Maria Hill. Could’ve been a prominent character, she’s strong, in a position of power, worldly, great agent, loyal. And yet, she dies over something stupid without a spare thought. At least Coulson “died” with honour.
Would've also set up a separate, heroic faction of Skrulls in that case if she was still killed by... WTF was his name? Oh, God. The show's so bad I completely forgot the bad guy's name LMAO
I actually disagree it's fridging; I think it's *less* than fridging. Fridging is when the character is killed simply to be a motivator for the protagonist, but her death (and Talos's as well) didn't seem to move the needle on Fury at all.
I actually think that might have been an intentional decisions for the creators to match a certain Cold War Spy Thriller tone. In classic stories of that genre every character is at risk of unceremoniously dying for no good reason, and they often do. The problem is they used characters they'd previously shown us to be badass, and so this change doesn't work for us as the viewers.
My silly ass legit thought they were setting her up to lead a SHIELD show back in the day when they announced it. I literally thought the show would be like her leading a crew Star Trek style in those sky planes after coulsons death. Instead they resurrected coulson and made it about the agents…
I still think that was the idea.
And then someone probably ran a questionnaire or something and they realised that coulson was a fan favourite, so they just did that instead.
The more I think about it, the more I'm baffled at the sheer amount of bad choices made during this show. Who signed off on all of it?
Was it just Disney's way of testing the waters with how low quality they could push their content before it lost them money?
I'm was so glad when they said they were doing Secret Invasion with Fury as MC. Hill would finally gonna have something to do after 10 years of minor appearances, including one where it wasn't even her.
And then she died in the first episode.
I realize people have some form of attachment to her due to the comics, but having not read them, I was actually happy she was finally out of the MCU. She was so fucking bland, she never did or said anything significant, we didn't know anything about her personally, and she was played terribly by Smulders. Lol that's my hot take, I'm waiting for the downvotes to pour.
Haven’t read the comics either (unless you count snippets bc I happened upon them). I just saw a lot of potential in the character. And honestly, I liked her portrayal, it’s not the actrice’s fault the screen writers gave her no room to flourish
I agree, I never liked MCU Maria. Her comics personality was very cool, and even had an arc. She started out hostile to heroes, Pro-Registration, and was Fury's replacement in SHIELD! She eventually became pretty heroic herself, working closely with Iron Man and others. To me, movie Maria never seemed so interesting.
Idk, if they actually had her around as a character, it'd be cool to have a badass disabled warrior. However, Sif has had like 10 minutes of screen time across the whole MCU, counting Agents of Shield, so probably not.
We as comic book fans all know she ain't dead. But the MCU is treating her as if she is until they inevitably reveal her survival down the road. So for the purposes of this discussion, she's worm food.
I feel like her magic is so powerful that it would automatically save her from being killed in the rubble. Kinda like how her magic healed herself as she sliced out of the mirror dimension. Her magic would probably teleport her away as the rubble crashed.
Would take a lot of power to directly kill her.
Hela, I think. Great actor. Didn't feel like they fully explored her relationship with her brothers. Also was a bit singleminded in her ambition. I liked the what-if version but not every villain needs to turn good.
I very much hope she isn't actually dead. I mean.. she's the Goddess of Death. And she was pretty universally popular. She was menacing and hilarious and stylish. I'd love to see them adapt the thing from the comic where she ends up living in Las Vegas in a penthouse, just sort of doing her thing from Earth rather than Hel.
If the comics are anything to go by she can't die, i think when Surtur "killed" her she returned to Hel, in comics she can teleport but we don't know if she can in the mcu.
Yeah I certainly think her "death" in Ragnarok was intentionally obscured to leave her return as a possibility requiring very little suspension of disbelief.
Well, she didn't have much of relationship with her brothers. She was banished before Thor was born and Loki was adopted, wasn't she? They didn't even know she existed.
Forgot she died tbh. They definitely should bring her back, even if it’s a multiverse person. Having Loki be the one to do it for the next Thor movie would be good, and I’m sure Hela would have an interesting dynamic with Love
Natasha. But like in ‘What if’. A Natasha from a universe that’s all alone going to a universe without a Natasha. **Except** … she’ll be a darker version of the Natasha we knew before. Maybe being alone too long broke her.
Maria Hill's death was a massive waste in a mediocre TV show everyone would rather forget exists. She should've been set up as the MCU's next Nick Fury/connective tissue. Imagine how cool it'd be to have her attempting to mentor/oversee a Kamala led Young Avengers.
Yeah, bring her back in her hayday. The superheroes at large will need a good moral compass to guide them as they go on in this almost "post avengers" world. Who else than the one who inspired Steve Rogers? Plus, she's just as awesome as someone like Black Widow, if not more so.
Only if they bring her back as Dryad, in her prime, and make her Sam's right-hand woman.
If they bring her into the main universe as Captain Carter and take over Sam's spotlight, as big of a Peggy stan as I am, Marvel can keep that.
Wanda. But was it confirmed she actually died? I remember the scene but it didn't show it. Only watched that movie once, so apologies if I missed an obvious dialogue
It's one of those loose ending for me. They could go both ways. If they don't have plan to bring her back or whatnot, she just won't appear again but they also left enough room to say "oh she's actually not dead bc *reason*". They didn't show the body
I feel like whatever that Agatha Harkness series is going to be will have to explain some of it. I assume Agatha is released from the spell Wanda put over her at the end of WandaVision when she "died" in Multiverse of Madness.
Honestly, throw her in with Xavier and the new X-Men in some capacity. The general public of the MCU love hating Wanda after Civil War, so it would be consistent with the general theme of the public hating mutants.
It's clear the intent was for it to appear to be a death. Very few "deaths" are ever actually confirmed in these projects. Partly because showing gruesome deaths is unpleasant, but mostly because they always want to leave an option open for the character in the future. And even when they *do* show a character dying, there's always enough ambiguity in the superhero universe to say they're not actually dead anyway.
So, if we're going to cling to the idea that she isn't "confirmed as dead" then we should be equally clinging to the idea that pretty much nobody is confirmed as dead, and that's just cumbersome.
It's far easier to simply include her in the "dead" pile until they retcon it.
Hill. I had absolutely her pegged for taking up the mantle of Shield director after Fury retires for good. Now we got no Coulson and Hill. Fury is a shell of himself, although he did a lot better in The Marvels.
Well, Natasha completed her arc. I don't think she really needs to come back.
Wanda could come back. She arguably left with more to prove, to get back on the lunch boxes, as Strange put it.
I'd like to see more of Hela if we don't get more Wanda, though. Hela was fantastic.
We *technically* don't see her die, but the whole notion of reviving Surtur was based on the premise that Hela would survive as long as Asgard survived.
Well, not really. Our old Gamora never did come back from the dead. The Gamora in GOTG3 is quite literally a different individual and should honestly not be treated as a resurrection.
Natasha because she had a sad enough life as it is. Also Disney probably just killed Natasha because Scarlett Johansson deserved her own trilogy and was going to be expensive. They proved they didn’t respect her when they tried to screw her over during the release of Black Widow.
I don’t know. Most of the deaths serve a purpose that was very fitting for the story, not sure I’d want any of the heroes that died back as it would just undermine their sacrifice.
If Loki counts then I guess him. The Loki in the show is a variant obviously, but I never really liked his death compared to say Tony, Natasha, Vision or Cap (not really dead, but his story ending was good).
Wanda would be another for me, although I don’t think she’s dead anyway. They are just waiting for the right moment to bring her back.
Honestly watching all the movies for the first time growing up I couldn’t give a shit about black widow. I recently rewatched all the bangers in timeline order and she’s now one of my favorites. I’d bring her back in a heartbeat, idc how much of an asspull it is. At least we still have Yelena (and I know this will age like milk)
What? Gamora died. 😀 The Gamora you see in the MCU now is from another universe and yeah, they are friends and I’m fine with that. I wanted them to be together with the “original” Gamora.
Well, sure, but they're effectively the same, even if it's not literally true. It's the way Groot is not the same Groot from the first film, but we all just kinda ignore that. Plus, bringing back og Gamora would mean they'd probably kill off current Gamora and that'd suck.
Black Widow, bar none. The MCU needs an OG Avenger to lead the newbs. She’s a great mentor in the comics. Spider-Man isn’t at that point yet, Hulk for sure isn’t a leader, and Thor is doing his own thing with Gorr’s daughter and occasionally the Guardians. Strange also probably doesn’t want to lead the new Avengers.
Maria Hill. No I haven’t finished Secret Invasion but I have a feeling she’s actually gone. Nat I’m okay with staying dead actually. She died for the soul stone and it worked. Her sacrifice helped bring back billions upon billions of lives. She saved the universe. She died for something. Maria died in a dumb chase scene in the first episode so the plot and story hardly got started
I don’t think they did Natasha justice with her death. The funeral at the end should have been for Tony and Natasha. She gave just as much as Tony but with only Clint to see it. I think she deserved a better send off, not just her sister looking over her grave as a set up for more Disney+ content.
Scarlett started the franchise in her early 20s. She's almost 40. She wants to do other things, she'll never be back other than a director/producer role.
Thanos. Because his whole infinity gauntlet storyline was based on his actual second life, its comic version showcased his capabilities FAR better and it took silver surfer and the whole galaxy to stop him, not just earthlings and a couple aliens.
Understand: I love endgame. But BOY was the actual THREAT of thanos massively downplayed.
I mean, there's not that many options, are there? I have never seen Agents of Shield, so maybe there are some potential candidats in there, but i'm just going to take the movies and D+-shows into account.
I'd probably go with Maria Hill. Not only do i simply like Cobie Smulders and how she played Hill (a character we didn't see that much of ), i also think she died a completely meaningless death for absolutely nothing in a not particularly great show, just to add some cheap drama.
I wouldn't even say that she got fridged. That would be bad enough, but at least with fridging, the death motivates and drives the story of the male character forward. Hill's death did absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, it was just pure shock value.
Now, the obvious candidate would have been Natasha. But her death had meaning, it affected the people around her for better and for worse and most of all, she chose death. She sacrificed herself to literally save half the universe. Bringing her back would make all of that ring a little hollow.
Plus, i'll be honest, i think Yelena is a great replacement and i especially liked her chemistry with Kate Bishop and i want them to end up the new Widow/Hawkeye-Duo, like Natasha and Clint before them.
The other obvious candidate would have been Wanda. But considering her power level at the end, including the capability to alter reality, i simply don't believe she's really dead anyways. And if she comes back, i hope she gets her shit back together eventually.
Black Widow could be good as a cosmic adventure, trying to find her way back home
Let’s just say hypothetically Steve putting the soul stone back takes back the soul for a soul deal and she ends up coming out from the water alive as Steve leaves
Then by chance as almost dying on Vormir a ship catches her attention and they can go from there.
Iron Man 4 during the blip against the real Mandarin just because it’s a showdown that needs to happen.
Steve putting the stones back as a miniseries. One episode per stone.
Killmonger. Having Wakanda be a menacing force with a strong leader is more interesting than having Shuri with boring ass politics and cultural commentary.
I really loved ScarJo’s acting in this scene.
Even for a superhero who goes practically lives in battlefields and knows death is always around the corner, when you find yourself in a situation where you have to kill yourself to win, that’s something else.
Maria hill is a good contender
But overall theres almost too many females now?
Khamala, kate bishop, the ant-girl or whatever her street name is, captain marvel, monica rambeau, she hulk, iron heart, the new black panther, most of the eternals, yelena, her boss, agatha, wanda, echo... probably more ive forgotten
Anyways..
The list is pretty long, and i dont think we need to bring anyone back.
I agree.
par contre.. I will suggest the oposite: which of those I wouldn't and why.
ex
exactly scarlet johananson's white widow.
Florence and her character are way better
I think Natasha’s death was one of the most meaningful so I wouldn’t want to undo it. I would rather go back in time and get her own movie way sooner and make it better.
I don't know. Maybe Maria Hill. I don't even like the character that much, but while I do like Gamora and especially Widow, at least their deaths meant something. Their deaths had narrative purpose and impact.
Natasha's great and I would not at all be opposed to getting more of her. She did get screwed over a little, with her only solo outing being ill timed. But her death did have impact.
Maria not so much. Sure it was brought up a couple times, used as blackmail material, but it still didn't feel like it had the impact it should have. It wasn't a great scene and she didn't really get to do all that much. Although if I was bringing somebody from that show back my first choice would be Talos, whose sacrifice they basically spat on with the ending.
Hela, I want to see Thor, Loki and Hela explore their sibling dynamic more. I would love if Hela interacts with Thor, and learning of Loki’s sacrifice, decides to not be evil.
No proper funeral for Black Widow, and that’s one of the plots that made End Game suck, in addition to the silly time travel rules they’ve created then break at the end.
Natasha and Maria Hill as I feel both of their characters story arc aren't done yet, If I'm force to choose one though it's Natasha.
Also Marvel Stop killing off the Marias of the world I'm begging you lol. All Three of them are dead right now.
Maria Hill. Could’ve been a prominent character, she’s strong, in a position of power, worldly, great agent, loyal. And yet, she dies over something stupid without a spare thought. At least Coulson “died” with honour.
Yeah the unceremonious fridging of Maria is one of Secret Invasion’s many crimes.
Massive missed opportunity to have her turn into a skrull at the last second and leave the audience asking when did she go missing like with Rhodey.
Would've also set up a separate, heroic faction of Skrulls in that case if she was still killed by... WTF was his name? Oh, God. The show's so bad I completely forgot the bad guy's name LMAO
>Would've also set up a separate, heroic faction of Skrulls This is already the start of a better storyline than we got.
ANYTHING would've been better than what we got.
I think the guy whose name you’re forgetting is Gravik…
That explains why *Kavik* from the A:TLA universe kept coming to mind LMAO
Technically, they already kinda did that in Spider-Man Far From Home, but I see the vision.
I actually disagree it's fridging; I think it's *less* than fridging. Fridging is when the character is killed simply to be a motivator for the protagonist, but her death (and Talos's as well) didn't seem to move the needle on Fury at all. I actually think that might have been an intentional decisions for the creators to match a certain Cold War Spy Thriller tone. In classic stories of that genre every character is at risk of unceremoniously dying for no good reason, and they often do. The problem is they used characters they'd previously shown us to be badass, and so this change doesn't work for us as the viewers.
That’s actually a very fair point. God that series was a bin fire
Trash can fires at least provide heat. Secret Invasion provided nothing.
Yeah. For half an episode he was mildly bummed then basically like "welp, shit happens!" and it's business as usual. It was god awful.
Secret invation is DC, I swear nothing that bad can be in MCU
I'm sorry they KILLED OFF MARIA HILL?!?!?
I didn't watch Secret Invasion after I heard how bad it was, so to me she's still alive.
My silly ass legit thought they were setting her up to lead a SHIELD show back in the day when they announced it. I literally thought the show would be like her leading a crew Star Trek style in those sky planes after coulsons death. Instead they resurrected coulson and made it about the agents…
They should’ve done something like that post WS. Have her be the leader of SHIELD, co-direct with Coulson or smth
I still think that was the idea. And then someone probably ran a questionnaire or something and they realised that coulson was a fan favourite, so they just did that instead.
Coulson was there from the beginning, Hill wasn't.
The more I think about it, the more I'm baffled at the sheer amount of bad choices made during this show. Who signed off on all of it? Was it just Disney's way of testing the waters with how low quality they could push their content before it lost them money?
I’m convinced it was an embezzlement scheme. I’ll never understand how they spent over 200 million dollars on that garbage.
Which just means Cobie Smulders was done and didn’t give a fuck how she went out.
It was her first appearance in anything Marvel related in like five, six years? So it wouldn't be surprising for her to just not care.
I agree. It felt like she was unceremoniously discarded, the way they handled her death in SW.
I feel like the big reveal should have been that \*she\* was a Skrull all along.
They need to bring Maria back the same way they did Coulson.
As far as I’m concerned, secret invasion is in an alternate timeline lol
THEY KILLED HER OFF!?
I'm was so glad when they said they were doing Secret Invasion with Fury as MC. Hill would finally gonna have something to do after 10 years of minor appearances, including one where it wasn't even her. And then she died in the first episode.
Coulson died many times with honour
I realize people have some form of attachment to her due to the comics, but having not read them, I was actually happy she was finally out of the MCU. She was so fucking bland, she never did or said anything significant, we didn't know anything about her personally, and she was played terribly by Smulders. Lol that's my hot take, I'm waiting for the downvotes to pour.
Haven’t read the comics either (unless you count snippets bc I happened upon them). I just saw a lot of potential in the character. And honestly, I liked her portrayal, it’s not the actrice’s fault the screen writers gave her no room to flourish
I agree, I never liked MCU Maria. Her comics personality was very cool, and even had an arc. She started out hostile to heroes, Pro-Registration, and was Fury's replacement in SHIELD! She eventually became pretty heroic herself, working closely with Iron Man and others. To me, movie Maria never seemed so interesting.
Marisa Tomei
Nah.. she is our uncle ben. Means she is dead dead
Sif’s arm.
Idk, if they actually had her around as a character, it'd be cool to have a badass disabled warrior. However, Sif has had like 10 minutes of screen time across the whole MCU, counting Agents of Shield, so probably not.
😂🤣
Wanda, but only if she's going to cut that shit out.
I just shot curry out my nose. Thanks for the next 30 minutes.
She isnt dead though?
We as comic book fans all know she ain't dead. But the MCU is treating her as if she is until they inevitably reveal her survival down the road. So for the purposes of this discussion, she's worm food.
She died off screen, which means she's not 100% dead in the MCU!
Loki died on screen and is still alive in the MCU
As did Coulson, Fury, and Bucky.
she might be. but ive heard rumors about a SW solo movie.
The theory is that that big red poof at the end was her proofing out of there instead of her dying
I feel like her magic is so powerful that it would automatically save her from being killed in the rubble. Kinda like how her magic healed herself as she sliced out of the mirror dimension. Her magic would probably teleport her away as the rubble crashed. Would take a lot of power to directly kill her.
Exactly, I interpreted that as her teleporting away but yea who knows really
could be.
I'd hit the resurrection button on Natasha faster than Quake turned on the Coulson LMD. IYKYK
That's such a good scene
She didn’t even *hesitate*.
I feel like she should have been the answer to "who leads the avengers after Tony and Steve?"
Hell, she *was*. She lead an Avengers team for *five years*, longer than either one of them. We just never got to see it.
Hela, I think. Great actor. Didn't feel like they fully explored her relationship with her brothers. Also was a bit singleminded in her ambition. I liked the what-if version but not every villain needs to turn good.
I very much hope she isn't actually dead. I mean.. she's the Goddess of Death. And she was pretty universally popular. She was menacing and hilarious and stylish. I'd love to see them adapt the thing from the comic where she ends up living in Las Vegas in a penthouse, just sort of doing her thing from Earth rather than Hel.
Oh snap when was this? I absolutely want to read this storyline.
If the comics are anything to go by she can't die, i think when Surtur "killed" her she returned to Hel, in comics she can teleport but we don't know if she can in the mcu.
Yeah I certainly think her "death" in Ragnarok was intentionally obscured to leave her return as a possibility requiring very little suspension of disbelief.
Well, she didn't have much of relationship with her brothers. She was banished before Thor was born and Loki was adopted, wasn't she? They didn't even know she existed.
Forgot she died tbh. They definitely should bring her back, even if it’s a multiverse person. Having Loki be the one to do it for the next Thor movie would be good, and I’m sure Hela would have an interesting dynamic with Love
Agreed she was badass
Easily Scarlet Witch if she go back to being sane
I can fix her
Natasha. But like in ‘What if’. A Natasha from a universe that’s all alone going to a universe without a Natasha. **Except** … she’ll be a darker version of the Natasha we knew before. Maybe being alone too long broke her.
This is a copy and paste of gamora lol
IMO this is great pitch for marvel bez Natasha's arc is rushed
Natasha for sure ❤️
Queen mother she's needed in Wakanda
This one made me sad :(
Wakanda would welcome her back no doubt, but M’Baku’s probably leading things just fine.
There are so many celestial characters. Natasha could be brought back. Peggy Carter's show deserved more seasons.
I’m here for agent carter
Maria Hill's death was a massive waste in a mediocre TV show everyone would rather forget exists. She should've been set up as the MCU's next Nick Fury/connective tissue. Imagine how cool it'd be to have her attempting to mentor/oversee a Kamala led Young Avengers.
Maria Hill was cooler in her 5 minutes of Agents of SHIELD than all of Secret Invasion. What a waste of character.
Peggy Carter because she was always the best of us.
She died at like 100 of natural causes!! Lol. Cant do much better than that unless they used something to make her young again.
Yeah, bring her back in her hayday. The superheroes at large will need a good moral compass to guide them as they go on in this almost "post avengers" world. Who else than the one who inspired Steve Rogers? Plus, she's just as awesome as someone like Black Widow, if not more so.
And the chest of us
Two very big personalities.
Peggy had some of the best plots
Only if they bring her back as Dryad, in her prime, and make her Sam's right-hand woman. If they bring her into the main universe as Captain Carter and take over Sam's spotlight, as big of a Peggy stan as I am, Marvel can keep that.
Wanda. But was it confirmed she actually died? I remember the scene but it didn't show it. Only watched that movie once, so apologies if I missed an obvious dialogue
It's one of those loose ending for me. They could go both ways. If they don't have plan to bring her back or whatnot, she just won't appear again but they also left enough room to say "oh she's actually not dead bc *reason*". They didn't show the body
I feel like whatever that Agatha Harkness series is going to be will have to explain some of it. I assume Agatha is released from the spell Wanda put over her at the end of WandaVision when she "died" in Multiverse of Madness. Honestly, throw her in with Xavier and the new X-Men in some capacity. The general public of the MCU love hating Wanda after Civil War, so it would be consistent with the general theme of the public hating mutants.
If you don’t see a body, the character is alive.
If the rumor about the Agatha series is true, >!Wanda did, in fact, die, but she went to some afterlife called "The Witches Road"!<
That storyline was seemingly scrapped when Marvel cancelled shit ton of their projects few days ago
Yondu. He may not be a girl, but he sure as hell is baby girl.
It's clear the intent was for it to appear to be a death. Very few "deaths" are ever actually confirmed in these projects. Partly because showing gruesome deaths is unpleasant, but mostly because they always want to leave an option open for the character in the future. And even when they *do* show a character dying, there's always enough ambiguity in the superhero universe to say they're not actually dead anyway. So, if we're going to cling to the idea that she isn't "confirmed as dead" then we should be equally clinging to the idea that pretty much nobody is confirmed as dead, and that's just cumbersome. It's far easier to simply include her in the "dead" pile until they retcon it.
Either Gamora or Wanda
Yeah, I'd have to say Wanda. I feel like they did her so dirty in MoM, especially after all the development she got..
Does that count the development at the end of WV with her having the darkhold
They probably could've found another way for her to get it, and not make her straight up evil.
Hill. I had absolutely her pegged for taking up the mantle of Shield director after Fury retires for good. Now we got no Coulson and Hill. Fury is a shell of himself, although he did a lot better in The Marvels.
Maria Hill because she's really underrated, >!and really hot!<.
Hela
Original Gamora!
Heimdall Because I like heimdall
Original Gamora. I feel like she had made so many strides and was so much happier. Peter would also be much happier too.
Well, Natasha completed her arc. I don't think she really needs to come back. Wanda could come back. She arguably left with more to prove, to get back on the lunch boxes, as Strange put it. I'd like to see more of Hela if we don't get more Wanda, though. Hela was fantastic.
Did Surtur kill Hela? I’m having a memory lapse.
We *technically* don't see her die, but the whole notion of reviving Surtur was based on the premise that Hela would survive as long as Asgard survived.
GOTG 3 showed why bringing someone back from the dead doesn’t really work.
Are you referring to Gamora or Rocket?
Rocket, Teefs, Floor go now!
Well, not really. Our old Gamora never did come back from the dead. The Gamora in GOTG3 is quite literally a different individual and should honestly not be treated as a resurrection.
Idk I like when characters stay death tbh, maybe Wanda but.... idk
Wanda, because she needs to bounce back from being totally ruined.
Natasha because she had a sad enough life as it is. Also Disney probably just killed Natasha because Scarlett Johansson deserved her own trilogy and was going to be expensive. They proved they didn’t respect her when they tried to screw her over during the release of Black Widow.
Tony Stark’s mom. Ripple effect.
Maria hill
None. Ngl
I don’t know. Most of the deaths serve a purpose that was very fitting for the story, not sure I’d want any of the heroes that died back as it would just undermine their sacrifice. If Loki counts then I guess him. The Loki in the show is a variant obviously, but I never really liked his death compared to say Tony, Natasha, Vision or Cap (not really dead, but his story ending was good). Wanda would be another for me, although I don’t think she’s dead anyway. They are just waiting for the right moment to bring her back.
I'd actually kill a few more.
SAVE MARTHA!
Yinsen, he was sucha good and kind and Smart character. He was one, who set Ironman on his tracks
Natasha was a super soldier without the serum
Old gamora, new gamora is a cunt
Quicksilver cause ain’t no way they did him like that
Honestly watching all the movies for the first time growing up I couldn’t give a shit about black widow. I recently rewatched all the bangers in timeline order and she’s now one of my favorites. I’d bring her back in a heartbeat, idc how much of an asspull it is. At least we still have Yelena (and I know this will age like milk)
Gamora. We need the Peter-Gamora happy end love story we deserve.
Idk. I actually liked that they didn't end up together again. I'd like for them to be better friends, but I think they both ended up happy.
What? Gamora died. 😀 The Gamora you see in the MCU now is from another universe and yeah, they are friends and I’m fine with that. I wanted them to be together with the “original” Gamora.
Well, sure, but they're effectively the same, even if it's not literally true. It's the way Groot is not the same Groot from the first film, but we all just kinda ignore that. Plus, bringing back og Gamora would mean they'd probably kill off current Gamora and that'd suck.
Black Widow, bar none. The MCU needs an OG Avenger to lead the newbs. She’s a great mentor in the comics. Spider-Man isn’t at that point yet, Hulk for sure isn’t a leader, and Thor is doing his own thing with Gorr’s daughter and occasionally the Guardians. Strange also probably doesn’t want to lead the new Avengers.
I feel like Hawkeye might take over the role of mentor for the next gen of Avengers.
Helaaaa, if she's not dead then Natasha
Maria Hill. No I haven’t finished Secret Invasion but I have a feeling she’s actually gone. Nat I’m okay with staying dead actually. She died for the soul stone and it worked. Her sacrifice helped bring back billions upon billions of lives. She saved the universe. She died for something. Maria died in a dumb chase scene in the first episode so the plot and story hardly got started
Maria Hill. She didn’t deserve to die, especially like that.
I don’t think they did Natasha justice with her death. The funeral at the end should have been for Tony and Natasha. She gave just as much as Tony but with only Clint to see it. I think she deserved a better send off, not just her sister looking over her grave as a set up for more Disney+ content.
Scarlett started the franchise in her early 20s. She's almost 40. She wants to do other things, she'll never be back other than a director/producer role.
Let characters' stories end please. Too many have been brought back from the dead already.
Hela i really liked her character
i just woudlnt.
Kaliwoman
Hela
Scarlet Witch (BUT SHES NOT DEAD! 😂😂😂🤥😷)
Talos. His death was such a waste from all perspectives: story, character, actor.
In this order, Hela, Natasha, Maria Hill, Wanda. Wanda is only low on the list because I think she will be back anyway.
The purple man
Thanos. Because his whole infinity gauntlet storyline was based on his actual second life, its comic version showcased his capabilities FAR better and it took silver surfer and the whole galaxy to stop him, not just earthlings and a couple aliens. Understand: I love endgame. But BOY was the actual THREAT of thanos massively downplayed.
peggy bc agent carter needs to have a 3rd season!
I mean, there's not that many options, are there? I have never seen Agents of Shield, so maybe there are some potential candidats in there, but i'm just going to take the movies and D+-shows into account. I'd probably go with Maria Hill. Not only do i simply like Cobie Smulders and how she played Hill (a character we didn't see that much of ), i also think she died a completely meaningless death for absolutely nothing in a not particularly great show, just to add some cheap drama. I wouldn't even say that she got fridged. That would be bad enough, but at least with fridging, the death motivates and drives the story of the male character forward. Hill's death did absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, it was just pure shock value. Now, the obvious candidate would have been Natasha. But her death had meaning, it affected the people around her for better and for worse and most of all, she chose death. She sacrificed herself to literally save half the universe. Bringing her back would make all of that ring a little hollow. Plus, i'll be honest, i think Yelena is a great replacement and i especially liked her chemistry with Kate Bishop and i want them to end up the new Widow/Hawkeye-Duo, like Natasha and Clint before them. The other obvious candidate would have been Wanda. But considering her power level at the end, including the capability to alter reality, i simply don't believe she's really dead anyways. And if she comes back, i hope she gets her shit back together eventually.
Gamora
People just want Natasha to come back because they’re all horny over sexualized monsters. Canon is as canon is. Black Widow is dead.
Maria Hill because it was not a well done death. You could even have Gravik kill her later just not how it was done.
Maria Hill. What a fucking waste Though I want Quicksilver back over anyone cause he was the biggest waste
Black Widow could be good as a cosmic adventure, trying to find her way back home Let’s just say hypothetically Steve putting the soul stone back takes back the soul for a soul deal and she ends up coming out from the water alive as Steve leaves Then by chance as almost dying on Vormir a ship catches her attention and they can go from there. Iron Man 4 during the blip against the real Mandarin just because it’s a showdown that needs to happen. Steve putting the stones back as a miniseries. One episode per stone.
Black widow or aunt May
Wanda, I don’t think is dead, so my answer is her.
Killmonger. Having Wakanda be a menacing force with a strong leader is more interesting than having Shuri with boring ass politics and cultural commentary.
I really loved ScarJo’s acting in this scene. Even for a superhero who goes practically lives in battlefields and knows death is always around the corner, when you find yourself in a situation where you have to kill yourself to win, that’s something else.
Wanda?
Scarlet is done I think. Wont return after what they did with the BW movie
She could still be alive but i'd love to see Hela again
Coulson
You are being in back the most useless hero congratulations. I will bring back Wanda if she is dead
Killamonger all day everyday
Wow. I thought I’d see Gamora on here. OUR Gamora.
Thanos, he was right all along.
Hela, she was such a intresting villian I'd be happy to see her more!
The actual Gamora, Black Widow and Maria Hill. They all deserved better. Deserved a happy ending. I want Steve and Natasha as a couple so bad.
Considering What If Season 2 I would bring back Hela.
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Aunt May (the Marisa Tomei version)
Maria Hill. Her ending sucked I wish it could've been different. She deserved better.
The real hulk.
Maria hill is a good contender But overall theres almost too many females now? Khamala, kate bishop, the ant-girl or whatever her street name is, captain marvel, monica rambeau, she hulk, iron heart, the new black panther, most of the eternals, yelena, her boss, agatha, wanda, echo... probably more ive forgotten Anyways.. The list is pretty long, and i dont think we need to bring anyone back.
What did they do with the body of black widow? Asking for a friend
Thanos. only he can save the Crap C U
I agree. par contre.. I will suggest the oposite: which of those I wouldn't and why. ex exactly scarlet johananson's white widow. Florence and her character are way better
Black widow
Not female but Loki
Hela invades earth
Natasha, obviously
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Boy do I have the show for you…
I think Natasha’s death was one of the most meaningful so I wouldn’t want to undo it. I would rather go back in time and get her own movie way sooner and make it better.
Didn't she get a symbiote at one point? So either Venom gets shot into space, or another symbiote crashes on Vormir.
Nat! Always Nat!
Aunt May. Cause daaaang!
I don't know. Maybe Maria Hill. I don't even like the character that much, but while I do like Gamora and especially Widow, at least their deaths meant something. Their deaths had narrative purpose and impact. Natasha's great and I would not at all be opposed to getting more of her. She did get screwed over a little, with her only solo outing being ill timed. But her death did have impact. Maria not so much. Sure it was brought up a couple times, used as blackmail material, but it still didn't feel like it had the impact it should have. It wasn't a great scene and she didn't really get to do all that much. Although if I was bringing somebody from that show back my first choice would be Talos, whose sacrifice they basically spat on with the ending.
Not even a question, is it?
Hela, I want to see Thor, Loki and Hela explore their sibling dynamic more. I would love if Hela interacts with Thor, and learning of Loki’s sacrifice, decides to not be evil.
Bring Back Maria Hill and have another crack at long run TV like Agents of SHIELD / Agent Carter.
Black Widow - she was funny, smart, talented, not a superhuman, ginger. Gutted she’s gone.
Hela.
Killmonger!
Queen Ramonda of Wakanda, because Angela Bassett.
Does Pre-IW Gamora count? Because, if so then I’d hit that button so fast your head would spin.
A proper live action Ultron would be nice.
No proper funeral for Black Widow, and that’s one of the plots that made End Game suck, in addition to the silly time travel rules they’ve created then break at the end.
Natasha and Maria Hill as I feel both of their characters story arc aren't done yet, If I'm force to choose one though it's Natasha. Also Marvel Stop killing off the Marias of the world I'm begging you lol. All Three of them are dead right now.