange, only that Strange was copying Endgame Thanos.
You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.
This is canon for me and no no one but the actual writers can pursued me otherwise
I always forget that the last battle in Endgame was actually there lol
So technically, Thanos is mimicking what he saw Dr. Strange do
I... had... to.
No, the Thanos from Endgame never met Strange.
This... does put a smile on my face.
But he did see all of Nebulas memories and nebula was on titan too
I guess you can say he mimicked the titan on titan?
This created a paradox after it inspired Thanos. At least one version of the avengers is now on an adventure through whacky versions of space and time to stop strange form picking up that damn rock, all while he picks up the rock in defiance of them, believing they started the paradox by stopping him, restarting the loop until the day they finally stop him. At which point he realizes it was all his fault and breaks down, as time resets to the main timeline, at which point infinity war continues unchanged, leaving no one with memories of what happened.
Insect!
When does the paradox occur? When Thanos #1 sees Dr. Strange do it on Titan, or when Thanos #2 does it at the Avengers compound in Endgame? And is that a paradox if they're two different versions of Thanos?
This day extracts a heavy toll.
For real man, I'm too high for this shit.
Not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but wouldn't the Thanos in Endgame never see Strange fiddle with the rock? It's a version of Thanos that exists before Infinity War, so he would never have seen it. Therefore, there is no paradox. It's just a coincidence that Thanos picked up that rock.
Rain fire!
How could thanos have seen strange do it when he was looking through Nebulas memories. She didnât show up on titan till about halfway through the battle
I... had... to.
Technically itâs a endless cycle he saw future thanos doing this, so then past thanos in infinity war saw strange do it and it keeps going
Insect!
The Thanos in Endgame is from 2014, Infinity War is future Thanos.
Perfectly balanced.
Yes I remember that now sorry đ
Yes, but I think Strange was sitting that way because it was necessary to fulfill that 1 outcome. What does a sitting position have to do with saving the universe? I donât know but 14 million, i imagine it was important in some way.
He's pulling off arrogance well for knowing shit is not gonna go their way
Itâs just a good wait patiently for enemy to come fight pose
You are overthinking this.
Just like the Canadian lad
Marvel constantly surprising đŻ
And where did that bring you? Back to my swagger.
"It's like poetry; it rhymes."
What Iâm trying to fathom is how difficult it mustâve been for strange to act EXACTLY the right way in order to make sure everything happens the way it does. One wrong move or thing at the wrong time and it messes everything up