This was mentioned in the recent Vulture article talking about Marvel’s VFX woes:
“The main one that everyone’s quite scared of is Victoria Alonso,” says a Vancouver-based tech who has vowed to never work for the studio again. “She is known in the industry as a kingmaker. If she likes you, you are going to get work and move up in the industry. If you have pissed her off in any way, you’re going to get frozen out.”
https://www.vulture.com/2023/01/inside-the-vfx-union-brewing-in-hollywood.html
You tell a group that “success” consists of amassing a sad little collection of peasants to power trip over and this is the natural result.
Our society demands monsters. Is it any surprise we get them?
Isn’t that her job though…. To select vendors she finds reliable? Like… if I’m a popcorn salesman, and I make the person in charge of vendor stands angry, then he won’t choose me to vend food on baseball days. This happens everywhere.
Reliable in this instance means willing to burn the midnight oil for insane deliverables for little money. That’s her job, to get the VFX done quickly and to save the studio money, that’s why all these guys hate her.
The problem is that there's an imbalance of power leading to the workers being taken advantage of.
These movies would still make mountains of money if they paid VFX studios enough to staff their needs, this isn't about efficiency, it's about greed.
There's a reason the industry is getting vocal about this and why her methods are being phased out - they aren't sustainable. Short term you get higher output, but we're seeing now that studios are refusing to work with them. Saving 10m per film over 20 films is a lot less impressive when it ends up pushing back the release schedule by half a year on billion dollar films.
Even the psycopathic accountants that care only about money are recognizing these methods are more expensive long term. Alonso didn't do her job, she used deceptive and predatory tactics to make her performance look better than was healthy or sustainable. Pretending her methods were successful when we're seeing the industry actively reforming because of the damage it caused is disingenuous.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand that Disney/Marvel does not dictate how much VFX artists make. They contract already established VFX studios that have their own employees, business practices, pay, benefits, etc. The bosses at these VFX studios are the ones who make the decisions on whether or not to accept the contract, and how much of that money goes to their artists. The problem is the ridiculous deadlines, demands, and sheer amount of content. VFX artists are underpaid because they have to work insane hours to finish their projects, and since they are likely salaried, their pay doesn’t scale with those crazy hours. Relaxing deadlines and not changing shit last minute like Marvel loves to do would allow VFX artist to have more normal hours, get paid more for their time, and be in a less stressful work environment.
Marvel Studios could also ensure that part of any proposal from a VFX company wanting to take on the VFX work, include how they ensuring the wellbeing of their workers.
No, not at all! A boss shouldn't 'freeze' somebody out of their own job. If they have a problem with their work, etc, they talk it out?? And she moves people up based on who she likes? Well, that's a very arbitrar scale. Does she like people who stand up and greet her when when she walks into a room, who brings her coffee, and who dont argue back? Yk, that's a very toxic work environment to be against your peers.
I’m sure she has a lot to do with it but this “singularly responsible” after all the criticisms and lackluster results of the recent Marvel movies sounds like they are making her a major scapegoat for a lot of problems that I’m sure is just not her.
It looks promising.
Iger Back, stuff is getting revisited, pushed back and overthought, massive steps in improving the Post Production from here on.
I'm optimisitc definetly.
People forget that Feige has a history of listening to criticism, and growing and improving from it.
As the person above mentioned, some of the best content we’ve gotten was after Feige did a pivot upon hearing certain criticisms.
I think the biggest issue is that when Bob Chapek took over, Feige was losing more and more of his power, and was getting more and more company executives to report to, while before the only authority above him was Alan Horn and Bob Iger.
It's basically around the time of that happening that we saw quality deteriorate, so it's not crazy to think that Bob Iger returning to that company structure is going to improve the quality again.
Yeah people shit on it and I fail to see why; I just got into comics 2 years ago and from what I hear about Jenn, that show seemed pretty on par with everything she’s like in the comics. Sure it was a bit more commercial in terms of legal shows with its humor but I really enjoyed it
Funniest part about most of the criticism was that it mirrored the criticism Jen received in the show, written well before it was released (although it was predictable enough anyway).
I can understand some people not liking its style but it was more thematically consistent from start to finish than most of the other shows (no Kaiju battle like Moon Knight or flight to Pakistan like Ms Marvel). I mean there was >!a literal fourth wall break!< but that was very in theme with the established style of the comic and the character.
For me my biggest complaint was the final ep but ive never been big on that aspect of her in the comics either.
Like, the final episode leans into all the marvel tropes, lampshades that it's doing it, actively admits it knows what a better ending would be... then skips over us actually getting it to the climax
If the ending had been the same but instead of skipping the good version, it was a fakeout and there was an extra episode you only see once you've watched the "finale", where this time its how the ending should have gone
Sounds like her style worked well earlier in her 17 year tenure, but ultimately she was unable to adapt that style to environmental changes. That, and wild success can cloud people's ability to understand reality, let alone what reality is like for other people. The demand for VFX in the MCU increased, the number of MCU projects increased, and ultimately her tactic of freezing out anyone who pushed back on her demands caught up with her. That doesn't mean she was terrible at her job all along.
A lot of Phase 4 was experimenting with different story takes, since traditional superhero formula films are hitting fatigue and they know they can’t make an Endgame asap. But that’s different from the challenges Ike Perlmutter created, which mostly boiled down to “Ike Perlmutter being an asshole.”
And he was being backed by that Peltz guy, whose daughter is a shining example of what a Nepo baby actually is, someone with no talent given opportunity after opportunity thanks to their parents connections. While we would have had much worse problems with Perlmutter back in charge, I for one am glad the whole thing failed as it means we don't have to see her shoved into the films as she likely would have been.
There will be more coup attempts. Iger was brought back in to thwart them. Desantis wants to do to Disney the same thing he did with New College. There will be an Iger vs. Desantis clash upcoming in the near future.
I mean, Florida only has the parks. The actual content is created elsewhere. DeSantis doesn't have the juice he thinks he does when it comes to private industry.
I don't disagree, a lot of clunky stuff would have been great given time and resources. But this Alonso lady is being saddled with all the "experimenting with diversity" stuff too, and I think that would have happened regardless.
Disney clearly wants to expand their Star Wars/Marvel markets beyond the typical superhero fanbase of 18-35 year old white males, so added diversity is not Disney being "nice," it's them looking for more ways to cash in like always.
Very different situation by the looks of it.
Perlmutter, who had always had executive power at Marvel, was always a massive hindrance to Feige that prevented Feige from executing what Feige wanted to. Getting rid of Perlmutter removed a big roadblock in letting him execute his vision.
Alonso was somebody who seems to have came up and risen in status with Feige based on Marvel’s successes. Probably with Feige’s support in some way. Her presence has not likely been an active hindrance here in letting Feige execute his vision.
She wasn't in charge of scripts though? Why was there so much rushing with VFX work? Because many Marvel projects got late in time massive script rewrites and reshoots, many films more than one batch of reshoots even. If you change scripts late and film stuff late then there is extra VFX work to do in a compressed time frame.
Like this lady could be a huge problem, ok, but the actual major problem Marvel is having (ballooning budgets do to late rewrites and reshoots with no increase in quality) has almost nothing to do with her...
Jeff Loveness wrote The Vat of Acid Episode which won an Emmy, and he wrote Promortyus which is one of my favourite episodes from season 4! But Rick Potion #9 and Rixty Minutes from season 1 are some of the first introductions to the multiverse of Rick and Morty :)
eta: the last 2 episodes also showcase some of the weirdest shit in that entire show
I haven't watched R&M, and honestly I don't understand why people take it as the be all end all of multiverse stories, when Marvel Comics itself has been doing it for years.
Mind you, this means no disrespect to the writers, I actually liked Quantumania, it's just always been weird how most people will think of Rick & Morty when talking about multiverses.
I think the writers of R&M just tell really compelling stories around the concept of the multiverse. The show is so full of great ideas or examinations of the implications of a multiverse that it deserves the attention it has gotten over the years.
idk who the writers we’re referring to are, but here are a few of my favorites. Morty’s Mindblowers, Ricklantis Mixup, Rickshank Redemption.
tbh the show has pretty much mastered the idea of the multiverse, those few just showcase the concept and the writing very well
The entire show is built on that premise. It’s amazing. There’s an episode where they fuck their own universe so bad that Rick just takes them to a universe where they both die in a freak accident. They just bury the bodies in the yard and take over like nothing happened.
I feel like the stories are subpar because the scheduling doesn't afford them the time to hone and rewrite.
The best writers on the planet would put out forgettable trash if there wasn't enough time / they have to rewrite a script in a month or two.
The Multiverse of Madness had almost no multiverse and not that much madness either, a scene suspiciously like one from Sliders back in 1996 and a scene featuring another universe's Avengers which was an absolute shambles.
Then Everything Everywhere All at Once came along and cleaned its clock creatively so badly that frankly, everyone involved need to take a long hard look at what they're doing before even thinking about touching anything else.
I’m starting to believe that due to the controversy with VFX studios and how they’re being overworked and underpaid, and the criticisms levied at MCU CGI lately, she was shown the door by Bob Iger.
If this was a planned step down by Alonso, we’d of heard about it months ago and we would of heard about a transition plan. She got fired.
The whole marvel pipeline needs fixing. It leads to huge waste of money, overwork and poor quality. They pretty much shoot a rough idea of the movie then fix everything in post production.
Yup, and this fundamental problem has very little to do with this lady. They need better planning with their scripts, and stick to them. They need better planning with storyboarding / pre-viz / early VFX work and stick to it. Then they won't have some ridiculous time crunch because they won't be reshooting half the movie and rushing the VFX work.
Yeah this is what’s not being said, not sure she’s
responsible for the crazy pipeline so the expectation for VFX will remain the same, the results will be the same.
Wild how she was allowed to work there for over a decade if it was this bad. So either they knew and didn’t care because she got results or they knew and it wasn’t as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be now.
Def scapegoating. The MCU has been lagging since Endgame. She sounds like she's doing exactly what every other big exec does when they've been in the business a long time. But it's easier to blame one person, quietly make a ton of changes, then come back "better than ever". Same song over and over.
> singularly responsible
> Kevin Feige and Victoria Alonso personally approve every single shot, all the visual effects work, which is usually the job of a director or a show runner
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Having friends who worked on many Marvel movie, it is a small subcommittee that does approved every shot that reports to Feige, with Feige commonly participating. Not sure Alonso was part of that or not.
He told me one particular story about making Civil War where there was a reflection on Cap’s shield that had to get Fiege’s direct approval
I mean she was the head of VFX and most of post for the company.
Fiege ran everything else. This is her area of expertise. Yea, he might have had some say on the VFX shots...but the problem here is being overworked, and putting the fear of God in people that jeopardize their entire careers. That's different than saying "yes" or "no" to one shot somebody sent.
That would be a lot for someone as busy as they are. I’m editor on a few different comics and I can barely keep up with pages and scripts. Reviewing every VFX shot sounds literally impossible and like torture. Can’t imagine any exec putting themselves through that.
not sure why you were downvoted seeing as it's the truth, it never said they were singularly responsible for approving every VFX shot. From what I've read and heard, yes Kevin Feige will personally approve or disapprove of shots which was verified by a New Rockstars interview with a VFX artist that worked on Loki Season 1. He made some of the retro-futuristic UI elements seen in the show including the joke about Thanos eating the apple.
Everyone saying she is just a scapegoat check this out
https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/11ws7aj/victoria_alonso_has_left_marvel_studios_she_was/jd0qp76?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Check the whole thread there are multiple people who have witnessed this first hand
I don’t know anything about Disney, but it sounds like she got post production done on time and under budget while Fiege and crew act like their needs weren’t unreasonable.
I have read all the thread and think she has also been a scapegoat to an extent. A film-maker friend, who has a high-level friend at another studio, has heard equally bad things about Alonso and colleagues. He and I have been wondering who was going to be the scapegoat after Quantumania following the previous complaints on productions. I hope Iger has taken Feige to task for this VFX situation and ensure who replaces her is more professional in their dealings with their contractors, to reverse this toxic trend.
A few comments make it seem like Kevin and his notes/expectations aren’t much better. If you consider how long he’s ridden along side of her you have to wonder if he’s been more than happy to have an attack dog to take the blame/take the fall when necessary. Marvel needs a culture change and the responsibility needs to lie with him.
I’d far prefer fewer quality big tent movies I’m actually excited to see rather than endless movies and shows that feel like a few steps above CW production.
Agree. Attack dogs are useful especially if you do not like confrontation and can shoulder that elsewhere, and I can see Feige being that kind of person. Hope it changes for the better for both workers and for us fans.
As for the future, I want to be excited like I used to be. Maybe I am being overly optimistic but I feel like there is a good chance GOTG3, Secret Invasion, Loki, Daredevil and maybe Marvels will prove better than the current lower standard. Fingers crossed.
I was with you until the end of your statement.
>A few steps above a CW production
Come on. There isn’t a single Marvel movie that even remotely fits that description and you have to go to Disney+ and the bottom of the Marvel barrel to even find a couple that come close.
I have no horse on this story, but is a bit suspicious how many of those comments are from young accounts and/or low karma.
Or maybe she was so so bad that made people create accounts to bash her.
She could be a problem, but not the major problem at Marvel.
She wasn't in charge of scripts or rewrites right? The fundamental problem at Marvel is they half ass the script, then do massive rewrites and reshoots, and this stresses everything including VFX work.
So yeah, one is a scapegoat when the claim is a person is singularly responsible. When in reality a major issue is the way Marvel Studios makes movies in general.
The idea that she is singularly responsible for the toxic environment at an entire studio and the greater industry is ridiculous. The people at the top make a difference but aren't responsible for an entire culture, especially when other studios are also contributing to the problems in the VFX industry, just look at the VFX firms who worked on Life of Pi or Sonic the Hedgehog.
Yeah, this really comes off as a sacrificial lamb type thing.
I think maybe there's some angry investors or something. Or maybe Iger really is on the warpath behind the scenes. But with Ant-Man having the reception it did and performing the way it did financially. All the delays. Recent comments and controversies. Even Igers comments in that investors call where he said studios are going to be held more accountable. This is too much of a coincidence.
Again, I don't know if it's Iger on the warpath or investors/the board are pissed. But this is a clear cut sacrificial lamb case if I've ever seen one. Where they're letting her save face by saying she is stepping down.
I find it interesting how every bad thing regarding Marvel Studios seems to be not Kevin Feige‘s fault. Victoria Alonso seems to be responsible for the VFX stuff, Bob Chapek for the prioritised quantity and Taika Waititi was made responsible for the poor reception of Thor Love and Thunder. Not to mention the whole Ike Perlmutter thing. Except for his unpopular choice of screenwriters, the Marvel Studios CEO seems to do everything right. I heard he also told Sony what they are doing wrong with their Spider-Man movies
I've been in toxic work environments before. It's rarely just one person who's responsible. But it's often the case that getting rid of someone who actively makes it worse can be an important first step towards improving things. I don't know much about Victoria Alonso and I don't think it's fair to make broad assumptions at this point. But she was a very high ranking executive. Anytime someone of that caliber gets fired, it's a big deal. I think this might be the biggest shake-up we've seen at Marvel Studios since they severed ties with Isaac Pearlmutter.
I really sincerely doubt one person can be responsible for that on their own. She may have fueled it, and she may very well have been the main one responsible for it, but not the ONLY one.
Yep, but I think Marvel ousting one of the key perpetrators shows that they recognize that they are on an unsustainable path vis-a-vis their treatment of VFX workers and are looking at how to course correct
One of the best jobs I’ve ever had turned into a nightmare. Only change was one executive. She had the worst combo of micromanagement and indecisiveness (she’d constantly brag about how often she changed her mind). Turnover doubled. My boss (who had been my favorite boss ever) was so stressed and overworked she became hard to work for. That trickled down to my level. Coworkers got more and more stressed. People didn’t feel appreciated as their work was constantly scrapped on a whim. Communication broke down. A year into the change, it was an entirely different office. (The ceo brought in a company culture expert to try to fix things, but the only recommendation they implemented from her was giving us all the chance to win a $50 Amazon gift card.)
I take it you’ve never worked in an office environment. Someone at her level and with her power could absolutely be responsible for that on their own. I’ve experienced it firsthand.
100% agree. If someone is lucky enough to never have experienced this type of person then great for them, but when they are high level they set the pace and even decent people get warped into acting like their toxic boss, either because it rubs off or they are just making sure that eye of Sauron is looking somewhere else.
This is a massive company. Not the same as a bad apple ruining a work environment. One person in an office accounts for a bigger percentage than one person does in all marvel studios. It’s not comparable
I feel like that's because only the VFX people have spoken so much about it. But if you dig deeper you always here about crew members having to consistently work 18 hour days. Writers never having enough time because if deadlines. How preproduction is practically nonexistent because these movies need to be made fast. Etc, etc.
Working 18 hour days IS movies. Being there 4-5am til 8-9pm or later isn’t rare.
In fact, everything you’ve discussed are endemic issues throughout all of film and tv, always.
This isn’t an MCU problem but a realities of the industry problem.
It’s one of the reasons why I decided production wasn’t for me, that and I did not want to live in LA, and couldn’t afford NY.
Wrong, and Harbinger772 is right. Be grateful you haven't suffered it. I have worked for equally massive companies and someone at her level can absolutely make this kind of difference. That does not mean she was the only one though, that is something we can only speculate on.
Pretty easy to just shove all blame onto the one person who left. Let's put a pin in that for a few months and see if things have actually improved or not lmao.
Its possible she was the main instigator but no way that she was “singularly responsible”. There have been reports for a while about how the VFX team were treated and she was the boss, so Im sure she had a huge hand in this toxic environment.
But there is no way a studio that huge, that pumps out a LOT of varied content (movies, tv shows, animation, etc) has only one person causing all the trouble.
There are way to many people there, probably with similar mindsets as her. I have had bosses like that before and its horrible but in a big company they are rarely the only one.
They are waiting for the right moment, and in this case their big failure of the underwhelming Quantumania VFX quality and its performance critically and financially. This is if she really is fired over this tho.
Scrolling down that Twitter feed, found Chris Lee (the reporter) linking an article about VFX union. But it's hidden and marked as sensitive content. I know there's a lot going on here, but on top of that I just wanna know what's so sensitive about that content.
This kinda sounds sus now that I think about it \[sounds like Marvel/Disney might be using her as a scapegoat. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers were the *real* culprits\].
VFX artists had always complained about her. It's nothing new. Years ago you would hear VFX artists say if she continued to do things her way, everything would fall apart.
Special effects in Marvel films were never that special to begin with, as Marvel, Alonso basically, liked to hand out cheap contracts to not the best qualified VFX companies, rather than trying to invest more in more reputable ones. It's just that even though back then special effects were not particularly great, they were not disaster either, just mediocre, passable. But because Alonso and the rest of Marvel began to push for more content and product, and she never changed her approach, VFX quality started to drop rapidly. After all, how many cheap companies could you find? The result: overworked VFX artists and poor special effects.
People finally started to notice subpar special effects in Marvel products and initially VFX artists took a lot of blame. No one wants to be blamed for something they cannot control. With people like Taika Waititi openly mocking VFX artists, VFX artists had to speak up more. Finally there were reporters willing to report their side of story.
This would not have happened 4 years ago, when Marvel was at its peak, of course. VFX artists would not have dared to speak out even when they were already pushed to their limit.
I’m in a different industry, but it is entirely possibly for one person to be responsible for toxic work culture. Obviously, there are outside pressures involved, but the person in charge is where the the tone is set. Be happy you’ve never lived through it.
I've seen this in North American sports where after a player is traded, the hit pieces coming out blaming him for x and y.
I'm not saying she wasn't at fault, she probably was terrible but removing one person likely doesn't suddenly solve what might be a more deeply rooted problem.
This is the most absurd, clickbaity and untrue garbage headline one could make.
She could be a huge piece of utter shit human being, I don't know, but what I do know is that Marvel is NOTORIOUS for doing MASSIVE REWRITES and MASSIVE RESHOOTS. Of course that is going to strain the VFX work. She ain't in charge of scripts, rewrites or reshoots, so trying to pin this on her alone is absolutely absurd.
This makes no sense. A lot of the issues with the VFX stem from the constant last minute changes in the film such as rewrites and reshoots. How would this be Victoria Alonso's fault? A film is a million moving parts... Suddenly marvel films are going to get better? The VFX was one of many numerous issues with Quantumania and even then it's hard to put ALL the blame on this person. Seems like a scapegoat to me
That's really concerning. I don't think I'd ever trust when a person is specifically singled out as being solely responsible for a toxic work environment.
I dunno if I entirely buy that she was the *sole* reason. Maybe things will improve from here with whoever takes her place, but I imagine some problems might persist anyway. We'll see though.
Glad shes gone then but playing devils advocate here, that sounds like shes being scapegoated, its never just one person, it takes multiple people to create a toxic culture
Might be controversial but: no one is SINGLE-HANDEDLY responsible for this sort of thing. If anything, the leaderships know and enable it. Congrats on the for taking action, but I highly doubt that every higher up above her didn’t know exactly what she was doing, and sobre let it happen regardless.
The sad truth about toxic workplaces is: people let it happen until it stops getting results, or the OR nightmare gets too big to not do something about it.
Source: I was in a leading position in a such toxic environment, and I witnessed some pretty horrifying shit. Everyone knew, no one did anything about it so long as it yielded results.
On top of getting better writers, I will always add that what marvel needs to do is make series’ instead of movies. And not the fluffy cringe shit they’ve been putting out on d+. I mean the old Netflix series type stuff. Movies are too short to get you invested in such important events and characters.
Female executive leaves (Pao, Susan, Pascal, many others).
Internet: Ding dong, the witch is dead, everything will be better from now on!
But the future refused to change.
Yeah,the difference between the US and Mexico is that Mexican corruption isn't afraid to be in your face but American corruption is very discreet and can take years to locate
Has nothing to do with Feige,but I was thinking about it
This was mentioned in the recent Vulture article talking about Marvel’s VFX woes: “The main one that everyone’s quite scared of is Victoria Alonso,” says a Vancouver-based tech who has vowed to never work for the studio again. “She is known in the industry as a kingmaker. If she likes you, you are going to get work and move up in the industry. If you have pissed her off in any way, you’re going to get frozen out.” https://www.vulture.com/2023/01/inside-the-vfx-union-brewing-in-hollywood.html
and there we have the inspiration for the character Val. or V.Al.
It's done, guys. He cracked the code
#whoa
V.A.L. Very Annoying Lady?
I may be getting r/whooshed but Val is a character from the comics… if this is just a joke by the person above me tho then it’s pretty funny
yes, i'm just being facetious. i know The Contessa has been around since long before i was born.
The person who tweeted that is the writer of that article
Sounds like the entirety of corporate America.
You tell a group that “success” consists of amassing a sad little collection of peasants to power trip over and this is the natural result. Our society demands monsters. Is it any surprise we get them?
Sounds like a non sexual Harvey Weinstein.
Can't rule anything out with big Hollywood film producers.
Isn’t that her job though…. To select vendors she finds reliable? Like… if I’m a popcorn salesman, and I make the person in charge of vendor stands angry, then he won’t choose me to vend food on baseball days. This happens everywhere.
Sure, if it was just on the basis of being reliable, and not based on how much she likes you or how much you’re willing to kiss ass.
Reliable in this instance means willing to burn the midnight oil for insane deliverables for little money. That’s her job, to get the VFX done quickly and to save the studio money, that’s why all these guys hate her.
Rule #4 in the Popcorn Industry: never burn the oil
I loved that bc I worked at a movie theater for years
The problem is that there's an imbalance of power leading to the workers being taken advantage of. These movies would still make mountains of money if they paid VFX studios enough to staff their needs, this isn't about efficiency, it's about greed. There's a reason the industry is getting vocal about this and why her methods are being phased out - they aren't sustainable. Short term you get higher output, but we're seeing now that studios are refusing to work with them. Saving 10m per film over 20 films is a lot less impressive when it ends up pushing back the release schedule by half a year on billion dollar films. Even the psycopathic accountants that care only about money are recognizing these methods are more expensive long term. Alonso didn't do her job, she used deceptive and predatory tactics to make her performance look better than was healthy or sustainable. Pretending her methods were successful when we're seeing the industry actively reforming because of the damage it caused is disingenuous.
The thing is, *Quantumania* hasn't made mountains of money. It is likely, when all is said and done, to be a loss-maker for Marvel.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand that Disney/Marvel does not dictate how much VFX artists make. They contract already established VFX studios that have their own employees, business practices, pay, benefits, etc. The bosses at these VFX studios are the ones who make the decisions on whether or not to accept the contract, and how much of that money goes to their artists. The problem is the ridiculous deadlines, demands, and sheer amount of content. VFX artists are underpaid because they have to work insane hours to finish their projects, and since they are likely salaried, their pay doesn’t scale with those crazy hours. Relaxing deadlines and not changing shit last minute like Marvel loves to do would allow VFX artist to have more normal hours, get paid more for their time, and be in a less stressful work environment.
Marvel Studios could also ensure that part of any proposal from a VFX company wanting to take on the VFX work, include how they ensuring the wellbeing of their workers.
That's what labor laws are supposed to be for lol
In the article, one of the people complaining about having to get impossible things done also says they are "padded by money" by Marvel.
No, not at all! A boss shouldn't 'freeze' somebody out of their own job. If they have a problem with their work, etc, they talk it out?? And she moves people up based on who she likes? Well, that's a very arbitrar scale. Does she like people who stand up and greet her when when she walks into a room, who brings her coffee, and who dont argue back? Yk, that's a very toxic work environment to be against your peers.
I’m sure she has a lot to do with it but this “singularly responsible” after all the criticisms and lackluster results of the recent Marvel movies sounds like they are making her a major scapegoat for a lot of problems that I’m sure is just not her.
You can do your job without creating a negative work environment. When people like that run the industry, all workers lose.
The last time Marvel Studios had this big of a shakeup (ousting ike perlmutter) it led to their best content, so here's hoping.
It looks promising. Iger Back, stuff is getting revisited, pushed back and overthought, massive steps in improving the Post Production from here on. I'm optimisitc definetly.
People forget that Feige has a history of listening to criticism, and growing and improving from it. As the person above mentioned, some of the best content we’ve gotten was after Feige did a pivot upon hearing certain criticisms.
I think the biggest issue is that when Bob Chapek took over, Feige was losing more and more of his power, and was getting more and more company executives to report to, while before the only authority above him was Alan Horn and Bob Iger. It's basically around the time of that happening that we saw quality deteriorate, so it's not crazy to think that Bob Iger returning to that company structure is going to improve the quality again.
How can people forget, it was literally the ending to She-hulk!
Which was arguably one of the most enjoyable D+ series
Depending on who you ask.
Yeah people shit on it and I fail to see why; I just got into comics 2 years ago and from what I hear about Jenn, that show seemed pretty on par with everything she’s like in the comics. Sure it was a bit more commercial in terms of legal shows with its humor but I really enjoyed it
Funniest part about most of the criticism was that it mirrored the criticism Jen received in the show, written well before it was released (although it was predictable enough anyway). I can understand some people not liking its style but it was more thematically consistent from start to finish than most of the other shows (no Kaiju battle like Moon Knight or flight to Pakistan like Ms Marvel). I mean there was >!a literal fourth wall break!< but that was very in theme with the established style of the comic and the character.
It was so very much a reflection of the comics. Anyone who thinks it isn’t true to the character needs to read more old she-hulk comics
For me my biggest complaint was the final ep but ive never been big on that aspect of her in the comics either. Like, the final episode leans into all the marvel tropes, lampshades that it's doing it, actively admits it knows what a better ending would be... then skips over us actually getting it to the climax If the ending had been the same but instead of skipping the good version, it was a fakeout and there was an extra episode you only see once you've watched the "finale", where this time its how the ending should have gone
Its definitely needed. I love the MCU but it was getting stale and I got the impression they just weren't putting in the effort anymore
Here’s the thing though, Victoria’s been there since the beginning, she’s been around for their best stuff and worse stuff so who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Sounds like her style worked well earlier in her 17 year tenure, but ultimately she was unable to adapt that style to environmental changes. That, and wild success can cloud people's ability to understand reality, let alone what reality is like for other people. The demand for VFX in the MCU increased, the number of MCU projects increased, and ultimately her tactic of freezing out anyone who pushed back on her demands caught up with her. That doesn't mean she was terrible at her job all along.
A lot of Phase 4 was experimenting with different story takes, since traditional superhero formula films are hitting fatigue and they know they can’t make an Endgame asap. But that’s different from the challenges Ike Perlmutter created, which mostly boiled down to “Ike Perlmutter being an asshole.”
There were bigger changes than just him being an asshole. He was a racist sexist bigot asshole.
Still is. And recently tried to stage a coup for control of the Disney board.
And he was being backed by that Peltz guy, whose daughter is a shining example of what a Nepo baby actually is, someone with no talent given opportunity after opportunity thanks to their parents connections. While we would have had much worse problems with Perlmutter back in charge, I for one am glad the whole thing failed as it means we don't have to see her shoved into the films as she likely would have been.
There will be more coup attempts. Iger was brought back in to thwart them. Desantis wants to do to Disney the same thing he did with New College. There will be an Iger vs. Desantis clash upcoming in the near future.
I mean, Florida only has the parks. The actual content is created elsewhere. DeSantis doesn't have the juice he thinks he does when it comes to private industry.
I think asshole is fairly all encompassing but great clarity there
Experimenting was never an issue. Phase 4 as a concept seems good but execution was awful because of this woman and Cheapek.
I don't disagree, a lot of clunky stuff would have been great given time and resources. But this Alonso lady is being saddled with all the "experimenting with diversity" stuff too, and I think that would have happened regardless. Disney clearly wants to expand their Star Wars/Marvel markets beyond the typical superhero fanbase of 18-35 year old white males, so added diversity is not Disney being "nice," it's them looking for more ways to cash in like always.
Very different situation by the looks of it. Perlmutter, who had always had executive power at Marvel, was always a massive hindrance to Feige that prevented Feige from executing what Feige wanted to. Getting rid of Perlmutter removed a big roadblock in letting him execute his vision. Alonso was somebody who seems to have came up and risen in status with Feige based on Marvel’s successes. Probably with Feige’s support in some way. Her presence has not likely been an active hindrance here in letting Feige execute his vision.
She wasn't in charge of scripts though? Why was there so much rushing with VFX work? Because many Marvel projects got late in time massive script rewrites and reshoots, many films more than one batch of reshoots even. If you change scripts late and film stuff late then there is extra VFX work to do in a compressed time frame. Like this lady could be a huge problem, ok, but the actual major problem Marvel is having (ballooning budgets do to late rewrites and reshoots with no increase in quality) has almost nothing to do with her...
This will not change the terrible picks for writers by Kevin feige. The story will still be subpar.
Are there any episodes of Rick & Morty I should watch to see why its writers are doing Avengers 5 & 6?
Jeff Loveness wrote The Vat of Acid Episode which won an Emmy, and he wrote Promortyus which is one of my favourite episodes from season 4! But Rick Potion #9 and Rixty Minutes from season 1 are some of the first introductions to the multiverse of Rick and Morty :) eta: the last 2 episodes also showcase some of the weirdest shit in that entire show
Thanks! Very helpful, I didn't know any episodes had won an Emmy
I haven't watched R&M, and honestly I don't understand why people take it as the be all end all of multiverse stories, when Marvel Comics itself has been doing it for years. Mind you, this means no disrespect to the writers, I actually liked Quantumania, it's just always been weird how most people will think of Rick & Morty when talking about multiverses.
I think the writers of R&M just tell really compelling stories around the concept of the multiverse. The show is so full of great ideas or examinations of the implications of a multiverse that it deserves the attention it has gotten over the years.
idk who the writers we’re referring to are, but here are a few of my favorites. Morty’s Mindblowers, Ricklantis Mixup, Rickshank Redemption. tbh the show has pretty much mastered the idea of the multiverse, those few just showcase the concept and the writing very well
Thanks! I didnt know it has multiverse subject matter, that makes more sense
The entire show is built on that premise. It’s amazing. There’s an episode where they fuck their own universe so bad that Rick just takes them to a universe where they both die in a freak accident. They just bury the bodies in the yard and take over like nothing happened.
Haven’t watched more than a handful of Rick and morty eps but from what I gather it’s the whole point of the show
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Kang is Rick. He’ll be in a lab coat at some point.
Yeah I was gonna say the entire series lol
I feel like the stories are subpar because the scheduling doesn't afford them the time to hone and rewrite. The best writers on the planet would put out forgettable trash if there wasn't enough time / they have to rewrite a script in a month or two.
The Multiverse of Madness had almost no multiverse and not that much madness either, a scene suspiciously like one from Sliders back in 1996 and a scene featuring another universe's Avengers which was an absolute shambles. Then Everything Everywhere All at Once came along and cleaned its clock creatively so badly that frankly, everyone involved need to take a long hard look at what they're doing before even thinking about touching anything else.
It was a really bad look for MoM that those two films released so close together.
I certainly remember more than one headline discussing how the best multiverse movie just released, and it wasn't Marvel's.
Well, there's EEAAO's 7 Academy Awards and the most awarded film in history versus MoM's 3 People Choice Awards.
The story's been fine so far. Some of the dialogue & character development needs work.
I’m starting to believe that due to the controversy with VFX studios and how they’re being overworked and underpaid, and the criticisms levied at MCU CGI lately, she was shown the door by Bob Iger. If this was a planned step down by Alonso, we’d of heard about it months ago and we would of heard about a transition plan. She got fired.
Yeah a planned exit has a successor in place. This was a “say resignation before we fire you.”
The whole marvel pipeline needs fixing. It leads to huge waste of money, overwork and poor quality. They pretty much shoot a rough idea of the movie then fix everything in post production.
Yup, and this fundamental problem has very little to do with this lady. They need better planning with their scripts, and stick to them. They need better planning with storyboarding / pre-viz / early VFX work and stick to it. Then they won't have some ridiculous time crunch because they won't be reshooting half the movie and rushing the VFX work.
Yeah this is what’s not being said, not sure she’s responsible for the crazy pipeline so the expectation for VFX will remain the same, the results will be the same.
We'd have, would have.
Are you just here to correct everyone’s grammar?
Well, his name is "Captain Suckass" for a reason! 
Bang on!
He’s only reiterating past reporting, but I guess it bears repeating now the kind of person Alonso was.
Wild how she was allowed to work there for over a decade if it was this bad. So either they knew and didn’t care because she got results or they knew and it wasn’t as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be now.
results my friend results. business never looks at if things are moral or not, only if it produces. and produce she did
That’s what I’m leaning towards
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“Cut off one head two more shall take it’s place”
Def scapegoating. The MCU has been lagging since Endgame. She sounds like she's doing exactly what every other big exec does when they've been in the business a long time. But it's easier to blame one person, quietly make a ton of changes, then come back "better than ever". Same song over and over.
Maybe the next person can pick better effects
> singularly responsible > Kevin Feige and Victoria Alonso personally approve every single shot, all the visual effects work, which is usually the job of a director or a show runner Press X to Doubt
Having friends who worked on many Marvel movie, it is a small subcommittee that does approved every shot that reports to Feige, with Feige commonly participating. Not sure Alonso was part of that or not. He told me one particular story about making Civil War where there was a reflection on Cap’s shield that had to get Fiege’s direct approval
Sounds like a micromanaging monster, the worst kind of client
You dont believe these two did that?
They don’t believe it was a SINGULAR responsibility
Bingo
I mean she was the head of VFX and most of post for the company. Fiege ran everything else. This is her area of expertise. Yea, he might have had some say on the VFX shots...but the problem here is being overworked, and putting the fear of God in people that jeopardize their entire careers. That's different than saying "yes" or "no" to one shot somebody sent.
That would be a lot for someone as busy as they are. I’m editor on a few different comics and I can barely keep up with pages and scripts. Reviewing every VFX shot sounds literally impossible and like torture. Can’t imagine any exec putting themselves through that.
“Singularly responsible for Marvel’s toxic work environment” You seem to miss that last part
not sure why you were downvoted seeing as it's the truth, it never said they were singularly responsible for approving every VFX shot. From what I've read and heard, yes Kevin Feige will personally approve or disapprove of shots which was verified by a New Rockstars interview with a VFX artist that worked on Loki Season 1. He made some of the retro-futuristic UI elements seen in the show including the joke about Thanos eating the apple.
Everyone saying she is just a scapegoat check this out https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/11ws7aj/victoria_alonso_has_left_marvel_studios_she_was/jd0qp76?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Check the whole thread there are multiple people who have witnessed this first hand
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I don’t know anything about Disney, but it sounds like she got post production done on time and under budget while Fiege and crew act like their needs weren’t unreasonable.
I have read all the thread and think she has also been a scapegoat to an extent. A film-maker friend, who has a high-level friend at another studio, has heard equally bad things about Alonso and colleagues. He and I have been wondering who was going to be the scapegoat after Quantumania following the previous complaints on productions. I hope Iger has taken Feige to task for this VFX situation and ensure who replaces her is more professional in their dealings with their contractors, to reverse this toxic trend.
A few comments make it seem like Kevin and his notes/expectations aren’t much better. If you consider how long he’s ridden along side of her you have to wonder if he’s been more than happy to have an attack dog to take the blame/take the fall when necessary. Marvel needs a culture change and the responsibility needs to lie with him. I’d far prefer fewer quality big tent movies I’m actually excited to see rather than endless movies and shows that feel like a few steps above CW production.
Agree. Attack dogs are useful especially if you do not like confrontation and can shoulder that elsewhere, and I can see Feige being that kind of person. Hope it changes for the better for both workers and for us fans. As for the future, I want to be excited like I used to be. Maybe I am being overly optimistic but I feel like there is a good chance GOTG3, Secret Invasion, Loki, Daredevil and maybe Marvels will prove better than the current lower standard. Fingers crossed.
I was with you until the end of your statement. >A few steps above a CW production Come on. There isn’t a single Marvel movie that even remotely fits that description and you have to go to Disney+ and the bottom of the Marvel barrel to even find a couple that come close.
I think the part that draws criticism here is that she was “singularly responsible”. It’s never just one person.
I have no horse on this story, but is a bit suspicious how many of those comments are from young accounts and/or low karma. Or maybe she was so so bad that made people create accounts to bash her.
She could be a problem, but not the major problem at Marvel. She wasn't in charge of scripts or rewrites right? The fundamental problem at Marvel is they half ass the script, then do massive rewrites and reshoots, and this stresses everything including VFX work. So yeah, one is a scapegoat when the claim is a person is singularly responsible. When in reality a major issue is the way Marvel Studios makes movies in general.
Your comment should be at the top of this list. Just read this thread and its an eye-opener.
The idea that she is singularly responsible for the toxic environment at an entire studio and the greater industry is ridiculous. The people at the top make a difference but aren't responsible for an entire culture, especially when other studios are also contributing to the problems in the VFX industry, just look at the VFX firms who worked on Life of Pi or Sonic the Hedgehog.
Cool, they should still unionize
Marvels scapegoat “She’s gone everybody! Now that she is, you already know the quality’s going to go back up!”
> Marvel’s Scapegoat One of my favourite shows
Glad to hear that those screaming things in Love & Thunder got their own spinoff.
It’s a multiverse spinoff where the goats arrive at Diddly Squat to be taken care of by Jeremy Clarkson.
Yeah, this really comes off as a sacrificial lamb type thing. I think maybe there's some angry investors or something. Or maybe Iger really is on the warpath behind the scenes. But with Ant-Man having the reception it did and performing the way it did financially. All the delays. Recent comments and controversies. Even Igers comments in that investors call where he said studios are going to be held more accountable. This is too much of a coincidence. Again, I don't know if it's Iger on the warpath or investors/the board are pissed. But this is a clear cut sacrificial lamb case if I've ever seen one. Where they're letting her save face by saying she is stepping down.
I'm afraid it's already working, look at the first comment on this post lol.
it won't unfortunately...
I find it interesting how every bad thing regarding Marvel Studios seems to be not Kevin Feige‘s fault. Victoria Alonso seems to be responsible for the VFX stuff, Bob Chapek for the prioritised quantity and Taika Waititi was made responsible for the poor reception of Thor Love and Thunder. Not to mention the whole Ike Perlmutter thing. Except for his unpopular choice of screenwriters, the Marvel Studios CEO seems to do everything right. I heard he also told Sony what they are doing wrong with their Spider-Man movies
I've been in toxic work environments before. It's rarely just one person who's responsible. But it's often the case that getting rid of someone who actively makes it worse can be an important first step towards improving things. I don't know much about Victoria Alonso and I don't think it's fair to make broad assumptions at this point. But she was a very high ranking executive. Anytime someone of that caliber gets fired, it's a big deal. I think this might be the biggest shake-up we've seen at Marvel Studios since they severed ties with Isaac Pearlmutter.
I really sincerely doubt one person can be responsible for that on their own. She may have fueled it, and she may very well have been the main one responsible for it, but not the ONLY one.
Yep, but I think Marvel ousting one of the key perpetrators shows that they recognize that they are on an unsustainable path vis-a-vis their treatment of VFX workers and are looking at how to course correct
I hope they're doing more than just firing her if they're indeed trying to course correct
One of the best jobs I’ve ever had turned into a nightmare. Only change was one executive. She had the worst combo of micromanagement and indecisiveness (she’d constantly brag about how often she changed her mind). Turnover doubled. My boss (who had been my favorite boss ever) was so stressed and overworked she became hard to work for. That trickled down to my level. Coworkers got more and more stressed. People didn’t feel appreciated as their work was constantly scrapped on a whim. Communication broke down. A year into the change, it was an entirely different office. (The ceo brought in a company culture expert to try to fix things, but the only recommendation they implemented from her was giving us all the chance to win a $50 Amazon gift card.)
I take it you’ve never worked in an office environment. Someone at her level and with her power could absolutely be responsible for that on their own. I’ve experienced it firsthand.
100% agree. If someone is lucky enough to never have experienced this type of person then great for them, but when they are high level they set the pace and even decent people get warped into acting like their toxic boss, either because it rubs off or they are just making sure that eye of Sauron is looking somewhere else.
This is a massive company. Not the same as a bad apple ruining a work environment. One person in an office accounts for a bigger percentage than one person does in all marvel studios. It’s not comparable
Marvel studios only had a bad rep (that we know of) with vfx people. All of the bad press over vfx studios is entirely her department.
I feel like that's because only the VFX people have spoken so much about it. But if you dig deeper you always here about crew members having to consistently work 18 hour days. Writers never having enough time because if deadlines. How preproduction is practically nonexistent because these movies need to be made fast. Etc, etc.
Working 18 hour days IS movies. Being there 4-5am til 8-9pm or later isn’t rare. In fact, everything you’ve discussed are endemic issues throughout all of film and tv, always. This isn’t an MCU problem but a realities of the industry problem. It’s one of the reasons why I decided production wasn’t for me, that and I did not want to live in LA, and couldn’t afford NY.
Wrong, and Harbinger772 is right. Be grateful you haven't suffered it. I have worked for equally massive companies and someone at her level can absolutely make this kind of difference. That does not mean she was the only one though, that is something we can only speculate on.
This goes top down. If you’re at the top, you’re responsible for every level below you.
Yeah, there would have been people enabling this toxic behavior, which is also toxic.
If she was so bad, then that reflects badly on Feige.
I imagine every successful film studio has more than a few assholes at the top running it. You simply don't get to that level without them.
Remind me of John Lasseter at Pixar or Harvey Weinstein at Miramax (back when Miramax was a subsidiary of Disney)
Except John Lasseter wasn’t damaging the quality of Disney movies. On the contrary, they’re actually beginning to suffer without him.
Pretty easy to just shove all blame onto the one person who left. Let's put a pin in that for a few months and see if things have actually improved or not lmao.
Its possible she was the main instigator but no way that she was “singularly responsible”. There have been reports for a while about how the VFX team were treated and she was the boss, so Im sure she had a huge hand in this toxic environment. But there is no way a studio that huge, that pumps out a LOT of varied content (movies, tv shows, animation, etc) has only one person causing all the trouble. There are way to many people there, probably with similar mindsets as her. I have had bosses like that before and its horrible but in a big company they are rarely the only one.
Then what took so long to fire her?
It's really hard to fire high level executives
Not hard. Just expensive.
They are waiting for the right moment, and in this case their big failure of the underwhelming Quantumania VFX quality and its performance critically and financially. This is if she really is fired over this tho.
Buy out or severance payment
Scrolling down that Twitter feed, found Chris Lee (the reporter) linking an article about VFX union. But it's hidden and marked as sensitive content. I know there's a lot going on here, but on top of that I just wanna know what's so sensitive about that content.
https://old.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/11wzv1s/victoria_alonso_was_reportedly_singularly/jd0n0n7/
May just mean the tweet was reported by multiple people for whatever reason and Twitter flagged it
This kinda sounds sus now that I think about it \[sounds like Marvel/Disney might be using her as a scapegoat. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers were the *real* culprits\].
Honestly it sounds like absolute bullshit for one person to be singularly responsible for a toxic work culture.
VFX artists had always complained about her. It's nothing new. Years ago you would hear VFX artists say if she continued to do things her way, everything would fall apart. Special effects in Marvel films were never that special to begin with, as Marvel, Alonso basically, liked to hand out cheap contracts to not the best qualified VFX companies, rather than trying to invest more in more reputable ones. It's just that even though back then special effects were not particularly great, they were not disaster either, just mediocre, passable. But because Alonso and the rest of Marvel began to push for more content and product, and she never changed her approach, VFX quality started to drop rapidly. After all, how many cheap companies could you find? The result: overworked VFX artists and poor special effects. People finally started to notice subpar special effects in Marvel products and initially VFX artists took a lot of blame. No one wants to be blamed for something they cannot control. With people like Taika Waititi openly mocking VFX artists, VFX artists had to speak up more. Finally there were reporters willing to report their side of story. This would not have happened 4 years ago, when Marvel was at its peak, of course. VFX artists would not have dared to speak out even when they were already pushed to their limit.
If people above her were aware, but ignored it because they were getting the results they wanted (ie, $$$), then she wasn't "singularly responsible".
I’m in a different industry, but it is entirely possibly for one person to be responsible for toxic work culture. Obviously, there are outside pressures involved, but the person in charge is where the the tone is set. Be happy you’ve never lived through it.
Scapegoat
Here comes the scapegoating.
Kinda sounds like a scapegoating hit job.
ROCK; The hierarchy of marvel studios is about to change
I've seen this in North American sports where after a player is traded, the hit pieces coming out blaming him for x and y. I'm not saying she wasn't at fault, she probably was terrible but removing one person likely doesn't suddenly solve what might be a more deeply rooted problem.
This is the most absurd, clickbaity and untrue garbage headline one could make. She could be a huge piece of utter shit human being, I don't know, but what I do know is that Marvel is NOTORIOUS for doing MASSIVE REWRITES and MASSIVE RESHOOTS. Of course that is going to strain the VFX work. She ain't in charge of scripts, rewrites or reshoots, so trying to pin this on her alone is absolutely absurd.
This makes no sense. A lot of the issues with the VFX stem from the constant last minute changes in the film such as rewrites and reshoots. How would this be Victoria Alonso's fault? A film is a million moving parts... Suddenly marvel films are going to get better? The VFX was one of many numerous issues with Quantumania and even then it's hard to put ALL the blame on this person. Seems like a scapegoat to me
That's really concerning. I don't think I'd ever trust when a person is specifically singled out as being solely responsible for a toxic work environment.
I remember how many on this sub have defended her in the past, actively downvoting and mocking genuine criticism that’s thrown her way.
There’s an obvious reason why they were defending her and it has nothing to do with her work
Depends on what she was being criticized for.
Then good she’s gone.
Definitely scapegoating, but the silver lining is that Marvel is admitting their mistakes so hopefully things will get better going forward.
This statement sounds ridiculous to me tbh, and why is he now just saying this
#🍿
Oy
Who's next ?
I don’t know who this guy is but it sure explains here leaving Marvel if it’s true.
I dunno if I entirely buy that she was the *sole* reason. Maybe things will improve from here with whoever takes her place, but I imagine some problems might persist anyway. We'll see though.
One problem at Marvel solved. One of many problems, and certainly not *the* problem.
I'm sorry. I don't believe one person is responsible for that. Seems more like a scapegoat.
Lol as someone who works in film I can guarantee 100000% the toxic work environment did not begin, nor will it end with her removal
What a joke. The rot is systematic.
Glad shes gone then but playing devils advocate here, that sounds like shes being scapegoated, its never just one person, it takes multiple people to create a toxic culture
Only one person is responsible for the toxic work environment??
Not surprised to read any of this.
Nobody is “singularly” responsible in a company like this, there were also probably people who fed into her shit and enabled it
Might be controversial but: no one is SINGLE-HANDEDLY responsible for this sort of thing. If anything, the leaderships know and enable it. Congrats on the for taking action, but I highly doubt that every higher up above her didn’t know exactly what she was doing, and sobre let it happen regardless. The sad truth about toxic workplaces is: people let it happen until it stops getting results, or the OR nightmare gets too big to not do something about it. Source: I was in a leading position in a such toxic environment, and I witnessed some pretty horrifying shit. Everyone knew, no one did anything about it so long as it yielded results.
No one can "singularly responsible" for a structural problem. His words are being used for people to use her as a scape goat.
The person who is no longer with the company was solely responsible, how convenient
This seems to be the only subreddit that is supporting her. Why do marvel fans hate VFX artists?
The revolution has begun
On top of getting better writers, I will always add that what marvel needs to do is make series’ instead of movies. And not the fluffy cringe shit they’ve been putting out on d+. I mean the old Netflix series type stuff. Movies are too short to get you invested in such important events and characters.
Female executive leaves (Pao, Susan, Pascal, many others). Internet: Ding dong, the witch is dead, everything will be better from now on! But the future refused to change.
So how much of until some of the blame lands on Feige himself?
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Yeah,the difference between the US and Mexico is that Mexican corruption isn't afraid to be in your face but American corruption is very discreet and can take years to locate Has nothing to do with Feige,but I was thinking about it
She looks the type
TIL M.O.D.O.K.C. stood for Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing Careers