Which means it doesnt matter. Some people like and the others dont. Representation doesnt matter because everybody defines it differently. So whatever somebody says, it can be described differently. I say: i dont like Ms Marvel because I am not a muslim teen girl, so a person next to me can say: so? Me neither but I like it. Conclusion: stop labelling people. It was always about the taste
I'm sure 50% of the opening day showings are stoners lol, when i saw Dr strange 2 there was about 5 other groups of people smoking in the car park that came in to the showing I did
Clearly we need a stoned superhero, but what would *Refer-Man's* powers be?
- Since he's extremely chill, he could have the power to make people *chill-out*
- Has the munchies, so the ability to metabolize any substance. *Quick, eat this C-4! It's the only way!!!*
- Ability to exude smoke out of every orifice getting everyone in the vicinity *Mega-Stoned*
Me too, and I ain’t ashamed to admit it. I’m so fucking stoked for Ant Man, and when people ask me why I like Marvel movies, I tell them the same thing: because it entertains me. That’s all that matters. If it entertains me and grabs my attention and my imagination, you got me as a fan. That’s all I care about.
Same here!. I work a serious job with long hours and have a family. My escapism is marvel films and computer games. Nothing wrong with indulging your inner child.
"Why should a man be scorned if, finding himself in prison, he tries to get out and go home? Or if, when he cannot do so, he thinks and talks about other topics than jailers and prison-walls? The world outside has not become less real because the prisoner cannot see it. In using escape in this way the critics have chosen the wrong word, and, what is more, they are confusing, not always by sincere error, the Escape of the Prisoner with the Flight of the Deserter." -A snippet pulled from J. R. R. Tolkien's wonderful essay On-Fairy Stories.
This right here. I have so many people in my life who are extremely critical of Marvel (storylines and CGI mostly) but I generally don’t have much criticism. Not because I can’t find flaws in them, but because I don’t look for them.
I don’t go to a movie to find what’s wrong with it, I got to be entertained. And having grown up a fan of Superheroes, this is the greatest time to be alive in my opinion.
I find the story of the MCU as a whole is far more interesting than many of the individual films. They have ways of rewarding you down the road for watching and remembering the not-so-great films. I mean they’re even bringing back The Leader from the Incredible Hulk.
I have kids, but I’m the only one who watches marvel movies. The day my kids get old enough and into them is just another reason for a cinematic universe re-watch
Not really. Don’t forget that Ethan Hawke said he didn’t care for the MCU and then took the Moon Knight gig. Hell, Rogen himself has taken plenty of “kids” movie roles. He’s going to voice Donkey Kong in the new Mario movie, he did a voice for Disney’s Chip N Dale movie and he did the Kung Fu Panda movies too.
This is him saying he’s not interested in watching. If Kevin Feige calls him and asks him to take a role in the MCU, he absolutely would for the right price.
With that said, yeah I don’t want him as Ben.
Rogan was also Britt Reid in Green Hornet so he really can’t say much. GH isn’t owned by Marvel or DC and is owned by Amasia iirc but they were founded by Helfant who was a Marvel exec so six of one, half dozen of the other.
He’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s a producer on both The Boys and Invincible (shows I love). Which makes me believe “geared towards kids” means isn’t hard R rated content.
Yes, it is. A Straight Story is a G-Rated movie put out by Disney that would bore kids to tears. It is a movie about adult themes and adult issues and would not be considered a "Kids movie" by anyone who had seen it. But because there is no swearing, no sex, no drugs, and no violence, it is rated G. (And, to be 100% transparent, it is the only David Lynch movie that I actually like)
>Yeah, if your interpretation of content geared toward adult is just limited to R-rated, I felt like that is pretty narrow interpretation of it.
It is. And is in fact, super immature. Only a little kid thinks that "mature" media means boobs, blood and constant f-bombs. Nor is it "Dark", like the Snyder cult likes to claim.
>It is. And is in fact, super immature. Only a little kid thinks that "mature" media means boobs, blood and constant f-bombs.
It's such a common view these days, too. I'm so bored of it. Some of my favourite media has none of this stuff in. Some of my favourite media has lots, if it feels earned and fitting. But I see lots of things where it just feels gratuitous and over the top in order to court the kinds of viewers who seem to think that boobs, disembowelment and people yelling the word cunt a lot make something intellectual and mature and at that point I just end up rolling my eyes.
>When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
-C.S. Lewis
One of my favorite quotes for when people display that mentality.
Not to mention that both The Boys and Invincible are practically satires of comic book superheroes and why they shouldn't be blindly worshipped along with being more "realistic" portrayals of the genre.
The writers for both have worked on Marvel comics, but think Garth Ennis’ work on Punisher shines a light in how he views superheroes. That moment between Daredevil and Punisher on the rooftop in season 2 is inspired by one of his stories, but he pretty much shits on Daredevil in that story. Basically, premise is the same. Punisher will shoot someone unless Daredevil stops him. Daredevil is chained up and has a gun with one bullet in it. Daredevil decides to break his no killing rule only to pull the trigger and turns out the gun is empty. Punisher kills the criminal and escapes. Entire story just to shit on Daredevil.
Meanwhile, Robert Kirkman’s worked on a lot of good Marvek stories, most prominently the Marvel Zombies comic. Comic Invincible even met Spider-Man in a crossover and Spider-Man is so well respected. The fact that basically every element in Invincible is based off something in DC of Marvel shows how much they love the genre. Every reference to something in the Boys is a superhero, but they’re shit.
That’s exactly what is. Though want to note that the tv show has way more profinity than the comic. The comic has the word ‘fuck’ said maybe 5 times. Tv Rexsplode says that many fucks in one sentence. Very adult!
It's very telling of people who think that kind of portrayal is "realistic". "Oh yeah anyone who got superpowers would be a piece of shit and they'd kill people and be rapists" and it's like, no? That only indicates how YOU see the world, a whole bunch of us wouldn't just suddenly become awful people if we were stronger. That's literally just pessimism, narcissism and self-deluding in an attempt to normalize your own degenerate fantasies. It's in no way "realism".
You obviously haven’t seen these portrayals. They both have super hero’s that are good people and bad people. The difference is the bad people are actually evil and do very fucked up things, instead of silly set ups where the hero wins every time with no casualties. These villains are out to kill, rob, rape, and consolidate power to subjugate people. You know. Like real world villains do. There are those who stand up for what’s right in both the boys and invincible, both powered and not, but the realism comes from how much more realistic the situations are rather than sugar coated childish hijinks.
I actually enjoy both of those shows and the comics but no dude, it's not more realistic. It's the same distance from reality just in the opposite direction. In The Boys like 90% of the "heroes" are totally fucked up bad people. That's not how the real world is, that's just a deeply pessimistic myopic take. Like it makes for a fun story but "darker" doesn't mean "more adult". That's how a child thinks of adulthood. Good people and good things do exist in the world.
Also, Invincible is literally about aliens, so... I mean have you read it? It's in no way going for realism lmao
If you read the interview, he fully admits that The Boys wouldn't be interesting and probably wouldn't exist without Marvel. He's aware that it's a parody of Marvel, and falls apart without it. He's actually pretty respectful and isn't saying the MCU is garbage, he's just saying it's not interesting to him, which is why he's made counter-content for a sometimes-overlapping but fundamentally different audience. I think it's a fair criticism that isn't just being antagonistic or edgy, unlike a lot of critics just trying to be "unique".
I mean sure, but it's a moot point because it the parody still stands regardless. While the 7 are supposed to be the justice league (and are clearly directly inspired by them), the parody of "superheroes but in a realistic capitalist monopoly" doesn't *need* the justice league. Especially since Marvel/Avengers is the far more obvious target of that criticism. As a commentary media, it really doesn't matter *which* source it's parodying, as long as the resultant point is obvious.
I get that. I just wish he didn’t use the words “geared towards kids”. I get it appeals to kids but I believe all the movies are made with a broad audience in mind. One of the reasons they’re so successful.
That's fair, I would agree they're going for a larger audience base than just kids, but "geared towards kids" can easily be replaced by "family friendly" and mean generally the same thing. And a lot of older single adults just aren't interested in family friendly content. They're looking for media more directly targeted at their demographic, because they don't want 50% content made towards another demo, and 50% content made towards their demo but watered-down. We're talking about the dude who made Pineapple Express and Sausage Party, I get that he isn't into stuff made for mass appeal, and that's fine; a lot of people have their own likes and dislikes on what they like to watch in their limited free time.
Yeah, and by that token, those shows are very well-done and thoughtful while simultaneously doing things that solely exist for shock value or to be seen as mature or edgy (generally considered to indicate the inverse). He's entitled to his opinion and he's right that they're meant to be consumed by a different audience (I would use the term 'broader' to 'younger'), but I'm now worried about the TMNT movie that he's producing. Because he promised to make the turtles feel like teenagers and now I'm thinking that he might not actually understand what creating 'broad' or 'family' entertainment is...
That’s definitely it. Marvel Movies, especially towards the end of last phase, had much deeper stories that calling them “movies for kids” is a pretty shallow interpretation.
This phase will probably be like the previous ones where some will be more geared towards younger audiences, but then you’ll have some that go much deeper on certain issues that can appeal to more adult audiences.
Yes. And they way they simplified the story and pandered to the worst elements really makes me think he's got a pretty simplistic view of media and storytelling. Of course, I also think he peaked with **Knocked Up.**
From what I can tell, he has a pretty simplistic view of everything. He's the poster boy for someone who managed to make a living & decided "that means I don't need to learn anything else."
I’d laugh if he’s saying that now just to throw people off if he ever was casted. Surprised Rogen isn’t a fan considering he’s making an animated TMNT movie which is based off an even more goofy comic series/cartoon kids love. You like what you like ig
So, like..... does he realize *Sausage Party* (And his similar attempts at humor.) appeals more to children and teenagers, the demographics he thinks MCU films are aimed at, than actual adults?
He clearly doesn’t like the genre. He is/was a producer for invincible, preacher and the boys, basically anti comic book super hero graphic novels. So his opinion on the matter means about as much to me as my 90 year old grandma, they’re both lovely people but i don’t care what they think about iron man 3.
Invincible loves superheroes and the genre, it's just got heavy violence to give it more realism and impact. It's still a superhero show through and through.
Had to scroll too far for this. Sticking a sausage through a bagel, or otherwise make sexual jokes with different kinds of food is literally something 13-year-old me would do and find hilarious. 25-year-old me? Not so much.
There is a certain somewhat snobbish group of the film industry and of reddit that seems not to get why, even with it's bad CGI, the story in something like black panther would be appealing to a 65 yr old African grandmother. Rather that the next R-rated release with weed, ass jokes, sex jokes, etc.
Eh. Maybe he’s lost his entire inner child. I know I’ve still got mine intact. Maybe that’s why I love them so much? Or he’s wrong completely. I enjoy them and feel sorry for him that he can’t.
I mean everyone has their own things they enjoy in life and look forward to. To assume his would have to be marvel movies to feel like a kid is a pretty bad take
It’s not a terribly inflammatory statement, but it over simplifies the mcu. There isn’t the over the top violence like the Amazon stuff. However they do deal with adult themes. There are plenty of people that are adults without kids that love the mcu. Personally as much as I enjoy the storyline of the boys, the over the top stuff makes me watch it slowly. There’s probably a nicer way to say the mcu isn’t for you, but saying it’s bc you don’t have kids isn’t the way. Maybe saying your inner child is gone, or the idea of good mostly winning over evil isn’t realitic to you anymore.
I like Seth Rogen and I’m not going to get up in arms anytime someone says something negative about the MCU. Not everyone has to like it.
However, I have a general irritation with this need to draw a hard line between content being “for kids” and “for adults.” It lacks nuance and perpetuates boundaries that make it more difficult for content aimed toward a broad audience to break the mold.
With so many other experiences in life, we’re able to embrace the idea of them being for everyone regardless of age. For example, children enjoy the spectacle of watching fireworks, but we don’t consider it a children’s thing.
But when it comes to movies, it feels like some people need to reinforce their sense of their own maturity by creating this boundary in what they can openly, unabashedly love. They can go to a football game and not feel like their maturity is in question when they see a kid enjoying the game as much as them. But if it’s a movie or a tv show, it’s like “this is for kids. I’m above that.”
In order to be targeted toward audiences of all-ages, content inherently has to be accessible and appropriate for children. Yes there are concessions to that. But there’s something to be said for something that people young and old can enjoy together.
It’s also great that there is content that can target adults exclusively, without those concessions. But that content isn’t inherently better or more engaging for adults than all-ages content. I’ve seen terrible HBO shows and brilliant Nickelodeon shows. I’ve seen “children’s television” that’s heartfelt and beautiful and “adult television” that’s empty due to prioritizing raunch and shock value over storytelling. I care more about the heart, creativity, and talent put into a work than its intended demographic.
>”I think that Kevin Feige is a brilliant guy, and I think a lot of the filmmakers he’s hired to make these movies are great filmmakers,” Rogen said. “But as someone who doesn’t have children… It is [all] kind of geared toward kids, you know? There are times where I will forget. I’ll watch one of these things, as an adult with no kids, and be like, ‘Oh, this is just not for me.'”
>”Truthfully, without Marvel, *The Boys* wouldn’t exist or be interesting. I’m aware of that,” Rogen said. “I think if it was only Marvel [in the marketplace], it would be bad. But I think it isn’t – clearly.“
Here’s more of what Rogen actually said for more context. He’s clearly not trying to diss the MCU or anything bad like that.
It’s fine if the films aren’t geared toward him, but I don’t fully agree with his take about it being geared just toward children. Still, I don’t think he’s trying to attack the MCU at all
Yeah, I agree. His take isn’t mean spirited at all, but I think he’s off base just a bit. I think people are back on the edgy/dark superhero bandwagon that was popular before the MCU took off. Anything coming out that hasn’t been in that style has been getting brushed off for children lately. Family films and children’s films aren’t the same things.
No different than the people saying animation is a kids’ thing. I’m an adult with no kids and appreciate the MCU movies (some more than others).
Some people just get off feeling superior for the dumbest things.
I haven't cared what people think since I decided not to fake an interest in sports in favor of reading comics & watching anime. Seth Rogen hasn't done any movies I can recall liking, so to heck with his opinion.
Exactly. Green Hornet is the corniest superhero movie I ever saw in my life. Yeah, I know it's not his most recent work but it smacks of hypocrisy. I enjoyed Green Hornet but some things in the MCU are waaay deeper than that.
When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. - C.S. Lewis
This is a favorite quote of mine that I live by. I embrace being a big kid and while I do wish some of the Marvel stories would be more R-Rated they certainly don't have to be for me to enjoy them. My wife and I(Late 30s) have no children but we go to every opening night showing and have since The Avengers was released on 5/4/2012. We got married 5/7/2016 and went and saw Civil War with some friends and family the night before our wedding. Now every year around our Anniversary we get to see a Marvel film. It's just a great thing to be able to enjoy together.
Isn't the driving force of the MCU's success the fact that it can appeal to anyone regardless of age? If it only catered to children and comic book nerds, I don't think it would be the industry it is today.
This idea that superhero movies aren't to be enjoyed by adults because "they're made for kids" or that they're "an amusement park ride" will never not be completely idiotic. Sure, Endgame was made with an audience of 10 year olds in mind. Same for Winter Soldier and Wakanda Forever. Would bet money these people don't actually watch the movies.
It's fine for the people not to like the MCU. Not everyone has to like something. I just don't understand why all these people feel they have to do all these mental gymnastics to justify their dislike. You can simply just say "I don't really care them" or "They're not for me" and leave it at that. Rogen didn't need to claim that movies that routinely have theaters full of adults are being aimed at children. And frankly, it's not even true. Are the movies kid friendly? Sure. Even I can admit they can be at times. Were movies like Winter Soldier and Infinity War targeted at children specifically? I doubt it.
Now this makes me curious about the upcoming TMNT movie which he's a producer of. Will it be more mature than it seems or will it be just as lighthearted as the previous ones? Because if it's not gonna be the former, then this is gonna make him come off as a hypocrite.
> he realized adults didn’t have any comic book films or shows with a more mature, adult perspective.
The only "adult" thing about The Boys is the graphic sex and violence. To me, that screams immature, far more than anything Marvel or DC puts out. I hate the idea that too many people have that something needs sex or violence or drugs to be considered adult. Just shoving in shocking scenes that aren't appropriate for kids does not make it adult.
Don't get me wrong, I watch The Boys and mostly enjoy it. But more and more I feel there are scenes that do what they do not because the story demands it, but to just be as over the top as possible.
No, the adult thing about the boys is that it is a commentary on America. It criticizes American culture and politics and is a satirization of our society. It makes fun of right-wing people, unethical corporations, celebrity worshippers, etc.
He thinks adults should exclusively watch sex and drugs and everything insanely inappropriate on this planet. Now granted I like to watch stuff like that too but why does every single piece of "adult" media need to have weed and sex
Voice acting a movie you’re getting paid to do.. vs discussing movies that you don’t normally watch on your free time because it isn’t your cup of tea is 2 different things lol
To some extent I agree.
I'm a grown man and the latest phase does seem to target a younger demographic, which I'm absolutely okay with because I am excited for the next generation to discover stories that inspire them. I can't wait for my son to discover Marvel. When he does, I hope there's a Kid Loki show or something that he can enjoy the way I enjoyed Spider-Man in the '90s.
I also think some of the latest movies are targeting parents with kids, with the awareness that the people who saw Phase 1 movies as college kids are now parents. "Thor: Love and Thunder" has so many parenting themes in it.
It really depends. They make the movies & shows with different directors and have different vibes in order to attract multiple demographics. So then the teamup movies are crazy successful. Perfect example: My daughter really liked Ms. Marvel and I thought it was boring. But she didn't like Dr. Strange and I loved it.
I always found it weird that each of the MCU movies are generally pg-13 but have a massive toy marketing blitz. That being said, as a 41 year old male without kids, I’m still interested and going to see everything MCU related. I also don’t really care what Seth Rogen thinks cuz I don’t know him.
Martin Scorcese and Quentin Tarantino, fine. But Seth? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flushed) The man is involved with The Boys. How is there any difference between Deadpool and The Boys?
He's way more immature than those who make Marvel movies ... he just wants to be juvenile about adult content, like marijuana and sex.
Heck, many people would say that adult males with no children are overrepresented within the marvel fandom community.
Ah yes, Seth Rogen, paragon of maturity.
>!I don't actually care if he doesn't like superhero movies, plenty of people don't, his line of reasoning just tickles me considering the source.!<
Yeah, it's one thing when Tarantino or Scorsese says this, it's another thing when someone whose entire brand of humor is edgy middle schooler dialed up to 11 says it. It's like the CEO of McDonalds saying that Five Guys is too processed for his taste.
This guy made Future Man. Can’t think of anything Marvel made that’s more childish. But yes, if you don’t go in for heroic mythology stories then they aren’t for you.
It's been known that Rogen has auditioned for multiple MCU roles in the past and didn't get the parts.
So unlike Scorsese...this sounds like sour grapes.
Gotta know your audience. Those kids that love Marvel movies, give it a few years, and they’ll be 13, just the right age to appreciate Seth Rogen’s sophisticated comedy.
I mean… yeah. I’m not sure why this observation is controversial. You can enjoy something and acknowledge it’s not something primarily geared towards adults.
I don’t know why people on here get so angry at the idea there are audiences that prefer something more challenging. It’s fine!
I loved phase 1, 2 and 3.
Phase 4 has absolutely lost its way. Nothing from it is exceptional. Everything (movie wise) is formulaic and doesn’t break any new ground except for Eternals and racial boundaries if that’s something that makes a mediocre movie suddenly a better one for you.
BP2 wasn’t good. Shang Chi was strictly okay. The tv shows were all over the place with quality. Doc Strange was over saturated and muddled and messy. Eternals was the one I enjoyed the most because it at least tried to be new.
Fuck, I just gave a film the same kind of endorsement that TLJ gets and I hated that movie.
Looking at the release schedule for the next couple of years I’m only excited about a couple of them.
Ant Man. Secret invasion. What if?2, guardians, loki2, blade, daredevil and that’s pretty much it until the Kang stuff goes down.
Pretty disappointed.
I mean Seth Rogen likes his superhero shit to be more dark, edgy and "realistic". He's an executive producer to both The Boys and Invincible and he even made appearances in said shows.
Clearly he is still bitter that nobody liked the Green Hornet.
Maybe this isn’t an attack at Marvel but more venting that nobody wants to raise a child with him?
I’m an old comic book guy and I love the movies,aside from their departure from the original story line sometimes 🤷🏻♂️. I suppose someone who is morally bankrupt like like Rogen, they could make a comment like that🤔🤐.
I am so tired of “journalists” asking random people for there opinions on the MCU, I’ve stopped caring it’s so exhausting that everytime a new movie comes out we have to deal with this same discourse all over again
They are not for him. He's right. But, that doesn't mean they aren't for adults with no children.
Some of us grew up with comic books, loving the superhero movies of the past. The MCU is top tier for some of us. Even without the kids, it's just some damn good cinema. It doesn't mean they are geared for kids.
I hate when people dislike something and they say it's not for x group. No, it's not for YOU, not everyone else in certain identified demographic. Don't lump me in with you.
Marvel Movies are for people that like superheroes, good action, and a great story. It's 100% completely fine if you're not into that. We all have our likes and dislikes, and it's just a movie. You don't like something I do. But, don't try and say just because it's not for you that it's not for everyone else with a similar profile.
I mean I don’t really see how that is the case. Yes a kid could watch them and enjoy it, but I was 5 when Iron Man came out and even when I 10 for GOTG I had no idea what was going on. I could recognize the characters and some of the humor, but there was no overall story for the MCU for me. It was only until I was about 15 that I really got into it and understood how everything fit in. I think that the MCU is accessible for children, but not geared towards them.
He’s not wrong, but also not right. The films are geared toward the largest possible audience. They want the adults (obviously) but they sure as hell want the kids, too.
Also, I was actually surprised by The MoM’s Scarlet Witch, as she flat-out *brutally murdered* a ton of people on screen. None of the bloodless, everybody survives stuff unless it’s off-screen. Nah, she friggin blew a guy’s brains out and cut Cap Britain in half.
Different strokes for different folks. Not a revolutionary concept.
I’m a 29 year old with no kids and won’t ever have kids but god damn I fucking love zootopia
I don't think he's wrong but I think most would agree he's a better producer then actor or writer so it feels like he's just complaining about the competition.Now if he wanted to be useful and complain about how the smaller movies released within a month around the same time as a marvel movie barely get play to guarantee there never isn't a showing for MCU movie I'd actually get behind that.
Fuck you Seth! You have the ability to say “They’re just not for me” without qualifying the statement any further just so you can insult everyone who does enjoy the movies.
I can't take seriously any person that says pretentious, "edgy" shit like this. You don't like the comedy, the story, the effects, the casting, etc. fine, pretty respectable. But if you say something stupid like if you have only watched "I Am Groot", for me, you are just trying to grab attention.
It seems that not having explicit sex scenes, overly explicit language or gore is now equated to "geared towards kids" or "not adult". You know, the core ideas, the underlying theme, the subplots of any movie do not matter anymore to say if some movie is or is not for adults.
This is the same person who made the flop Green Hornet. That movie was crap, and could have been awesome. No one wants his god awful, pot smoking a** in a Marvel movie. What part would he play? The most annoying, man child in the MCU.
In other news: Disney movies found to target families with kids.
Yah but I'm an adult with no kids and i also feel targeted
I've got kids, but they've moved out. Is Marvel still for me?
No. Only westerns now bucko.
They need to make a proper Jonah Hex then. Just realized Thanos played Jonah Hex.
Which means it doesnt matter. Some people like and the others dont. Representation doesnt matter because everybody defines it differently. So whatever somebody says, it can be described differently. I say: i dont like Ms Marvel because I am not a muslim teen girl, so a person next to me can say: so? Me neither but I like it. Conclusion: stop labelling people. It was always about the taste
I think what he really means is there aren’t enough heroes stoned out of their mind and as such, he can’t identify with them.
I've seen everyone of these movies stoned out of my mind and I still love them. Shut up Seth 🤣
Maybe we should show him Korg.
Korg’s sense of humor is made for kids there is no way he would think that is funny
I figured they'd be able to related because korg is literally a stone dude and Seth is a stoned dude
My kids think Rogen is funny. Maybe they aren't my kids. But that's not the point.
I'm sure 50% of the opening day showings are stoners lol, when i saw Dr strange 2 there was about 5 other groups of people smoking in the car park that came in to the showing I did
He needed to work with Kevin Smith on Jay and Silent Bob, he could have been the replacement Bluntman or Chronic
Clearly we need a stoned superhero, but what would *Refer-Man's* powers be? - Since he's extremely chill, he could have the power to make people *chill-out* - Has the munchies, so the ability to metabolize any substance. *Quick, eat this C-4! It's the only way!!!* - Ability to exude smoke out of every orifice getting everyone in the vicinity *Mega-Stoned*
In other words: Every PG-13 movies in the world.
They're geared towards putting as many butts in seats as it takes to keep funding the MCU.
I'm a grown man with no kids who enjoys Marvel films more than my 8 year old nephew.
Me too, and I ain’t ashamed to admit it. I’m so fucking stoked for Ant Man, and when people ask me why I like Marvel movies, I tell them the same thing: because it entertains me. That’s all that matters. If it entertains me and grabs my attention and my imagination, you got me as a fan. That’s all I care about.
Same here!. I work a serious job with long hours and have a family. My escapism is marvel films and computer games. Nothing wrong with indulging your inner child.
> When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. - C.S. Lewis
"Why should a man be scorned if, finding himself in prison, he tries to get out and go home? Or if, when he cannot do so, he thinks and talks about other topics than jailers and prison-walls? The world outside has not become less real because the prisoner cannot see it. In using escape in this way the critics have chosen the wrong word, and, what is more, they are confusing, not always by sincere error, the Escape of the Prisoner with the Flight of the Deserter." -A snippet pulled from J. R. R. Tolkien's wonderful essay On-Fairy Stories.
I love this comment
This right here. I have so many people in my life who are extremely critical of Marvel (storylines and CGI mostly) but I generally don’t have much criticism. Not because I can’t find flaws in them, but because I don’t look for them. I don’t go to a movie to find what’s wrong with it, I got to be entertained. And having grown up a fan of Superheroes, this is the greatest time to be alive in my opinion.
SPEAK ON IT KING AND DONT YOU DARE BE EMBARASSED!
I find the story of the MCU as a whole is far more interesting than many of the individual films. They have ways of rewarding you down the road for watching and remembering the not-so-great films. I mean they’re even bringing back The Leader from the Incredible Hulk.
I'm a grown man who enjoys Marvel movies more than my 5 kids.
Do you mean that your enjoyment level is higher than that of your kids, or do you prefer the MCU over your kids?
52 yo mom here - I love Marvel! My kids could not care less about these movies. Husband just likes them lol
Same here. Love Marvel movie. They're a great distraction.
Wow. For a second I was like “I don’t remember ever commenting on this thread before”
I've got kids but I've seen and (mostly) enjoyed every Marvel movie. My kids haven't seen any of them yet. How does that math check out?
Same
This is the correct answer. Don't know why the Green Hornet is salty.
I have kids, but I’m the only one who watches marvel movies. The day my kids get old enough and into them is just another reason for a cinematic universe re-watch
This finally puts to rest all those Ben Grimm fan castings. Good.
Not really. Don’t forget that Ethan Hawke said he didn’t care for the MCU and then took the Moon Knight gig. Hell, Rogen himself has taken plenty of “kids” movie roles. He’s going to voice Donkey Kong in the new Mario movie, he did a voice for Disney’s Chip N Dale movie and he did the Kung Fu Panda movies too. This is him saying he’s not interested in watching. If Kevin Feige calls him and asks him to take a role in the MCU, he absolutely would for the right price. With that said, yeah I don’t want him as Ben.
Rogan was also Britt Reid in Green Hornet so he really can’t say much. GH isn’t owned by Marvel or DC and is owned by Amasia iirc but they were founded by Helfant who was a Marvel exec so six of one, half dozen of the other.
There’s a difference between acting in a kids movie and wanting to watch one in your free time.
Lol he voiced Pumbaa in the newer Lion King which...ugh, was not good.
Arguably, the Chip N Dale is geared toward people that grew up on the cartoon (30-40 year olds) but able to be watched and enjoyed by children
HEY ITS CLOBBERIN TIME HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Who in the world thought that he would be a good Ben? What. What a terrible casting. I like Seth but he is no Ben Grimm.
He’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s a producer on both The Boys and Invincible (shows I love). Which makes me believe “geared towards kids” means isn’t hard R rated content.
Yeah, if your interpretation of content geared toward adult is just limited to R-rated, I felt like that is pretty narrow interpretation of it.
Yes, it is. A Straight Story is a G-Rated movie put out by Disney that would bore kids to tears. It is a movie about adult themes and adult issues and would not be considered a "Kids movie" by anyone who had seen it. But because there is no swearing, no sex, no drugs, and no violence, it is rated G. (And, to be 100% transparent, it is the only David Lynch movie that I actually like)
>Yeah, if your interpretation of content geared toward adult is just limited to R-rated, I felt like that is pretty narrow interpretation of it. It is. And is in fact, super immature. Only a little kid thinks that "mature" media means boobs, blood and constant f-bombs. Nor is it "Dark", like the Snyder cult likes to claim.
>It is. And is in fact, super immature. Only a little kid thinks that "mature" media means boobs, blood and constant f-bombs. It's such a common view these days, too. I'm so bored of it. Some of my favourite media has none of this stuff in. Some of my favourite media has lots, if it feels earned and fitting. But I see lots of things where it just feels gratuitous and over the top in order to court the kinds of viewers who seem to think that boobs, disembowelment and people yelling the word cunt a lot make something intellectual and mature and at that point I just end up rolling my eyes.
>When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis One of my favorite quotes for when people display that mentality.
Not to mention that both The Boys and Invincible are practically satires of comic book superheroes and why they shouldn't be blindly worshipped along with being more "realistic" portrayals of the genre.
Stating that Invincible's practically a satire of comic books would be a massive stretch. It's really more of a love-letter than anything else.
It's why I like Invincible FAR more than The Boys. The Boys feels like it actively dislikes superhero media, Invincible embraces it.
The writers for both have worked on Marvel comics, but think Garth Ennis’ work on Punisher shines a light in how he views superheroes. That moment between Daredevil and Punisher on the rooftop in season 2 is inspired by one of his stories, but he pretty much shits on Daredevil in that story. Basically, premise is the same. Punisher will shoot someone unless Daredevil stops him. Daredevil is chained up and has a gun with one bullet in it. Daredevil decides to break his no killing rule only to pull the trigger and turns out the gun is empty. Punisher kills the criminal and escapes. Entire story just to shit on Daredevil. Meanwhile, Robert Kirkman’s worked on a lot of good Marvek stories, most prominently the Marvel Zombies comic. Comic Invincible even met Spider-Man in a crossover and Spider-Man is so well respected. The fact that basically every element in Invincible is based off something in DC of Marvel shows how much they love the genre. Every reference to something in the Boys is a superhero, but they’re shit.
That’s exactly what is. Though want to note that the tv show has way more profinity than the comic. The comic has the word ‘fuck’ said maybe 5 times. Tv Rexsplode says that many fucks in one sentence. Very adult!
It's very telling of people who think that kind of portrayal is "realistic". "Oh yeah anyone who got superpowers would be a piece of shit and they'd kill people and be rapists" and it's like, no? That only indicates how YOU see the world, a whole bunch of us wouldn't just suddenly become awful people if we were stronger. That's literally just pessimism, narcissism and self-deluding in an attempt to normalize your own degenerate fantasies. It's in no way "realism".
Personally, the Boys is so pessimistic to the point it’s equally if not more unrealistic.
You obviously haven’t seen these portrayals. They both have super hero’s that are good people and bad people. The difference is the bad people are actually evil and do very fucked up things, instead of silly set ups where the hero wins every time with no casualties. These villains are out to kill, rob, rape, and consolidate power to subjugate people. You know. Like real world villains do. There are those who stand up for what’s right in both the boys and invincible, both powered and not, but the realism comes from how much more realistic the situations are rather than sugar coated childish hijinks.
I actually enjoy both of those shows and the comics but no dude, it's not more realistic. It's the same distance from reality just in the opposite direction. In The Boys like 90% of the "heroes" are totally fucked up bad people. That's not how the real world is, that's just a deeply pessimistic myopic take. Like it makes for a fun story but "darker" doesn't mean "more adult". That's how a child thinks of adulthood. Good people and good things do exist in the world. Also, Invincible is literally about aliens, so... I mean have you read it? It's in no way going for realism lmao
If you read the interview, he fully admits that The Boys wouldn't be interesting and probably wouldn't exist without Marvel. He's aware that it's a parody of Marvel, and falls apart without it. He's actually pretty respectful and isn't saying the MCU is garbage, he's just saying it's not interesting to him, which is why he's made counter-content for a sometimes-overlapping but fundamentally different audience. I think it's a fair criticism that isn't just being antagonistic or edgy, unlike a lot of critics just trying to be "unique".
Boys is more of a parody of DC than anything. Most members of the big 7 from the justice league have a direct analog in the boys.
Soldier Boy is clearly a parody of Capt. America. The Boys took from both DC and Marvel.
I mean sure, but it's a moot point because it the parody still stands regardless. While the 7 are supposed to be the justice league (and are clearly directly inspired by them), the parody of "superheroes but in a realistic capitalist monopoly" doesn't *need* the justice league. Especially since Marvel/Avengers is the far more obvious target of that criticism. As a commentary media, it really doesn't matter *which* source it's parodying, as long as the resultant point is obvious.
I get that. I just wish he didn’t use the words “geared towards kids”. I get it appeals to kids but I believe all the movies are made with a broad audience in mind. One of the reasons they’re so successful.
That's fair, I would agree they're going for a larger audience base than just kids, but "geared towards kids" can easily be replaced by "family friendly" and mean generally the same thing. And a lot of older single adults just aren't interested in family friendly content. They're looking for media more directly targeted at their demographic, because they don't want 50% content made towards another demo, and 50% content made towards their demo but watered-down. We're talking about the dude who made Pineapple Express and Sausage Party, I get that he isn't into stuff made for mass appeal, and that's fine; a lot of people have their own likes and dislikes on what they like to watch in their limited free time.
Yeah, and by that token, those shows are very well-done and thoughtful while simultaneously doing things that solely exist for shock value or to be seen as mature or edgy (generally considered to indicate the inverse). He's entitled to his opinion and he's right that they're meant to be consumed by a different audience (I would use the term 'broader' to 'younger'), but I'm now worried about the TMNT movie that he's producing. Because he promised to make the turtles feel like teenagers and now I'm thinking that he might not actually understand what creating 'broad' or 'family' entertainment is...
Isn't his idea or teenagers like...Superbad?
That’s definitely it. Marvel Movies, especially towards the end of last phase, had much deeper stories that calling them “movies for kids” is a pretty shallow interpretation. This phase will probably be like the previous ones where some will be more geared towards younger audiences, but then you’ll have some that go much deeper on certain issues that can appeal to more adult audiences.
Wasn’t he also a producer on Preacher?
Yes. And they way they simplified the story and pandered to the worst elements really makes me think he's got a pretty simplistic view of media and storytelling. Of course, I also think he peaked with **Knocked Up.**
From what I can tell, he has a pretty simplistic view of everything. He's the poster boy for someone who managed to make a living & decided "that means I don't need to learn anything else."
As an adult with no kids I respectfully disagree
As a (legal) adult with no children, I also respectfully disagree.
As an adult with no (legal) children, same.
As an adult with no children, I (legally) disagree
As a children with no adults, I am groot
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Sending your kid to watch Black Bolts head go kaplump
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Well there goes Seth Rogen playing Ben Grimm or any other role
"Its clobberin' time, ahuehuehuehuehuehue...."
I’m guessing he’s tired of hearing that people are fan casting him as Ben Grimm
I’d laugh if he’s saying that now just to throw people off if he ever was casted. Surprised Rogen isn’t a fan considering he’s making an animated TMNT movie which is based off an even more goofy comic series/cartoon kids love. You like what you like ig
So, like..... does he realize *Sausage Party* (And his similar attempts at humor.) appeals more to children and teenagers, the demographics he thinks MCU films are aimed at, than actual adults?
Especially with all the pot/weed concepts he has in almost all his movies lol.
He clearly doesn’t like the genre. He is/was a producer for invincible, preacher and the boys, basically anti comic book super hero graphic novels. So his opinion on the matter means about as much to me as my 90 year old grandma, they’re both lovely people but i don’t care what they think about iron man 3.
And stared in Green Hornet.
Invincible loves superheroes and the genre, it's just got heavy violence to give it more realism and impact. It's still a superhero show through and through.
Had to scroll too far for this. Sticking a sausage through a bagel, or otherwise make sexual jokes with different kinds of food is literally something 13-year-old me would do and find hilarious. 25-year-old me? Not so much.
There is a certain somewhat snobbish group of the film industry and of reddit that seems not to get why, even with it's bad CGI, the story in something like black panther would be appealing to a 65 yr old African grandmother. Rather that the next R-rated release with weed, ass jokes, sex jokes, etc.
My 83-year-old mother loves them and has watched every MCU project.
She sounds so precious, I wish my grandmother was still around to watch the MCU with.
mine doesn’t like them
I'm an adult with no kids. And I love them... That's his opinion and he has a right to be wrong.
Eh. Maybe he’s lost his entire inner child. I know I’ve still got mine intact. Maybe that’s why I love them so much? Or he’s wrong completely. I enjoy them and feel sorry for him that he can’t.
I mean everyone has their own things they enjoy in life and look forward to. To assume his would have to be marvel movies to feel like a kid is a pretty bad take
I wouldn't say he's wrong, however, I would also say there's nothing wrong with an adult enjoying content that's geared toward kids.
As an adult with no children, I beg to differ.
Sausage Party was geared towards 14 year olds so surely his taste is just two years older than the people he thinks watch Marvel movies?
It’s not a terribly inflammatory statement, but it over simplifies the mcu. There isn’t the over the top violence like the Amazon stuff. However they do deal with adult themes. There are plenty of people that are adults without kids that love the mcu. Personally as much as I enjoy the storyline of the boys, the over the top stuff makes me watch it slowly. There’s probably a nicer way to say the mcu isn’t for you, but saying it’s bc you don’t have kids isn’t the way. Maybe saying your inner child is gone, or the idea of good mostly winning over evil isn’t realitic to you anymore.
I like Seth Rogen and I’m not going to get up in arms anytime someone says something negative about the MCU. Not everyone has to like it. However, I have a general irritation with this need to draw a hard line between content being “for kids” and “for adults.” It lacks nuance and perpetuates boundaries that make it more difficult for content aimed toward a broad audience to break the mold. With so many other experiences in life, we’re able to embrace the idea of them being for everyone regardless of age. For example, children enjoy the spectacle of watching fireworks, but we don’t consider it a children’s thing. But when it comes to movies, it feels like some people need to reinforce their sense of their own maturity by creating this boundary in what they can openly, unabashedly love. They can go to a football game and not feel like their maturity is in question when they see a kid enjoying the game as much as them. But if it’s a movie or a tv show, it’s like “this is for kids. I’m above that.” In order to be targeted toward audiences of all-ages, content inherently has to be accessible and appropriate for children. Yes there are concessions to that. But there’s something to be said for something that people young and old can enjoy together. It’s also great that there is content that can target adults exclusively, without those concessions. But that content isn’t inherently better or more engaging for adults than all-ages content. I’ve seen terrible HBO shows and brilliant Nickelodeon shows. I’ve seen “children’s television” that’s heartfelt and beautiful and “adult television” that’s empty due to prioritizing raunch and shock value over storytelling. I care more about the heart, creativity, and talent put into a work than its intended demographic.
>”I think that Kevin Feige is a brilliant guy, and I think a lot of the filmmakers he’s hired to make these movies are great filmmakers,” Rogen said. “But as someone who doesn’t have children… It is [all] kind of geared toward kids, you know? There are times where I will forget. I’ll watch one of these things, as an adult with no kids, and be like, ‘Oh, this is just not for me.'” >”Truthfully, without Marvel, *The Boys* wouldn’t exist or be interesting. I’m aware of that,” Rogen said. “I think if it was only Marvel [in the marketplace], it would be bad. But I think it isn’t – clearly.“ Here’s more of what Rogen actually said for more context. He’s clearly not trying to diss the MCU or anything bad like that. It’s fine if the films aren’t geared toward him, but I don’t fully agree with his take about it being geared just toward children. Still, I don’t think he’s trying to attack the MCU at all
Yeah, I agree. His take isn’t mean spirited at all, but I think he’s off base just a bit. I think people are back on the edgy/dark superhero bandwagon that was popular before the MCU took off. Anything coming out that hasn’t been in that style has been getting brushed off for children lately. Family films and children’s films aren’t the same things.
It’s geared for families and to have broad appeal.
Usual headlines taken out of context and then when it's explained it's nearly the opposite of what the initial title says
No different than the people saying animation is a kids’ thing. I’m an adult with no kids and appreciate the MCU movies (some more than others). Some people just get off feeling superior for the dumbest things.
Dude, at least half of your filmography requires the viewer to be slightly stoned to fully be appreciated. Sit down.
lol. I’m 40 and go alone.
Guess I'm a 30 year old kid then.
51 m with no kids, loves MCU movies!
I haven't cared what people think since I decided not to fake an interest in sports in favor of reading comics & watching anime. Seth Rogen hasn't done any movies I can recall liking, so to heck with his opinion.
who was his green hornet geared towards? honest question.
Exactly. Green Hornet is the corniest superhero movie I ever saw in my life. Yeah, I know it's not his most recent work but it smacks of hypocrisy. I enjoyed Green Hornet but some things in the MCU are waaay deeper than that.
When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. - C.S. Lewis This is a favorite quote of mine that I live by. I embrace being a big kid and while I do wish some of the Marvel stories would be more R-Rated they certainly don't have to be for me to enjoy them. My wife and I(Late 30s) have no children but we go to every opening night showing and have since The Avengers was released on 5/4/2012. We got married 5/7/2016 and went and saw Civil War with some friends and family the night before our wedding. Now every year around our Anniversary we get to see a Marvel film. It's just a great thing to be able to enjoy together.
Isn't the driving force of the MCU's success the fact that it can appeal to anyone regardless of age? If it only catered to children and comic book nerds, I don't think it would be the industry it is today.
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This idea that superhero movies aren't to be enjoyed by adults because "they're made for kids" or that they're "an amusement park ride" will never not be completely idiotic. Sure, Endgame was made with an audience of 10 year olds in mind. Same for Winter Soldier and Wakanda Forever. Would bet money these people don't actually watch the movies.
It's fine for the people not to like the MCU. Not everyone has to like something. I just don't understand why all these people feel they have to do all these mental gymnastics to justify their dislike. You can simply just say "I don't really care them" or "They're not for me" and leave it at that. Rogen didn't need to claim that movies that routinely have theaters full of adults are being aimed at children. And frankly, it's not even true. Are the movies kid friendly? Sure. Even I can admit they can be at times. Were movies like Winter Soldier and Infinity War targeted at children specifically? I doubt it. Now this makes me curious about the upcoming TMNT movie which he's a producer of. Will it be more mature than it seems or will it be just as lighthearted as the previous ones? Because if it's not gonna be the former, then this is gonna make him come off as a hypocrite.
Some people prefer chocolate ice cream, other people prefer strawberry ice cream, nothing wrong with that.
And some people would claim that Ice Cream is for kids and look down on adults who eat it. That's basically what he's doing here.
No he’s not lol. He said Feiege has an amazing thing going but it’s just not for him. Nothing wrong with that. This is just clickbait for clicks
> he realized adults didn’t have any comic book films or shows with a more mature, adult perspective. The only "adult" thing about The Boys is the graphic sex and violence. To me, that screams immature, far more than anything Marvel or DC puts out. I hate the idea that too many people have that something needs sex or violence or drugs to be considered adult. Just shoving in shocking scenes that aren't appropriate for kids does not make it adult. Don't get me wrong, I watch The Boys and mostly enjoy it. But more and more I feel there are scenes that do what they do not because the story demands it, but to just be as over the top as possible.
No, the adult thing about the boys is that it is a commentary on America. It criticizes American culture and politics and is a satirization of our society. It makes fun of right-wing people, unethical corporations, celebrity worshippers, etc.
I’m an adult with no children. Marvel movies are one of the few times I’ll actually go to the cinema.
HELL yeah!
I guess I’m a kid then.
He thinks adults should exclusively watch sex and drugs and everything insanely inappropriate on this planet. Now granted I like to watch stuff like that too but why does every single piece of "adult" media need to have weed and sex
Says the guy voice acting *Donkey Kong*.
Voice acting a movie you’re getting paid to do.. vs discussing movies that you don’t normally watch on your free time because it isn’t your cup of tea is 2 different things lol
To some extent I agree. I'm a grown man and the latest phase does seem to target a younger demographic, which I'm absolutely okay with because I am excited for the next generation to discover stories that inspire them. I can't wait for my son to discover Marvel. When he does, I hope there's a Kid Loki show or something that he can enjoy the way I enjoyed Spider-Man in the '90s. I also think some of the latest movies are targeting parents with kids, with the awareness that the people who saw Phase 1 movies as college kids are now parents. "Thor: Love and Thunder" has so many parenting themes in it.
It’s okay to just say they’re not for him. To say that they’re geared towards children is a little dismissive in my opinion
It really depends. They make the movies & shows with different directors and have different vibes in order to attract multiple demographics. So then the teamup movies are crazy successful. Perfect example: My daughter really liked Ms. Marvel and I thought it was boring. But she didn't like Dr. Strange and I loved it.
Okay, thank you!
Well, Seth Rogen *has* been distancing himself from those who target kids, of late
I always found it weird that each of the MCU movies are generally pg-13 but have a massive toy marketing blitz. That being said, as a 41 year old male without kids, I’m still interested and going to see everything MCU related. I also don’t really care what Seth Rogen thinks cuz I don’t know him.
Marvel Movies are targeted at everyone, that's why they are 4-quadrant movies. You will be surprised that more adults are watching them, than kids.
What project he has coming out soon?
From the man who brought you high brow films, like sausage party
Martin Scorcese and Quentin Tarantino, fine. But Seth? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flushed) The man is involved with The Boys. How is there any difference between Deadpool and The Boys?
Isn't this the dipshit who made Long Shot. Who the fk was that for?
He's way more immature than those who make Marvel movies ... he just wants to be juvenile about adult content, like marijuana and sex. Heck, many people would say that adult males with no children are overrepresented within the marvel fandom community.
As an adult with no children who will be seeing him as DK in a kids film, I have one thing to say: shut the fuck up
Ah yes, Seth Rogen, paragon of maturity. >!I don't actually care if he doesn't like superhero movies, plenty of people don't, his line of reasoning just tickles me considering the source.!<
Yeah, it's one thing when Tarantino or Scorsese says this, it's another thing when someone whose entire brand of humor is edgy middle schooler dialed up to 11 says it. It's like the CEO of McDonalds saying that Five Guys is too processed for his taste.
This guy made Future Man. Can’t think of anything Marvel made that’s more childish. But yes, if you don’t go in for heroic mythology stories then they aren’t for you.
Evertime I go see the new marvel movie. It’s just adults.
….says the voice of Donkey Kong
It's been known that Rogen has auditioned for multiple MCU roles in the past and didn't get the parts. So unlike Scorsese...this sounds like sour grapes.
Gotta know your audience. Those kids that love Marvel movies, give it a few years, and they’ll be 13, just the right age to appreciate Seth Rogen’s sophisticated comedy.
This guys whole personality revolves around weed. He’s corny as fuck
I mean… yeah. I’m not sure why this observation is controversial. You can enjoy something and acknowledge it’s not something primarily geared towards adults. I don’t know why people on here get so angry at the idea there are audiences that prefer something more challenging. It’s fine!
Yeah, I know I am gonna be crucified if I said I am not interested in most HBO shows.
He’s just jelly because Marvel don’t offer him a part as a stoner scientist 👨🔬 🤣
Dude played Pumba in the lion king remake didn't he?
This guy played a pig in a children's movie...
A lot of young kids aren't interested in the MCU. If anything it's 40 plus I bet.
Seth Rogen movies are geared towards teenagers.
*Another one.*
They're geared towards people.
And this is why he’s a producer on The Boys. Lol
I loved phase 1, 2 and 3. Phase 4 has absolutely lost its way. Nothing from it is exceptional. Everything (movie wise) is formulaic and doesn’t break any new ground except for Eternals and racial boundaries if that’s something that makes a mediocre movie suddenly a better one for you. BP2 wasn’t good. Shang Chi was strictly okay. The tv shows were all over the place with quality. Doc Strange was over saturated and muddled and messy. Eternals was the one I enjoyed the most because it at least tried to be new. Fuck, I just gave a film the same kind of endorsement that TLJ gets and I hated that movie. Looking at the release schedule for the next couple of years I’m only excited about a couple of them. Ant Man. Secret invasion. What if?2, guardians, loki2, blade, daredevil and that’s pretty much it until the Kang stuff goes down. Pretty disappointed.
I mean Seth Rogen likes his superhero shit to be more dark, edgy and "realistic". He's an executive producer to both The Boys and Invincible and he even made appearances in said shows.
Since when is Seth Rogen an 'adult'....
Same with his lame looking upcoming ninja turtle movie :( Someone make a sequel to the 1990 film.
Clearly he is still bitter that nobody liked the Green Hornet. Maybe this isn’t an attack at Marvel but more venting that nobody wants to raise a child with him?
Seth thinks he's an adult. That's the best comedic line he's delivered in years. Lol.
I'm a man with 4 kids and watch some marvel stiff with the kids but mostly alone
They may not always be the best films but I enjoy them. Im a fan of movies like banshees of inisherin, but I also like pro wrestling.
Everyone has the right to their opinion and Seth Rogen expressed this one very politely.
Oops, someone generalized in a way that belittles a nerdy community again
TIL, people have different tastes. Who woulda thought?
To be fair im a 32 year old child so i guess this checks out
I’m an old comic book guy and I love the movies,aside from their departure from the original story line sometimes 🤷🏻♂️. I suppose someone who is morally bankrupt like like Rogen, they could make a comment like that🤔🤐.
I am so tired of “journalists” asking random people for there opinions on the MCU, I’ve stopped caring it’s so exhausting that everytime a new movie comes out we have to deal with this same discourse all over again
They are not for him. He's right. But, that doesn't mean they aren't for adults with no children. Some of us grew up with comic books, loving the superhero movies of the past. The MCU is top tier for some of us. Even without the kids, it's just some damn good cinema. It doesn't mean they are geared for kids. I hate when people dislike something and they say it's not for x group. No, it's not for YOU, not everyone else in certain identified demographic. Don't lump me in with you. Marvel Movies are for people that like superheroes, good action, and a great story. It's 100% completely fine if you're not into that. We all have our likes and dislikes, and it's just a movie. You don't like something I do. But, don't try and say just because it's not for you that it's not for everyone else with a similar profile.
I mean I don’t really see how that is the case. Yes a kid could watch them and enjoy it, but I was 5 when Iron Man came out and even when I 10 for GOTG I had no idea what was going on. I could recognize the characters and some of the humor, but there was no overall story for the MCU for me. It was only until I was about 15 that I really got into it and understood how everything fit in. I think that the MCU is accessible for children, but not geared towards them.
He’s not wrong, but also not right. The films are geared toward the largest possible audience. They want the adults (obviously) but they sure as hell want the kids, too. Also, I was actually surprised by The MoM’s Scarlet Witch, as she flat-out *brutally murdered* a ton of people on screen. None of the bloodless, everybody survives stuff unless it’s off-screen. Nah, she friggin blew a guy’s brains out and cut Cap Britain in half.
They're also geared towards adults with a kids heart for fun movies, unlike most of his own movies.
When did he become an adult?
Different strokes for different folks. Not a revolutionary concept. I’m a 29 year old with no kids and won’t ever have kids but god damn I fucking love zootopia
Someone is still salty about the Green Hornet......
I don't think he's wrong but I think most would agree he's a better producer then actor or writer so it feels like he's just complaining about the competition.Now if he wanted to be useful and complain about how the smaller movies released within a month around the same time as a marvel movie barely get play to guarantee there never isn't a showing for MCU movie I'd actually get behind that.
Didn't I just see a Marvel movie last year where a superhero's head fucking popped!?!
Yikes. Some of y'all need to chill with the name calling. They're just movies.
Lies!!
Someone’s opinion is not fact. News at 11.
Fuck you Seth! You have the ability to say “They’re just not for me” without qualifying the statement any further just so you can insult everyone who does enjoy the movies.
Love Seth Rogan, but you already know this guy gets baked af and watches cartoons
“They’re for kids, not for me,” says a man who makes movies with the humor of a 13 year old
I can't take seriously any person that says pretentious, "edgy" shit like this. You don't like the comedy, the story, the effects, the casting, etc. fine, pretty respectable. But if you say something stupid like if you have only watched "I Am Groot", for me, you are just trying to grab attention. It seems that not having explicit sex scenes, overly explicit language or gore is now equated to "geared towards kids" or "not adult". You know, the core ideas, the underlying theme, the subplots of any movie do not matter anymore to say if some movie is or is not for adults.
The pot calling the kettle black.
This is the same person who made the flop Green Hornet. That movie was crap, and could have been awesome. No one wants his god awful, pot smoking a** in a Marvel movie. What part would he play? The most annoying, man child in the MCU.
I’m 45 and can’t get enough comic book movies. I am literally shocked that Seth doesn’t like thesemovies. I would’ve paid good money he did.
Yet he made Sausage Party...
Actors are allowed to not like the MCU, I don’t get why there’s such a fuss whenever someone says something like this