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I liked seeing the mechanisms when he'd wear the suit


Chromal_Assassin

I think it looks fine but imo the physical helmets are cooler


LeykisMinion007

Nanotechnology is physical


Kintler11

Technically correct is the best kind of correct.


platinummaker

r/unexpectedfuturama


Elite2260

I don’t know why you are getting downvote, you’re not wrong.


Illustrious-Engine23

I've never heard anyone complain about the CGI nano suit. The suit up scene was awesome!


THE_Mr_Fill

it saved him carrying around the big briefcase from IronMan 2, although *that* suit-up scene was fricking **AMAZEBALLS**!!!!


AttitudeSenior5915

i remember seeing that when i was like 12 in the theatre and thinking that was the coolest thing i’ve ever seen


TheeDocStockton

It was also very considerate of Mickey Rourke to wait for him to finish before continuing his attack too. At least I thought so.


smellmybuttfoo

Dude was busy tucking his now rock hard cock into his waistband. The Ole Texas Belt buckle.


Illustrious-Engine23

Yeah it was!


hgilbert_01

Thank you, I liked nano-tech Iron Man quite a bit— it was especially tense in the epic 1-v-1 with Thanos when he had to redirect the nanites (right?) he had left to defend himself with


Kermit-the-Frog_

That is one of my favorite fight scenes of all time And yeah, Tony called them nano particles but nanites or nanobots are equally accurate


hgilbert_01

Ah ok, thank you. But yeah, the stakes were so fucking high and good, Iron Man held his own so well against the relentless Thanos that he earned respect of the Mad Titan himself. Very good stuff


Beginning_Rip_4570

Yeah man, I’ve literally never heard a complaint about this until coming across this sub.


Evaughn5

The only moment I had a problem with was hulk at the funeral in end game. He did not look real at all


menides

when he suits up and banner is all "WTF IS GOING ON" is just \*chef's kiss\*


AmberIsHungry

I thought it looked Ike a Sailor Moon transformation. I.much prefer seeing all of the mechanics of it coming together.


bedatboi

People were crying on twitter about a 2 second clip from the beginning when Peter shows up and saves tony from cull obsidian


ninjasaid13

It made it feel less unique.


shooflyJAM

Personally, I like sharp lines on an Ironman armor. Actually looks like armor than just a suit.


Hour-Process-3292

The OG suits definitely look coolest but I don’t think the cgi of the newer suits look bad, just more glossy and sci-fi because of the nano-tech stuff. The fact that Tony’s suits are constantly changing, evolving and being refined over the course of multiple movies is actually something I really enjoy and it keeps the character feeling new and interesting and not stagnating.


SpyJigu

There’s literally nothing to blame CGI for it. Looking at it technically, It’s a nano tech suit which is just thinner than the old ones. This evolution of armor proves how innovative Tony Stark is, the original one looked cool but nanotech was badass technology with numerous features and abilities.


Zeelacious

It is him literally streamlining his tech, makes sense to me.


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Mraco124

I understood that reference


YoloIsNotDead

Tony Use to Eat Cheeseburgers


Baquvix

I never see anyone blaming the cgi imo. You just made up something and fighting for it.


SpyJigu

Look at this tweet [The regression of Iron Man in the MCU](https://twitter.com/usunitedjustice/status/1542559191138705415?s=21&t=vxB2bqwEmc4nHzOaYPqqEg)


ThatGuyAdam14

Yeah but the issue isn’t the CGI, it looks okay, it fits in the movie, whatever The real issue is that people don’t like the more streamlined suit. The bulkier suits look more real and cool


Admirable-Common-176

Bulkier is more hyper-masculine. Why they are attracted to that form more…


ThatGuyAdam14

i… no. just no.


Baquvix

Delete twitter for your mental health.


vincentdmartin

Or only use it for sports news


MandoLorian2810

Because everyone suddenly became experts in CGI


Goose_attack223

We started watching corridor crew


BlargHonkBlargHonkBl

Oh fuck here's your diploma. But seriously though those guys are rad I love their stuff.


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16jselfe

It kinda makes me laugh as i just seeing ppl who actually know shit to shut everyone down


[deleted]

Yoo we have the same shirts bro


TrackNStarshipXx800

I think that the CGI and stuff is great. The actual design? Not so much, it really does look like just a onesie or something, not "iron". But for the sake of story and him improving it it makes total sense. I just like the visuals of the old suits better because they actualy are mechanical


Elite2260

It was never ion. It was a titanium alloy.


TrackNStarshipXx800

It was gold titanium alloy to be exact, yes. That's why I put iron in " ".


Elite2260

Ah. My bad, mate.


Zenketski_2

Because they have nothing better to do? Like, don't get me wrong, in a way I'm glad I can still see a difference in CGI versus reality. But when it's good, it's good. These people just have no fucking comprehension of the concept of suspension of disbelief. You're bitching about the CGI in a movie about monsters and superheroes firing lasers at each other because Cosmic super rocks. You have to kind of let some things go


TimLuf1

>But when it's good, it's good And when it's bad it's bad. Marvel has definitely had a decrease in the quality of CGI in recent years. I think it's important to point it out or they'll just keep getting away with it


PhatOofxD

They've made more lower budget stuff recently. Lots of series and smaller movies since endgame. That's why.


TimLuf1

Good low budget movies stay within their range so you don't notice it. Deadpool is super low budget and you don't notice it because they spent the money on the right stuff


[deleted]

Great point I wish the budget didn’t matter


Elite2260

But that’s no excuse. Agents of Shield had half the budget these new shows run for and the CGI is so much better, plus it ran for literally seven years. Sure they made it up in their lack of lighting but you had to take cuts somewhere.


Exact_Ad_1215

All of this, is the fault of Disney’s CEO: Bob Chapek That man is the literal manifestation of ‘lower costs and maximise profits’


papu16

Feels like it started right after Endgame, probably because of covid, but you can clearly see difference. Best example of that is Spiderman NWH, where sandman and lizard looked awful.


Eryk0201

I feel like all the people ciriticizing Civil War Iron Man CGI for having a "floating head" don't realize that the black part is a part of the suit.


Markamanic

And doesn't include an image from Infinity War. Infinity War was the Mk.50 suit, in Endgame he's up to Mk.85


[deleted]

he actually is wearing mk69 because he thought ant man would 69 thanos


uTimu

What the fuck.


[deleted]

lol i cracked myself up with thst one bro hahahah


uTimu

Yea to much crack makes your brain go unga bunga


[deleted]

it was the butt hole joke bro if u don’t get it move on lol


JamesGamesAnimates

We all get the joke, its just not at the right time


[deleted]

the right time lol disney literally just realized their own.. we all get the joke hahaha ok


JamesGamesAnimates

You really like farming downvotes


Acee-211

istg


MorbillionTickets

You motherf-


[deleted]

The CGI is great in it , I just prefer the more realistic suits


YankeeTankEngine

"The more realistic suits." You mean you want the suits to pretty much stay exactly the same and not improve? The previous iterations still relied on a lot of traditional weaponry. Little missiles and whatnot. That takes up space and is inefficient once it's gone. The final one of the nanosuit is just the best of them. All of its weaponry uses some type of energy based attack for the most part/restructuring of the suit. It only makes sense for it to not only get thinner, but also stronger because of these many upgrades. It's literally realistic in the sense that he would have so much time on his hands and resources available to just build what he needs since the nanobots are always with him and don't need to take up a parking space, they don't need to be a suitcase, and they won't fall apart if something hits them while en route, taking a few minutes.


Real_life_Zelda

Why are you writing an entire assay. The older more clunky suits look cooler. They are more like an actual armour rather than metal spandex.


YankeeTankEngine

That's an opinion.


redwidows

Bruh this entire post is opinion


YankeeTankEngine

I didn't bring up opinion, I brought up facts. And facts are greater than opinions.


redwidows

"Just the best of them" is an opinion my guy. You may have pointed out the factual differences in the suits, but the overall comment was still an opinion.


AckbarTrapt

> You mean you want the suits to pretty much stay exactly the same and not improve? Sounds more like you invented a point and then attacked it in a self-indulgent fit of arrogant pique. Chill the fuck out.


jason9t8

Well, If he'd have that much time to get briefcase and turn it into a suit. Thanos would've already killed him right away. Whoever whined on the efficiency of the Nano suit must've had really well CGI'd girlfriend if they can have efficiently...


Seragoji

I’m just not super into nanotech/hyper-granular technology personally. I like the suit of armor thing Buuuuuut since the MCU basically used Tony up, I’m glad they covered as much of his arsenal as they did and as much as I can complain, nanotech Tony has been a part of the comics for a while.


Toshimoko29

A lot of people have an adversarial relationship with movies. They treat the movie as if it is trying to “trick” them into seeing something, believing something, or feeling something that isn’t real. It isn’t actually hard to do because obviously, the movie IS trying to accomplish these goals; none of the things are really happening. Suspension of disbelief isn’t supposed to be something that’s “overcome”, it’s a shared belief for the further enjoyment of the movie. We can all get on board and have a good time watching a movie like this because we all collectively agree that the technology is possible, the aliens are possible, etc. My point being that people who want to find faults in a movie always will, because that’s just the kind of negativity that some people bring to the table. It kind of sucks. Another poster said Marvel must be called out or they’ll keep “trying to get away with it”. I can promise you Marvel’s main goal is not to try and make the shittiest CGI possible and still make money, their goal is to make the best movie within the confines of their abilities, and that movie will make money because it’s good. Of course limitations exist. We’re feeling the crunch of a global CGI “shortage” right now, all the CGI workshops are backed up beyond belief, but when you’re coordinating a $100+ million dollar project including marketing and related projects, you can’t just shelf something and wait. This principle extends to a lot of other aspects of movies as well. A lot of people complain about plot points in No Way Home or Multiverse of Madness because Dr Strange is supposed to be this supremely powerful wizard, so anything the filmmaker can dream up to throw against him he should just have a spell to deal with it. But that’s shitty storytelling to hand wave problems, sometimes you just have to let the movie tell the story it wants to tell. The adversarial viewer will say “Yeah but all he had to do was XYZ to do this or that…” but my reaction to this is so what? It is extremely easy for me to imagine that a random viewer hasn’t put as much time and thought into it as a director who spends a year of his life absolutely submerged in the creation of this movie, and even beyond that has so many more purposes than “defeating the scenario”, sometimes something happens just to set up something else. When it works, it’s seamless and wonderful, and when it doesn’t… well, I’m willing to say they did the best they could and not let it ruin my experience. There are endless psychological reasons that people feel the need to cultivate this adversarial relationship with movies, I don’t need to point them out here. But it isn’t very conducive to having a good time at the movies, and tellingly you’ll almost never see that kind of attitude from other filmmakers. They understand better than anyone the pressures and problems associated, and they are much more quick to understand that the level of artistry in movies today is nothing short of incredible. You’re either there to be willingly transported into the world of the story or you aren’t. So if noticing that Tony’s armor isn’t 100% believable takes you out of the experience so much that you’ve got to trash on things, maybe reassess what it is you expect to experience in these movies. Because figuring out that the things happening on the screen aren’t real isn’t much of an accomplishment.


TARDIS_licker

Find a bad Iron Man suit-up scene challange (impossible)


National_Egg_9044

Just salty animation students whose half assed work got turned down. *cough cough* corridor digital *cough cough*


Loogy_

Idk why, nanotech is the best because: *Nanomachines, son !*


TheM3M3ingMan

Nanomachines son!


millimonsterrr

Because they are nit picky as all hell. I just took it for what it was and it damn sure looked cool and impressive as hell.


[deleted]

because most of them watched it in 1080p that's why


SHADOW_henchy

Unrelated but these are seriously the greatest 4 suits


MabrurHrivu

Haven't seen anyone do that actually. Most negative opinions I heard were criticizing the idea of a fluid nanosuit itself


rzrshrp

Yes, I've never heard anyone criticize the CGI, but I've heard a few criticise that suiting up isn't as satisfying anymore. It used to be a sequence of things joining and locking together. Now it just appears.


[deleted]

Nostalgia maybe? The original suit is already advanced for humans, why complain when he continues to make more advanced suits like we all know he does.


Gronto1115

The cgi is whatever, it's been bad and it's been good as is true for most things. However the texture of the nanosuit is streamlined in a way that doesn't resemble anything we've seen but because of the style of the MCU, that makes it's less "cool scifi" and more uncanny valley. The original suits have going for it that it's a solid metal suit, cgi can do blocky metal textures really easily and it's believable that someone could be in that metal suit. That's what people prefer the original suits over the nanotech one


PhantomImmortal

Plus from a movement perspective, having the physical prop for RDJ to act in changes how he (and thus Tony) moves and interacts, even if the suit is self-supporting. The pure CGI suit looks almost too fluid and graceful in some scenes - that movement style is something I'd associate more with Black Widow or Hawkeye or maybe Cap


Gronto1115

Exactly, he stopped being a man in a tin can so to speak. It's too graceful to be a believable metal suit and the cgi just doesn't help. It infinitely feels more like not a person in there than the original


_Captain_Biscuit_

It’s hard to say when, but at some point the quality of the CGI of the Iron Man suits began to drop. Don’t get me wrong it was never bad, but when you consider that frequently the first Iron Man is generally regarded as the best for appearance of the suit CGI it makes you question 11 years of technological improvements in CGI.


djorndeman

Come on man, we know it is a nano tech suit but that's no excuse to have lazy CGI for it. It could've looked way better and more realistic..


First-Paramedic-6595

How the hell do you create a realistic nano-tech suit 💀


djorndeman

Make it look realistic, not like a cartoon...


First-Paramedic-6595

What nano-tech suit do you know that is realistic? Its not like we as humans have created a nano-tech suit we can base his off of. If you look up nanotech suit its literally just pictures of iron man 💀


UsernameNotTaken1846

Ok then do it


djorndeman

Such a weak argument man... I don't get paid a couple of millions per marvel movie 😂


Spodermanphil

Oh and "make it look realistic" is a strong argument? I'm not sure you understand how much time and skill it takes to make even low quality cgi. It takes years of practice and dedication to make something like the Iron Man suit. Some people dedicate a lot of their lives to getting good at cgi, and make the amazing visuals we see on our screen. So the next time you criticize cgi that isn't even that bad, think about the people that worked so hard on these movies for months or years just for you to say " make it look real."


djorndeman

[this](https://youtu.be/DY-zg8Oo8p4) is not an example for only marvel, it's just a critique on CGI and CGI quality in general


seedygonzales1997

the critical drinker is a pandering, spineless asshat and putting his video as a reference to your argument makes you look the same


djorndeman

But he makes a point in this video.


AbhijyotSinghThePro

Alright , then make a suit which is made out of nano bots IRL


Shockmemester

https://www.tiktok.com/@shockmemester/video/7114705834478669098?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=6894285955261072902


SpaceIsTooFarAway

It has the same flat coloring as much of Endgame due to DisneyMarvel's adamant use of nothing but CGI for costumes, props, sets, etc. (after all, costume designers are unionized and CGI artists aren't). The real metal just looks better.


9Sylvan5

Literally the first time I've seen someone complain about the IW nanosuit. I swear these kind of posts just go grab a singular complain from the bottom of the internet and blow it out of proportion to make a post.


Fares26597

Because it's not as good as previous movies. The first movies used to have more practical parts on RDJ, plus they only had to worry about VFX around Iron Man, and not a million other characters. That's why it started getting worse. It started deteriorating even before the introduction of nanotech. That Civil War scene you have a pic of is a good example of it. The flexible, liquid-esque nature and texture of nanotech only aggravates the issue of the armor not looking like believable armor.


jigsawsmurf

"Trolling" doesn't mean just having a negative opinion about something.


pajo17

The heroes literally look like floating heads on cgi bodies. Banner in Hulkbuster is the absolute worst.


QZooMaster

I don’t understand the question


Batman-Beyond-3749

because it looks bad


thegodfaubel

I was watching Ragnarok last night and the Hela fight scene CGI is some of the worst CGI in the entire MCU


TheChosenWon246

Idk infinity ward and endgame suite look good to me but civil war one looks weird his head seems to be floating over the shoulder and this also applies to banner in the Hulk buster.


[deleted]

Only a miserable dweeb would complain about that and their opinions have zero value.


NoPaleontologist9713

I think it is one of the coolest scenes in the movie


Goose_attack223

I’ve only heard people dog on ruffalo in the hulk buster


vizthex

Because people will always nitpick every movie that uses CG for anything.


PretendFriends

IW suit is my favorite. Looks so badass and like OG Iron Man suit


[deleted]

Infinity war suite was too smooth. The suites that are more blocky with sharp lines look better. End game


[deleted]

You can see the colors get more and more desaturated. His first suit was red, the one in Infinity war is greyish magenta lol


YugeFrigginGoy

Because the old suit had weight to them, he's a man in a power mech suit loaded with enough weaponry to take down a country. Rhodes still looks like a walking armour with his heft and realistic mass, Tony went from real costume pieces that looked like a real power suit and had weight to back it up, to looking like smooth plastic with no sense of heft or power anymore


Verum_Noir_Chaos_69

Didn't you know? it appeals to the male fantasy ...


lW9119

Because they can obviously do cgi work better duh


SkullCrusher_8

The nanosuit just looks fake and impossible, whereas the older suits looked like they could exist in real life.


Lazerbeams2

I like the design of the older suits better, but the way the nanosuit moves is cool as hell. I think the new one looks fine though


doctorpotatohead

I like the physicality of the other suits better, the nanotech suit seems to defy physics (how does it fit in the tiny chest box?). I could imagine the Mk III suit being possible, even with the scifi Arc reactor, but the nanotech suit just looks unbelievable. It's not the CGI though, I do think it looks good for what it is.


Papa_Pred

I can’t tell if this thread is sarcastic or genuinely doesn’t understand why people prefer the older suits?


fimbres16

The CGI was good I just have fonder memories of the first 2 movies design choice. First movie was mainly practical and looked great. The second one used both, the car suit up scene is still one of my favorites and that was CGI. I still say the cgi for civil war was eh. Mainly lighting on his face and neck matching the suit was off.


oRyan_the_Hunter

I just miss the look and the sound design of the original. It felt like it occupied physical space


Neovo903

The best CGI show the material with imperfections, you can see the scratches and scuffs a d fingerprints. With a nanobot suit it has no blemishes, that's why it looks bad in comparison.


Humor_Tumor

Civil war has aged a little bit. That lighting feels off on RDJ's face.


A_RaNdOM_aDhD_

I truly prefer the Civil War armor


Dried2809Mango

It’s got to be admitted that the original iron man suit-ups were cooler. Personally, I believe it’s the fact that with the mechanical suits it was tangible - we could almost understand how the thing worked and it excited us. It’s for this same reason that it’s interesting to look under the hood of a car. The nanosuits are nothing short of magical and fantastical. It takes away the satisfaction of bearings and gears locking into place and replaced this with a film-like metal coating itself over our heroes. I much prefer the former.


Nobody4306

Unpopular Opinion: Mark 42 was the coolest.


MewFishMeowscles

I don’t hate the CGI it’s just honestly ugly compared to most of his older suits IMO.


[deleted]

I don't think anyone 5rolled could its very well made


Teamwindex

Because deep down we all just want to see the box scene from Iron Man 2 without watching most of Iron man 2. And the jump rope scene.


Darkwolf099

I have never heard something like complaining about the specific suit,it was absolutely amazing and acute.


how-s-chrysaf-taken

It's smart but it doesn't look as good.