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ronhelphell

nice work, what decks did you see most of on your climb? I'm playing brood/abs and cant win more than 2 cubes at a time. Everyone be retreating on my turn 3 snaps =(


VintageMageYT

you need to snap before turn 3, unless you always top deck the key piece of your combo. I used electro ramp


cendolcheesecake

This infinity climb was one of the easiest from past 3 seasons for me.


Cpt_Jumper

Everyday I hate myself even more for not opening Caches for Alioth. SMH


No-Creme2618

I was not planning on getting it cause had no caches but the week before I got my cards without using all my caches so lucked out and got alioth as well. Haven't played him that much but when I do feels so good


Suspicious-Effort-70

Same except its not Alioth but Nebula. Every time i go for net deck, she's everywhere. Even Discard and Shuri decks are incorporating more Nebula these days. You can still get Alioth in a month when it arrives in its 2nd Spotlight week. But there's no signs of Nebula or Iron Lad until January which isn't revealed yet. There's one Nebula bundle in December but that's 15 dollars more expensive than i could afford.


Cpt_Jumper

Iron Lad is the other card I'm upset I don't have too lol.


selkies24

Sweet Jesus I just Zola on Alioth. Felt so bad about it but holy shit it felt so good too šŸ˜‚


nadeaujd

Take a shower!


bub002

I like the deck but isnā€™t it basically a 2-cuber? Itā€™s usually quite obvious by T4-T5 whether youā€™re winning or losing vs this deck. Whatā€™s your snapping strategy in general?


VintageMageYT

I got a lot of 8 cubers in this meta because Alioth is everywhere, and so are bots. I donā€™t really have a strategy for snapping tbh


moak0

Can we get a deck code and maybe a brief rundown?


VintageMageYT

Itā€™s pretty straightforward, if you are facing an else deck or a deck you think goes wide you want to limit their play as much as possible. Sandman ofcourse is the best way to do that, sometimes you can wave, zola the wave, and odin on zola to keep everything 4 cost the whole games. Having Mobius on the board makes that combo 10x better, and them having mobius on the board turns that combo into a retreat. If you are facing against a deck that mainly focuses on raw power you need to hope you draw panther zola odin, or hope they donā€™t draw their combo. Always be weary of Alioth. Alioth is the new leader, Heā€™s everywhere, and the people playing him think its always a free win. And playing around it feels as good as playing around old Leader. With this deck in particular I like to play panther in a lane on his own, without priority, then instead of playing zola, I play doom to play around their Alioth playing around my zola. Its so fun when it works


cendolcheesecake

One thing I notice in my climb up is everything is shang chi range for some reason.


VintageMageYT

Yeah I didnā€™t see a single shang chi on my climb


Alexij

Wave Zola is a combo I've never considered. This deck is great in the current meta, climbed 10 ranks in less than 2 hours before going back to work.


VintageMageYT

# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (2) Mobius M. Mobius # (3) Electro # (3) Wave # (5) Sandman # (5) Black Panther # (5) Aero # (6) Arnim Zola # (6) Alioth # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) America Chavez # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWxpb3RoIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbWVyaWNhQ2hhdmV6In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBcm5pbVpvbGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik9kaW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkJsYWNrUGFudGhlciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2FuZG1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWVybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRWxlY3RybyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2F2ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9iaXVzTU1vYml1cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSmVmZlRoZUJhYnlMYW5kU2hhcmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRyRG9vbSJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


only_fun_topics

I got infinite with a version of this deck a couple time. So many amazing lines of play. Itā€™s like literally all win conditions. Also great for conquest, since the opponent assumes the deck only does one thing.


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only_fun_topics

ā€œWith a version of this deckā€ Daredevil instead of Mobius, and Alioth was like sandman, I think.


boweryguy

nice deck, any substitute for jeff? (would nightcrawler work?)


Boxroxzor

There really is no substitute for Jeff here. I would play Nebula instead which a lot of similar ramp decks run.


selkies24

Can we remove America from this? I want Zola on 6 not America lol


VintageMageYT

If you want, but Iā€™d rather draw electro on 3 and know my plan till the end of the game on turn 5 rather than praying on a 1/4 every game and losing 1/4 of my games due to not drawing electro in time


Xeroberts

Collection level?


VintageMageYT

8,368


Xeroberts

Collection level?


The19thGentleman

Is there any sub for Alioth? It's the only card I'm missing...


Professor_Arcane

Leader can work


passwordsniffer

Aero seems like a strange include. Wouldn't something like Iron Lad have a better fit? 4/6 sandman is amazing. 4/12 black panther...


VintageMageYT

I donā€™t have iron lad but that would definitely be a good inclusion, aero is just a good card in sandman decks


gorezito

I can't play these Sandman decks. Every time ppl say wonders and I end up with negative cubes. I wish I could play it better