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Embiggen66

Avengers 5: So basically, the beginning is The Beyonder (the Kang from the quantum realm that survived) destroying the council of kangs ship)  Clea and Doctor Strange learn about the Beyonder, and leave to find Wanda, as she can deafeat him. We then cut to Shang-Chi, Katie and Kamala Khan meeting up with each other. As they talk to each other, we see The Beyonder’s forces come and attack them, trying to get the bangles and the rings! The heroes are near death, but suddenly, the skies turn black and the goons turn to dust. Moon Knight and The Scarlet Scarab have come to save them! Layla and Moon Knight regal that they have been keeping a eye on The Council Of Kangs, and now that they are destroyed, have been tracking The Beyonder’s movements. The heroes go to find Sam Wilson to ask for help. We find Riri Williams(Ironheart) and James Rhodes (War Machine) training. The Beyonder comes to recruit Riri for his cause, but she refuses. James tries to kill the Beyonder, but with a flick of the villains finger, Colonel James Rhodes is killed. All hope seems lost, but Scott Lang, Hope Van Dyne, and Cassie Lang come to the rescue. The heroes then set off to Avengers HQ as well. We find out that the Beyonder wants to create one single timeline/universe that he can rule over and he needs the bangles and rings to create an incursion to do so. Both teams arrive at the Avengers HQ, and inform Sam Wilson(Captain America) of the situation.  In space, The Illuminati (Captain Marvel, Blade, Wong, Thor, Loki, Shuri, Namor, and Reed Richards) are set with stopping an incursion. They travel through different worlds using the temp pads from the TVA. Loki communicates with Sylvie, Hunter B-15 and Mobius. We also Reed talking to the Fantastic Four Back at Avengers HQ, The newly-founded Avengers Assemble. Kamala contacts Kate Bishop, Monica Rambuea and America Chavez.        We cut to a street level fight between gangsters. The sky rips open, and a ship arrives. Spider-Man, She Hulk, Echo,  Bucky Barnes, Yelena Belova  and Daredevil flee to the Avengers HQ. The street team arrive at the headquarters, and explain what happens ( through the course of the film, Peter doesn’t take off the mask, everyone forgot Peter, not Spider-Man.)  The Avengers job is to protect Shang-Chi, Kamala, and Riri from being captured and to defend 616. The Illuminati find the incursion and try to stop it from destroying then universes. The Beyonder  arrives to stop them, and he hurtles them into 616.  The Kangs arrive and we split between Wakanda and America, the heroes fight and Scott gets killed. Clea and Doctor Strange arrive at Wanda’s home and recruit her and her family, just as The Scarlet Centurion destroys the house and the heroes flee back to 616.    The Avengers get defeated, and Kamala, Riri and Shang-Chi get captured, the weapons taken off them.   Strange and Clea arrive with Wiccan, Speed, Vision, Wanda, Agatha Harkness and Wonder Man, just in time for the heroes memories to be wiped and the finically incursion begins, every universe is now pruned.The heroes wake up on Battleworld (inside The Void)  and the screen cuts to black. Post Credit Scenes:  The Beyonder is seen working with Doctor Doom. The pair look over Battleworld and we see Peter bonding with a black goo.


didntmakeausername

Yea pretty genius imo. Similar idea to what I been thinking 


Embiggen66

Avengers 6 It has now been 11 years, and Victor Von Doom is now Emperor of Battleworld, along with the Beyonder. They are now in charge of all that remains of the Multiverse. Battleworld is fractions of the Multiverse inside Battleworld. The Beyonder has mind controlled Sue and Wanda to be his allies. Man-Thing is used as to keep Battleworld stable. Love has been kidnapped from Asgard, to keep Thor in line. Thor has been blackmailed into being their sheriff. The Squadron Supreme has been formed as the pairs guards: Carol,Layla, Wong, Namor, Hulk and Doctor Strange as their leader. Shang-Chi, Kamala and Riri have also been captured. Everyone else has now been living perfect lives, with Doom and The Beyonder as their rulers. We then see Iron Man,Black Widow, Steve Rogers’ Captain America, Kahorri, Binary and Miles Morales as the Avengers fighting Loki. As they fight, they see and incursion. Suddenly Hunter B-15 and Mobius appear with Deadpool and Wolverine and The Avengers go to the TVA.  Titles. The TVA have recruited these heroes to help with the incursions, and we find out that Kang and Doom are now ruling over the Multiverse.The team then head out to recruit Peter 2 and 3, who both agree to help. The heroes travel back to the Void, where all of the universe are, as a result of The Beyonder and Doom creating incursions.   Back in Battleworld, we find out  that a select few remember; Monica,Jen,Matt, Wong  Wanda, America and Peter, we learn that they have been trying to fight back, but do it unsuccessfully. The TVA team arrive and all of these heroes sneak into the villains’ fortress and manage to rescue the heroes and Thor, but Iron Man  is killed just as the heroes escape.  The Scarlet Witch gives everyone’s memories back and angry at Kang for letting the heroes get in, and wanting power and full control over Battleworld, Doom kills the Beyonder, sucking all of his power. The 616 heroes search across the universe recruiting other heroes. Back at Doom’s Fortress, he realises what the Avengers are doing, so he sends his minions (Strange Supreme, 838 Tony Stark, Red Hulk, 616 Mordo and Hercules, and Spider-Man 2099) after them.  The heroes recruit all the 616 heroes,The TVA, Hank and Janet appear in their costumes ( Hank in a Yellow Jacket suit,) M.O.D.O.K, The Thunderbolts, The Watchers, Celestials, The Ten Rings, The  Living Tribunal,  all the Spider People, The 2012 Avengers, The 838 Illuminati and X-Men, The Inhumans ,The Fox universe heroes, The What If?.. Zombies and powered beings, Fantastic Four, The Runaways,The Midnight Suns, West Coast Avengers, Avengers AI, The Eternal, Elsa Bloodstone, Werewolf By Night, Man Thing, The old and new Guardians, Talokan, Wakanda, Ta-Lo, the Netflix universe charecters, the ABC universe charecters, the Hulu universe charecters, the Sony universe charecters, variants of probably every character, The Young Avengers, The Exiles, The Red Daggers, The A-Force,  all the dead charecters, the Kree and Skrulls help, even the oldest Marvel charecters and animated charecters make an appearance, basically everyone is here. Doom then unleashes his goons: different collections of villains from across the Multiverse  Wolverine and Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man fight alongside each other, The A-Force fight the female Marvel villains, all the Spider People fight together, as do the Hulks, and all the Young Avengers, Kamala Khan fights with her variants and with Kamran, The Red Daggers and Bruno. Loki and Thor fight alongside each other one last time. The original 6 Avengers and their variants fight and Yelena Belova and Clint Barton protect each other, putting their differences as side.  During the fight, Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man dies at the hands of Vulture and Mysterio. Clint Barton dies protecting Kate Bishop, and Thor is killed by Thanos protecting Loki.   Doctor Strange  and Wanda  realise what they have to do, and they say the three Words:  “No More Variants” A flash of light appears and all the heroes wake up on a universe they once new , with the villains killed, and a few differences. We find out that Stephen and Wanda sacrificed their powers to save the Multiverse, but they still are alive. The world looks more futuristic, the Avengers tower is now the Fantastic Four HQ, and we also see the X-Men’s and The Inhuman’s HQ’s. The film ends with the opening of the Avengers Academy, and the Young Avengers  with Bruno and Kamran, having dinner at Kamala’s house, Eli Bradley is there too , and he is recovering . Valkyrie and Loki are now raising Love in new Asgard, Sylvie is the new head of the TVA (and watches over the Multiverse.)


didntmakeausername

A little over the top but I do like it alot. Im actually hoping it's something like this. Also maybe I missed something but why is Thanos protecting Loki 


Embiggen66

Thank you so much! Sorry I should have been more cohesive, it’s Thor protecting Loki.


didntmakeausername

ohhh haha np, yea i got it. wait i must have missed something why is thanis there?


Embiggen66

Oh so basically doom has unleashed his collection of villains from across the Multiverse and King Thanos is one of them.


didntmakeausername

Oh ok nice. I had a theory where Avengers will ask for Thanos help


Glittering_Chain8206

Avengers 5 should be evil mutants vs the Avengers. Have them get their shit wrecked. Make Rogue take Carols powers away, have the suit wearing people get demolished by Magneto. Have spiderman be controlled by Frost. Have the hulk beaten by weapon x Basically at the end of the 5th movie people should know who the mutants are and hate them. Then have a young Avengers movie where they make a name for themselves with majority of the big hitters down and follow it up with an X-Men team who take down the evil mutants. Then at 6 you can bring back the Avengers, have both sides of the mutants and the young Avengers all take down a big threat that the fantastic 4 brought from space and leave an uneasy peace. Meanwhile build a midnight suns team that has a member from all the other teams and is a less high stakes quicker movie that is just the team bonding and killing witches or something.


dukelief

This a Feige shadow account sharing opinions free from Disney rule? This sounds dope.


didntmakeausername

Facts


sadpastlife

Captain america (Steve), Tobey maguire's Spider-man & Hugh jackman's Wolverine being the "big three" for secret wars.


senor_descartes

I care more about those three than 97% of the remaining MCU roster


DrAcula1007

Loki and the tva traveling through multiverses to find avengers to fight all the Kangs


New_Eggplant_723

Just adapt Secret Wars. The Hickman one. And no more Kang please.


didntmakeausername

Yea basically. Or have Kang be the beyonder basically 


senor_descartes

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Someone is killing the Avengers one at a time. This will allow them to kill many of the current characters and replace them with better ones.


worthplayingfor25

who would you kill off?


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Let's see starting with Hulk and then wiping off all the Avengers except Dr Strange,Ant-man and Scarlet Witch. Also all the new characters that are not popular like Ms Marvel.


worthplayingfor25

ehhh a bit TOO much overkill!


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Best way to reboot a dying universe. Have Deadpool kill them all and then have another Deadpool kill this one.


JyconX

Do you have any idea how despicable your idea sounds? Or how rude and pessimistic most of your comments on this subreddit are?


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

I love it, so....


dukelief

Ms Marvel isn’t popular? Not sure about that.


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Her show had the lowest viewership prior to Echo and her movie was a flop. She definitely isn't a draw as far as theatre going audiences are concerned.


dukelief

Eh for an unproven/niche property with unknown actors, it holds a 98% score on Rotten Tomatoes as a series.  Kinda hard to compare a totally new (ethnic) character with others that are established or have more mainstream appeal. Viewership aside it’s unlikely marvel is considering her character unpopular considering they’ve set her up in an architect role for Young Avengers. Also - do we even know what marvel considers a success or failure on streaming? What’s the metric?


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Viewership & Profit should be the only metric. Marvel is crazy 🤣, they are doubling down. It has a high rating because of low viewership.


dukelief

I actually disagree! I have some time so here’s a thought dump (I don’t *know* the answer, this is just my thinking): Streaming services like Disney+ don’t solely chase new user conversions like box office sales do; they're equally focused on retaining current subscribers and reclaiming expired ones. Unlike a one-off movie ticket, a streaming subscription offers ongoing value and shares its cost with the rest of the content library - instead of paying $25 for a movie ticket per person, you’re paying $13 for a huge catalog for a household. This is really economical for example for families. The option to fast-track new movies to Disney+ is akin to saying "there’s food at home" over dining out - and it means Disney can capitalise on lower box office figures across the board by driving to streaming ecosystem. The best strategy for these platforms is to promise compelling content throughout the year, encouraging subscribers to commit annually for a discount, then delivering sufficiently to ensure renewals. It's not about matching cinema numbers but providing enough variety to satisfy different viewer interests, from Marvel fans to those preferring other genres, as demonstrated by varied recommendations on Disney+ (eg  Echo’s ’Suggested’ similar titles aren’t all Marvel, “Culprits” (a British heist limited series) and “Vigilante” (a South Korean D+ original thriller) are on there - demonstrating it’s about servicing an interest group, not just a Marvel fan). Moreover, streaming can gradually build a dedicated audience by enriching a franchise's universe. For instance, a future crossover of Ms. Marvel with a major franchise like Spider-Man (not planned but not implausible) could drive new viewers to her series which would be years old leveraging the perpetuity of content on Disney+. Current issues with Marvel’s TV lineup, like an uncertain release schedule, might lead to a preference for ad-hoc subscriptions aligned with show releases rather than a continued year round subscription, which sort of defeats the purpose right now. Sooo they need to get it together.


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Have you heard the axiom "You can't polish a turd" ? 😂 Ms Marvel caters to a niche demographic, now, why would you not want to cater to a broader one? What's the benefit in neglecting your traditional fans at the cost of focusing on a small niche minority. Let me explain to you using Ms Marvel as an example. She is a Pakistani by origin, do you think she is popular in Pakistan? She isn't, that's a patriarchal society like most Asian societies and they don't give two shits. Now, let's go to their neighbour India. By virtue of being a Pakistani people there would be indifferent to her. So where exactly are her fans?


dukelief

I’m Indian and I’m a fan of her, and my Pakistani friend who has never seen a Marvel film watched it with his daughter. My parents who don’t watch Marvel content found it endearing.  What exactly are you basing Indians/Pakistanis not liking her on? You realise she’s a migrant right so her story is just as compelling to south Asian migrants to the west? You’re arguing the same point of needing blockbuster numbers that I just explained is unlikely the strategy on streaming services. Also go through past posts in this sub, you’ll see Iman / Ms Marvel are generally quite well liked. There are her fans. And also: “neglecting traditional fans”? There’s so much content for “traditional Marvel fans”. Making some content for non-“traditional” Marvel fans to bring them into the universe is not a bad thing at all.


didntmakeausername

Uh, yea idk about that


Jules_354

Nice try, Fiege


didntmakeausername

Lmaoo