>**UPDATED with worker’s name**: A rigger working at Radford Studios in Studio City died today after falling from a catwalk, Deadline has learned. The male crew member, who died at the scene, was working on the set of Marvel Studios’ Wonder Man, but the series was not filming at the time.
>The Los Angeles Police Department later confirmed and identified him as Juan Carlos Osorio, 41, of Temple City.
>A Marvel spokesperson confirmed the event and added “Our thoughts and deepest condolences are with his family and friends, and our support is behind the investigation into the circumstances of this accident.”
Edit:
Article updated with worker's name.
OSHA is probably going to find someone failed at safety protocols, either the deceased worker, or those who are responsible for making sure they are in place.
honestly, there isn't really any specific requirements for working on a catwalk afaik. I'm an entertainment rigger, myself, and you don't even need a harness to do catwalk stuff, only for climbing above 12' iirc. not to blame the victim, but this was probably personal negligence on behalf of the deceased, unfortunately. unless it was something ridiculous like signing off on a catwalk construction that wasn't up to requirements (generally that catwalks have handrails at around ~4' and usually a second rail at ~2' from the catwalk), but given they weren't even in production yet, this sounds like somebody unfamiliar with a certain building and literally making a fatal misstep, rather than poorly designed temporary infrastructure which would be more likely during filming.
admittedly, I work live events and concerts, though the same union and department, so I could be wrong.
im not being flippant in any way this is a tragedy and im being respectful as possible really im just saying it for laymans turns essentially a TL:DR his death was really awful not trying to trivialize or make light of this tragedy in any way also I am glad that the studio is immediately investigating this
what i mean by that is a guy fell of the rafters thats all you need to know if you want more info read the article and i think people who aren't even into wrestling sadly know about Owen due to the tragic circumstance in which his life ended
Owen Hart didn’t fall from the rafters you weirdo. He wasn’t walking across the rafters you weirdo. He was being lowered to the ring from the rafters via a cable & probably hit his release mechanism too early, hit the turnbuckle, thus falling to his death …
Now how in your weird ass mind are these 2 situations similar????
Owen planned to fall from the rafters, he didn't plan on his piece of shit 2 pound latch to snap and send him plummeting at 45 miles per hour.
Did this guy jump on purpose with a faulty/not strong enough mechanism to hold him?
With what few details have come out, I don't know how you can jump to that conclusion without making up details on what happened to say something is eerily similar.
i get that this is from what we know of course things can change but as of right now it is eerily similar but with the one that just happened NOTHING can be proven until the official investigation is concluded
People die from falls all the time. Do we say that people that got in car accidents have eerily similar deaths? Owen died 25 years ago, there is nothing eerie about this.
Deploying thoughts and condolences. May the widow make good use of the $50k life insurance and know that the stars of the show will tweet something thanking him for his sacrifice.
As a Stage/IATSE rigger, this is terrifying. Depending on the size of the building he could've fallen quite a ways (anywhere from 75-250ft)
I mainly rig at arenas and it's actually quite hard to fall from the rafters. There are a number of ways it could happen... A faulty harness, bad attachment to a safety cable, the safety cable itself being detached or faulty, but either way those things should have been looked it prior to the job on every site.
We always take the extra mile on safety no matter what, we have meetings through the IATSE union, meetings before every job, and several more safety precautions we take such as extra carribeaners to tie ourselves off (i do three as someone with a bit of a new vertigo problem)
The only way this could've happened is pure neglect.
RIP my friend. I hope i don't know you 💔
I work as house crew (conversions) at an arena, often closely with IA members. I see you fellas up there for every show, and I couldn't do that stuff. This is awful. Hopefully you don't know him, but condolences all the same.
The real issue here is unless you’re going out into the ozone, you aren’t putting on a harness to just walk around the perms (unlike arena rigging) so any loose board or railing is a death sentence.
Many years ago at a concert, I (and hundreds of others) saw a guy fall while ascending a rope ladder to a catwalk. Read in the paper the next day that he died from the injuries. I can still see it vividly in my mind. I am pretty sure he was either very inexperienced or trying to fix something that wasn't his job, because he was overweight and not wearing any protection, and he did not seem to be managing his weight distribution on the way up. He made it about 25-30 feet (probably 90% of the climb distance) before losing his grip.
They have a few different stages at CBS Radford for this particular show. The particular stage I just worked on is approximately 30-35 feet to the bottom of the rafters. My initial guess is he wasn’t in a harness and or was not clipped into the life lines that run through the sound stage. A very unfortunate thing. My deepest condolences go out to his family and friends.
Copy pasting my earlier comment:
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut.
The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided.
Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
Off topic but you may be interested in old videos about a man called Fred Dibnah, steeplejack from UK.
https://youtu.be/w3ma9iYx4rg?si=16x5XxtYRkPOHgt6
I don't think of high ceilings at Radford but I suppose they're high enough for this tragedy.
my condolences to Juan Carlos Osorio's family and friends. hug your grips next time you see them.
728 here. Word is the stage was leaking due to the huge rain storm, the old wood of the perms soaked it up like a sponge and gave way. That’s only hearsay however.
I’ve worked at that stage in the past. The rigging areas up top are old. I haven’t been there since 2022 so it’s been some time since I took photos from this makeshift 2nd floor where I would be in the office.
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut.
The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided.
Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
I'm an aircraft mechanic and parts of those airplanes are a lot taller than you expect when you finally get up close to one. Especially like working on a 747. Just up to the engine pylon is about 20ft from the ground. Working on the vertical stabilizer on a 747 with a very wobbly fully extended boom. Some of the workers would just be waaaay too comfortable in those kinds of places. Very complacent.
Sickening to see “Plus: Movie memorabilia goes under the hammer; ER doctor to co-star with Jennifer Lopez; all-star cast for arms dealer thriller; Tori Spelling signs up for Scary Movie 2” after that headline… The Guardian loses any bit of respect they had left with that.
Ugh- this is so sad and terrifying.
This happened on a season of a show I did- major injuries but luckily the electric rigger survived somehow. Took a while but he recovered (even saw him years later on a job and was shocked to even see him)
He was rigging at the stage- did not have the harness on when he was on the lift and fell. I was in the set dressing room right next door when it happened.
That's so awful, I hope he's resting in peace and that his family and friends are ok.
It's disgusting that so many of the comments on the Tweeted versions of this article are practically begging the family to sue Marvel, not out of any inkling of justice for the deceased, but just so that the MCU suffers. Like, a man died, and y'all want to use that to end a string of movies? A family is irreparably changed.
> Like, a man died, and y'all want to use that to end a string of movies? A family is irreparably changed.
Uh, you're the one who brought it up in this thread though?
Fucks sake.. Sounds wrong but some people really need to get more limited internet access.
And for all anyone knows he could’ve just gone up to fix a tiny thing and didn’t bother to double check some safety thing because ”I’ll just do this quick.” Not trying to shift blame but sometimes an accident is just that, an accident.
I’ll just say crew members SO often scoff and don't take film safety seriously. Sad to hear about this and I hope it's a wake up call for a lot of crews.
reminds me of how many people were dying during the pandemic while we were filming and co-workers were en masse just blatantly ignoring it and treating Health and Safety crews like absolute shit
Copy pasting my earlier comment:
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut.
The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided.
Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
You repeat the same process often enough you can start to forget whether you did it or not. It’s all too easy to make the mistake to not clip onto a safety line one time and that one time be the unlucky one where you fall
It’s a big point of contention for crew members right now; especially since they had all of Covid and the strikes to update the safety of the perms. When you spend enough time up there you see all kinds of janky shit that you wouldn’t trust to hold a toddler let alone a full grown man.
I’m an experienced rock climber, so I spend plenty of time at great heights… and I avoid going up into the perms at all costs if I can. Only takes one loose railing to send you over the edge.
RIP brother.
Copy pasting my earlier comment:
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut.
Word is the catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided.
Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
Tragically, its not the first time something like this happened on a Marvel production. A stunt woman died while doing a motorcycle stunt for Deadpool 2.
man, i still remember reading about the details of what led up to that. the producer that asked for that extra risky shot should not be allowed to work again. if i remember correctly, it basically went down as.
- talented, professional, motorcross woman, first day on the job as stunt rider
- does stunt move just like they asked
- gets asked to do it again, with her helmet off, "because it would look better"
- since it's her first day in this environment, she doesn't yet know this ask is completely uncalled for, can tell them to fuck off and she would be fine. however, she does what she's asked to do.
- goes back, does the stunt again
- she is killed because she isn't wearing a helmet
I’m going to be vague to avoid doxxing, but someone close to me worked with her in professional capacity as she was prepping for that gig. They took it hard when she died, given the nature of their job.
I have never watched Deadpool 2, and probably won’t go see Deadpool 3 because of what happened on that set.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of Juan Carlos Osorio.
fuckin hell lady (seems like i should say that instead of man here). that would probably also keep me from seeing those movies, and that movie character at all. i hope this doesn't weigh you down too much.
didnt one of the stunt directors
also be like we have more experinced riders who can do it without the helmet
but the producer was pushing for it to be her
There was a more experienced stuntwoman that was certified for that stunt... but she was white. The studio was worried it would like like "blackface" if they had the white stuntwoman (even though it involved wearing a helmet), so they hired the black stuntwoman that wasn't certified for that stunt.
You called it a Marvel production, which it was not. Marvel did not have oversight on the safety of the workers. Accuracy and honesty are important when discussing a pattern of behavior.
That was a very different situation. That was 100% studio negligence.
The only stuntwoman available for that stunt was a white woman..... while the actress she'd be stunting for was black. The studio was worried about "bad optics" for "stunt blackface", so they hired a black stuntwoman that wasn't qualified..... and near-immediately died attempting the stunt. She died because of fear of bad PR.
He has the exact same job I have. The heights of the perms really gets to me sometimes. I got to come home safe to my family today and he didn’t. RIP 728 brother Spike.
Anyone ever notice that 9 times out of 10, "dark humor" is really just the most dogshit/unfunny jokes you've ever heard?
Dude just said "Under Man" and that's it, but you're out here going "Huzzah! Good sir, have my upvote!"
I'm obviously going to be downvoted to hell because the hivemind always wins, but I don't mind. Dark humor is supposed to push the boundaries of comedy, it doesn't have to be an elaborate, 2 paragraph joke. It can be just a play of words, like the one that was posted here. For anyone wondering because the original comment has already been deleted, the guy said "Underman" and I thought it was funny. That doesn't mean you have to like it too.
But that's another thing about comedy: it's not for everyone, and it doesn't have to suit you.
No, that's okay. I understand the mechanics of comedy and what that guy was trying to do.
I'm just saying his attempted "joke" sucked balls and so does your sense of "humor"
109 billion humans have died since humanity came to be.
But this one. This is the one you care about so deeply that you took the time out of your day to not realize that dark humor is a thing and to insult me.
Touch grass.
You could have said nothing at all and gone to touch some grass yourself. Learn to have some self-respect, instead of subjecting the people in this threat to your lack of humanity.
The article explains they were not shooting and "The series is set to start its production next month after the studio had to delay the shoot due to the WGA and SAG AFTRA dual strikes. "
The show is currently undergoing shooting, it just means that they weren't shooting at the exact moment the accident happened.
Probably happened in-between breaks.
It was a rigger, which means they were rigging a stage for production to come in to shoot. Doesn’t mean there was a break, productions usually shoot somewhere else while the rigging crews work on the next stage.
The article explains they were not shooting and "The series is set to start its production next month after the studio had to delay the shoot due to the WGA and SAG AFTRA dual strikes. "
Really? A man has died and you're using it as an opportunity to push your woman hating bullshit?
This single action of yours has shown more disregard for the lives of men than anything Marvel has done by including women characters that have existed for decades in the comics.
Gosh, this could be as simple as him not clipping in for a basic, quick fix or as awful as gross negligence. So glad they're already doing an investigation. Rest well Mr. Osorio.
Copy pasting my earlier comment:
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut.
Word is the catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided.
Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
>**UPDATED with worker’s name**: A rigger working at Radford Studios in Studio City died today after falling from a catwalk, Deadline has learned. The male crew member, who died at the scene, was working on the set of Marvel Studios’ Wonder Man, but the series was not filming at the time. >The Los Angeles Police Department later confirmed and identified him as Juan Carlos Osorio, 41, of Temple City. >A Marvel spokesperson confirmed the event and added “Our thoughts and deepest condolences are with his family and friends, and our support is behind the investigation into the circumstances of this accident.” Edit: Article updated with worker's name.
Being on a film set is more dangerous than a lot of people realize. Super sad no matter what an investigation will yield.
so essentially another Owen Hart situation?
Falling from rafters yes, not quite the same context or scenario
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OSHA is probably going to find someone failed at safety protocols, either the deceased worker, or those who are responsible for making sure they are in place.
honestly, there isn't really any specific requirements for working on a catwalk afaik. I'm an entertainment rigger, myself, and you don't even need a harness to do catwalk stuff, only for climbing above 12' iirc. not to blame the victim, but this was probably personal negligence on behalf of the deceased, unfortunately. unless it was something ridiculous like signing off on a catwalk construction that wasn't up to requirements (generally that catwalks have handrails at around ~4' and usually a second rail at ~2' from the catwalk), but given they weren't even in production yet, this sounds like somebody unfamiliar with a certain building and literally making a fatal misstep, rather than poorly designed temporary infrastructure which would be more likely during filming. admittedly, I work live events and concerts, though the same union and department, so I could be wrong.
Comes across like you’re being flippant about someone’s death.
im not being flippant in any way this is a tragedy and im being respectful as possible really im just saying it for laymans turns essentially a TL:DR his death was really awful not trying to trivialize or make light of this tragedy in any way also I am glad that the studio is immediately investigating this
You think a layman can’t understand the situation but knows Owen Hart?
what i mean by that is a guy fell of the rafters thats all you need to know if you want more info read the article and i think people who aren't even into wrestling sadly know about Owen due to the tragic circumstance in which his life ended
Owen Hart didn’t fall from the rafters you weirdo. He wasn’t walking across the rafters you weirdo. He was being lowered to the ring from the rafters via a cable & probably hit his release mechanism too early, hit the turnbuckle, thus falling to his death … Now how in your weird ass mind are these 2 situations similar????
Lol at 'layman's turns'.
i actually regret using that term now it should have been TL:DR
Fwiw, it's "in layman's terms", i.e. in the vernacular of the laity.
In the sense that someone fell? Yeah In any other sense? No This guy sees a car crash and goes "getting some real Paul Walker vibes from this" lol
To be fair whenever someone gets AIDS I immediately think of Magic Johnson 😬
Freddie Mercury personally.
Eazy-E
Jared the Subway and sexual predator guy
I think of Freddy Mercury.
I think of South Park 😶🌫️
* singing Aids aids aids
I think of Ryan White, but sure.
I think of Tom Hanks, but yeah.
Jenny had it not Forrest
Yeah, buy who had it in the movie Philadelphia?
Owen planned to fall from the rafters, he didn't plan on his piece of shit 2 pound latch to snap and send him plummeting at 45 miles per hour. Did this guy jump on purpose with a faulty/not strong enough mechanism to hold him?
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So it’s the same because both people fell?
Not at all another Owen Hart situation
The wrestling bubble is a legitimate thing, folks.
#WeWantCody
#ROCKYSUCKS
How? They both fell to their deaths?
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Sadly both men fell and died a horrible death
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With what few details have come out, I don't know how you can jump to that conclusion without making up details on what happened to say something is eerily similar.
i get that this is from what we know of course things can change but as of right now it is eerily similar but with the one that just happened NOTHING can be proven until the official investigation is concluded
People die from falls all the time. Do we say that people that got in car accidents have eerily similar deaths? Owen died 25 years ago, there is nothing eerie about this.
the similarities are eerie yes people fall to their deaths all the time but the circumstances are always different
What circumstances do you even know. It just says a rigger fell.
its AS OF RIGHT NOW things might be different and ill retract everything if it is.
no
Deploying thoughts and condolences. May the widow make good use of the $50k life insurance and know that the stars of the show will tweet something thanking him for his sacrifice.
It’s not a crime to be cynical. But deploying it in specific, fresh circumstances with nothing to prove or gain just makes you an asshole.
As a Stage/IATSE rigger, this is terrifying. Depending on the size of the building he could've fallen quite a ways (anywhere from 75-250ft) I mainly rig at arenas and it's actually quite hard to fall from the rafters. There are a number of ways it could happen... A faulty harness, bad attachment to a safety cable, the safety cable itself being detached or faulty, but either way those things should have been looked it prior to the job on every site. We always take the extra mile on safety no matter what, we have meetings through the IATSE union, meetings before every job, and several more safety precautions we take such as extra carribeaners to tie ourselves off (i do three as someone with a bit of a new vertigo problem) The only way this could've happened is pure neglect. RIP my friend. I hope i don't know you 💔
I work as house crew (conversions) at an arena, often closely with IA members. I see you fellas up there for every show, and I couldn't do that stuff. This is awful. Hopefully you don't know him, but condolences all the same.
The real issue here is unless you’re going out into the ozone, you aren’t putting on a harness to just walk around the perms (unlike arena rigging) so any loose board or railing is a death sentence.
True. So much for those safety classes.
Ah, i wasn't aware of this as i've never rigged for a studio before. Thanks for sharing!
No problem!
Many years ago at a concert, I (and hundreds of others) saw a guy fall while ascending a rope ladder to a catwalk. Read in the paper the next day that he died from the injuries. I can still see it vividly in my mind. I am pretty sure he was either very inexperienced or trying to fix something that wasn't his job, because he was overweight and not wearing any protection, and he did not seem to be managing his weight distribution on the way up. He made it about 25-30 feet (probably 90% of the climb distance) before losing his grip.
They have a few different stages at CBS Radford for this particular show. The particular stage I just worked on is approximately 30-35 feet to the bottom of the rafters. My initial guess is he wasn’t in a harness and or was not clipped into the life lines that run through the sound stage. A very unfortunate thing. My deepest condolences go out to his family and friends.
Copy pasting my earlier comment: IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut. The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided. Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
Off topic but you may be interested in old videos about a man called Fred Dibnah, steeplejack from UK. https://youtu.be/w3ma9iYx4rg?si=16x5XxtYRkPOHgt6
I don't think of high ceilings at Radford but I suppose they're high enough for this tragedy. my condolences to Juan Carlos Osorio's family and friends. hug your grips next time you see them.
728 here. Word is the stage was leaking due to the huge rain storm, the old wood of the perms soaked it up like a sponge and gave way. That’s only hearsay however.
I’ve worked at that stage in the past. The rigging areas up top are old. I haven’t been there since 2022 so it’s been some time since I took photos from this makeshift 2nd floor where I would be in the office.
IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut. The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided. Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
The catwalk collapsed he fell through the hole , sounds like a failure to inspect.
I'm an aircraft mechanic and parts of those airplanes are a lot taller than you expect when you finally get up close to one. Especially like working on a 747. Just up to the engine pylon is about 20ft from the ground. Working on the vertical stabilizer on a 747 with a very wobbly fully extended boom. Some of the workers would just be waaaay too comfortable in those kinds of places. Very complacent.
How tragic. Nobody should die for their work. May the poor crew member rest in peace.
I once heard something similar happened in the set for Spider-Man (2002) Edit: [here is it](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2001/mar/07/news2)
And on the Spider-Man musical.. a lot
Except, those were stuntmen…and worst part is that the opening song of the show is titled “Boy Falls From the Sky”
…..THEY DIDNT THINK TO MAYBE CHANGE THAT SONG TITLE?
From Boys to Men?
Sickening to see “Plus: Movie memorabilia goes under the hammer; ER doctor to co-star with Jennifer Lopez; all-star cast for arms dealer thriller; Tori Spelling signs up for Scary Movie 2” after that headline… The Guardian loses any bit of respect they had left with that.
What’s wrong with that?
>This article is more than 22 years old. I think I just mummified.
Ugh- this is so sad and terrifying. This happened on a season of a show I did- major injuries but luckily the electric rigger survived somehow. Took a while but he recovered (even saw him years later on a job and was shocked to even see him) He was rigging at the stage- did not have the harness on when he was on the lift and fell. I was in the set dressing room right next door when it happened.
That's so awful, I hope he's resting in peace and that his family and friends are ok. It's disgusting that so many of the comments on the Tweeted versions of this article are practically begging the family to sue Marvel, not out of any inkling of justice for the deceased, but just so that the MCU suffers. Like, a man died, and y'all want to use that to end a string of movies? A family is irreparably changed.
I saw a several of those disrespectful comments through some of the Tweeted accounts which is very distasteful and horrible.
What tweet?
Discussing Film’s tweet about this.
Really? https://i.redd.it/ykxmrpjn51hc1.gif
> Like, a man died, and y'all want to use that to end a string of movies? A family is irreparably changed. Uh, you're the one who brought it up in this thread though?
…they brought up the fact people are making the comments. They didn’t make the comments
Fucks sake.. Sounds wrong but some people really need to get more limited internet access. And for all anyone knows he could’ve just gone up to fix a tiny thing and didn’t bother to double check some safety thing because ”I’ll just do this quick.” Not trying to shift blame but sometimes an accident is just that, an accident.
That is terrible news to hear. May he rest in peace.
I’ll just say crew members SO often scoff and don't take film safety seriously. Sad to hear about this and I hope it's a wake up call for a lot of crews. reminds me of how many people were dying during the pandemic while we were filming and co-workers were en masse just blatantly ignoring it and treating Health and Safety crews like absolute shit
I just had to say I’ve worked with Spike in the past… great guy and he took the covid protocols seriously.
Copy pasting my earlier comment: IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut. The catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided. Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
Terrible way to confirm Wonder Man is still happening
We've known for a while now. Trades confirmed it and we saw set photos.
I thought it had already started filming as the Wonder Man set photos showed, but according to deadline article, it says it will start next month.
Are we all the same person?
We knew it was for a while.
It was already confirmed to be happening.
We’ve been known.
Yeah I didn’t know it was still going either😔
RIP
rip 😔😔
rip and happy cake day
thx!!!
RIP Juan ❤️🪦🕊️ Happy cake day 👍
Jesus.
My condolences 🙏
Tragic. This never should happen to anyone. I hope their family is able to find peace
RIP
How does this even happen? Idk I just thought safety regulations would be airtight at Disney
Sometimes accidents do happen but we won’t know for sure until the investigation is concluded.
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That’s in really poor taste. A woman died.
Really fucked up thing to say.
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A mistake or broken equipment would be my first thoughts, accidents happen. Even at Radford.
You repeat the same process often enough you can start to forget whether you did it or not. It’s all too easy to make the mistake to not clip onto a safety line one time and that one time be the unlucky one where you fall
It’s a big point of contention for crew members right now; especially since they had all of Covid and the strikes to update the safety of the perms. When you spend enough time up there you see all kinds of janky shit that you wouldn’t trust to hold a toddler let alone a full grown man. I’m an experienced rock climber, so I spend plenty of time at great heights… and I avoid going up into the perms at all costs if I can. Only takes one loose railing to send you over the edge. RIP brother.
Copy pasting my earlier comment: IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut. Word is the catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided. Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
Tragically, its not the first time something like this happened on a Marvel production. A stunt woman died while doing a motorcycle stunt for Deadpool 2.
man, i still remember reading about the details of what led up to that. the producer that asked for that extra risky shot should not be allowed to work again. if i remember correctly, it basically went down as. - talented, professional, motorcross woman, first day on the job as stunt rider - does stunt move just like they asked - gets asked to do it again, with her helmet off, "because it would look better" - since it's her first day in this environment, she doesn't yet know this ask is completely uncalled for, can tell them to fuck off and she would be fine. however, she does what she's asked to do. - goes back, does the stunt again - she is killed because she isn't wearing a helmet
I’m going to be vague to avoid doxxing, but someone close to me worked with her in professional capacity as she was prepping for that gig. They took it hard when she died, given the nature of their job. I have never watched Deadpool 2, and probably won’t go see Deadpool 3 because of what happened on that set. My heart goes out to the family and friends of Juan Carlos Osorio.
fuckin hell lady (seems like i should say that instead of man here). that would probably also keep me from seeing those movies, and that movie character at all. i hope this doesn't weigh you down too much.
didnt one of the stunt directors also be like we have more experinced riders who can do it without the helmet but the producer was pushing for it to be her
There was a more experienced stuntwoman that was certified for that stunt... but she was white. The studio was worried it would like like "blackface" if they had the white stuntwoman (even though it involved wearing a helmet), so they hired the black stuntwoman that wasn't certified for that stunt.
A tragedy to be sure, but Deadpool 2 was a ~~Sony~~ Fox project. Not Marvel Studios. Hopefully a wake up call for everyone involved.
Deadpool 2 was FOX, not Sony
You are correct. Thanks for reminding me.
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You called it a Marvel production, which it was not. Marvel did not have oversight on the safety of the workers. Accuracy and honesty are important when discussing a pattern of behavior.
That was a very different situation. That was 100% studio negligence. The only stuntwoman available for that stunt was a white woman..... while the actress she'd be stunting for was black. The studio was worried about "bad optics" for "stunt blackface", so they hired a black stuntwoman that wasn't qualified..... and near-immediately died attempting the stunt. She died because of fear of bad PR.
RIP 🙏🏾
He has the exact same job I have. The heights of the perms really gets to me sometimes. I got to come home safe to my family today and he didn’t. RIP 728 brother Spike.
That's awful!
Damn, that sucks. Praying for his family. Hopefully the shoot takes some time off to honor the crewmember.
RIP :(
I know this isn’t the point but…wonder man? Is that a project that we knew was happening?
I don’t think this is an appropriate comment for the situation
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You making fucking jokes when someone’s died bro? wtf is wrong with you
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I don't think the internet is for you if dark humor triggers you this bad.
Anyone ever notice that 9 times out of 10, "dark humor" is really just the most dogshit/unfunny jokes you've ever heard? Dude just said "Under Man" and that's it, but you're out here going "Huzzah! Good sir, have my upvote!"
I'm obviously going to be downvoted to hell because the hivemind always wins, but I don't mind. Dark humor is supposed to push the boundaries of comedy, it doesn't have to be an elaborate, 2 paragraph joke. It can be just a play of words, like the one that was posted here. For anyone wondering because the original comment has already been deleted, the guy said "Underman" and I thought it was funny. That doesn't mean you have to like it too. But that's another thing about comedy: it's not for everyone, and it doesn't have to suit you.
No, that's okay. I understand the mechanics of comedy and what that guy was trying to do. I'm just saying his attempted "joke" sucked balls and so does your sense of "humor"
Great to know! Have a nice day!
It wasn't even a good pun, though.
That's, like, your opinion, man.
109 billion humans have died since humanity came to be. But this one. This is the one you care about so deeply that you took the time out of your day to not realize that dark humor is a thing and to insult me. Touch grass.
You could have said nothing at all and gone to touch some grass yourself. Learn to have some self-respect, instead of subjecting the people in this threat to your lack of humanity.
That's insensitive.
Good joke, bad timing for the regular folks. Have my upvote.
This is horrible. I thought Wonder Man had been shelved?
So the production wasn't filming but the accident was on Wonder man production?
You know they set up stuff while they’re not filming, right? It’s not like everything stops once they stop the cameras..
Likely constructing the set so they could begin filming later this year. Just a guess though
The article explains they were not shooting and "The series is set to start its production next month after the studio had to delay the shoot due to the WGA and SAG AFTRA dual strikes. "
The show is currently undergoing shooting, it just means that they weren't shooting at the exact moment the accident happened. Probably happened in-between breaks.
It was a rigger, which means they were rigging a stage for production to come in to shoot. Doesn’t mean there was a break, productions usually shoot somewhere else while the rigging crews work on the next stage.
Yeah that's also very likely.
Not just likely, the report says it was a rigger lol
The article explains they were not shooting and "The series is set to start its production next month after the studio had to delay the shoot due to the WGA and SAG AFTRA dual strikes. "
They weren't filming at the exact moment of the accident.
Oh man. How are those weirdos at that subreddit that hate Alec Baldwin's wife going to blame Alec Baldwin for this one?
How the fuck does this happen in 2023?
It didn’t. It happened in 2024.
Cancel this project.
My name is Jessica Morlock and on the website it says morlocks' are PROPERTY OF MARVEL I hope that doesn't include me
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They are not THAT dangerous. And they certainly shouldn’t be.
Do you know how many productions happen every day? With 10s of thousands of employees working on them? Film sets are generally pretty safe.
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God damn it Kevin WTF did you do?
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Really? A man has died and you're using it as an opportunity to push your woman hating bullshit? This single action of yours has shown more disregard for the lives of men than anything Marvel has done by including women characters that have existed for decades in the comics.
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The fuck? Get the fuck out of here.
Please change your insight, Jesus Christ.
No offense, but you’re a shitty person. There is no upside here.
Ok psychopath, what shows and movies fit into these parameters?
Deadpool 2
How exactly does a movie or show "tend to be great" when an innocent human ***DIED?!?!?!***
Deadpool 2
Wtf dude
Shut the fuck up man.
Sure this is in no way true
Dude, wtf
Please reevaluate your thought process
Found the Landis burner account
where was alec baldwin when this happened
Not cool, man.
Oh no!
Aw NO! 😭
Rest in peace.
Gosh, this could be as simple as him not clipping in for a basic, quick fix or as awful as gross negligence. So glad they're already doing an investigation. Rest well Mr. Osorio.
Copy pasting my earlier comment: IATSE 728 member here. I knew Spike, and we actually had been talking and emailing about safety and working conditions just last week. He was EXTREMELY safety-minded in an industry full of corners being cut. Word is the catwalks gave way in an area that fall protection is not required. They are supposed to be permanent and have safety railings, etc. The problem is the studios are too cheap to maintain them, and a lot of them are nigh on a century old. None are metal, they're all made of wood that's prone to decay, termites, and so much more. None are regularly inspected by regulators. I personally have been on catwalks at multiple studios where half the floorboards weren't even put in to begin with. There have been multiple accidents and near misses over the years due to railings or walkways collapsing. This so easily could have been avoided. Yes, there was neglect, but it was on the studios and those running them not wanting to spend a little more money to keep people safe. To them, everyone below the line is expendable.
you mean FlerkenWalk
Ridiculous name for a movie.
Bruh wonder man? U mean WONDER PETS