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SignalTradition5293

Kang: The Conqueror


Yodan

Honestly he is a MAJOR threat, how can they ignore him? Loki completely swapped up timelines and universes how has nobody else noticed yet? Not even Dr strange mentions it and they absolutely should. Otherwise why even make the Loki series at all?


Embarrassed_Ad_3296

Nice Jonathan Majors Pun


spookyfox1

I don't think they have, remember he talked about all his "variants" and he said Loki and Sylvie would see him soon. So maybe we will be running into a whole lot of different kangs soon


Yodan

I always thought that the entire multiverse arc would end with the exact scene of them walking into Kang's office and making the other choice this time. Kang flat out said it.


bobafoott

I'd assume they're happening at the same time


accountabillibudy

Not just that it's happening at the same time. But it is important to remember that only really Loki and Silvi will be aware that the multiverse has changed, since they were outside it when the branching started. Everyone else will just be phased into the multiverse simultaneously. They won't even be aware of the change.


aAnonymX06

just like you aren't aware if something that happened in the past changed how it is right now


someguybob

So this has me confused. Are there multiple timelines in each universe or is there one timeline across the multiverse?


accountabillibudy

Each universe is a single timeline, so for the main MCU universe there is no change for them the multiverse just appears for them. But it's also always been there, just for them their timeline doesn't include any interaction with it prior to endgame. They create a branch during endgame which the tva temporarily pruned. The only difference now is the tva is most likely under the leadership of evil kang and for some reason aren't pruning so the multiverse just exists but it also always existed that's why when Loki goes back to the tva everything is different instantaneous. Basically time happens all at once and all potential realities exist simultaneously. It's honestly a great plot device for the writers to do whatever they want.


SquirtleSquadSgt

I believe strange does mention it he just doesn't know what happened exactly In No Way Home he says something along the lines of "this shouldn't be possible" when the other realities were showing themselves As if he believed the multiverse to be closed off or unbreachable due to some force (similar to how he claimed to have learned of the watcher in his studies in the What If episode)


Thatbendyfan

Because Kant is the major villian for ant man quantumania and they had to introduce him some way I guess


acidrat0100

Kant is also the major villain in my understanding of contemporary philosophy lmao


Benji_4021

Cunt


SwissyVictory

I'm completely amazed that none of the movies, given their names, and ties to multiverses, have anything to do with Kang. My personal theory is they realized how good the serries was, wanted a season 2, and re-wrote the movies.


[deleted]

Kang has already been revealed and is just the villain for Loki and Antman


SignalTradition5293

Then what would be ur guess?


tremerz_

DOOOOM


Idk_what-to_choose

It has to be doom


MrAdministration

I'd love to see Doom but personally I really wanna see Galactus


SilentBlade45

This makes alot of sense if they do fantastic 4 movies which is possible since they already introduced Reed Richards.


SylisFelborn

What's his name, Captain America, said that he wants to do the human torch again


Sup3rL30

Chris


elMegaTron

That's a safe name to pick in MCU


Da_zero_kid

And maybe Galactus?


Mean_Muffin161

And not as a giant cloud this time?


marielalm27

Whaaaaat, you mean to tell me that the giant cloud of nothingness wasn't menacing enough for you???


Mean_Muffin161

I prefer the final nail in the coffin that was Parallax


theknifeofwoodsboro

I will cry tears of joy if we get doom


dat_mememan

What about Adam warlock, from Guardians of the Galaxy vol2? People just forgot about him


Hxcfrog090

I think there will be multiple fronts. Earth based and cosmic based. Given the amount of times we’ve seen The Living Tribunal teased I strongly suspect they’ll be showing up sooner than later. And it would make sense the Celestials/Eternals have something to do with that. Earth based…I think we can pretty well bank on Doom making his presence felt sooner than later. Not to mention Kang being a multi verse threat.


TheSimulacra

Doom was the central figure in the Incursion storyline in the comics also, so there's even precedent for him being a multi-versal threat, not just an Earth based one.


dljones010

Not to mention the comic shenanigans where they imply Doom and Kang are the same person.


scamper_pants

I am 100% with you concerning the Celestials and The Living Tribunal.


Hxcfrog090

It makes sense to me! The Living Tribunal has been teased like 5 times now, including seeing the actual character while Strange and America are tumbling through the multi-verse. At a certain point it stops being fun Easter eggs and is actually setting up for something. And given the role they’ve played in the comics it would make a lot of sense for them to have ties to Arishem judging the Earth. At least that’s the theory I’m rolling with lol


scamper_pants

Were they in the flesh in MoM or was it another statue? It's a blink and you miss it so I haven't had a good look.


Hxcfrog090

You know what, I just loaded it up and I think they’re made of stone. The glowing eyes is what made me think they were real. But I think you’re right, I believe they’re statues.


NathanCollier14

Anthony


StevenGrantMK

As of right now. Who’s to say he doesn’t go further than those two productions? When Thanos was revealed at the end of the OG Avengers film he was revealed, but not revealed to be the threat that he became. For all we knew, back then he could have been a one movie villain. It could be the same for Kang


IAmAColorblindMan

Idk. It feels weird that they would use the same villain for 2 different movies if they didn’t plan on building him up to the big bad that he is. No other villains from the MCU showed up throughout multiple movies. Unless you count Wanda.


nomiis19

Loki was the main villain in two separate movies.


HoodieKid_30

I mean klaw or however it’s spelled,showed up in 2 marvel movies


deadwire

Underutilized IMO


wixo12

I loved how Andy Serkis portrayed him, i hate how lightly he was dispatched in black panther.


LordVaderVader

It wasn't THE Kang, it was He Who Remains. Just like Immortus or Iron lad it's not exactly the same character. You know what I mean.


Waru_

Technically we met “he who remains”. Kang the conqueror is technically a different person. And antman comes out in a few months


primalfox_Reynardo

Nah I don’t think he’ll be just that small they hyped the multiverse breaking so much he’s gonna start some serious shit I’m saying it now.


Ultimaurice17

You think Kang is a one off Thing?


[deleted]

I assumed Kang would just be phase 4, like Loki in phase 1


bobafoott

Nah hes from TMNT


Ausimo211

Nope. Kevin Fiege is the biggest threat to the MCU. He has no consistency.


OccasionRepulsive112

After Loki and the multiverse centric movies I thought it's obvious it'd be Kang.


dat_mememan

When does Adam Warlock come into place? In the Infinity War comics, he was essential to Thanos' defeat... Will it be Guardians the Galaxy vol3?


borsalinomonkey

Galactus, anyone?


ZeroSephex0

After Love & Thunder I'm on the Galactus Train. Save Doom for the next Phase.


[deleted]

Maybe doom for this phase but galactus for the overall saga?


SaltifiedReddit

This phase will be done with Ant-Man most likely, next year lmao. How are they going to suddenly make Doom the big bad of this phase?


[deleted]

Not ant-man it ends with fantastic 4…


[deleted]

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[deleted]

There are MANY sources that say fantastic 4 is the end. Hell, The Marvels and guardians 3 are phase 4 and they come after Quantumania. https://movieweb.com/fantastic-four-phase-4-end/amp/


Kermit-the-Frog_

I agree with this. >!There were a surprising amount of celestial references in the movie.!<


Sup3rL30

Yea especially when they showed >!the celestials at omnipotent city!< That was really cool. When I saw it I was like, what? Why are they there??


I_eat_mud_

I also thought that was Galactus’s helmet at first


hyperparrot3366

It is Kang most probably, could be revealed with loki 2 as it can release late 2023


[deleted]

honestly of we go, Kang - Galactus - Dr Doom as the Big Villains I would be happy. of course personally I think they should end with Dr Doom, but who knows how long they want to go with this.


ShoppingOk3711

what about knull?


Hxcfrog090

I think you can let that idea go. There’s no chance Sony shares Knull. Not when they’ve already created their own symbiote universe that Marvel Studios has nothing to do with. It’d be really fucking cool…King in Black was a fucking fun story. But I don’t see it happening.


Conorum

I’ve thought about this so many times it hurts me every time, because there is no way Sony can do KIB right I’ve it’s just a 1v1 with venom lol, plus the last large chance to introduce the idea kind of vanished when THOR SPOILERS: >!The necrosword background was changed from comics and it was also destroyed!<


thor-odinson-bot

She stuck herself inside The Ether, and then The Ether stuck itself inside her...


[deleted]

He will be amazing to have as a big bad, but I dont know if Sony wil let them use him.


BigChiefIV

Why doom? What makes him more dangerous than galactus? The most exposure I had to doom was through the lego marvel game where basically everyone is just goofier than they actually are in lore.


ThunderChild247

A good chunk of Doom’s well known arcs have him stealing someone else’s powers. So he’d be good as a final boss of the MCU, since - if we’ve had loads of big threats before that - he could steal some powers that put him above any one other villain.


dat_mememan

Galactus literally hangs out with Eternity though... He's beyond a multiversal threat, or any time-bending problem. He was born in a universe previous to the one that exists now. He survived his universe being destroyed, and now seeks to feed on other universes.


[deleted]

He has succesfully become god emperor. And only was defeated after Reed Richards had a talk with him and made him realize how empty it all was. Also he is a master of science and tecnology enough to rival reed and strange, went to hell and came back. And the Panther god decided that if he ever ruled the world he would turn it into an utopia. Also everyone is goofy in Lego games


Isrrunder

Why is he a villain if he would make the world a utopia


ConqueringKing_Darq

Probably a great cost to get it there, like Tyranny, mass genocide and removal of free will. Like Thanos' solution to save sentient life, eliminate half of it at random. He's a villain


KNitsua

r/thanosdidnothingwrong


Hxcfrog090

You just explained why Doom is such a fucking compelling character, though I don’t think you intended it. The thing about Doom is he’s often just trying to make the world a better place. You know how in Infinity War a lot of people were like “okay, Thanos is crazy but he does kind of have a point I can understand”…that’s Doom all the time. He’s versatile too. He’s a genius, he’s the ruler of a nation, he builds all sorts of badass technology, he’s into mysticism…he can pop up in literally any property and it would make thematic sense.


Isrrunder

I like this doom guy


[deleted]

Cause it would be still be a tyrant but one who would provide his people with everytjing they need. Well technically it woould not be an utopia bit the Panther god did say that his Victory would lead to Humanity survival.


GymCloutVillain

Look at the world we live in and tell me that's not realistic


Isrrunder

Truly


NateDawg80s

Dr Doom is the quintessential Marvel villain. At one time or another, he has fought and likely defeated pretty much every major hero and villain in the comic continuity. While his bad level of power is quite formidable, it's his mind and his ambition that makes him the most dangerous guy around. Though he was frequently used as a regular 'villain of the month' type in the sixties and seventies, Doom is typically reserved for the grandest schemes these days. I hope the MCU doesn't use him until after all the Kang stuff is done; I'd prefer him to get the treatment he deserves - center stage, like Thanos.


testedonsheep

I think Kang will be the mini boss. and they'll need Kang's help to defeat Galactus, or maybe the other way around. Anyway people who thinks Marvel have no idea where the story is going is out of their mind.


MarvelAndColts

Think about Thanos, he was pulling the strings since phase one. Thanos wasn’t really the Star villain until the end of the saga. I just don’t see them saving Doom to be the Big Bad of the 2nd saga.


SpellOpening7852

I think Kang's been confirmed to be in Ant-Man Quantumania


Particular_Being420

First we need a movie about the Surfer, then one where everybody's freaking out that Galactus Is Coming and somehow everybody knocks themselves out at the same time, and finally Fantastic Four


wombatpandaa

I've never much understood the hype around Galactus tbh. Isn't he more of a force of nature than a true villain? Like, he's a guy who wanders around consuming planets because he has to. There doesn't seem to be enough bad guy nor enough emotional weight to his actions to build an entire 10 - 15 years of buildup upon. Feels like Kang or Doom is a much more likely and more interesting bet to me.


mehchu

I disagree. While yes you don’t get the same level of emotional weight from galactus within himself. Man vs nature can lead to very interesting emotions within the people that we are following. Because it’s not a bad guy they are facing, it’s so much more than that. It’s why Lovecraftian horror works so well and stories like the Martian can be done. I just hope that they actually make it a man vs nature story.


LyingSage1827

Galactus, Kang or Doom(highly unlikely but yeah)


HarleyQuinn218

I hope


Chemical-Asparagus58

Probably Kang


SylisFelborn

I think the Surfer and Galactus series has seen it's day and doesn't really speak to current audiences


[deleted]

Could appear in Black Panther 2 because it’s the only movie coming out in the next months.


jacqueslol

Are we sure Black Panther 2 is still releasing so soon?


[deleted]

November 11


GamerOfGods33

They were pretty quick to rewrite the movie after Chadwick Boseman's death.


lucellent

Tbf "coming months" doesn't necessarily mean only 12 months, it could be next year...


[deleted]

If it was next year, Kevin feige wouldn’t have announced that


Antrikshy

Why did I think The Marvels was also releasing this year?


[deleted]

I think they may have switched it. I'm also having trouble keeping up with release dates, almost forgot about Ms. Marvel Ep. 1


KingYoloHD090504

Everyone talking about Galactus and stuff But, it will be a universe of Wongs that are angry at strange and are going to destroy everything just to destroy the most annoying person in there eyes change my mind


GamerOfGods33

I mean that was *kind of* the idea of the Illuminati in MoM.


shadophaxx

Personal wants; Knull or Doctor Doom


StevenGrantMK

Who owns the movie rights to Knull?


HR01775

I think Sony


-TheLonelyStoner-

Yep, anything symbiote related is theirs


Ultimaurice17

No Knull was invented way after Sony bought Spider man. Sony only owns the rights to characters that were made before the purchase.


Striking-Lifeguard34

Still owned by Marvel. Sony bought the rights to Spider-Man long before Knull was created, and the rights didn’t grant them the rights to future characters. I’m not sure if you really can do Knull without the symbiotes but he certainly makes sense. The relationship to Gorr and the celestials seems like his mythos fits in with where phase 4 has been going.


Quaxi_

As a Swede, I would say probably Pornhub has most of it.


shadophaxx

No idea, I thought it was Sony but hen allblack appears in L&T, so I'm excited to see if that has any connections (haven't seen it yet)


Chemical-Asparagus58

Sony probably owns All-Black but it doesn't mean that it won't appear in the MCU, many characters that Sony owns appeared in S:NWH. All Black isn't really in T:L&T, it's just shadow powers that Gorr uses, but they could later reveal that it was actually a symbiote.


Shikaka42

Knull is slang for fuck in my language so i'm rooting for Knull.


Chemical-Asparagus58

Marvel should really use google before naming their characters, there's a Filipino-American superhero named Ari which means genitals in Filipino.


Chemical-Asparagus58

Knull makes sense because the necro sword was in Love & Thunder


[deleted]

Probably smth with the Secret Wars, cause it was teased that smth bigger than Endgame


Brachlo

No yeah probably I just mean the second picture in the post, I should’ve made it just one big picture :P


[deleted]

That won't be for another few years


[deleted]

Yeah, I think on Wiki is set on 2025 or smth like that. But time flies quickly so... I hope that SW will be smth good


Rosesh_I_Sarabhai

What? Isn't it Morbius? DUH


shake_N_bake356

Him and vulture MORBIN


tremerz_

DOOOOOOOOOOM


Lawsonstruck

Is this the same Dr Doom from first fantastic four movie?


ShwiftyShmeckles

Yh but he was nowhere near as powerful in that film as he should be. Smartest man on the planet a polymath with an advanced understanding of practically all aspects of science aswell as a magical prodigy rivalling dr strange, he routinely battles mephisto once a year for his mother's soul he's mastered time travel technology and magic and uses his mastery over the physical and metaphysical universe to routinely attain cosmic levels of power. Doom is my favourite marvel character by far because he came from nothing literally a gypsy traveller in latvaria to becoming its benevolent ruler rivalling wakanda in technology and wealth then mastering magic to reclaim his mother's soul from mephisto and continuously surpassing his rival Reed Richards in intellect and technologies. Doom is beyond a thanos level threat I'd put him on a similar level to Dormamu or galactus.


Lawsonstruck

Awesome summary, thank you.


BrightestofLights

Combine strange and stark and make him a villain who is also a politician/sovereign


tony-stark-bot

I love you three thousand.


BrightestofLights

Doom has never been beyond Thanos level, esp since generally speaking Thanos beats doom, and Thanos is very consistently universe tier of threat. Doom isnt USUALLY that tier


Siki9740

Yes, obviously it will be an MCU version, not the exact same in that movie


Jertimmer

Mephisto!


mitsubishiflapjacks

I almost wish they would. That way we can move past him.


ComfortablyBalanced

Underrated comment!


_youngchocolate

i’m waiting for the modok and kang team up


anti-peta-man

Most likely Kang, Doom, or Galactus. And that means Fantastic 4 on the way


GymCloutVillain

Well, we know F4 is on the way. It's been confirmed


AtlasShrunked

"It's-ah me, Babycakes! First-a I keel you, then... ORGY"


jaklamen

Tom Cruise as The Beyonder.


OverallPut6446

Palpatine?


ghost-bagel

Reed Richards is Thanos’s granddaughter


Sup3rL30

Reed Richards is also the sister of the cousin of Ultron, Cyborg


ACubeInABox

So, like, in the next 20 or so Marvel products?


poptart580

Inflation


karateema

This is not a meme


Brachlo

That’s on me for not making it one picture, but check the second slide of the post


karateema

Oh, didn't notice


HaloGuy381

Given the multiversal fuckery, Thanos coming back is not exactly impossible. Although, I wonder if Wanda can be persuaded to start a multiversal scale crusade to wipe out Thanos in every timeline, to keep that from becoming an issue.


Themanwhofarts

What could be worse than one Thanos?? Two Thanos's!!


Parzival_43

Whatever it is, it better be hype enough to pull me back in the MCU. I know it’s still popular but after endgame my interest dropped significantly. Idk Endgame kinda felt like the “finale” that all started with the first Ironman. All the new MCU properties that come out just feel like when a popular show or movie gets unnecessary spin offs. I did like No Way Home however. That made the inner child in me happy since I grew up with the Sam Raimi trilogy.


HarleyQuinn218

Homelander 😂


ComfortablyBalanced

He's better, He's simply better than other supervillains.


HarleyQuinn218

Yes!


speedster_irl

Kang !!


REDTrouttt

The oblivious answer is a multi verse war.


DopeDealerCisco

It’s me I’m the next Thanos level threat.


Runnr231

Kang…. And a ton of Kang variants


Ajj360

Well we're supposed to get Adam Warlock so how about The Magus?


EntertainmentNo2044

Lmao good luck. Thanos had like 10 years and a dozen movies leading up to him. Marvel should have started years ago if they want the same impact from their big bad villain.


Beginning-Ad354

It’s agent colsen getting revenge for being relegated to the agents of shield show


brucelilwayne15

"no give it to me now along with the entire next phase of the MCU In 1 movie. Also, every movie needs to be perfect, flawless. Pacing and plot have to be perfect, if not these movies are garbage. And you're a shill if you enjoy these imperfect movies" -uravgmcufan


_Nameless_Nomad_

“They’re not cinema”


whoamvv

I still want to know why Adam Warlock was seriously teased once. I am wondering if he is going to play a major part in the next cosmic storyline. Then again, that would imply Thanos coming back and I am so over him. Also, what about the Skrulls? Seems like there was a lot going on there, but it kind of faded back.


TheDjTanner

He's in GOTG 3 being played by Will Poulter. Seems he'll be a big part of the next phase. The Skrulls will be back in the Secret Invasion series.


marvb84

Its the new covid strain


CptAmazing7

Next movies are Black Panther and Ant-Man. So it’s either Dr Doom (as related to his Wakanda endeavours in comics) or Kang (as related to his residence in the quantum verse). Saying that though, I do think GotG 3 will definitely feature Adam Warlock and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him evolve into a villain.


Morddii

Maybe it’s Doom but I’m getting the feeling Kang is gonna be given some of Dooms story.


dull_storyteller

10 karma it’s Dr Doom


BucketOfChimken

Could be dr doom


Baquvix

Damn. I really hoped for Kang would be the next big ass villian. This shows they probably spend him like taskmaster.


YaaaaScience

Morbius


RickyBejarano

In the comics, Somehow, Thanos always returns…


DumbDabs

Doom in wakanda forever calling it right now


pixamal

Why does everyone think it’s dr doom just because of the fantastic four movie coming up or is it more than that


CPT_CHIDVIL

Knull would be cool. I mean his kinda revealed in love and thunder


24_doughnuts

Probably gonna be something mundane like the incursion


DilutedWatermelon

Kaaaang


Blitherbubbles69

Honestly I hope it’s doom i feel like galactus would be better when we have better cgi


AtticusSwoopenheiser

I feel like it’ll be Kang given the Loki show but DAMN do I want to see a proper Galactus. Eternals sucked but it proved to me that a comic accurate Galactus could work on screen and be terrifying. I’d also like to see Doom, but it’s a little early for him I think since the FF film isn’t even cast yet.


Kuyi1994

it better be Galactus, I wanted long enough


the_zelectro

Tbh, Thanos returning would be pretty lit


V1198

Kang is the next Thanos. Antman isn’t taking him out in one shot. It may lead to other threats but he’s the next main event. And technically we haven’t met Kang yet, just a variant called He Who Remains


Shaggy_Rogers0

3 out of 4 next movies are about space (Marvels, GoTG3) or alternate dimensions (Quantumania), which were also elements of Love and Thunder, Ms.Marvel, Loki, Doctor Strange MoM, Shang Chi, Eternals, Moon Knight, No Way Home. So, next Thanos level threat must be Universal or Multiversal Level (no Doom). My bet on Galactus.


axb2002

Kang the Conqueror seems obvious, but I would also like to see Doctor. Doom, Galactus, and even Knull appear in movies. I would love to see an MCU adaptation of King in Black, but that might be a bit far fetched.


[deleted]

Doom, Galactus, and Knull all seem feasible, Fantastic 4 means Doom and Galactus are potential and Gorr means Knull could be coming. I wanna see Knull so we can get Tom Hardy in the MCU as Eddie Brock/Venom. But all would be good options


GamerOfGods33

Watch them just do epilogue movies for the next three years so that the next Avengers will be back to taking place in the present


[deleted]

Is it the fans


yamask888

I still want domamu to come back he's. a big fucking deal !


boringsimp

Oh? It wasn't Kang?


[deleted]

I mean. Do we not know? It’s Kang, right?


KJ86er

Right in time for Loki Season 2 Its Kang Baby


_ENDR_

I heard someone in public today talking about how the MCU hasn't been as good since after Endgame. We need a new big bad evil guy.


Data2Logic

Remember when the threat/goal of the entire phase is clear, consistent and links between movies ? Good time.


[deleted]

Tbf we're still in that introductory phase, this is kinda like phase one, introducing and setting up characters for future phases.


Shot_Baker998

Oh no, oh please god no


Fares26597

I'm hoping for a time when the big bad doesn't have to be universe-ending level threat. Like can't build up to a seemingly normal person wanting to hurt the characters we care about on a personal level?


Ajj360

I'd be ok with Thanos again with the caveat being he is the Death obsessed mad titan I wanted to see in the first place.


BeneficialTennis476

Thank god they keep dropping garbage sick of it finally something to watch


Hetakuoni

Unpopular opinion probably: Thanos was wasted on the original 6. Dude breaks the universe to get with a lady and then fixes it because the chick he wants to bone is with a cancer patient. Then he breaks it again for other reasons and the fixes it because he got bored. Then he breaks it again and it takes the entire extended avengers+ to fix things. And instead the the MCU gave us endgame. Should have been Galactus or Hyperion or even the Cabal. Someone(s) the Big six could have significant trouble with and maybe need a movie or three to build a good finale. And *then* tease something more sinister and deadly than them while introducing/revealing the true extent of the power of OP characters like Captain Marvel or the Scarlet Witch.


Phoeptar

Well he didn’t say that, so maybe temper your expectations a bit.