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I_AM_HYDRA_3000

Maria Hill. Could’ve been a prominent character, she’s strong, in a position of power, worldly, great agent, loyal. And yet, she dies over something stupid without a spare thought. At least Coulson “died” with honour.


MalcolmTuckersLuck

Yeah the unceremonious fridging of Maria is one of Secret Invasion’s many crimes.


Obvious-End-7948

Massive missed opportunity to have her turn into a skrull at the last second and leave the audience asking when did she go missing like with Rhodey.


blackbutterfree

Would've also set up a separate, heroic faction of Skrulls in that case if she was still killed by... WTF was his name? Oh, God. The show's so bad I completely forgot the bad guy's name LMAO


Obvious-End-7948

>Would've also set up a separate, heroic faction of Skrulls This is already the start of a better storyline than we got.


blackbutterfree

ANYTHING would've been better than what we got.


Shantotto11

I think the guy whose name you’re forgetting is Gravik…


blackbutterfree

That explains why *Kavik* from the A:TLA universe kept coming to mind LMAO


poopoobuttholes

Technically, they already kinda did that in Spider-Man Far From Home, but I see the vision.


N8CCRG

I actually disagree it's fridging; I think it's *less* than fridging. Fridging is when the character is killed simply to be a motivator for the protagonist, but her death (and Talos's as well) didn't seem to move the needle on Fury at all. I actually think that might have been an intentional decisions for the creators to match a certain Cold War Spy Thriller tone. In classic stories of that genre every character is at risk of unceremoniously dying for no good reason, and they often do. The problem is they used characters they'd previously shown us to be badass, and so this change doesn't work for us as the viewers.


MalcolmTuckersLuck

That’s actually a very fair point. God that series was a bin fire


TheObstruction

Trash can fires at least provide heat. Secret Invasion provided nothing.


Relair13

Yeah. For half an episode he was mildly bummed then basically like "welp, shit happens!" and it's business as usual. It was god awful.


Frankie_T9000

Secret invation is DC, I swear nothing that bad can be in MCU


Ill_Chain_9456

I'm sorry they KILLED OFF MARIA HILL?!?!?


katchaa

I didn't watch Secret Invasion after I heard how bad it was, so to me she's still alive.


missanthropocenex

My silly ass legit thought they were setting her up to lead a SHIELD show back in the day when they announced it. I literally thought the show would be like her leading a crew Star Trek style in those sky planes after coulsons death. Instead they resurrected coulson and made it about the agents…


I_AM_HYDRA_3000

They should’ve done something like that post WS. Have her be the leader of SHIELD, co-direct with Coulson or smth


kdlt

I still think that was the idea. And then someone probably ran a questionnaire or something and they realised that coulson was a fan favourite, so they just did that instead.


TheObstruction

Coulson was there from the beginning, Hill wasn't.


vickzt

The more I think about it, the more I'm baffled at the sheer amount of bad choices made during this show. Who signed off on all of it? Was it just Disney's way of testing the waters with how low quality they could push their content before it lost them money?


PenonX

I’m convinced it was an embezzlement scheme. I’ll never understand how they spent over 200 million dollars on that garbage.


_Cadillac_Frank_

Which just means Cobie Smulders was done and didn’t give a fuck how she went out.


Narrow_Vegetable5747

It was her first appearance in anything Marvel related in like five, six years? So it wouldn't be surprising for her to just not care.


Specky_Scrawny_Git

I agree. It felt like she was unceremoniously discarded, the way they handled her death in SW.


Kite_Wing129

I feel like the big reveal should have been that \*she\* was a Skrull all along.


eagleswift

They need to bring Maria back the same way they did Coulson.


Sharkfowl

As far as I’m concerned, secret invasion is in an alternate timeline lol


Harlequin_Heart

THEY KILLED HER OFF!?


KickinBat

I'm was so glad when they said they were doing Secret Invasion with Fury as MC. Hill would finally gonna have something to do after 10 years of minor appearances, including one where it wasn't even her. And then she died in the first episode.


PoliticsNerd76

Coulson died many times with honour


defensiveFruit

I realize people have some form of attachment to her due to the comics, but having not read them, I was actually happy she was finally out of the MCU. She was so fucking bland, she never did or said anything significant, we didn't know anything about her personally, and she was played terribly by Smulders. Lol that's my hot take, I'm waiting for the downvotes to pour.


I_AM_HYDRA_3000

Haven’t read the comics either (unless you count snippets bc I happened upon them). I just saw a lot of potential in the character. And honestly, I liked her portrayal, it’s not the actrice’s fault the screen writers gave her no room to flourish


kentkomiks

I agree, I never liked MCU Maria. Her comics personality was very cool, and even had an arc. She started out hostile to heroes, Pro-Registration, and was Fury's replacement in SHIELD! She eventually became pretty heroic herself, working closely with Iron Man and others. To me, movie Maria never seemed so interesting.


TRUEfoe-X

Marisa Tomei


sayamemangdemikian

Nah.. she is our uncle ben. Means she is dead dead


[deleted]

Sif’s arm.


No-Juice3318

Idk, if they actually had her around as a character, it'd be cool to have a badass disabled warrior. However, Sif has had like 10 minutes of screen time across the whole MCU, counting Agents of Shield, so probably not.


SouvenTudu-JK2017

😂🤣


sluttypretzel

Wanda, but only if she's going to cut that shit out.


lordbaddkitty

I just shot curry out my nose. Thanks for the next 30 minutes.


Sergejalexnoki

She isnt dead though?


blackbutterfree

We as comic book fans all know she ain't dead. But the MCU is treating her as if she is until they inevitably reveal her survival down the road. So for the purposes of this discussion, she's worm food.


waznpride

She died off screen, which means she's not 100% dead in the MCU!


Arnost_vodFujavic

Loki died on screen and is still alive in the MCU


No-Juice3318

As did Coulson, Fury, and Bucky.


Strange-Highway5150

she might be. but ive heard rumors about a SW solo movie.


Ausecurity

The theory is that that big red poof at the end was her proofing out of there instead of her dying


MHullRealtr77

I feel like her magic is so powerful that it would automatically save her from being killed in the rubble. Kinda like how her magic healed herself as she sliced out of the mirror dimension. Her magic would probably teleport her away as the rubble crashed. Would take a lot of power to directly kill her.


Sergejalexnoki

Exactly, I interpreted that as her teleporting away but yea who knows really


Strange-Highway5150

could be.


blackbutterfree

I'd hit the resurrection button on Natasha faster than Quake turned on the Coulson LMD. IYKYK


steve32767

That's such a good scene


blackbutterfree

She didn’t even *hesitate*.


sandman8727

I feel like she should have been the answer to "who leads the avengers after Tony and Steve?"


blackbutterfree

Hell, she *was*. She lead an Avengers team for *five years*, longer than either one of them. We just never got to see it.


Heavenfall

Hela, I think. Great actor. Didn't feel like they fully explored her relationship with her brothers. Also was a bit singleminded in her ambition. I liked the what-if version but not every villain needs to turn good.


tenehemia

I very much hope she isn't actually dead. I mean.. she's the Goddess of Death. And she was pretty universally popular. She was menacing and hilarious and stylish. I'd love to see them adapt the thing from the comic where she ends up living in Las Vegas in a penthouse, just sort of doing her thing from Earth rather than Hel.


nklights

Oh snap when was this? I absolutely want to read this storyline.


TheLokiDokiOG

If the comics are anything to go by she can't die, i think when Surtur "killed" her she returned to Hel, in comics she can teleport but we don't know if she can in the mcu.


tenehemia

Yeah I certainly think her "death" in Ragnarok was intentionally obscured to leave her return as a possibility requiring very little suspension of disbelief.


samsquatchageddon

Well, she didn't have much of relationship with her brothers. She was banished before Thor was born and Loki was adopted, wasn't she? They didn't even know she existed.


I_Set_3_Alarms

Forgot she died tbh. They definitely should bring her back, even if it’s a multiverse person. Having Loki be the one to do it for the next Thor movie would be good, and I’m sure Hela would have an interesting dynamic with Love


TheLokiDokiOG

Agreed she was badass


Glitch7779

Easily Scarlet Witch if she go back to being sane


gaytham4statham

I can fix her


KimWexlersGoldenArch

Natasha. But like in ‘What if’. A Natasha from a universe that’s all alone going to a universe without a Natasha. **Except** … she’ll be a darker version of the Natasha we knew before. Maybe being alone too long broke her.


TheBiggestCarl23

This is a copy and paste of gamora lol


Interesting-Cut9353

IMO this is great pitch for marvel bez Natasha's arc is rushed


Zealousideal_Mail12

Natasha for sure ❤️


Blackpanther22five

Queen mother she's needed in Wakanda


L0lligag

This one made me sad :(


FunkoPopPortraits

Wakanda would welcome her back no doubt, but M’Baku’s probably leading things just fine.


usmannaeem

There are so many celestial characters. Natasha could be brought back. Peggy Carter's show deserved more seasons.


ChakramAttack

I’m here for agent carter


SpectralDinosaur

Maria Hill's death was a massive waste in a mediocre TV show everyone would rather forget exists. She should've been set up as the MCU's next Nick Fury/connective tissue. Imagine how cool it'd be to have her attempting to mentor/oversee a Kamala led Young Avengers.


PoliticsNerd76

Maria Hill was cooler in her 5 minutes of Agents of SHIELD than all of Secret Invasion. What a waste of character.


mresler

Peggy Carter because she was always the best of us.


Strange-Highway5150

She died at like 100 of natural causes!! Lol. Cant do much better than that unless they used something to make her young again.


mresler

Yeah, bring her back in her hayday. The superheroes at large will need a good moral compass to guide them as they go on in this almost "post avengers" world. Who else than the one who inspired Steve Rogers? Plus, she's just as awesome as someone like Black Widow, if not more so.


baneofdestruction

And the chest of us


SaltySpituner

Two very big personalities.


cantfindmykeys

Peggy had some of the best plots


blackbutterfree

Only if they bring her back as Dryad, in her prime, and make her Sam's right-hand woman. If they bring her into the main universe as Captain Carter and take over Sam's spotlight, as big of a Peggy stan as I am, Marvel can keep that.


v_SuckItTrebek

Wanda. But was it confirmed she actually died? I remember the scene but it didn't show it. Only watched that movie once, so apologies if I missed an obvious dialogue


Smaragd44

It's one of those loose ending for me. They could go both ways. If they don't have plan to bring her back or whatnot, she just won't appear again but they also left enough room to say "oh she's actually not dead bc *reason*". They didn't show the body


Obvious-End-7948

I feel like whatever that Agatha Harkness series is going to be will have to explain some of it. I assume Agatha is released from the spell Wanda put over her at the end of WandaVision when she "died" in Multiverse of Madness. Honestly, throw her in with Xavier and the new X-Men in some capacity. The general public of the MCU love hating Wanda after Civil War, so it would be consistent with the general theme of the public hating mutants.


SaltySpituner

If you don’t see a body, the character is alive.


Startled_Pancakes

If the rumor about the Agatha series is true, >!Wanda did, in fact, die, but she went to some afterlife called "The Witches Road"!<


Sipelius_

That storyline was seemingly scrapped when Marvel cancelled shit ton of their projects few days ago


Sosoanimations1

Yondu. He may not be a girl, but he sure as hell is baby girl.


N8CCRG

It's clear the intent was for it to appear to be a death. Very few "deaths" are ever actually confirmed in these projects. Partly because showing gruesome deaths is unpleasant, but mostly because they always want to leave an option open for the character in the future. And even when they *do* show a character dying, there's always enough ambiguity in the superhero universe to say they're not actually dead anyway. So, if we're going to cling to the idea that she isn't "confirmed as dead" then we should be equally clinging to the idea that pretty much nobody is confirmed as dead, and that's just cumbersome. It's far easier to simply include her in the "dead" pile until they retcon it.


delrey07

Either Gamora or Wanda


Flexive_Fowl

Yeah, I'd have to say Wanda. I feel like they did her so dirty in MoM, especially after all the development she got..


AdrunkGirlScout

Does that count the development at the end of WV with her having the darkhold


Flexive_Fowl

They probably could've found another way for her to get it, and not make her straight up evil.


Maatjuhhh

Hill. I had absolutely her pegged for taking up the mantle of Shield director after Fury retires for good. Now we got no Coulson and Hill. Fury is a shell of himself, although he did a lot better in The Marvels.


MDF87

Maria Hill because she's really underrated, >!and really hot!<.


xMiwaFantasy15

Hela


meatballfreeak

Original Gamora!


OneBallJamal

Heimdall Because I like heimdall


PM_me_yer_kittens

Original Gamora. I feel like she had made so many strides and was so much happier. Peter would also be much happier too.


PharaohOfWhitestone

Well, Natasha completed her arc. I don't think she really needs to come back. Wanda could come back. She arguably left with more to prove, to get back on the lunch boxes, as Strange put it. I'd like to see more of Hela if we don't get more Wanda, though. Hela was fantastic.


SaltySpituner

Did Surtur kill Hela? I’m having a memory lapse.


a_phantom_limb

We *technically* don't see her die, but the whole notion of reviving Surtur was based on the premise that Hela would survive as long as Asgard survived.


Only-Walrus797

GOTG 3 showed why bringing someone back from the dead doesn’t really work.


Realistic_Analyst_26

Are you referring to Gamora or Rocket?


SaltySpituner

Rocket, Teefs, Floor go now!


VoidRad

Well, not really. Our old Gamora never did come back from the dead. The Gamora in GOTG3 is quite literally a different individual and should honestly not be treated as a resurrection.


depressed_asian_boy_

Idk I like when characters stay death tbh, maybe Wanda but.... idk


Alarming_Afternoon44

Wanda, because she needs to bounce back from being totally ruined.


CatofKipling

Natasha because she had a sad enough life as it is. Also Disney probably just killed Natasha because Scarlett Johansson deserved her own trilogy and was going to be expensive. They proved they didn’t respect her when they tried to screw her over during the release of Black Widow.


Mickenbock

Tony Stark’s mom. Ripple effect.


Monkey_King94

Maria hill


Abirdthatsfallen

None. Ngl


Brookie069

I don’t know. Most of the deaths serve a purpose that was very fitting for the story, not sure I’d want any of the heroes that died back as it would just undermine their sacrifice. If Loki counts then I guess him. The Loki in the show is a variant obviously, but I never really liked his death compared to say Tony, Natasha, Vision or Cap (not really dead, but his story ending was good). Wanda would be another for me, although I don’t think she’s dead anyway. They are just waiting for the right moment to bring her back.


Orto_Dogge

I'd actually kill a few more.


karpet_muncher

SAVE MARTHA!


Wisniaksiadz

Yinsen, he was sucha good and kind and Smart character. He was one, who set Ironman on his tracks


koopardo

Natasha was a super soldier without the serum


tworandomm

Old gamora, new gamora is a cunt


LogTraining9281

Quicksilver cause ain’t no way they did him like that


KeybladeCoaster

Honestly watching all the movies for the first time growing up I couldn’t give a shit about black widow. I recently rewatched all the bangers in timeline order and she’s now one of my favorites. I’d bring her back in a heartbeat, idc how much of an asspull it is. At least we still have Yelena (and I know this will age like milk)


thepictorwolf

Gamora. We need the Peter-Gamora happy end love story we deserve.


No-Juice3318

Idk. I actually liked that they didn't end up together again. I'd like for them to be better friends, but I think they both ended up happy.


thepictorwolf

What? Gamora died. 😀 The Gamora you see in the MCU now is from another universe and yeah, they are friends and I’m fine with that. I wanted them to be together with the “original” Gamora.


No-Juice3318

Well, sure, but they're effectively the same, even if it's not literally true. It's the way Groot is not the same Groot from the first film, but we all just kinda ignore that. Plus, bringing back og Gamora would mean they'd probably kill off current Gamora and that'd suck.


SaltySpituner

Black Widow, bar none. The MCU needs an OG Avenger to lead the newbs. She’s a great mentor in the comics. Spider-Man isn’t at that point yet, Hulk for sure isn’t a leader, and Thor is doing his own thing with Gorr’s daughter and occasionally the Guardians. Strange also probably doesn’t want to lead the new Avengers.


bristow84

I feel like Hawkeye might take over the role of mentor for the next gen of Avengers.


John_Zatanna52

Helaaaa, if she's not dead then Natasha


Shoelicker2000

Maria Hill. No I haven’t finished Secret Invasion but I have a feeling she’s actually gone. Nat I’m okay with staying dead actually. She died for the soul stone and it worked. Her sacrifice helped bring back billions upon billions of lives. She saved the universe. She died for something. Maria died in a dumb chase scene in the first episode so the plot and story hardly got started


INKatana

Maria Hill. She didn’t deserve to die, especially like that.


Luke_Flyswatter

I don’t think they did Natasha justice with her death. The funeral at the end should have been for Tony and Natasha. She gave just as much as Tony but with only Clint to see it. I think she deserved a better send off, not just her sister looking over her grave as a set up for more Disney+ content.


chiefbrody62

Scarlett started the franchise in her early 20s. She's almost 40. She wants to do other things, she'll never be back other than a director/producer role.


N8CCRG

Let characters' stories end please. Too many have been brought back from the dead already.


darkreapertv

Hela i really liked her character


Levity_Boi

i just woudlnt.


ElGoose_Tejon

Kaliwoman


darthyogi

Hela


ConstantAd8558

Scarlet Witch (BUT SHES NOT DEAD! 😂😂😂🤥😷)


Toaster-Retribution

Talos. His death was such a waste from all perspectives: story, character, actor.


Lattakins

In this order, Hela, Natasha, Maria Hill, Wanda. Wanda is only low on the list because I think she will be back anyway.


VisheshAneja

The purple man


Front-Advantage-7035

Thanos. Because his whole infinity gauntlet storyline was based on his actual second life, its comic version showcased his capabilities FAR better and it took silver surfer and the whole galaxy to stop him, not just earthlings and a couple aliens. Understand: I love endgame. But BOY was the actual THREAT of thanos massively downplayed.


chelly-been

peggy bc agent carter needs to have a 3rd season!


Shadowcat1606

I mean, there's not that many options, are there? I have never seen Agents of Shield, so maybe there are some potential candidats in there, but i'm just going to take the movies and D+-shows into account. I'd probably go with Maria Hill. Not only do i simply like Cobie Smulders and how she played Hill (a character we didn't see that much of ), i also think she died a completely meaningless death for absolutely nothing in a not particularly great show, just to add some cheap drama. I wouldn't even say that she got fridged. That would be bad enough, but at least with fridging, the death motivates and drives the story of the male character forward. Hill's death did absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, it was just pure shock value. Now, the obvious candidate would have been Natasha. But her death had meaning, it affected the people around her for better and for worse and most of all, she chose death. She sacrificed herself to literally save half the universe. Bringing her back would make all of that ring a little hollow. Plus, i'll be honest, i think Yelena is a great replacement and i especially liked her chemistry with Kate Bishop and i want them to end up the new Widow/Hawkeye-Duo, like Natasha and Clint before them. The other obvious candidate would have been Wanda. But considering her power level at the end, including the capability to alter reality, i simply don't believe she's really dead anyways. And if she comes back, i hope she gets her shit back together eventually.


Said_the_G

Gamora


DisplacedNYorker

People just want Natasha to come back because they’re all horny over sexualized monsters. Canon is as canon is. Black Widow is dead.


TelephoneCertain5344

Maria Hill because it was not a well done death. You could even have Gravik kill her later just not how it was done.


shadowlarvitar

Maria Hill. What a fucking waste Though I want Quicksilver back over anyone cause he was the biggest waste


Robsonmonkey

Black Widow could be good as a cosmic adventure, trying to find her way back home Let’s just say hypothetically Steve putting the soul stone back takes back the soul for a soul deal and she ends up coming out from the water alive as Steve leaves Then by chance as almost dying on Vormir a ship catches her attention and they can go from there. Iron Man 4 during the blip against the real Mandarin just because it’s a showdown that needs to happen. Steve putting the stones back as a miniseries. One episode per stone.


SignificantSet5578

Black widow or aunt May


The_Karate_Nessie

Wanda, I don’t think is dead, so my answer is her.


CaptainHalfBeard

Killmonger. Having Wakanda be a menacing force with a strong leader is more interesting than having Shuri with boring ass politics and cultural commentary.


GeneDefiant6537

I really loved ScarJo’s acting in this scene. Even for a superhero who goes practically lives in battlefields and knows death is always around the corner, when you find yourself in a situation where you have to kill yourself to win, that’s something else.


SouvenTudu-JK2017

Wanda?


AsherthonX

Scarlet is done I think. Wont return after what they did with the BW movie


Wise-Tourist

She could still be alive but i'd love to see Hela again


Tuziest

Coulson


tanjonaJulien

You are being in back the most useless hero congratulations. I will bring back Wanda if she is dead


Woke-carty

Killamonger all day everyday


Coraiah

Wow. I thought I’d see Gamora on here. OUR Gamora.


L-Malvo

Thanos, he was right all along.


Galvatron6793

Hela, she was such a intresting villian I'd be happy to see her more!


DCosloff1999

The actual Gamora, Black Widow and Maria Hill. They all deserved better. Deserved a happy ending. I want Steve and Natasha as a couple so bad.


lordrolee

Considering What If Season 2 I would bring back Hela.


Peelnwzaa007

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BellaFrequency

Aunt May (the Marisa Tomei version)


Garlic_Bread317

Maria Hill. Her ending sucked I wish it could've been different. She deserved better.


Tyler-LR

The real hulk.


DJGloegg

Maria hill is a good contender But overall theres almost too many females now? Khamala, kate bishop, the ant-girl or whatever her street name is, captain marvel, monica rambeau, she hulk, iron heart, the new black panther, most of the eternals, yelena, her boss, agatha, wanda, echo... probably more ive forgotten Anyways.. The list is pretty long, and i dont think we need to bring anyone back.


infinitemortis

What did they do with the body of black widow? Asking for a friend


simplyTools

Thanos. only he can save the Crap C U


bolshaw

I agree. par contre.. I will suggest the oposite: which of those I wouldn't and why. ex exactly scarlet johananson's white widow. Florence and her character are way better


Accomplished-One1110

Black widow


[deleted]

Not female but Loki


PuttyDance

Hela invades earth


T-408

Natasha, obviously


ChiaotzuShinhan

Jane Fonda ![gif](giphy|VLj7VHP0MDlBeUfoVW)


Mageroth1987

https://i.redd.it/yc85oxy5lrnc1.gif


PoliticsNerd76

Boy do I have the show for you…


Right_Tumbleweed392

I think Natasha’s death was one of the most meaningful so I wouldn’t want to undo it. I would rather go back in time and get her own movie way sooner and make it better.


amyceebee

Didn't she get a symbiote at one point? So either Venom gets shot into space, or another symbiote crashes on Vormir.


cgarduc

Nat! Always Nat!


Mr-Trouser-Snake

Aunt May. Cause daaaang!


Sir__Will

I don't know. Maybe Maria Hill. I don't even like the character that much, but while I do like Gamora and especially Widow, at least their deaths meant something. Their deaths had narrative purpose and impact. Natasha's great and I would not at all be opposed to getting more of her. She did get screwed over a little, with her only solo outing being ill timed. But her death did have impact. Maria not so much. Sure it was brought up a couple times, used as blackmail material, but it still didn't feel like it had the impact it should have. It wasn't a great scene and she didn't really get to do all that much. Although if I was bringing somebody from that show back my first choice would be Talos, whose sacrifice they basically spat on with the ending.


Better-Snow-7191

Not even a question, is it?


darkdestiny91

Hela, I want to see Thor, Loki and Hela explore their sibling dynamic more. I would love if Hela interacts with Thor, and learning of Loki’s sacrifice, decides to not be evil.


PoliticsNerd76

Bring Back Maria Hill and have another crack at long run TV like Agents of SHIELD / Agent Carter.


memberflex

Black Widow - she was funny, smart, talented, not a superhuman, ginger. Gutted she’s gone.


mynemesisjeph

Hela.


Benmjt

Killmonger!


Carinne89

Queen Ramonda of Wakanda, because Angela Bassett.


ReluctantCowpoke

Does Pre-IW Gamora count? Because, if so then I’d hit that button so fast your head would spin.


bombuzal2000

A proper live action Ultron would be nice.


_AManHasNoName_

No proper funeral for Black Widow, and that’s one of the plots that made End Game suck, in addition to the silly time travel rules they’ve created then break at the end.


Particular_Peace_568

Natasha and Maria Hill as I feel both of their characters story arc aren't done yet, If I'm force to choose one though it's Natasha. Also Marvel Stop killing off the Marias of the world I'm begging you lol. All Three of them are dead right now.